What if Casey Jones is black in the sequel?

*CyberCubed* · 08-10-2014, 08:47 PM

Given this movie almost changed Shredder to a white man, and Marvel movies like Avengers changing Nick Fury to Samuel L Jackson, or the Human Torch from the new rebooted Fantastic Four turned into black instead of his white self that he's been for 70 years...its possible.

What if Casey Jones was cast as a black actor? Is the world ready for a black Casey Jones?

Honestly Casey being black would fit his character, and while I am not a fan of race changes to established characters, this wouldn't bother me nearly as much as Shredder being white, (obviously the Foot are from Japan, Shredder needs to be Asian and has an Asian name)

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 08-10-2014, 08:49 PM

Would it be a good actor (for example, I enjoy Michael B. Jordan who was in Chronicle, and I enjoyed Anthony Mackie in Captain America: The Winter Soldier)? Or would it be some bad actor shoe-horned like the RZA or 50 Cent or such...

If it was a good actor, then yeah I'd be fine.

*Warhorse* · 08-10-2014, 08:50 PM

Wouldn't bother me none. I once had a thought where he was a black man, and he had a daughter that was about 10, and she would be Angel, played by a black girl. TMNT seems to miss the boat when it comes to minorities sometimes.

*CyberCubed* · 08-10-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

. TMNT seems to miss the boat when it comes to minorities sometimes.

I don't see where you get that since Baxter is black in every incarnation but one, and Bebop is black.

*Powder* · 08-10-2014, 08:54 PM

As long as race isn't relevant to the character, I'm open to any changes.

*CyberCubed* · 08-10-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

As long as race isn't relevant to the character, I'm open to any changes.

I'm kinda surprised Casey being black hasn't been thought of before. It actually fits his character surprisingly well.

Raphies · 08-10-2014, 08:56 PM

I wouldn't care at all, as long as his personality would be intact.

*NinjaPug* · 08-10-2014, 08:56 PM

Just give me a Casey Jones character that is well written that is portrayed by a good actor. I don't care about his skin color at all.

*sdp* · 08-10-2014, 08:57 PM

As a kid growing up in the early 90s when every race had to be accounted for like in the BK Kids club/Captain Planet etc. I've always liked race variety but I hate it when they change the race of established characters; even when it works really well like Kingpin in Daredevil or Perry in MoS, it still bothers me that they changed the race. I'm ok when they make new characters of different race though like Jon Stewart being GL since it's a new GL and not Hal Jordan.

I guess Casey Jones being black would be ok for the character and it could work, but it would still bother me. But I'd prefer a new black vigilante taking Casey jone's role instead of a race change. This movie already messed up Thompson by making him a woman and black. I think I'd actually be more ok with April being black counting in the original comics she was likely meant to be black.

*Powder* · 08-10-2014, 08:58 PM

More than anything I think the turtles should be more racially diverse. NYC is a total melting pot, it'd be dope to have like a puerto rican Mikey, black Raph, asian Leo, & white Donnie. At least I think so. Ya know, with respect to voice actors & whatnot.

*sdp* · 08-10-2014, 09:00 PM

That's a terrible idea that doesn't even make sense, they are turtles, not humans.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 08-10-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

That's a terrible idea that doesn't even make sense, they are turtles, not humans.

Right, they are turtles...not humans. That means they can sound like anybody since they have No Actual/Exact Race. So why would they have the voice of a 'white/Caucasian' when, like you said, they are Turtles...they can sound like anybody.

You could easily ask 'why does Mikey sound more Surfer-like in some incarnations, f he lives in New York'

Purse Grabbin Puke · 08-10-2014, 09:08 PM

I already stated Casey could be black in the sequel in one of the other Casey Jones threads.

Who cares about race anymore. Only racists care. I was hoping April was Zoe Saldana when the movie was announced.

I don't know if these guys who are in Marvel movies are allowed to cross over into other super hero movies. Anthony Mackie is a good choice, but I doubt he can be Falcon and Casey.

I think Common could pull it off. Mos Def, Michael K. Williams, but he's too old. They should get a no name for Casey.

I just have this sickening feeling we're going to get Brian Austin Green...

*Electric* · 08-10-2014, 09:09 PM

i wouldnt mind, as long as casey is well written. i like very few versions of him, so if black casey could be enjoyable sure.

my only vote against it is people bitching about it. when people thought shredder was white there was a rampage. if black casey was released, i could see the same thing happening

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 08-10-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

my only vote against it is people bitching about it. when people thought shredder was white there was a rampage. if black casey was released, i could see the same thing happening

Because if they're going to just put a white American Ninja guy in there...it should only be this guy:

*Slade* · 08-10-2014, 09:15 PM

I can see this thread spiraling out of control...

My thoughts on this. I don't really care all that much about Casey. Only one I have liked is from the first movie. So whatever. But, I don't think a characters race should be changed.

*IndigoErth* · 08-10-2014, 09:15 PM

Best audition should get the gig. Just please... no need for screwing with names for stupid reasons.

Although a name like Casey could also be a girl... wouldn't that be something. lol

*Cure* · 08-10-2014, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

More than anything I think the turtles should be more racially diverse. NYC is a total melting pot, it'd be dope to have like a puerto rican Mikey, black Raph, asian Leo, & white Donnie. At least I think so. Ya know, with respect to voice actors & whatnot.

But there's no way of portraying those races in turtles without seeming racist to the oversensitive types. They'd all have to have stereotypical accents and walk around with flags on their shells or some sh*t. And what would it bring it to their characters besides their voices, anyway?

I'm not saying it can't work, but it's a fine line, I think.

*chrisdude* · 08-10-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm kinda surprised Casey being black hasn't been thought of before. It actually fits his character surprisingly well.

*snake* · 08-10-2014, 09:22 PM

That'd be cool as long as he can pull off a good Casey.

08-10-2014, 08:47 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,694	What if Casey Jones is black in the sequel? Given this movie almost changed Shredder to a white man, and Marvel movies like Avengers changing Nick Fury to Samuel L Jackson, or the Human Torch from the new rebooted Fantastic Four turned into black instead of his white self that he's been for 70 years...its possible. What if Casey Jones was cast as a black actor? Is the world ready for a black Casey Jones? Honestly Casey being black would fit his character, and while I am not a fan of race changes to established characters, this wouldn't bother me nearly as much as Shredder being white, (obviously the Foot are from Japan, Shredder needs to be Asian and has an Asian name)

08-10-2014, 08:56 PM	#7
Raphies Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 32	I wouldn't care at all, as long as his personality would be intact. __________________

08-10-2014, 08:57 PM	#9
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,113	As a kid growing up in the early 90s when every race had to be accounted for like in the BK Kids club/Captain Planet etc. I've always liked race variety but I hate it when they change the race of established characters; even when it works really well like Kingpin in Daredevil or Perry in MoS, it still bothers me that they changed the race. I'm ok when they make new characters of different race though like Jon Stewart being GL since it's a new GL and not Hal Jordan. I guess Casey Jones being black would be ok for the character and it could work, but it would still bother me. But I'd prefer a new black vigilante taking Casey jone's role instead of a race change. This movie already messed up Thompson by making him a woman and black. I think I'd actually be more ok with April being black counting in the original comics she was likely meant to be black. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

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08-10-2014, 09:08 PM	#13
Purse Grabbin Puke Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: 'merica Posts: 731	I already stated Casey could be black in the sequel in one of the other Casey Jones threads. Who cares about race anymore. Only racists care. I was hoping April was Zoe Saldana when the movie was announced. I don't know if these guys who are in Marvel movies are allowed to cross over into other super hero movies. Anthony Mackie is a good choice, but I doubt he can be Falcon and Casey. I think Common could pull it off. Mos Def, Michael K. Williams, but he's too old. They should get a no name for Casey. I just have this sickening feeling we're going to get Brian Austin Green... __________________ Oh you don't like my opinion? ---->

08-10-2014, 08:49 PM	#2
Ramboraph4life aka Matt Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Liberty, Iowa Posts: 1,233	Would it be a good actor (for example, I enjoy Michael B. Jordan who was in Chronicle, and I enjoyed Anthony Mackie in Captain America: The Winter Soldier)? Or would it be some bad actor shoe-horned like the RZA or 50 Cent or such... If it was a good actor, then yeah I'd be fine.

08-10-2014, 08:50 PM	#3
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Wouldn't bother me none. I once had a thought where he was a black man, and he had a daughter that was about 10, and she would be Angel, played by a black girl. TMNT seems to miss the boat when it comes to minorities sometimes.

08-10-2014, 08:54 PM	#5
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	As long as race isn't relevant to the character, I'm open to any changes.

08-10-2014, 08:56 PM	#8
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Just give me a Casey Jones character that is well written that is portrayed by a good actor. I don't care about his skin color at all.

08-10-2014, 08:58 PM	#10
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	More than anything I think the turtles should be more racially diverse. NYC is a total melting pot, it'd be dope to have like a puerto rican Mikey, black Raph, asian Leo, & white Donnie. At least I think so. Ya know, with respect to voice actors & whatnot.

08-10-2014, 09:09 PM	#14
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	i wouldnt mind, as long as casey is well written. i like very few versions of him, so if black casey could be enjoyable sure. my only vote against it is people bitching about it. when people thought shredder was white there was a rampage. if black casey was released, i could see the same thing happening __________________

08-10-2014, 09:15 PM	#16
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	I can see this thread spiraling out of control... My thoughts on this. I don't really care all that much about Casey. Only one I have liked is from the first movie. So whatever. But, I don't think a characters race should be changed. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

08-10-2014, 09:15 PM	#17
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,285	Best audition should get the gig. Just please... no need for screwing with names for stupid reasons. Although a name like Casey could also be a girl... wouldn't that be something. lol

08-10-2014, 09:22 PM	#20
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	That'd be cool as long as he can pull off a good Casey.