80's Cartoon Nonfans

FoxBoxKid · 03-12-2014, 11:44 AM

I was introduced to TMNT through the 4Kids cartoon, probably the least prolific Turtles show and since then, I've been the biggest Ninja Turtles fan I know, (outside of this forum, of course). I enjoy the IDW comics, the Mirage comics, the Nick show, the 4Kids show, the first movie, etc. That being said, the most prolific version of Ninja Turtles, the 80's cartoon, is not one in which I'm interested. I've seen a couple of episodes, but it isn't really my cup of tea. I know this forum was originally based on the 80's Turtles, but I was wondering if there were any other 80's show nonfans out there.

Pagong · 03-12-2014, 12:24 PM

I grew up with these cartoons, I understand why you will not like it since you grew up with the 4kids one. I'm not saying that I liked the OT more than the 4kids incarnation, but Based on my childhood experience the original toon was the reason why I got hooked with TMNT. But to agree with you, I don't think I have the patience to rewatch the old 80's show all over again.. maybe a few episodes. hehehehe.

CowabungaMikey · 03-12-2014, 01:07 PM

I really like the 1987 show just as much as all the other shows. (Okay, The Next Mutation is worse). But it's just an opinion thing I guess.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-12-2014, 01:10 PM

Still greatly prefer the OT over Next Mutation and Nick...which is odd because the original 'toon is much cornier than the Nick show, but it's fuelled by a childhood attachment, plus the characters are just more endearing, relatable and arent annoying.

*CyberCubed* · 03-12-2014, 01:45 PM

The OT's strength comes from an enjoyable main cast and villains with wacky sci-fi plots and some funny dialogue that comes out of nowhere.

It's understandable that if you grew up with the 4kids series that you would find it hard to get into the original show. But if you can I suggest you give it a chance. The episodes are what cartoons were like in the 80's and early 90's and the cheesiness actually makes it fun.

This is one of those shows where actual stupid things happening isn't bothersome and the show has some very fun episodes done on a one and done format.

*Discogod* · 03-12-2014, 02:15 PM

I grew up during the height of Turtlemania, but I never really liked the cartoon. Part of that was the awful, edited-to-hell version we got over here (having watched the uncut versions of the original episodes, they are much better), but part of it was the goofyness. I discovered the Mirage & Archie comics (not to mention the toys) before I was able to watch the cartoon, and was disappointed at how different it was from the original comics.

It does probably have the greatest theme tune of any cartoon, ever, though...

*Andrew NDB* · 03-12-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxBoxKid

I was wondering if there were any other 80's show nonfans out there.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 03-12-2014, 02:20 PM

I like the theme song, first few seasons. But after a while, It kinda lost me during the later ones when the animation started to get sloppy and the comedy became too obnoxious. Then, later when the show started getting better, it took itself way too seriously.

~~ABrown~~ · 03-12-2014, 02:33 PM

If you became a TMNT fan during the 4Kids series, try watching the "red sky" episodes of the original cartoon. The last three seasons, seasons 8-10, were a little closer to the 4Kids series. I loved the red sky episodes. I think that they had better animation than seasons 1-7, and the story lines were much better as well.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-12-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jkNcMZVGCO...nd_raising.jpg

He didn't ask, "Does anyone here only barely like TMNT at all except for one very specific, very niche interpretation of it."

Juuuuuust kiddin'.

*CyberCubed* · 03-12-2014, 02:41 PM

Even if you didn't grow up with it I find the OT to be a fun series that you can just relax and enjoy and not have to worry about story arcs or plot twists.

It's a stress release show.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-12-2014, 02:49 PM

Some people just can't accept silly or stupid or camp or whatever unless it was an active part of their childhood.

He-Man is another perfect example. People who didn't grow up watching it - or who did, but somehow grew up into cynical, jaded bastards anyway - just harp on all the recycled stock animation and how like four people did all the voices in the entire show, and how corny it was at times. But nobody watching it then gave a sh*t, they/we were well aware of those things even at a young age and accepted it as part of the show's charm.

Kids who grew up watching it still swear it holds up, and anyone who didn't watch it then looks at it now and declares, "How could anyone have watched this?" Same exact thing with the TMNT.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 03-12-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Discogod

I grew up during the height of Turtlemania, but I never really liked the cartoon. Part of that was the awful, edited-to-hell version we got over here (having watched the uncut versions of the original episodes, they are much better), but part of it was the goofyness.

Yeah, sometimes it sucks being a TMNT fan over here.

ticktack · 03-12-2014, 02:57 PM

There are differences between fans that
are not familiar with the 80's and
"I'm not fond of it". Which ones would you like to respond?
The second ones? Well, could you yourself bring your viewpoint on what was your problem with it?

Gabriel GP · 03-12-2014, 03:01 PM

I don't like that much of the OT either. I prefer much more the comics and the 2003 and 2012 series. But the OT certainly had its importance

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 03-12-2014, 03:42 PM

I do respect the 80s series. I even really liked Season 1 and 2, but after that, i just lost interest.

I suppose the reason is I prefer to watch an animated series that has story archs, as it will actually lead somewhere. I'm not really keen on Animated series that have a lot of episodes that don't lead anywhere.

This is not me bashing the 80s series. This is just me explaining why I'm not really keen on it.

Saying that, the voice acting is really good. It has very good humour in it and the animation was good for it's time. And also, the theme, you can't resist the theme. The theme is awesome.

*snake* · 03-12-2014, 03:43 PM

Early seasons are nice, red sky sucks.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-12-2014, 03:44 PM

Love/Hate it. Loved absolutely everything about it as a kid. Now, I can watch it and love SOME of it, and some of it I can't stand, but can sit through for nostalgia.

I like it, but I'll grant a critic absolutely everything that's wrong with it, especially the dregs in the middle seasons.

And why were there TWO Don Turtelli's? We ever find that one out?

FoxBoxKid · 03-12-2014, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticktack

There are differences between fans that
are not familiar with the 80's and
"I'm not fond of it". Which ones would you like to respond?
The second ones? Well, could you yourself bring your viewpoint on what was your problem with it?

I've only seen a couple of episodes, and I might watch more in the future, but, honestly, it was too silly for me, and I really do not enjoy episodic TV shows in general.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-12-2014, 03:48 PM

Just curious, but how old are you? I totally agree, some episodes of that show are total groaners. But as others have said, in the 1980s, that was pretty much how cartoons were done across the board, with very, very few exceptions. It's very much a product of its time, for better and for worse.

That's why I said earlier that people who didn't grow up with some of that stuff have a harder time dealing with it now.

03-12-2014, 11:44 AM	#1
FoxBoxKid Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 214	80's Cartoon Nonfans I was introduced to TMNT through the 4Kids cartoon, probably the least prolific Turtles show and since then, I've been the biggest Ninja Turtles fan I know, (outside of this forum, of course). I enjoy the IDW comics, the Mirage comics, the Nick show, the 4Kids show, the first movie, etc. That being said, the most prolific version of Ninja Turtles, the 80's cartoon, is not one in which I'm interested. I've seen a couple of episodes, but it isn't really my cup of tea. I know this forum was originally based on the 80's Turtles, but I was wondering if there were any other 80's show nonfans out there.

03-12-2014, 12:24 PM	#2
Pagong Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Philippines Posts: 33	I grew up with these cartoons, I understand why you will not like it since you grew up with the 4kids one. I'm not saying that I liked the OT more than the 4kids incarnation, but Based on my childhood experience the original toon was the reason why I got hooked with TMNT. But to agree with you, I don't think I have the patience to rewatch the old 80's show all over again.. maybe a few episodes. hehehehe. __________________ Oh. This is just FINE! We've gone back to our Omelet days! We have to grow up all Over again!

03-12-2014, 01:07 PM	#3
CowabungaMikey Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 661	I really like the 1987 show just as much as all the other shows. (Okay, The Next Mutation is worse). But it's just an opinion thing I guess. __________________ Cowabunga says it all!

03-12-2014, 01:10 PM	#4
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	Still greatly prefer the OT over Next Mutation and Nick...which is odd because the original 'toon is much cornier than the Nick show, but it's fuelled by a childhood attachment, plus the characters are just more endearing, relatable and arent annoying. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

03-12-2014, 02:20 PM	#8
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	I like the theme song, first few seasons. But after a while, It kinda lost me during the later ones when the animation started to get sloppy and the comedy became too obnoxious. Then, later when the show started getting better, it took itself way too seriously. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

03-12-2014, 01:45 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	The OT's strength comes from an enjoyable main cast and villains with wacky sci-fi plots and some funny dialogue that comes out of nowhere. It's understandable that if you grew up with the 4kids series that you would find it hard to get into the original show. But if you can I suggest you give it a chance. The episodes are what cartoons were like in the 80's and early 90's and the cheesiness actually makes it fun. This is one of those shows where actual stupid things happening isn't bothersome and the show has some very fun episodes done on a one and done format.

03-12-2014, 02:15 PM	#6
Discogod Resolutely Analogue. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,707	I grew up during the height of Turtlemania, but I never really liked the cartoon. Part of that was the awful, edited-to-hell version we got over here (having watched the uncut versions of the original episodes, they are much better), but part of it was the goofyness. I discovered the Mirage & Archie comics (not to mention the toys) before I was able to watch the cartoon, and was disappointed at how different it was from the original comics. It does probably have the greatest theme tune of any cartoon, ever, though...

03-12-2014, 02:33 PM	#9
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	If you became a TMNT fan during the 4Kids series, try watching the "red sky" episodes of the original cartoon. The last three seasons, seasons 8-10, were a little closer to the 4Kids series. I loved the red sky episodes. I think that they had better animation than seasons 1-7, and the story lines were much better as well.

03-12-2014, 02:41 PM	#11
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	Even if you didn't grow up with it I find the OT to be a fun series that you can just relax and enjoy and not have to worry about story arcs or plot twists. It's a stress release show.

03-12-2014, 02:49 PM	#12
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Some people just can't accept silly or stupid or camp or whatever unless it was an active part of their childhood. He-Man is another perfect example. People who didn't grow up watching it - or who did, but somehow grew up into cynical, jaded bastards anyway - just harp on all the recycled stock animation and how like four people did all the voices in the entire show, and how corny it was at times. But nobody watching it then gave a sh*t, they/we were well aware of those things even at a young age and accepted it as part of the show's charm. Kids who grew up watching it still swear it holds up, and anyone who didn't watch it then looks at it now and declares, "How could anyone have watched this?" Same exact thing with the TMNT.

03-12-2014, 02:57 PM	#14
ticktack Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 423	There are differences between fans that are not familiar with the 80's and "I'm not fond of it". Which ones would you like to respond? The second ones? Well, could you yourself bring your viewpoint on what was your problem with it?

03-12-2014, 03:01 PM	#15
Gabriel GP Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brazil Posts: 176	I don't like that much of the OT either. I prefer much more the comics and the 2003 and 2012 series. But the OT certainly had its importance __________________

03-12-2014, 03:42 PM	#16
Whatswiththeheadbands? The Weed of Crime Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Shadow's Sanctum Posts: 3,007	I do respect the 80s series. I even really liked Season 1 and 2, but after that, i just lost interest. I suppose the reason is I prefer to watch an animated series that has story archs, as it will actually lead somewhere. I'm not really keen on Animated series that have a lot of episodes that don't lead anywhere. This is not me bashing the 80s series. This is just me explaining why I'm not really keen on it. Saying that, the voice acting is really good. It has very good humour in it and the animation was good for it's time. And also, the theme, you can't resist the theme. The theme is awesome. __________________ Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of Men? The Shadow knows...

03-12-2014, 03:43 PM	#17
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Early seasons are nice, red sky sucks.

03-12-2014, 03:44 PM	#18
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Love/Hate it. Loved absolutely everything about it as a kid. Now, I can watch it and love SOME of it, and some of it I can't stand, but can sit through for nostalgia. I like it, but I'll grant a critic absolutely everything that's wrong with it, especially the dregs in the middle seasons. And why were there TWO Don Turtelli's? We ever find that one out?

03-12-2014, 03:48 PM	#20
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Just curious, but how old are you? I totally agree, some episodes of that show are total groaners. But as others have said, in the 1980s, that was pretty much how cartoons were done across the board, with very, very few exceptions. It's very much a product of its time, for better and for worse. That's why I said earlier that people who didn't grow up with some of that stuff have a harder time dealing with it now.