William Fichtner (Shredder)

[Fang Wolf]

Now I am confused! Should William Fichtner play Shredder or not?
Because I’ve read that he will not play Shredder (Apparently someone else to play Oroku Saki)
*confused*

[Le Glorieux Tortue]

They are doing quick re-shoots this week to make Fichtner Shredder

[Fang Wolf]

Originally Posted by Le Glorieux Tortue

They are doing quick re-shoots this week to make Fichtner Shredder

Okay.
So he becomes Shredder (Oroku Saki), So what I have read is not true then?

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Fang Wolf

Now I am confused! Should William Fichtner play Shredder or not?
Because I’ve read that he will not play Shredder (Apparently someone else to play Oroku Saki)
*confused*

Fichtner is not Shredder. And I know who ever plays " Saki " is an unknown actor. But im sure in the after credits it will say who

[Galactus]

No one really knows for sure but here is what is known;

William Fichtner was cast in the movie and said by the studio to be playing an iconic villain, they later confirmed he was playing the Shredder. In several interviews Fichtner himself has said he plays a character called Eric Sachs who has a fascination with armor and something happens that makes him The Shredder and in this version anyone can be Shredder.

However the recent trailers showed Sachs talking to a shadowy figure vaguely resembling Oroku Saki from thr current animated series and referring to the armor as "your armor" More recently during press junkets one of the producers stated this Eric Sachs character is not the Shredder or wears the armor and that it is Oroku Saki.

Those who have seen the film say that it is never stated that the shadowy figure is Saki or is it ever made clear it's him in the armor or not.

Some fans speculate that this was always the case and the idea this Eric Sachs character was the Shredder was a lie so it's a suprise for the fans. Others feel that Sachs was supposed to be the Shredder but at they minute they bowed to fan backlash and added a scene to suggest the Shredder was Oroku Saki and Sachs is his second in command.

[Fang Wolf]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Fichtner is not Shredder. And I know who ever plays " Saki " is an unknown actor. But im sure in the after credits it will say who

Ah, okay.
Now it starts to dawn on me *Unravel the confusion*

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Le Glorieux Tortue

They are doing quick re-shoots this week to make Fichtner Shredder

Originally Posted by Fang Wolf

Okay.
So he becomes Shredder (Oroku Saki), So what I have read is not true then?

Initially Fichtner was cast as the Shredder. The actor confirmed it and it was widely reported. There's an argument to be made that this was a red herring, but many promotional photos showed him with the Shredder armour and even wearing a spiked gauntlet. In response, there was some controversy over "white-washing" the role from a Japanese man to a white American.

Somewhat recently they did reshoots, and shortly after it was officially stated that Fichtner wasn't playing the Shredder after all. The theory there is that they quickly shot scenes of an unnamed Japanese man during reshoots and then reworked the movie so that he is the Shredder and not Fichtner.

AFAIK, this hasn't been confirmed either way, though.

[Puddinpop]

Eastman said about a year ago.. " do not believe what you hear about the Shredder, you are in for a pleasant surprise " so pretty sure it was a stunt to get people talking, and it worked beautifully as TMNT was the talk of the web.

The reshoots were for Fox's stunt scenes bc she was Pregnant. I think some people are giving themselves a little to much credit lol

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

The reshoots were for Fox's stunt scenes bc she was Pregnant. I think some people are giving themselves a little to much credit lol

as much as i want to believe this i dont buy it, someone like fox wouldnt be doing her own stunt scenes..and if she was pregnant would have a body double to stand in

[Werecat]

I think what happened was a journalist exaggerated and misinterpreted the role just like they did with the origin.

They said the turtles would be alien but little did they know the origins of TMNT is from an alien ooze. Now journalists have been known to omit certain sentences which can mess up the context of the conversation. A lot of the fans over reacted to misinformation without confirming the truth of it. So a buncha peeps just got their panties in a bunch.

Edit: some fans need to get over themselves. No film company would waste millions on re shoots just because they complained on the internet.

[CyberCubed]

People who saw the movie confirmed Shredder is an Asian man. Case closed.

[Sanjuro]

It's possible he was Jamaican. I couldn't be quite certain, you racists.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Sanjuro

It's possible he was Jamaican. I couldn't be quite certain, you racists.

As long as he had smaller squinty eyes, and made grunts while fighting, he is Asian. Hopefully in the sequel they refer to him by name.

And I am aware you were being sarcastic.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Werecat

I think what happened was a journalist exaggerated and misinterpreted the role just like they did with the origin.

They said the turtles would be alien but little did they know the origins of TMNT is from an alien ooze. Now journalists have been known to omit certain sentences which can mess up the context of the conversation. A lot of the fans over reacted to misinformation without confirming the truth of it. So a buncha peeps just got their panties in a bunch.

The alien origin was a key twist in an early draft of the script and Bay himself confirmed that the script was the real deal. (Though he also claimed it was before he joined the project, even though the script was dated 2012 and Bay signed on in 2010, so...)

Fichtner himself said he was playing the Shredder. His exact words were "I play Shredder". That's a direct quote. It was widely reported for months, and nobody in the production disputed it until very recently.

Clearly all of this has been changed by now, but all of it was the plan at certain points. Fichtner's interview was from June 2013, and the movie entered production in April of that year, so the movie was well into production when he made that statement. So either it was a red herring or it's something that was changed fairly recently. (And if was a red herring to protect a "surprise", I find it odd that the director just casually dropped that Fichtner wasn't Shredder after all in a random interview a month or so back.)

[Werecat]

Originally Posted by Bry

The alien origin was a key twist in an early draft of the script and Bay himself confirmed that the script was the real deal. (Though he also claimed it was before he joined the project, even though the script was dated 2012 and Bay signed on in 2010, so...)

Fichtner himself said he was playing the Shredder. His exact words were "I play Shredder". That's a direct quote. It was widely reported for months, and nobody in the production disputed it until very recently.

Clearly all of this has been changed by now, but all of it was the plan at certain points. Fichtner's interview was from June 2013, and the movie entered production in April of that year, so the movie was well into production when he made that statement. So either it was a red herring or it's something that was changed fairly recently. (And if was a red herring to protect a "surprise", I find it odd that the director just casually dropped that Fichtner wasn't Shredder after all in a random interview a month or so back.)

Darn it, I keep forgetting that part.

It is still hard to believe journalism now a days though. My relatives had their words twisted in interviews. Some journalists are just vile.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

As long as he had smaller squinty eyes, and made grunts while fighting, he is Asian.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Xav

Well... that wasn't a very sensible way of describing the eye sockets of your average Asian person, but I don't think he's actually being racist. Don't understand how grunting makes someone an Asian, though. Last time I checked, any human, regardless of his background, can grunt while he fights.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by Bry

The alien origin was a key twist in an early draft of the script and Bay himself confirmed that the script was the real deal. (Though he also claimed it was before he joined the project, even though the script was dated 2012 and Bay signed on in 2010, so...)

Fichtner himself said he was playing the Shredder. His exact words were "I play Shredder". That's a direct quote. It was widely reported for months, and nobody in the production disputed it until very recently.

Clearly all of this has been changed by now, but all of it was the plan at certain points. Fichtner's interview was from June 2013, and the movie entered production in April of that year, so the movie was well into production when he made that statement. So either it was a red herring or it's something that was changed fairly recently. (And if was a red herring to protect a "surprise", I find it odd that the director just casually dropped that Fichtner wasn't Shredder after all in a random interview a month or so back.)

So do I. Which is why I think it was a recent change.

[Tazi]

So... did they possibly changed this due to negative backlash?

Obviously, noone could answer that, but still, ever happened something like this to any movie before?

[LincolnHawk]

Originally Posted by Fang Wolf

Okay.
So he becomes Shredder (Oroku Saki), So what I have read is not true then?

you can't be that gullible can you