Mikey and Don series

[Leo2k3]

Hey everyone! Sorry if someone already posted this topic elsewhere. I haven't been on the forums in a while, but anyway I wanted to sort of take a look at something.
Has anyone noticed that the Nick series as a whole, seems to focus on Mikey and Donatello a lot? I mean, it seemed the 2003 series focused on Leonardo, and this series is giving tons of attention to Mikey and Don. I always wanted more attention to the turtles that did not seem to receive a lot of care from the writers of the previous series. Anyway the focus on Mikey and Don further illustrates another reason why this show is great!

[terrorblade]

I think the show is more focused on Leo and Donnie. I hope Mikey and Raph become the main focus next season. It's not as bad as the 2k3 series though, that show is like Leonardo and friends.

[Werecat]

Originally Posted by terrorblade

I think the show is more focused on Leo and Donnie. I hope Mikey and Raph become the main focus next season. It's not as bad as the 2k3 series though, that show is like Leonardo and friends.

lol. Almost every TMNT incarnation is Leonardo and friends. I am really disappointed that they don't use Raphael and Donatello for interesting, unique storylines.

I want a storyline were Raph is just a monster and he must accept the monstrosity within. I don't like the tamed anger/rage. With the storyline exploring the impulsive aggressiveness and inclination to kill would make the story a bit more epic and give some weight to Raph's berserker side.

Donatello is the most misused character though. With his engineering and science skills they could create the most awesome storylines that could influence more people to go into science. Science isn't boring. Science is interesting and they need Donatello episodes that explore his fascination for science. I really dislike how Donatello episodes only explore his crush instead of scientific pursuits.

[Donatello19]

Mm, no...this show tends to focus more on LEO and Don. Mike and Raph aren't focused on as much.

[Eiko]

Originally Posted by terrorblade

I think the show is more focused on Leo and Donnie. I hope Mikey and Raph become the main focus next season. It's not as bad as the 2k3 series though, that show is like Leonardo and friends.

I agree, it is more Don and Leo ,but the way the storyline is going looks like we could get another Leo and Friends.

[Jester]

Raph probably gets the shortest end of the stick. Leo and Donnie are probably getting the most focus, with Mikey not too far behind.

[BabyTurtles]

it's more of a Donnie and Leo show lately......

Raph and Mikey need more love for sure.

[CyberCubed]

You guys are seeing things. Every turtle gets equal focus.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You guys are seeing things. Every turtle gets equal focus.

Yeah I gotta go with Cubed on this one.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by Kas

is just that Leo's and Donnie's storylines seem to be more deep than Mikey's and Raph's ones.

And that's just the problem. Mikey and Raph technically don't even HAVE ongoing storylines. I hope they each get one in Season 3.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Werecat

lol. Almost every TMNT incarnation is Leonardo and friends. I am really disappointed that they don't use Raphael and Donatello for interesting, unique storylines.

I want a storyline were Raph is just a monster and he must accept the monstrosity within. I don't like the tamed anger/rage. With the storyline exploring the impulsive aggressiveness and inclination to kill would make the story a bit more epic and give some weight to Raph's berserker side.

Donatello is the most misused character though. With his engineering and science skills they could create the most awesome storylines that could influence more people to go into science. Science isn't boring. Science is interesting and they need Donatello episodes that explore his fascination for science. I really dislike how Donatello episodes only explore his crush instead of scientific pursuits.

About your science is depicted as boring. I have a friend who is a school science teacher, and it's funny, but she said she actually started to get an increase in classmates all the way back when CSI started. I'd love it if the Turtles befriends a cop and helps him with cases from time to time (I'm actually surprised that none of the series never tried that angle)

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy View Post
And that's just the problem. Mikey and Raph technically don't even HAVE ongoing storylines. I hope they each get one in Season 3.

Damn, and there is so many venues they could go.

Mikey-while they don't have to get into the extremes, they could cover the story where he has to protect the Triceraton princess. Or, maybe they could showcase him getting the Cowabunga Carl job, and find some kids that need help. Maybe some of the kids turn to the Purple Dragons and instead of the usual Raph and Casey having their story arcs with the Purple Dragons, make it Mikey.

Raph-I would totally love it if they rip the story arc from 2k7 where he takes on the Nightwatcher for a season. He could be this series Turtle Titan, just more serious. And with his distrust of Karai, I'd love it if it was he that was right smack in the middle of the City at War storyline, instead of the usual Leo.

And if we do get Bebop and Rocksteady, I hope to see some really good story arcs here for Mikey and Raph.

[ssjup81]

I disagree. As far as significant episodes go (meaning those that move the plot along) it seems to be the Leo and Donnie show. Mikey and Raph could really use more focus.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I disagree. As far as significant episodes go (meaning those that move the plot along) it seems to be the Leo and Donnie show. Mikey and Raph could really use more focus.

Well, maybe something will come of it with Raph getting spit in the eye later on down the road. Mikey, I know he had his arc with Bradford, but that's pretty much been beat to death, no?

But yeah, I've been saying this for sometime, the focus on Leo and Donnie is very noticeable, those who don't see it, definitely got blinders on.

[victory_angel]

I forget where this was mentioned, but I remember something where Greg Cipes did mention something about Mikey getting his chance to prove himself as a leader in the upcoming season.

I certainly hope that is the case. I mean Mikey isn't really meant to be the leadership type. He's more of the childlike innocents of the group. The one that reminds everyone that light exists in even the darkest of moments. The person who tries to make everyone feel better when their down about whatever is going on in their life.

But we've never seen him being forced to handle the leadership role. Usually Donnie or Raph are the de facto leader candidates if Leo's out of the commission.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I forget where this was mentioned, but I remember something where Greg Cipes did mention something about Mikey getting his chance to prove himself as a leader in the next season.

That would be great development for him. He truly deserves it and the potential is definitely there, imo. I don't think he's true leader material, but I would like for him to prove himself and to be taken seriously, which he's wanted since the beginning.

You know, I'd like to see Donnie lead too, as we haven't seen him really do so yet, but I think he temporarily will if we're getting the Leo one-shot story.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

That would be great development for him. He truly deserves it and the potential is definitely there, imo. I don't think he's true leader material, but I would like for him to prove himself and to be taken seriously, which he's wanted since the beginning.

You know, I'd like to see Donnie lead too, as we haven't seen him really do so yet, but I think he temporarily will if we're getting the Leo one-shot story.

With our luck, it's probably going to be Karai to lead everyone out if Leo is out of commission.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, I agree, as much as I don't mind Leo getting lots of attention Mikey and Raph for sure need a more going for them in this. Some personally defining and developing stuff that will last a while.

Though I dunno about everyone up and taking over leadership, at least not long term... everyone has their role to play within the family, Leo's self identity is pretty much wrapped around Ninjitsu and improving his leadership. Donnie would prob be the best to take up the role for a time if it was needed though. And all of them could prob use some additional hobbies and stuff.

Though I don't look forward to anything that severe happening to Leo... :\

[Donatello19]

As much as I'd love to see Mike and Raph get more focus, I'm glad they Donnie is for now since they've never really done that in any incarnation before.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

You know, I'd like to see Donnie lead too, as we haven't seen him really do so yet, but I think he temporarily will if we're getting the Leo one-shot story.

That is generally the case for Donnie to serve in the role of a reluctant leader while Leo is unable to. If it's generally Raph's destiny to lose an eye, then it's Donnie's destiny to serve as a Defacto Leader until Leo is ready to return to his post.

Mirage, he was looking after things and making sure everyone had electricity and running water while at the Northampton.

I believe he also leads at points in the Archie Comics, or he did when they had that future arc where Armagon shows up.

Donnie is implied to lead the group while Leo is training under the Ancient One. He also leads the group in the 2007 Movie while Leo is training in South America.

And in the IDW Donnie is leading the group while Leo is serving the foot and while trying to sort himself out after he is rescued.

[JTH]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You guys are seeing things. Every turtle gets equal focus.

This.

Each turtle gets an equal amount of focused stories: Donnie and Leo's just tend to be more serious and plot driven where as Mikey and Raph's are more comedy based and fillers.

But they're still focused on the same.