Tohoru Masamune as Shredder: Thoughts?

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 08-14-2014, 04:54 PM

Now I know that many people are unhappy with how the whole thing turned out with the lack of Shredder being developed, but I really don't like how many people just want Eric Sachs to become shredder in the sequel. I want to cast Eric Aside, and keep Torhu's Nick-like scarred shredder around. He could easily be devloped in the sequel, and I really want to see more of him.

They went through all the trouble of last minute switching with Sachs to give us Saki, do you really want to switch it back? I wanna see your opinions on Torhu's Shredder, and the character's potential future.

*CyberCubed* · 08-14-2014, 04:58 PM

We saw him for like two scenes. The rest was a CG Shredder you didn't even see the actor for.

*TigerClaw* · 08-14-2014, 05:03 PM

What they could've done is, Show a scene of Oroku Saki putting on the suit, Maybe they can do that for the sequel.

*IndigoErth* · 08-14-2014, 05:05 PM

If they'll give him more of a role/screen time now that he's in, and maybe just make Sachs his lacky, go for it.

Only reason I figured they could potentially place Sachs as the 'new' one would be if they decided the first movie killed the original Shredder. Wouldn't put it past them to do that and jump back to their original idea...

*Coola Yagami* · 08-14-2014, 05:55 PM

He was awesome. And he reminded me of the Nick Shredder. Too bad it was only him in 2 scenes. The rest were some random CGI robot.

*Bry* · 08-14-2014, 06:09 PM

There's almost nothing to judge him on, really. He made a few brief appearances in the shadows and then was just a voice behind the CGI. How many actual lines did he even have? Like 12?

He wasn't a character, he was a plot device. Masamune seemed okay, but it's almost impossible to have an opinion on him or the character one way or another considering how thin it all was.

thebrownranger · 08-14-2014, 06:37 PM

Oroku Saki was barely in this movie, so I'll judge him based on what I've seen so far. Tohoru Masamune was a pretty lame Oroku Saki from what I've seen. I only liked when he spoke Japanese, which was only a few lines. Everything else was just whatever. I personally didn't like his look because he resembled the Nick Shredder which I'm not a fan of. I just got this cheesy sorta vibe from him (and pretty much the whole film) while hearing his voice when he was talking to Karai and when he was in the costume.

*Raven* · 08-14-2014, 07:58 PM

There wasn't much to judge off of, and what was there was barely put together. The actor was great for what he had to work with, but I'm still at a loss why the foot was involved other then to simply steel stuff for sachs...why was Saki in this movie?

Midnight Mutant · 08-14-2014, 11:19 PM

He seemed ok in the couple of scenes we got of him...but his voice did NOT fit the Shredder armor look. At all. It was very misplacing.

The Vernon · 08-14-2014, 11:28 PM

This is news to me: "many people just want Eric Sachs to become shredder" - the white guy right? Who a whole of people complained about in the beginning before this movie was even played out. You on crack, hell, maybe maybe more than that.

I liked Torhu's Shredder. He's awesome. He's bald. He's sexy. He's what the audience wants.

strawberryfields · 08-14-2014, 11:32 PM

He was great but there wasn't enough of him. The voice really stood out

Warboss74 · 08-14-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Vernon

This is news to me: "many people just want Eric Sachs to become shredder" - the white guy right? Who a whole of people complained about in the beginning before this movie was even played out. You on crack, hell, maybe maybe more than that.

I liked Torhu's Shredder. He's awesome. He's bald. He's sexy. He's what the audience wants.

You really don't see why people would have Sacks be the Shredder instead of what we got? It was a last minute change that left the turtle's iconibig bad an empty shell. It's worse than Eric Sacks as the Shredder. The smart decision would have been to write him as Oroku Saki originally.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-14-2014, 11:53 PM

Yep. Shoulda had that guy from the start and fire Fichtner's lame ass outta there. Plus we needed scenes of Tohoru suiting up, or fighting a bit without his helmet on. We needed to see HIM fight the Turtles a little. Not just that CGI robot mess.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 08-14-2014, 11:55 PM

The actor was fine, but the character was terribly underused. I mean, ya, it's obvious that the true Shredder was shoved into the movie at the last second to avoid fan backlash, but it was all done so haphazardly that Shredder came off as more of a lackey to Sacks rather than the other way around.

I'm still hopeful that, if Shredder returns in the sequel, he'll be used a lot better now that there's no need to rewrite him and shoot new scenes at the last minute. There's nothing wrong with the actor, though. He did as well as anyone probably could be given with what he had to work with.

*samxsteal* · 08-14-2014, 11:59 PM

This Guy Rocks I really hope they bring him back in, for the sequel. He was a straight up BA during his first scene. His voice is perfect it was awesome he definitely deserved more screen time.

Artist · 08-15-2014, 01:47 AM

Give him some back story and we got ourselves a great Saki/Shredder.

*neatoman* · 08-15-2014, 02:41 AM

He had a booming voice, that was nice right?

Seriously, I don't wanna judge the guy at all. Him being cast as the Shredder was most likely for reshoots to make it so that Sacks was not the Shredder, so I really feel I have to cut the guy some slack.

I will say this though, for as shoehorned in as it probably was I liked his little training scene. We can all hope he's better in the sequels, he seems to be a pretty unknown actor and if he's actually good I really hope he gets a breakout role and this might just be it.

08-14-2014, 04:54 PM	#1
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Tohoru Masamune as Shredder: Thoughts? Now I know that many people are unhappy with how the whole thing turned out with the lack of Shredder being developed, but I really don't like how many people just want Eric Sachs to become shredder in the sequel. I want to cast Eric Aside, and keep Torhu's Nick-like scarred shredder around. He could easily be devloped in the sequel, and I really want to see more of him. They went through all the trouble of last minute switching with Sachs to give us Saki, do you really want to switch it back? I wanna see your opinions on Torhu's Shredder, and the character's potential future. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

08-14-2014, 05:03 PM	#3
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,165	What they could've done is, Show a scene of Oroku Saki putting on the suit, Maybe they can do that for the sequel. __________________ Follow me on my Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@tygerclaw305

08-14-2014, 05:55 PM	#5
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,700	He was awesome. And he reminded me of the Nick Shredder. Too bad it was only him in 2 scenes. The rest were some random CGI robot. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-14-2014, 06:09 PM	#6
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	There's almost nothing to judge him on, really. He made a few brief appearances in the shadows and then was just a voice behind the CGI. How many actual lines did he even have? Like 12? He wasn't a character, he was a plot device. Masamune seemed okay, but it's almost impossible to have an opinion on him or the character one way or another considering how thin it all was. __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon

08-14-2014, 06:37 PM	#7
thebrownranger Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NY Posts: 782	Oroku Saki was barely in this movie, so I'll judge him based on what I've seen so far. Tohoru Masamune was a pretty lame Oroku Saki from what I've seen. I only liked when he spoke Japanese, which was only a few lines. Everything else was just whatever. I personally didn't like his look because he resembled the Nick Shredder which I'm not a fan of. I just got this cheesy sorta vibe from him (and pretty much the whole film) while hearing his voice when he was talking to Karai and when he was in the costume. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/allenjac0b/ WANTED: A.C. Farley Leonardo Bust (bronze & unpainted) Playmates TMNT statues- Donatello, Michelangelo

08-14-2014, 04:58 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,835	We saw him for like two scenes. The rest was a CG Shredder you didn't even see the actor for.

08-14-2014, 05:05 PM	#4
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	If they'll give him more of a role/screen time now that he's in, and maybe just make Sachs his lacky, go for it. Only reason I figured they could potentially place Sachs as the 'new' one would be if they decided the first movie killed the original Shredder. Wouldn't put it past them to do that and jump back to their original idea...

08-14-2014, 07:58 PM	#8
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	There wasn't much to judge off of, and what was there was barely put together. The actor was great for what he had to work with, but I'm still at a loss why the foot was involved other then to simply steel stuff for sachs...why was Saki in this movie? __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

08-14-2014, 11:19 PM	#9
Midnight Mutant Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 249	He seemed ok in the couple of scenes we got of him...but his voice did NOT fit the Shredder armor look. At all. It was very misplacing. __________________

08-14-2014, 11:28 PM	#10
The Vernon Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 32	This is news to me: "many people just want Eric Sachs to become shredder" - the white guy right? Who a whole of people complained about in the beginning before this movie was even played out. You on crack, hell, maybe maybe more than that. I liked Torhu's Shredder. He's awesome. He's bald. He's sexy. He's what the audience wants.

08-14-2014, 11:32 PM	#11
strawberryfields Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 370	He was great but there wasn't enough of him. The voice really stood out

08-14-2014, 11:53 PM	#13
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,700	Yep. Shoulda had that guy from the start and fire Fichtner's lame ass outta there. Plus we needed scenes of Tohoru suiting up, or fighting a bit without his helmet on. We needed to see HIM fight the Turtles a little. Not just that CGI robot mess. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-14-2014, 11:55 PM	#14
Tuxedo Moroboshi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Battle Nexus Posts: 1,127	The actor was fine, but the character was terribly underused. I mean, ya, it's obvious that the true Shredder was shoved into the movie at the last second to avoid fan backlash, but it was all done so haphazardly that Shredder came off as more of a lackey to Sacks rather than the other way around. I'm still hopeful that, if Shredder returns in the sequel, he'll be used a lot better now that there's no need to rewrite him and shoot new scenes at the last minute. There's nothing wrong with the actor, though. He did as well as anyone probably could be given with what he had to work with. __________________ Hey, be sure to check out my art!

08-15-2014, 01:47 AM	#16
Artist Thug Join Date: May 2014 Location: NM Burque Posts: 93	Give him some back story and we got ourselves a great Saki/Shredder.

08-15-2014, 02:41 AM	#17
neatoman Overlord Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Stockholm Posts: 11,068	He had a booming voice, that was nice right? Seriously, I don't wanna judge the guy at all. Him being cast as the Shredder was most likely for reshoots to make it so that Sacks was not the Shredder, so I really feel I have to cut the guy some slack. I will say this though, for as shoehorned in as it probably was I liked his little training scene. We can all hope he's better in the sequels, he seems to be a pretty unknown actor and if he's actually good I really hope he gets a breakout role and this might just be it.