Godzilla

~~electric_sheep~~ · 05-16-2014, 05:45 PM

So in anticipation for the movie let's remmeber the classics, wich one's your favorite?

Kingoji · 05-16-2014, 05:49 PM

The original Japanese edit of the first film. Dated special effects aside, it's a genuine masterpiece.

~~Leo656~~ · 05-16-2014, 06:27 PM

Yeah, aside from this one, definitely the original. I thought "Vs. Destoroyah", "Vs. MechaGodzilla II" and "Vs. MegaGuirus" were all pretty good, also, but I haven't seen a whole lot of the films in the series yet.

The original was the most "pure", before it became a "genre" or any kind of self-parody type of thing, so it's really hard to top it, in my opinion. Nothing "campy" about it. It's just dark and bleak and "real" in a way none of the others I've seen were.

I feel you can get a little "cute" with it, but I think the entire thing works best when played relatively straight. This giant monster stuff is like, an Apocalyptic scenario, so I kind of don't like when they get too cheesy.

*Allio* · 05-16-2014, 09:13 PM

My personal favorite movie? "Against Mecha Godzilla" so far, but I am having a hard time comparing it to the heisei movies

favorite era: Heisei

*Wildcat* · 05-17-2014, 12:01 AM

I haven't seen alot but as far as the over the top stuff it turned into, I really liked Godzilla vs Space Godzilla. Haven't seen Gojira, just King of the Monsters. It was ok.

I can actually list what Ive seen

KoftM
Terror of MechaGodzilla
vs Mothra (old one)
Ghidorah the 3-Headed Monster
Godzilla's Revenge (terrible, and very misleading, compilation edit I guess)
vs MechaGodzilla 2
vs King Ghidorah
vs SpaceGodzilla
vs Destroyah
'98 American
2000
Giant Monsters All Out Attack
vs Megaguirus

Just DVRed Godzilla Raids Again but haven't seen it yet. Is this supposed to be a sequel to the original? I really wanna see Final Wars. Ive heard its the most outrageous.

~~Leo656~~ · 05-17-2014, 12:46 AM

Yeah "Godzilla Raids Again" was the very first sequel and came out a year after the original.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 05-17-2014, 01:05 AM

I really like Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, Godzilla costume in that one's perfect plus you've got Baby Godzilla finaly grown up, Godzilla vs Space Godzilla is allso really good and every time MechaGodzilla shows up it's epic especialy in the one where he had chest freeze canon...

FlawedCoil82 · 05-17-2014, 01:32 AM

In case newer fans aren't familiar with Godzilla, I will list all his movies in order (with alternate titles in parentheses). Im doing all this from memory so apologies for any errors.

SHOWA SERIES
1. Godzilla (Godzilla: King Of The Monsters)
2. Godzilla Raids Again (Gigantis: The Fire Monster)
3. King Kong vs. Godzilla
4. Mothra vs. Godzilla (Godzilla vs. The Thing)
5. Ghidorah: The Three-Headed Monster
6. Godzilla vs. Monster Zero (Invasion Of Astro Monster)
7. Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (Ebirah: Horror Of The Deep)
8. Son Of Godzilla
9. Destroy All Monsters
10. Godzilla's Revenge (All Monsters Attack)
11. Godzilla vs. Hedorah (Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster)
12. Godzilla vs. Gigan (Godzilla On Monster Island)
13. Godzilla vs. Megalon
14. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (Godzilla vs. The Cosmic Monster)
15. Terror Of Mechagodzilla

HEISEI SERIES
16. Return Of Godzilla (Godzilla 1985)
17. Godzilla vs. Biollante
18. Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
19. Godzilla vs. Mothra (Godzilla And Mothra: The Battle For Earth)
20. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II
21. Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla
22. Godzilla vs. Destoroyah

Tristar's 1998 Godzilla-ish movie came here.

MILLENNIUM SERIES
23. Godzilla 2000
24. Godzilla vs. Megaguirus
25. Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All Out Attack
26. Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla
27. Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. (Godzilla X Mothra X Mechagodzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.)
28. Godzilla: Final Wars

Legendary's 2014 Godzilla movie goes here.

Hope this list helps.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 05-17-2014, 02:01 AM

Godzilla '98 is an awful, awful Godzilla movie but it's ok Zilla movie...

~~Leo656~~ · 05-17-2014, 02:26 AM

I like how they worked Zilla into the "real" Godzilla movies, referencing it as just some mutant lizard the Americans ignorantly mistook for Godzilla. And then the Real Godzilla murdered his ass quicker than Butterbean knocked out Bart Gunn. That was amazing. That alone kind of redeems the existence of the 1998 version. Sort of.

Odd confession. I love King Ghidorah, the character, but have never seen a full movie with him in it, just pieces. There's just something about a three-headed dragon that spits lightning, though, that I love.

FlawedCoil: My only question is, why do a list from memory when a wikipedia search takes 10 seconds?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzill...e)#Filmography
Just curious.

Nice job, though. I've only seen, like, five of 'em. Bah.

FlawedCoil82 · 05-17-2014, 02:31 AM

Good point! I guess Im overly tired and wasnt thinking straight.

*Wildcat* · 05-17-2014, 06:44 PM

So its the Showa era where everything (except the beginning) is kinda ligthearted and cartoony? Godziilla looks like a muppet and acts like a mascot. I don't like that at all sorry to any hardcore fans its just ridiculous.

I really don't know what era it which or if some bleed into others. Just going by that list and what Ive seen. Just rememberd I actually did see the newer vs Mothra too, the one with Battra.

FlawedCoil82 · 05-17-2014, 07:47 PM

Yea, after "Ghidorah: The Three-Headed Monster", thats when Godzilla became a protector and more "kid-friendly". My favorite films (by far) are the Heisei films. Godzilla looked amazing (I don't care what anyone says....'89 - '95 is the "definitive" look for Godzilla and all other incarnations....including the 2014 one, are inferior). Plus the enemy monsters seemed to be better designed and give Godzilla a harder time. Plus, I found them to be scarier looking.

~~Leo656~~ · 05-17-2014, 07:57 PM

I liked how he looked kind of evil and demonic in the Millennium ones. At least to me he did.

FlawedCoil82 · 05-17-2014, 08:03 PM

The only one I thought he looked "evil" in was GMK Giant Monsters All Out Attack. But I didn't like that movie outside of the effects being better. I don't like Godzilla being a bad guy. I don't like King Ghidorah being a good guy (or a wimp....which he was in this film). In fact King Ghidorah, Mothra and Baragon were all too weak to give Godzilla any type of challenge. That movie just irritated me. Definitely my least favorite of the Millennium films.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 05-17-2014, 08:18 PM

I love Godzilla JR. design

He doesen't have huge thighs that i hate if he only had bigger spikes he would be perfect..

he looks like a slimer version of 2014 Godzilla with a longer snout.

~~Leo656~~ · 05-17-2014, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82

The only one I thought he looked "evil" in was GMK Giant Monsters All Out Attack. But I didn't like that movie outside of the effects being better. I don't like Godzilla being a bad guy. I don't like King Ghidorah being a good guy (or a wimp....which he was in this film). In fact King Ghidorah, Mothra and Baragon were all too weak to give Godzilla any type of challenge. That movie just irritated me. Definitely my least favorite of the Millennium films.

I'd read that, actually. I didn't see that one, but I heard they'd de-powered those monsters to make Godzilla more powerful. I get it, but wasn't Ghidorah, like, THE evil monster from back in the day? I swore he was supposed to be bigger than Godzilla.

I do like "evil", or at least sinister or "anarchist" Godzilla. I don't necessarily think he'd have expressly "good" or "evil" traits consistently. He's a gigantic lizard monster that spits fire, a good deal of his mayhem should occasionally be because "F*ck you, I'm Godzilla, That's Why."

*Wildcat* · 05-17-2014, 08:29 PM

My favorite designs must be the millennium era. Haven't seen all of them but I like the bigger, pointy spikes and really liked his evil look in GMK but Ive seen others who don't like it either. I just don't like how some designs give him such huge thighs and legs. Its silly looking.

I like the new movie design. Its meant to portray him as a more realistic creature that was mutated. The Toho designs are more on the side of monsterous and dragon like which is cool too.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 05-17-2014, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'd read that, actually. I didn't see that one, but I heard they'd de-powered those monsters to make Godzilla more powerful. I get it, but wasn't Ghidorah, like, THE evil monster from back in the day? I swore he was supposed to be bigger than Godzilla.

I do like "evil", or at least sinister or "anarchist" Godzilla. I don't necessarily think he'd have expressly "good" or "evil" traits consistently. He's a gigantic lizard monster that spits fire, a good deal of his mayhem should occasionally be because "F*ck you, I'm Godzilla, That's Why."

Well it's obvious what's going on here, he's possesed by a deadite...

*The Stryker* · 05-17-2014, 09:50 PM

I think the gimmick in GMK is that Godzilla was a representation of the souls that died in the bombings or something like that instead of some radiation monster.

He's pretty much Jason Voorhees. Especially with the beating heart ending.

05-16-2014, 05:45 PM	#1
~~electric_sheep~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,639	Godzilla So in anticipation for the movie let's remmeber the classics, wich one's your favorite?

05-16-2014, 09:13 PM	#4
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	My personal favorite movie? "Against Mecha Godzilla" so far, but I am having a hard time comparing it to the heisei movies favorite era: Heisei __________________

05-17-2014, 12:01 AM	#5
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	I haven't seen alot but as far as the over the top stuff it turned into, I really liked Godzilla vs Space Godzilla. Haven't seen Gojira, just King of the Monsters. It was ok. I can actually list what Ive seen KoftM Terror of MechaGodzilla vs Mothra (old one) Ghidorah the 3-Headed Monster Godzilla's Revenge (terrible, and very misleading, compilation edit I guess) vs MechaGodzilla 2 vs King Ghidorah vs SpaceGodzilla vs Destroyah '98 American 2000 Giant Monsters All Out Attack vs Megaguirus Just DVRed Godzilla Raids Again but haven't seen it yet. Is this supposed to be a sequel to the original? I really wanna see Final Wars. Ive heard its the most outrageous. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

05-17-2014, 01:32 AM	#8
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	Complete Godzilla Guide In case newer fans aren't familiar with Godzilla, I will list all his movies in order (with alternate titles in parentheses). Im doing all this from memory so apologies for any errors. SHOWA SERIES 1. Godzilla (Godzilla: King Of The Monsters) 2. Godzilla Raids Again (Gigantis: The Fire Monster) 3. King Kong vs. Godzilla 4. Mothra vs. Godzilla (Godzilla vs. The Thing) 5. Ghidorah: The Three-Headed Monster 6. Godzilla vs. Monster Zero (Invasion Of Astro Monster) 7. Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (Ebirah: Horror Of The Deep) 8. Son Of Godzilla 9. Destroy All Monsters 10. Godzilla's Revenge (All Monsters Attack) 11. Godzilla vs. Hedorah (Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster) 12. Godzilla vs. Gigan (Godzilla On Monster Island) 13. Godzilla vs. Megalon 14. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (Godzilla vs. The Cosmic Monster) 15. Terror Of Mechagodzilla HEISEI SERIES 16. Return Of Godzilla (Godzilla 1985) 17. Godzilla vs. Biollante 18. Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah 19. Godzilla vs. Mothra (Godzilla And Mothra: The Battle For Earth) 20. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II 21. Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla 22. Godzilla vs. Destoroyah Tristar's 1998 Godzilla-ish movie came here. MILLENNIUM SERIES 23. Godzilla 2000 24. Godzilla vs. Megaguirus 25. Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All Out Attack 26. Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla 27. Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. (Godzilla X Mothra X Mechagodzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.) 28. Godzilla: Final Wars Legendary's 2014 Godzilla movie goes here. Hope this list helps.

05-17-2014, 06:44 PM	#12
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	So its the Showa era where everything (except the beginning) is kinda ligthearted and cartoony? Godziilla looks like a muppet and acts like a mascot. I don't like that at all sorry to any hardcore fans its just ridiculous. I really don't know what era it which or if some bleed into others. Just going by that list and what Ive seen. Just rememberd I actually did see the newer vs Mothra too, the one with Battra. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

05-16-2014, 05:49 PM	#2
Kingoji Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 319	The original Japanese edit of the first film. Dated special effects aside, it's a genuine masterpiece.

05-16-2014, 06:27 PM	#3
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, aside from this one, definitely the original. I thought "Vs. Destoroyah", "Vs. MechaGodzilla II" and "Vs. MegaGuirus" were all pretty good, also, but I haven't seen a whole lot of the films in the series yet. The original was the most "pure", before it became a "genre" or any kind of self-parody type of thing, so it's really hard to top it, in my opinion. Nothing "campy" about it. It's just dark and bleak and "real" in a way none of the others I've seen were. I feel you can get a little "cute" with it, but I think the entire thing works best when played relatively straight. This giant monster stuff is like, an Apocalyptic scenario, so I kind of don't like when they get too cheesy.

05-17-2014, 12:46 AM	#6
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah "Godzilla Raids Again" was the very first sequel and came out a year after the original.

05-17-2014, 01:05 AM	#7
~~electric_sheep~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,639	I really like Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, Godzilla costume in that one's perfect plus you've got Baby Godzilla finaly grown up, Godzilla vs Space Godzilla is allso really good and every time MechaGodzilla shows up it's epic especialy in the one where he had chest freeze canon...

05-17-2014, 02:01 AM	#9
~~electric_sheep~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,639	Godzilla '98 is an awful, awful Godzilla movie but it's ok Zilla movie...

05-17-2014, 02:26 AM	#10
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I like how they worked Zilla into the "real" Godzilla movies, referencing it as just some mutant lizard the Americans ignorantly mistook for Godzilla. And then the Real Godzilla murdered his ass quicker than Butterbean knocked out Bart Gunn. That was amazing. That alone kind of redeems the existence of the 1998 version. Sort of. Odd confession. I love King Ghidorah, the character, but have never seen a full movie with him in it, just pieces. There's just something about a three-headed dragon that spits lightning, though, that I love. FlawedCoil: My only question is, why do a list from memory when a wikipedia search takes 10 seconds? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzill...e)#Filmography Just curious. Nice job, though. I've only seen, like, five of 'em. Bah.

05-17-2014, 02:31 AM	#11
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	Good point! I guess Im overly tired and wasnt thinking straight.

05-17-2014, 07:47 PM	#13
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	Yea, after "Ghidorah: The Three-Headed Monster", thats when Godzilla became a protector and more "kid-friendly". My favorite films (by far) are the Heisei films. Godzilla looked amazing (I don't care what anyone says....'89 - '95 is the "definitive" look for Godzilla and all other incarnations....including the 2014 one, are inferior). Plus the enemy monsters seemed to be better designed and give Godzilla a harder time. Plus, I found them to be scarier looking.

05-17-2014, 07:57 PM	#14
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I liked how he looked kind of evil and demonic in the Millennium ones. At least to me he did.

05-17-2014, 08:03 PM	#15
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	The only one I thought he looked "evil" in was GMK Giant Monsters All Out Attack. But I didn't like that movie outside of the effects being better. I don't like Godzilla being a bad guy. I don't like King Ghidorah being a good guy (or a wimp....which he was in this film). In fact King Ghidorah, Mothra and Baragon were all too weak to give Godzilla any type of challenge. That movie just irritated me. Definitely my least favorite of the Millennium films.

05-17-2014, 08:18 PM	#16
~~electric_sheep~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,639	I love Godzilla JR. design He doesen't have huge thighs that i hate if he only had bigger spikes he would be perfect.. he looks like a slimer version of 2014 Godzilla with a longer snout.

05-17-2014, 08:29 PM	#18
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	My favorite designs must be the millennium era. Haven't seen all of them but I like the bigger, pointy spikes and really liked his evil look in GMK but Ive seen others who don't like it either. I just don't like how some designs give him such huge thighs and legs. Its silly looking. I like the new movie design. Its meant to portray him as a more realistic creature that was mutated. The Toho designs are more on the side of monsterous and dragon like which is cool too. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

05-17-2014, 09:50 PM	#20
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I think the gimmick in GMK is that Godzilla was a representation of the souls that died in the bombings or something like that instead of some radiation monster. He's pretty much Jason Voorhees. Especially with the beating heart ending. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@