Somethin' I was thinkin' about doin'..

*Dane E5R* · 08-24-2003, 07:03 PM

I realize that a lot of people are disappointed in the quality of Jim Lawson's art. Well, a lot of people have told me that my style of art greatly resembles Eastman and Laird's style from the early 80's. If you guys like, I'd be willing to re-draw a page or more from TMNT Vol. 4, depending on the level of my own satisfactory, and the response I get from it here. What I want is from you all is for you guys to decide on a page that you'd like me to draw. The page that gets requested the most will be re-drawn.

Any takers?

Here are a couple samples of my work, which are already dated.
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/raphelite5/rncouch.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/raph...AR_TURTLE1.jpg

~~Leo656~~ · 08-24-2003, 07:06 PM

Wow, you're good dude! I like your portrayal of Ninjara. Anything you wanna draw is fine by me.

~~Trunks~~ · 08-24-2003, 07:15 PM

thats awsome draw as much of anything tmnt as you want

~~Leo656~~ · 08-24-2003, 07:31 PM

Makes me wish I had talent.

Ninjatron · 08-24-2003, 07:56 PM

This is probably not going to be a popular opinion.

If you're going to do that, I don't think you should share it publically. It just doesn't seem kosher to me, and I don't think I should have to say why.

But, by all means, do it for yourself as drawing practice.

Sayonara.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 08-24-2003, 08:13 PM

You do draw quite well.

*Raven* · 08-24-2003, 08:31 PM

those are great!

**Karpo_007** · 08-24-2003, 10:32 PM

It seems few have quite a few peope here in TD that can draw.

*Dr. Doom* · 08-24-2003, 10:41 PM

LeSean for example

*Dane E5R* · 08-24-2003, 10:57 PM

*damnhooligan* · 08-25-2003, 02:23 AM

*woohoo* LeSean!

You should give it a shot, Elite5Raph. It's always interesting to compare works, and note the distinct differences between artists. I'd honestly just pick a page at random, for curiousity's sake.

tormentedvagrant · 08-25-2003, 06:20 AM

awsome art. Id like to sugest a page from issue 4, don't have a number yet, but it the one with 6 turtles (whom are really robo simulations) on it.

*Jephael* · 08-25-2003, 06:39 AM

Hey I remember you showing us those pics in the chat room awhile back, Raph. Glad to see you're sharing it with the forum!

The Master · 08-25-2003, 09:15 AM

Actually, man, if you're willing to do redraws of whole pages or more from issues that already exist, I'd recommend that you make your own original comic.

Your art is obviously awesome, and a fan run comic would be pretty cool.

Dinny · 08-25-2003, 09:20 AM

it could work i mean u r definately an excellent drawer

*JameO* · 08-25-2003, 10:30 AM

Nice work EliteRaph. I would like to see some more of your work. Very nice. And yes the TD does have a lot of artists.

tormentedvagrant · 08-25-2003, 01:24 PM

I agree with the notion of a fan comic. You have impressive art skills and it would be nice to see as well.

**HorseTechie** · 08-25-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjatron

This is probably not going to be a popular opinion.

If you're going to do that, I don't think you should share it publically. It just doesn't seem kosher to me, and I don't think I should have to say why.

But, by all means, do it for yourself as drawing practice.

Totally agree with this line of thought. Not wise to post it publically here, since it'll pretty much consitute as being a direct copy off professional art. Just to keep this place from getting into any more hot water.

Other than that, do whatever floats your boat. Though... if I were you, I prolly would put my efforts into a more original TMNT fan-comic, than duplicate someone's elses.

*Dane E5R* · 08-25-2003, 09:58 PM

Could I get into trouble for this? As far as I knew, it was okay to do things of this sort so long as I wasn't making a profit.

*damnhooligan* · 08-26-2003, 01:25 AM

It would qualify as a "derivative work", which is an infringement and violation of the existing copywrite.

Then again fan fiction and as far as I'm aware, most fan art qualifies as derivative works as well.

But then again, it seems that Mirage Studios tolerates, if not encourages fan art (Note: The Art Contest on ninjaturtles.com)

You'll likely not get into legal issues, though this may be considered a matter of taste to some. Copying an artist's work to the tee with intentions to publish it isn't necessarily tasteful.

I'd personally love to see you draw a whole fan NEW comic like Turtle Turncoat by Tony Day, ( http://www.btinternet.com/~general_zod/turtles.web ) You have the talent

08-24-2003, 07:03 PM	#1
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	Somethin' I was thinkin' about doin'.. I realize that a lot of people are disappointed in the quality of Jim Lawson's art. Well, a lot of people have told me that my style of art greatly resembles Eastman and Laird's style from the early 80's. If you guys like, I'd be willing to re-draw a page or more from TMNT Vol. 4, depending on the level of my own satisfactory, and the response I get from it here. What I want is from you all is for you guys to decide on a page that you'd like me to draw. The page that gets requested the most will be re-drawn. Any takers? Here are a couple samples of my work, which are already dated. http://www.angelfire.com/comics/raphelite5/rncouch.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/comics/raph...AR_TURTLE1.jpg __________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

08-24-2003, 07:56 PM	#5
Ninjatron Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 313	This is probably not going to be a popular opinion. If you're going to do that, I don't think you should share it publically. It just doesn't seem kosher to me, and I don't think I should have to say why. But, by all means, do it for yourself as drawing practice. Sayonara. __________________

08-24-2003, 08:13 PM	#6
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	You do draw quite well. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

08-24-2003, 08:31 PM	#7
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	those are great! __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

08-24-2003, 10:41 PM	#9
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	LeSean for example __________________ I love you, Pickle.

08-24-2003, 07:06 PM	#2
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Wow, you're good dude! I like your portrayal of Ninjara. Anything you wanna draw is fine by me.

08-24-2003, 07:15 PM	#3
~~Trunks~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere in time Posts: 198	thats awsome draw as much of anything tmnt as you want

08-24-2003, 07:31 PM	#4
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Makes me wish I had talent.

08-24-2003, 10:32 PM	#8
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	It seems few have quite a few peope here in TD that can draw.

08-24-2003, 10:57 PM	#10
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	__________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

08-25-2003, 02:23 AM	#11
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	woohoo LeSean! You should give it a shot, Elite5Raph. It's always interesting to compare works, and note the distinct differences between artists. I'd honestly just pick a page at random, for curiousity's sake. __________________

08-25-2003, 06:20 AM	#12
tormentedvagrant Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: April's Apartment Posts: 462	awsome art. Id like to sugest a page from issue 4, don't have a number yet, but it the one with 6 turtles (whom are really robo simulations) on it. __________________ "I like to eat things I can pick out their bones with my teeth, not pick my teeth with their bones."--Leatherhead(RPG)

08-25-2003, 06:39 AM	#13
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Hey I remember you showing us those pics in the chat room awhile back, Raph. Glad to see you're sharing it with the forum! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

08-25-2003, 09:15 AM	#14
The Master Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here. Posts: 43	Actually, man, if you're willing to do redraws of whole pages or more from issues that already exist, I'd recommend that you make your own original comic. Your art is obviously awesome, and a fan run comic would be pretty cool.

08-25-2003, 09:20 AM	#15
Dinny Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 774	it could work i mean u r definately an excellent drawer

08-25-2003, 10:30 AM	#16
JameO Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,753	Nice work EliteRaph. I would like to see some more of your work. Very nice. And yes the TD does have a lot of artists. __________________ "Lie, Cheat & Steal, Atleast I'm Honest"

08-25-2003, 01:24 PM	#17
tormentedvagrant Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: April's Apartment Posts: 462	I agree with the notion of a fan comic. You have impressive art skills and it would be nice to see as well. __________________ "I like to eat things I can pick out their bones with my teeth, not pick my teeth with their bones."--Leatherhead(RPG)

08-25-2003, 09:58 PM	#19
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	Could I get into trouble for this? As far as I knew, it was okay to do things of this sort so long as I wasn't making a profit. __________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

08-26-2003, 01:25 AM	#20
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	It would qualify as a "derivative work", which is an infringement and violation of the existing copywrite. Then again fan fiction and as far as I'm aware, most fan art qualifies as derivative works as well. But then again, it seems that Mirage Studios tolerates, if not encourages fan art (Note: The Art Contest on ninjaturtles.com) You'll likely not get into legal issues, though this may be considered a matter of taste to some. Copying an artist's work to the tee with intentions to publish it isn't necessarily tasteful. I'd personally love to see you draw a whole fan NEW comic like Turtle Turncoat by Tony Day, ( http://www.btinternet.com/~general_zod/turtles.web ) You have the talent __________________