did they really have to say this will be the best tmnt movie of all time

[mikey22]

for those who watched the sneak peak last night, you'll notice they said about 10x "this will be the best tmnt movie ever"

I think we all are excited to see ninja turtles back on the screen again, but I didn't like them saying this will be the best TMNT movie ever! c'mon now.. Once you watch the documentary and read about the heart and soul/passion that went into the very first movie, you can never duplicate that amount of hard work.

I didn't appreciate that comment...

[Werecat]

It is the best TMNT movie ever... in terms of action. Sometimes you have to pay attention to context.

[Leo656]

Me neither, but what are they gonna say? "It'll be great IF you like Bayhem movies, otherwise, go cuddle the DVD of the first movie and cry yourself to sleep?" They have to do their job in promoting the movie.

"Bigger, flashier, and more action-packed"? I can believe all that based on what I've seen so far. "Better"? Ehhhhhhhh........

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

eh,,ignore it...every studio says it,,,its just a way to try to fill seats

[Xiewin]

Can we at least wait till the movie comes out?? You never know, it could be true.

Well that depends entirely on the person though...

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by mikey22

for those who watched the sneak peak last night, you'll notice they said about 10x "this will be the best tmnt movie ever"

Yeah, I agree a bit... Had a little bit of an eye twitch moment at that "biggest and best" (or some such wording) comment.

I get it, they're selling their movie and their words are scripted, so.. meh. We'll see if they're so right. Though I agree it's not necessary. Different movies styles, shouldn't need to come off as comparing them, nor put down the old stuff in order to sell this one, which is kinda how that came across to me. If they think their film has striven to be "better" rather than being a continuation of the franchise that made use of technology available today...they're mistaken as that isn't how TMNT works.

I'm sure nothing was prob meant by it other than to excite the audience, but wording could have been different. (Drop two words and it helps... "Bigger than ever," win. "Bigger and better than ever," eh..)

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by mikey22

for those who watched the sneak peak last night, you'll notice they said about 10x "this will be the best tmnt movie ever"

I think we all are excited to see ninja turtles back on the screen again, but I didn't like them saying this will be the best TMNT movie ever! c'mon now.. Once you watch the documentary and read about the heart and soul/passion that went into the very first movie, you can never duplicate that amount of hard work.

I didn't appreciate that comment...

nobody makes something, especially a film, and says to their potential audience..."this is good, the original was better, but this is okay too"

i certainly wouldnt.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

"this is good, the original was better, but this is okay too".

if i ever make a movie this is how i am going to market it...lol

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

if i ever make a movie this is how i am going to market it...lol

lol really?

[Werecat]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

if i ever make a movie this is how i am going to market it...lol

Honest marketing lol.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

lol really?

id be joking if i didnt say i have boyhood dreams of making a ridiculous captain planet movie...in my college years it was one of my 5 final project Scripts with the cast picked out,

my choice for Planet was John Stamos with Charlie Sheen as a second choice

[Slade]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

id be joking if i didnt say i have boyhood dreams of making a ridiculous captain planet movie...in my college years it was one of my 5 final project Scripts with the cast picked out,

my choice for Planet was John Stamos with Charlie Sheen as a second choice

How long ago was this?

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

How long ago was this?

Finished in 2008 didn't Graduate college in Fall 2010

[Leo656]

Well, when "Man of Steel" was coming out, I remember them explaining at length that it was "different" than the Superman movies people were used to, but I don't recall them ever having hubris enough to claim it was "better". And it absolutely was different, and it certainly was better than a few of them (not saying much at all). But whether it was "better" than the original or "Returns" is entirely up for debate, and I think that's why they were smart enough not to try and be so presumptuous.

Sometimes, you over-sell, and in the end people aren't even as happy as they might have been, just because you set too high a bar for yourself. "Bigger", in this case, can't be argued. It's definitely bigger. "Better" is only going to be answered by each individual who sees it.

Again, they're just marketing buzzwords, but there's smart and savvy and then there's over-selling it. I don't think when they scripted it they even considered, "Well, some people may not like some of this movie and take offense to us saying it will be 'better'."

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I will be bold and say you can easily tell that these guys working on this movie know nothing about TMNT outside the 80s toon, and yes even with the small blurb of the turtles beginnings..you can know where something comes from without knowing anything about it (GOTG)....especially with Vern being a "favorite character" the guy has been in one series of the whole franchise

[fridaynightdestination]

I think it will be.


Why, you ask? Let's just look at the previous TMNT films.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)- My Score: 7.0/10 I'll give a + for good, and a - for bad.

+ I love the ninja theme in the first 30 mins or so.
+ The store fight is exciting and fun to watch.
+ The turtles act like teenagers.
+ The Foot Clan. I like the idea of them being outcasted teenagers, recruited by Shredder and living in that hideout and becoming ninja's to do crime and fight the turtles.
+April O Neal was cool to me in this one.
-Casey Jones, he feels flat and 2D to me.
-Leonardo wasn't in it enough. He's the leader, he needs to be in it more and be a more prominent leader.
-Donatello wasn't a nerd in this one. He was just kinda there. This film was my first introduction to the turtles back when I was in 2nd grade. I instantly figured out who Mikey and Raph were. Leo and Donnie, not so much.
-The cheesy ending.
-The music when they are fighting in the sewers ruins it, really stupid and cheesy.
- The stuff on the farm. I honestly didn't like any of this. It's boring to me, and the movie was on a roll of excitement, and this just brings it to a complete halt.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze- 7.5/10
+Really fun and entertaining to watch
+ The turtles personalities are finally portrayed well enough for an 88 minute movie. You can tell Leo is the leader, even if he still needed to be have that shown more, Donatello is finally shown as the brains, Mikey is still the jokester, and Raph is still the defiant one.
+ GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!
+ A fun exciting fight at the end.
+ The stakes are higher. The two big bad guys, I forget their names, could destroy all of New York. And at the end, the turtles are walking into a trap and they know it.
- Too short.
- Can get a little too cheesy.
- The donuts thing at the end is kinda cringe-worthy.
- I honestly didn't like that kid. He had his moments, but I would've liked it more if it was just the turtles.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III- 4.0/10
+ The Japanese setting is cool.
+ Has some good character development for the turtles.
- Everything else.

TMNT (2007)- 7.0/10
+Great animation.
+ The tension between Raphael and Leonardo.
+ Probably my favorite incarnation of Raphael ever. You really root for him in this movie, at least I do.
+ Leo vs Raph rooftop fight scene.
+The turtles teaming up with Karai and the foot clan was cool to see.
- WAY too short.
- Mikey and Donnie have hardly any screentime.
- April O Neal isn't it enough.
- Even though warrior April was kinda cool, she should just stick to the reporter friend to the turtles role.
- I hope this doesn't sound racist, but Karai's accent got on my nerves.
- Weak villains.

I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) looks to be the BEST turtle movie yet, and here are my top 10 reasons why.

10. They are changing the story up, and not recycling the old movie, which I hate that so many people want them to do.
9. The turtles voices. In the original movie, their voices were all a little annoying, they seem fine now.
8. Even though I am not a fan of the Foot Clan being like a military, I like the idea of them being a total criminal empire that controls the city and has installed fear in the city.
7. The CGI looks amazing.
6. William Fitchner.
5. Will Arnett. This guy is awesome and seeing him in anything is great, let alone a TMNT movie.
4. The visual style. Great cinematography.
3. It looks like all the turtles are gonna have moments to shine, it looks like no one will be left in the dust like TMNT 2007 and the 1990 movie.
2. The turtles personalities look to be portrayed perfectly.
1. Looks really fun and entertaining. A good summer popcorn flick.

I think this movie will without a doubt be the best TMNT movie. They seem to be doing everything right except for The Foot Clan, I miss them being ninja's. While some people have given good reasons to dislike the movie. Others are hating the whole movie just because the way the turtles look, and others are stuck in the past. A message to those people:

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

I will be bold and say you can easily tell that these guys working on this movie know nothing about TMNT outside the 80s toon, and yes even with the small blurb of the turtles beginnings..you can know where something comes from without nothing nothing about it (GOTG)....especially with Vern being a "favorite character" the guy has been in one series of the whole franchise

I agree. This movie definitely looks like it was "scripted" by cribbing Wikipedia, focusing mostly on the stuff they remembered vaguely from their childhood. The way they go out of their way to hype the importance of pizza and "cowabunga" and all that... it's like nothing in the franchise ever evolved past 1988.

They almost lost me entirely with "Heroes in a Half-Shell". I don't care that's the song lyric... that never even made the slightest bit of sense even back then! It's telling that the stuff I see as most annoying/least important to the TMNT - pizza, "Cowabunga", etc. - is being sold as "integral" to it. "Don't worry, there's pizza!" Um... yay?

EDIT: Point that meme at yourself, guy. Nobody's immature if they think those awful designs are awful. It's an opinion. No "growing up" necesary, Snarky McSnarkPants. I agree with a lot of the rest of that post, as far as what worked and didn't in the movies in general, but you lost me with the childish meme.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination

A message to those people:
http://www.elisabethhubert.com/wp-co...01/GrowUp.jpeg

so we need to grow up because we have different opinions...if thats the case you need to look in the mirror and

Originally Posted by Leo656

They almost lost me entirely with "Heroes in a Half-Shell". I don't care that's the song lyric... that never even made the slightest bit of sense even back then! It's telling that the stuff I see as most annoying/least important to the TMNT - pizza, "Cowabunga", etc. - is being sold as "integral" to it. "Don't worry, there's pizza!" Um... yay?

not to mention Mikey hasn't been a Surfer bro dude since the 90s, Pizza i can let slide since aside from 2k3 its always in TMNT in some form

this BTS really has shown me this movies true colors

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination

10. They are changing the story up, and not recycling the old movie, which I hate that so many people want them to do.

Gonna have to one up you on that though. They're still telling a story from scratch. Personally I'd have rather they kept "teenage" off the title, said "they're adults now, deal with it," and told a new story all of their own.


Not feeling it necessary for them to try to one up a franchise that's been about continuation, not 'one-upmanship,' is no cause to need to "grow up..." And until the 8th any statements of how the new movie goes is purely speculation no matter who's saying it, not even the filmmakers.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination

I think it will be.
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/x...RX4hPJpUjr.jpg

Why, you ask? Let's just look at the previous TMNT films.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)- My Score: 7.0/10 I'll give a + for good, and a - for bad.

+ I love the ninja theme in the first 30 mins or so.
+ The store fight is exciting and fun to watch.
+ The turtles act like teenagers.
+ The Foot Clan. I like the idea of them being outcasted teenagers, recruited by Shredder and living in that hideout and becoming ninja's to do crime and fight the turtles.
+April O Neal was cool to me in this one.
-Casey Jones, he feels flat and 2D to me.
-Leonardo wasn't in it enough. He's the leader, he needs to be in it more and be a more prominent leader.
-Donatello wasn't a nerd in this one. He was just kinda there. This film was my first introduction to the turtles back when I was in 2nd grade. I instantly figured out who Mikey and Raph were. Leo and Donnie, not so much.
-The cheesy ending.
-The music when they are fighting in the sewers ruins it, really stupid and cheesy.
- The stuff on the farm. I honestly didn't like any of this. It's boring to me, and the movie was on a roll of excitement, and this just brings it to a complete halt.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze- 7.5/10
+Really fun and entertaining to watch
+ The turtles personalities are finally portrayed well enough for an 88 minute movie. You can tell Leo is the leader, even if he still needed to be have that shown more, Donatello is finally shown as the brains, Mikey is still the jokester, and Raph is still the defiant one.
+ GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!
+ A fun exciting fight at the end.
+ The stakes are higher. The two big bad guys, I forget their names, could destroy all of New York. And at the end, the turtles are walking into a trap and they know it.
- Too short.
- Can get a little too cheesy.
- The donuts thing at the end is kinda cringe-worthy.
- I honestly didn't like that kid. He had his moments, but I would've liked it more if it was just the turtles.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III- 4.0/10
+ The Japanese setting is cool.
+ Has some good character development for the turtles.
- Everything else.

TMNT (2007)- 7.0/10
+Great animation.
+ The tension between Raphael and Leonardo.
+ Probably my favorite incarnation of Raphael ever. You really root for him in this movie, at least I do.
+ Leo vs Raph rooftop fight scene.
+The turtles teaming up with Karai and the foot clan was cool to see.
- WAY too short.
- Mikey and Donnie have hardly any screentime.
- April O Neal isn't it enough.
- Even though warrior April was kinda cool, she should just stick to the reporter friend to the turtles role.
- I hope this doesn't sound racist, but Karai's accent got on my nerves.
- Weak villains.

I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) looks to be the BEST turtle movie yet, and here are my top 10 reasons why.

10. They are changing the story up, and not recycling the old movie, which I hate that so many people want them to do.
9. The turtles voices. In the original movie, their voices were all a little annoying, they seem fine now.
8. Even though I am not a fan of the Foot Clan being like a military, I like the idea of them being a total criminal empire that controls the city and has installed fear in the city.
7. The CGI looks amazing.
6. William Fitchner.
5. Will Arnett. This guy is awesome and seeing him in anything is great, let alone a TMNT movie.
4. The visual style. Great cinematography.
3. It looks like all the turtles are gonna have moments to shine, it looks like no one will be left in the dust like TMNT 2007 and the 1990 movie.
2. The turtles personalities look to be portrayed perfectly.
1. Looks really fun and entertaining. A good summer popcorn flick.

I think this movie will without a doubt be the best TMNT movie. They seem to be doing everything right except for The Foot Clan, I miss them being ninja's. While some people have given good reasons to dislike the movie. Others are hating the whole movie just because the way the turtles look, and others are stuck in the past. A message to those people:
http://www.elisabethhubert.com/wp-co...01/GrowUp.jpeg

i want you to take your advice. your criteria is your own and every reimaginig is not automatically a good one. a message to you