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Yobo12 · 07-27-2003, 08:15 PM

I have a question. When ever I look through these forums and see something about the movies, people always say how terrible number 2 is, but number 3 they think is descent. Am I missing something? did we see different movies? They thought 2 sucked because it was more cartoony than the first movie and had vanilla ice. But they thought 3 was descent even though the turtles looked like tiny frogs, they travaled back in time through lamps, had horrible acting, and pretty much destroyed my favortie character ( Raph being a father figure!!!!

) I mean come one, atleast 2 was somewhat enjoying to watch, number 3 makes you feel like an idiot for spending time to watch it.... Oh and on the cgi show that never was, in my oppinion the show never got picked up because of how bad the turtles look, I mean there wicked ugly in the pilot. It would be so hard to get new fans from things that look like that

...Oh and on a side not, does anyone know whats going on with the tv movie from hallmark, Ive been told its been stalled due to no air-time date or something, but does anyone know any links to find any info on it? ...later

Yobo12 · 07-27-2003, 08:18 PM

I didnt mean to sound like that. I do love all 3 of the films

along with everything else ninja turtles. Just thought Secret of the Ooze deserves more credit than people give it.

Psycho Da Turtle · 07-27-2003, 08:21 PM

TINY fogs....am i missing something?
I dunno what kind of frogs you have in your backyard, but mine are pretty damn tiny compared to the man sized looking ones in the 3rd movie. I agree costumes werent great, but I've seen much worse in my day...and I leave you with this...
"....look like tiny frogs..." yes...
(Note: This is a joke, not meant to offend anyone or start a fight, I love yous kids!)

~~Reznorite420~~ · 07-27-2003, 11:52 PM

About the pilot; remember, it wasn't anywhere near a finished episode, so I'm guessing they might have made better models had it been off the ground. Besides, if you're basing your judgement on the video that's available at the official site, then keep in mind that the video quality isn't the best either.

*Jephael* · 07-28-2003, 07:22 PM

The second flick was always my favorite, mainly because I felt the costumes were much better looking. I mean I know they looked cool in the first flick, but they seemed somewhat improved in the sequal, not to mention how cool they made Tokka and Rahzar look!

I liked the idea that the third movie presented, but I have to admit that it could've been done alot better, especially if they had cast someone as Renet in it. Ever since I first started reading the Mirage series, she has been my favorite secondary character of the original comic book.

**Jo Dawn** · 07-29-2003, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

The second flick was always my favorite, mainly because I felt the costumes were much better looking.

I agree. The second was always my favorite, and I did like the costumes better in the second movie. Although, I do like the first movie as much as the second, but there are a few things that just make the second one better for me.

The third, well, I love all things TMNT... and it does have some redeeming qualites... but of the movies I like it the least. But I do have it on DVD

Jo

*J Legault* · 07-29-2003, 05:32 PM

For me I like both sequal no matter how off ballanced they are. I like the second one since it contain more plotline and the third one just showed how boring it can get with no Shredder running around. So it would of been better, but still all 3 are my favorite.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-29-2003, 05:38 PM

2, only because of David Warner and Vanilla Ice.

*cqb101* · 07-29-2003, 07:15 PM

2. Just because the costumes are better.

*Skeletoncrew* · 07-29-2003, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by J Legault

For me I like both sequal no matter how off ballanced they are. I like the second one since it contain more plotline and the third one just showed how boring it can get with no Shredder running around. So it would of been better, but still all 3 are my favorite.

Maybe they shoulda had Shredder jog through the background of one of the scenes.

**Jo Dawn** · 07-29-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeletoncrew

Maybe they shoulda had Shredder jog through the background of one of the scenes.

Oh, I can just see that...

Too funny!

Jo

*Kid Icarus* · 07-29-2003, 10:10 PM

3 was actually about them saving Japan, not China

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#2 gets my vote, cause it's better than the third, and number 1 isn't on there.

Misfit · 07-30-2003, 01:47 AM

I also despise the 3rd movie. It was a great idea, the turtles go to Japan, but it was handled so poorly and to me it feels like an episode of Next Mutation or something (which I equelly hate). The whole thing with the Septor (or whatever) was stupid, they could've come up with a better way for the TMNTs to time travel than that. I agree the whole thing with Raph being a sensible father figure was way off, I couldn't take that seriously for one minute. That is NOT Raphael. Overall I just thought the movie was dumb. I own the video, but only because I bought it when it first came out and I've watched it maybe a handful of times since, if that.

The second movie was alright. I hated Tokka and Razor (why not just use Rocksteady and Bebop?). The turtle costumes were okay, I liked the first movie ones better. Splinter looked really weird IMHO, more like a dog than a rat. He looked even worse in the 3rd. It had some good stuff though, I liked Paige whatshername as April (though the original April from the 1st movie will always be my fave). The nightclub scene, stupid as it is, makes me laugh a lot. I just wish they hadn't treated Casey Jones' character as though he'd never even existed. *sigh*

DarkNinja · 07-30-2003, 04:40 AM

2, because the costumes are better, plot makes more sense, and has Shredder.

**Jo Dawn** · 07-30-2003, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaGirl21

I also despise the 3rd movie. It was a great idea, the turtles go to Japan, but it was handled so poorly and to me it feels like an episode of Next Mutation or something (which I equelly hate).

Yeah, the third had a good idea, I just thought alot of it was out of character. Like, it was very obvious to me that Corey Feldman was the big star name voice in the movie, and I think Don talked more in that movie, and had more snappy comebacks and stuff than almost anyone else. I dunno, maybe that was just me, though...

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Originally Posted by NinjaGirl21

Splinter looked really weird IMHO, more like a dog than a rat. He looked even worse in the 3rd.

Splinter in the third movie always reminded me of those Chuck E Cheese puppets, when he was in the window all the time...

Or maybe that's just me...

Jo

**HorseTechie** · 07-31-2003, 01:45 PM

(BTW.. they went back to Japan, not China... even though all of it was filmed in Oregon.)

What was funny, is that I thought TMNT2 was bad. Then TMNT3 came out! At first, I couldn't wait to see TMNT3. I saw them riding horses! I love horses, and always had this thing with TMNT riding horses, so....

But after I saw TMNT3, I was mad. The parts that made me believe it was the TMNT, it was just the human guards on horseback. The TMNT hardly managed to ride for longer than five minutes combined.

And then there were the horrible looking frog faces... *sai* Oh well, at least the first five minutes of this movie rocked.

*J Legault* · 08-01-2003, 02:08 PM

The turtle costumes in #3 were more smoother. Splinter had more shaggy hair then the previous 2. I couldn't believe so many of you that are saying that the sequals stink. For me I give them all A+'s for good action and humor.

Since alot of you think they should do better maybe Shredder should of died in the third. And the thrid one should be instead of 1603 Japan it will be involved with Leatherhead or some Mirage charater.

Hopefully you'll all think different when the new mini series comes on the Hallmark channel.

Psycrow · 08-01-2003, 02:45 PM

I like the second movie better than the third one, but I think we can all agree that how you went from the first movie to these 2 demon spawns is quite mind boggling.

**Karpo_007** · 08-01-2003, 05:49 PM

They went that way beacuse the studio wanted to do children's movies. Eastman or Laird didn't have much controll over that. Well for the flop of the sequels New line can only blame for themselfs. For the record, First movie made more profit then the two sequels combined.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 08-01-2003, 06:43 PM

Did I hear that correctly? You hated Tokka?

Anyway, the first movie almost always does the best....it's just a thing about sequels.

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07-27-2003, 08:15 PM	#1
Yobo12 New Recruit Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3	question I have a question. When ever I look through these forums and see something about the movies, people always say how terrible number 2 is, but number 3 they think is descent. Am I missing something? did we see different movies? They thought 2 sucked because it was more cartoony than the first movie and had vanilla ice. But they thought 3 was descent even though the turtles looked like tiny frogs, they travaled back in time through lamps, had horrible acting, and pretty much destroyed my favortie character ( Raph being a father figure!!!! ) I mean come one, atleast 2 was somewhat enjoying to watch, number 3 makes you feel like an idiot for spending time to watch it.... Oh and on the cgi show that never was, in my oppinion the show never got picked up because of how bad the turtles look, I mean there wicked ugly in the pilot. It would be so hard to get new fans from things that look like that ...Oh and on a side not, does anyone know whats going on with the tv movie from hallmark, Ive been told its been stalled due to no air-time date or something, but does anyone know any links to find any info on it? ...later

07-28-2003, 07:22 PM	#5
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,142	The second flick was always my favorite, mainly because I felt the costumes were much better looking. I mean I know they looked cool in the first flick, but they seemed somewhat improved in the sequal, not to mention how cool they made Tokka and Rahzar look! I liked the idea that the third movie presented, but I have to admit that it could've been done alot better, especially if they had cast someone as Renet in it. Ever since I first started reading the Mirage series, she has been my favorite secondary character of the original comic book. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

07-29-2003, 05:32 PM	#7
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	For me I like both sequal no matter how off ballanced they are. I like the second one since it contain more plotline and the third one just showed how boring it can get with no Shredder running around. So it would of been better, but still all 3 are my favorite. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

07-29-2003, 07:15 PM	#9
cqb101 Cinephile Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 8,489	2. Just because the costumes are better. __________________ Facebook

07-27-2003, 08:18 PM	#2
Yobo12 New Recruit Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3	I didnt mean to sound like that. I do love all 3 of the films along with everything else ninja turtles. Just thought Secret of the Ooze deserves more credit than people give it.

07-27-2003, 08:21 PM	#3
Psycho Da Turtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 203 Posts: 153	TINY fogs....am i missing something? I dunno what kind of frogs you have in your backyard, but mine are pretty damn tiny compared to the man sized looking ones in the 3rd movie. I agree costumes werent great, but I've seen much worse in my day...and I leave you with this... "....look like tiny frogs..." yes... (Note: This is a joke, not meant to offend anyone or start a fight, I love yous kids!) __________________ Pizza Guy: Hey, this is a ten, the tabs 13! Mikey: Your three minutes late dude! Pizza Guy: Aw come on, I couldn't find the place! Mikey:Wise man say, forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza!

07-27-2003, 11:52 PM	#4
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	About the pilot; remember, it wasn't anywhere near a finished episode, so I'm guessing they might have made better models had it been off the ground. Besides, if you're basing your judgement on the video that's available at the official site, then keep in mind that the video quality isn't the best either.

07-29-2003, 05:38 PM	#8
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	2, only because of David Warner and Vanilla Ice.

07-29-2003, 10:10 PM	#12
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	3 was actually about them saving Japan, not China . #2 gets my vote, cause it's better than the third, and number 1 isn't on there.

07-30-2003, 01:47 AM	#13
Misfit Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 508	I also despise the 3rd movie. It was a great idea, the turtles go to Japan, but it was handled so poorly and to me it feels like an episode of Next Mutation or something (which I equelly hate). The whole thing with the Septor (or whatever) was stupid, they could've come up with a better way for the TMNTs to time travel than that. I agree the whole thing with Raph being a sensible father figure was way off, I couldn't take that seriously for one minute. That is NOT Raphael. Overall I just thought the movie was dumb. I own the video, but only because I bought it when it first came out and I've watched it maybe a handful of times since, if that. The second movie was alright. I hated Tokka and Razor (why not just use Rocksteady and Bebop?). The turtle costumes were okay, I liked the first movie ones better. Splinter looked really weird IMHO, more like a dog than a rat. He looked even worse in the 3rd. It had some good stuff though, I liked Paige whatshername as April (though the original April from the 1st movie will always be my fave). The nightclub scene, stupid as it is, makes me laugh a lot. I just wish they hadn't treated Casey Jones' character as though he'd never even existed. sigh

07-30-2003, 04:40 AM	#14
DarkNinja Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA Posts: 162	2, because the costumes are better, plot makes more sense, and has Shredder. __________________ Do not think that you have to win, rather, think that you do not have to lose. -Gichin Funakoshi

07-31-2003, 01:45 PM	#16
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	(BTW.. they went back to Japan, not China... even though all of it was filmed in Oregon.) What was funny, is that I thought TMNT2 was bad. Then TMNT3 came out! At first, I couldn't wait to see TMNT3. I saw them riding horses! I love horses, and always had this thing with TMNT riding horses, so.... But after I saw TMNT3, I was mad. The parts that made me believe it was the TMNT, it was just the human guards on horseback. The TMNT hardly managed to ride for longer than five minutes combined. And then there were the horrible looking frog faces... sai Oh well, at least the first five minutes of this movie rocked.

08-01-2003, 02:08 PM	#17
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	The turtle costumes in #3 were more smoother. Splinter had more shaggy hair then the previous 2. I couldn't believe so many of you that are saying that the sequals stink. For me I give them all A+'s for good action and humor. Since alot of you think they should do better maybe Shredder should of died in the third. And the thrid one should be instead of 1603 Japan it will be involved with Leatherhead or some Mirage charater. Hopefully you'll all think different when the new mini series comes on the Hallmark channel. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

08-01-2003, 02:45 PM	#18
Psycrow Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 435	I like the second movie better than the third one, but I think we can all agree that how you went from the first movie to these 2 demon spawns is quite mind boggling. __________________ "Before you criticize others you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away... and you have their shoes."

08-01-2003, 05:49 PM	#19
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	They went that way beacuse the studio wanted to do children's movies. Eastman or Laird didn't have much controll over that. Well for the flop of the sequels New line can only blame for themselfs. For the record, First movie made more profit then the two sequels combined.

08-01-2003, 06:43 PM	#20
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Did I hear that correctly? You hated Tokka? Anyway, the first movie almost always does the best....it's just a thing about sequels.