Crazy theories

*neatoman* · 03-07-2015, 11:34 AM

So let's a a crazy theory thread, theories that we know probably won't turn out to be the case but still makes sense to us.

So I have this crazy theory about April's parents.

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*victory_angel* · 03-07-2015, 12:55 PM

Interesting theory. We do know her mother was experimented on by the kraang and it's possible April's dad may not even biologically be her father. For example, April's mothers Surname is O'Neil and that is April's surname as well, but we sort of assume that Kirby's surname is O'Neil as well.

O'Neil isn't uncommon so its plausible that he does have the same last name of his wife. Other possibilities are that Kirby decided to take his wifes last name rather then his own.
however it is possible that Kirby isn't April's father.
We know April has Kraang DNA, so it could it be possible that April was conceived into being by the Kraang themselves. And Kirby is just a guy that April's mother knew and he just posing as April's father in an effort of protecting her from the Kraang so she believed she was just a normal girl.

As Kirby is a psychologist he would have taken some classes in medical practice so we would know how to fake proof of April getting all blood tests, and things of that nature.

~~Mew~~ · 03-07-2015, 12:58 PM

They're ALIENS not MUTANTS- Michael Bay

Tarris Vaal · 03-07-2015, 01:25 PM

For that to work, April's aunt would also have to be an actor (and any other extended family that aren't mentioned). Though possible, it seems a lot of extra work for the Kraang (and Kirby seems particularly fearful of them to be potentially working for them).

Its more likely to have been genetic engineering during pregnancy or immediately prior (Kraang IVF?)

That said, if we ramp up the crazy

, why not presume that they are actors, but not working for the Kraang. They actually work for Bishop and the EPF. Bishop was working alongside the Kraang with an eye to eventually betraying them - but giving the Kraang a chance to learn of the EPF's capability (which may explain their relatively easy defeat at the hands of the Kraang later during Invasion). Bishop was hoping to gain access to human based psychic abilities and saw an alliance with the Kraang as a potential means to an end.

Kirby is fearful of the Kraang because he is aware of what they are and their knowledge of his connection to Bishop (its fair to presume any previous alliance would have gone sour - perhaps explaining why April's mother is missing).

April's aunt is a replacement secondary EPF agent to provide support to Kirby, made out as April's aunt because April was potentially old enough to remember her 'mother's' face.

Come the present day and Bishop is ready to collect.

*neatoman* · 03-07-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

For that to work, April's aunt would also have to be an actor

Oh yeah, the unseen character who was only mentioned once.

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Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

For that to work, April's aunt would also have to be an actor (and any other extended family that aren't mentioned). Though possible, it seems a lot of extra work for the Kraang (and Kirby seems particularly fearful of them to be potentially working for them).

Its more likely to have been genetic engineering during pregnancy or immediately prior (Kraang IVF?)

That said, if we ramp up the crazy

, why not presume that they are actors, but not working for the Kraang. They actually work for Bishop and the EPF. Bishop was working alongside the Kraang with an eye to eventually betraying them - but giving the Kraang a chance to learn of the EPF's capability (which may explain their relatively easy defeat at the hands of the Kraang later during Invasion). Bishop was hoping to gain access to human based psychic abilities and saw an alliance with the Kraang as a potential means to an end.

Kirby is fearful of the Kraang because he is aware of what they are and their knowledge of his connection to Bishop (its fair to presume any previous alliance would have gone sour - perhaps explaining why April's mother is missing).

April's aunt is a replacement secondary EPF agent to provide support to Kirby, made out as April's aunt because April was potentially old enough to remember her 'mother's' face.

Come the present day and Bishop is ready to collect.

Bishop being connected to all this? sure, that works.

*miru* · 03-08-2015, 02:45 PM

* Ninjara cut off TigerClaw's tail.
* Shredder has a small collection of early, failed mutants.
* Kirby is working for the Kraang, and has been the whole time.
* Many of the excess mutants died in the Invasion.

*neatoman* · 03-08-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by miru

* Kirby is working for the Kraang, and has been the whole time.

That would explain a lot, such as why he refused to escape from them early in season 1 for no good reason, oh yeah, that happened.

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Originally Posted by miru

* Many of the excess mutants died in the Invasion.

Well I guess any conclusion to what happened to them would be nice, even a bad one like that.

Tarris Vaal · 03-08-2015, 02:52 PM

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* Ninjara cut off TigerClaw's tail.

That sounds like a great way of introducing her into the show

*IndigoErth* · 03-08-2015, 04:19 PM

Karai captured by Shredder > loses the rest of her mind > used by Shredder > snake myth that snakes can hypnotize their pray > Raph "brainwashed" via use of Karai > Dark Raph

MaximeLoonatic · 03-08-2015, 05:04 PM

*Kirby and her wife has got away from the Kraang eyes for a while until they were found by another alien race who battle them for milleniums: The Utroms
*Spike got ill and sick for a very long time before he found and created the Mutanimals. That explains the decolorated of his jaw.
*The Dream Beaver didn't abonded the planet. They're still out there, haunting dreams, but in a more dificult way now that they have small and corpereal bodies.
*Kurtzman knows more that he seems. He has alien contacts, including an alien lover.
*Kraang Prime wasn't on New York because he/she was on another part of the world or of Dimension X.
*In Dimension X, there was a very small group of alien called Neutrinos, that the Kraang haunts and get their psychic mind waves to perfectionate the mutagen. Once they started to disappear, the Kraang decided to create their own, and the closer kind of living being that could be use as a Neutrino it's the human raze. That's why they mutated the O'Neil family.
*The reason why the Kraang has made more robot copies of Irma it's for using them to get into the human raze, in diferent places in the world.
*The real Irma it's still keeping because the Kraang knows something about a familiar of her who worked on Rooswell in 1947, July 7th.

aliena · 03-15-2015, 11:51 AM

I definitely think something is up with Kirby. They have to get him out of the way of April being with the turtles, so he probably has a story that will end badly.

Fishface and Tigerclaw will leave Shredder, maybe even help the turtles out on occasion, even if it's in their best interests. Although, Leo will never trust Tigerclaw after he nearly killed him.

Karai will revert back to being bad and will be the one to turn Raph to the dark side. Leo will probably be the one to save him, but Mikey would be a better choice.

Cryomancer · 03-15-2015, 12:43 PM

April's mom is a Neutrino still a possible thing?

Kurtzman I could see either being a secret rogue Kraang/Utrom/actually Fugitoid or being mutated into a toned down Old Hob.

Oh yeah, I still think the intro looks like Splinter is intentionally mutating the turtles. I want this to be a plot line somewhere sometime.

*victory_angel* · 03-15-2015, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer

April's mom is a Neutrino still a possible thing?

April's mother has been pretty much confirmed to be human. The Kraang captured her and experimented on her before April was born and her family was experimented on when she had been a child.

So April is more likely to be a neutrino through that way rather then through her mother.

*drgon78* · 03-15-2015, 07:02 PM

What if the Krang are just evil version of the Utron.

What if all the Krang are lesser or partial clones of Krang Prime.

What if Krang Prime is a wanted criminal.

Ashwolf · 03-20-2015, 03:38 PM

mikey gets hit by the retromutagen which is starting 2 seem more and more likely

1st off, how he decided 2 put on experimental retromutagen

then theres how zeck was nearly gonna spray it on mikey but steranko stopped him, and how mikey was playing w/ the retromutagen and it was gonna explode all over Donnie and mikey but conveniently didn't explode

*IndigoErth* · 03-25-2015, 05:09 PM

Some mutants not seen for a while have been unknowingly cured.

Also got Kraangerized during the Kraang's rampage turning all the citizens of the city into slaves. Became human again when the Turtles saved all the people from Dimension X.

*Luckyday* · 03-25-2015, 05:31 PM

I think the mind serum will be use on Karai but will erase all of her memories. Karai will be no more, and all that left is a sociopath mutant snake name Kiba.

*neatoman* · 12-26-2023, 08:07 PM

Let's see if you had any ideas that turned out to be wrong or ones you have formed after the show ended.

03-07-2015, 12:55 PM	#2
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Interesting theory. We do know her mother was experimented on by the kraang and it's possible April's dad may not even biologically be her father. For example, April's mothers Surname is O'Neil and that is April's surname as well, but we sort of assume that Kirby's surname is O'Neil as well. O'Neil isn't uncommon so its plausible that he does have the same last name of his wife. Other possibilities are that Kirby decided to take his wifes last name rather then his own. however it is possible that Kirby isn't April's father. We know April has Kraang DNA, so it could it be possible that April was conceived into being by the Kraang themselves. And Kirby is just a guy that April's mother knew and he just posing as April's father in an effort of protecting her from the Kraang so she believed she was just a normal girl. As Kirby is a psychologist he would have taken some classes in medical practice so we would know how to fake proof of April getting all blood tests, and things of that nature. __________________

03-08-2015, 02:45 PM	#6
miru Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,874	* Ninjara cut off TigerClaw's tail. * Shredder has a small collection of early, failed mutants. * Kirby is working for the Kraang, and has been the whole time. * Many of the excess mutants died in the Invasion. __________________ Proud Digimon nut.

03-15-2015, 12:43 PM	#12
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	April's mom is a Neutrino still a possible thing? Kurtzman I could see either being a secret rogue Kraang/Utrom/actually Fugitoid or being mutated into a toned down Old Hob. Oh yeah, I still think the intro looks like Splinter is intentionally mutating the turtles. I want this to be a plot line somewhere sometime. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/ Last edited by Cryomancer; 03-15-2015 at 08:23 PM.

03-20-2015, 03:38 PM	#15
Ashwolf Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 540	mikey gets hit by the retromutagen which is starting 2 seem more and more likely 1st off, how he decided 2 put on experimental retromutagen then theres how zeck was nearly gonna spray it on mikey but steranko stopped him, and how mikey was playing w/ the retromutagen and it was gonna explode all over Donnie and mikey but conveniently didn't explode __________________

03-07-2015, 12:58 PM	#3
~~Mew~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: In an apartment Posts: 3,159	They're ALIENS not MUTANTS- Michael Bay

03-07-2015, 01:25 PM	#4
Tarris Vaal Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cullompton, Devon Posts: 505	For that to work, April's aunt would also have to be an actor (and any other extended family that aren't mentioned). Though possible, it seems a lot of extra work for the Kraang (and Kirby seems particularly fearful of them to be potentially working for them). Its more likely to have been genetic engineering during pregnancy or immediately prior (Kraang IVF?) That said, if we ramp up the crazy , why not presume that they are actors, but not working for the Kraang. They actually work for Bishop and the EPF. Bishop was working alongside the Kraang with an eye to eventually betraying them - but giving the Kraang a chance to learn of the EPF's capability (which may explain their relatively easy defeat at the hands of the Kraang later during Invasion). Bishop was hoping to gain access to human based psychic abilities and saw an alliance with the Kraang as a potential means to an end. Kirby is fearful of the Kraang because he is aware of what they are and their knowledge of his connection to Bishop (its fair to presume any previous alliance would have gone sour - perhaps explaining why April's mother is missing). April's aunt is a replacement secondary EPF agent to provide support to Kirby, made out as April's aunt because April was potentially old enough to remember her 'mother's' face. Come the present day and Bishop is ready to collect.

03-08-2015, 04:19 PM	#9
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	Karai captured by Shredder > loses the rest of her mind > used by Shredder > snake myth that snakes can hypnotize their pray > Raph "brainwashed" via use of Karai > Dark Raph

03-08-2015, 05:04 PM	#10
MaximeLoonatic Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 285	Kirby and her wife has got away from the Kraang eyes for a while until they were found by another alien race who battle them for milleniums: The Utroms Spike got ill and sick for a very long time before he found and created the Mutanimals. That explains the decolorated of his jaw. The Dream Beaver didn't abonded the planet. They're still out there, haunting dreams, but in a more dificult way now that they have small and corpereal bodies. Kurtzman knows more that he seems. He has alien contacts, including an alien lover. Kraang Prime wasn't on New York because he/she was on another part of the world or of Dimension X. In Dimension X, there was a very small group of alien called Neutrinos, that the Kraang haunts and get their psychic mind waves to perfectionate the mutagen. Once they started to disappear, the Kraang decided to create their own, and the closer kind of living being that could be use as a Neutrino it's the human raze. That's why they mutated the O'Neil family. The reason why the Kraang has made more robot copies of Irma it's for using them to get into the human raze, in diferent places in the world. The real Irma it's still keeping because the Kraang knows something about a familiar of her who worked on Rooswell in 1947, July 7th.

03-15-2015, 11:51 AM	#11
aliena Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 294	I definitely think something is up with Kirby. They have to get him out of the way of April being with the turtles, so he probably has a story that will end badly. Fishface and Tigerclaw will leave Shredder, maybe even help the turtles out on occasion, even if it's in their best interests. Although, Leo will never trust Tigerclaw after he nearly killed him. Karai will revert back to being bad and will be the one to turn Raph to the dark side. Leo will probably be the one to save him, but Mikey would be a better choice.

03-15-2015, 07:02 PM	#14
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,401	What if the Krang are just evil version of the Utron. What if all the Krang are lesser or partial clones of Krang Prime. What if Krang Prime is a wanted criminal.

03-25-2015, 05:09 PM	#16
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	Some mutants not seen for a while have been unknowingly cured. Also got Kraangerized during the Kraang's rampage turning all the citizens of the city into slaves. Became human again when the Turtles saved all the people from Dimension X.