What version did worse?

Leofan26 · 05-17-2015, 09:12 PM

Character wise, interactions or whatever? I remember fans praising the Nick show back when season one was going. I'm curious on every ones opinions now in season three of the show. Please give your opinion, thank you

*Powder* · 05-17-2015, 09:16 PM

Considering the Fred Wolf series completely neutered the turtles by giving them cookie cutter personalities that go against the source material, that's my answer.
Thanks to that show we'll never see a Michelangelo who writes, a Don with depression/anti-social tendencies, etc.

*Shark_Blade* · 05-17-2015, 09:27 PM

Next Mutation of course.

Oooh let's all fall in love with Venus! Terrible script, acting, story, costumes... just ew.

*Powder* · 05-17-2015, 09:38 PM

If we're not talking just cartoons, then I change my 'vote' to Bayturtles.

*Redeemer* · 05-17-2015, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

If we're not talking just cartoons, then I change my 'vote' to Bayturtles.

More like Bay Aliens

*CyberCubed* · 05-17-2015, 10:16 PM

The Turtles always have likeable personalities and interactions in every series except the 2014 movie and Next Mutation.

The Coffee Man · 05-17-2015, 10:50 PM

I'm giving my vote to the Next Mutation. Say what you want about 2014 Movie (and I will agree, despite my enjoyment of it, that it was an extremely stupid movie) but at least the turtles had personalities resembling what we're familiar with. The Next Mutation had nothing going for it. The characterization of the four were shoddy, we got a fifth turtle that was a mary sue, and the brotherhood of the turtles was completely destroyed. This show was TMNT at rock bottom. I'll take the modern movie, it's sequel and TMNT III any day over this one.

*Autbot_Benz* · 05-20-2015, 02:01 AM

Fred Wolf & Next Mutation

Fred Wolf made everyone a bumbling Idiot and was just too goofy.I like my turtles a bit serious with a bit of humor sometimes.

Next Mutation was just Blah

*turtlefanforever* · 05-20-2015, 09:16 AM

Cartoons: nick hands down
all media: Bay turtles.

*CyberCubed* · 05-20-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Fred Wolf made everyone a bumbling Idiot and was just too goofy.I like my turtles a bit serious with a bit of humor sometimes.

LOL, what? The Turtles were never portrayed as idiots or overly goofy in the OT. The plots were goofy, but the Turtles themselves? They acted like adults in that show.

*Prowler* · 05-20-2015, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL, what? The Turtles were never portrayed as idiots or overly goofy in the OT. The plots were goofy, but the Turtles themselves? They acted like adults in that show.

Ye even Michelangelo wasn't as goofy compared to later versions of the character. I also prefer FW Raphael to 2k3 Raphael by far. That being said, both started out fine in the first couple of season, but them Mikey became annoying after Battle Nexus and Raph just kept getting more hotheaded and impulsive.

*pferreira* · 05-21-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL, what? The Turtles were never portrayed as idiots or overly goofy in the OT. The plots were goofy, but the Turtles themselves? They acted like adults in that show.

Yeah I believe Turtles Forever was responsible for committing that representation of the FW Turtles which people base their judgement on.

*plastroncafe* · 05-21-2015, 11:19 AM

I didn't need Turtles Forever to have that opinion of the FW Cartoon.

*CyberCubed* · 05-21-2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I didn't need Turtles Forever to have that opinion of the FW Cartoon.

Then you must not remember the original cartoon very well. The Turtles themselves were never overly goofy, it was the plots and slapstick humor that made the show goofy.

Even 80's Michaelangelo was far more laid back and never made a constant fool of himself like Nick or 2k3 Mikey did at times.

*plastroncafe* · 05-21-2015, 11:49 AM

Or maybe...I just hold a different opinion than you.
Or have higher standards for what constitutes "adult" behavior.

Either way, OT Mike was a ripoff of Sean Penn's Spicoli from "Fast Times at Ridgmont High," a character that did nothing BUT make a fool of himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTSk5cbaZso
CW: Drug use.

Which is not to say that further incarnations didn't further abuse the characterization of Michaelangelo, because...oh they really did, again: In my opinion.
But then, I don't tend to favorably view Mikes that aren't Mirage or First Movie.

*CyberCubed* · 05-21-2015, 01:13 PM

Either way, my point is the Turtles themselves weren't overly goofy.

*plastroncafe* · 05-21-2015, 01:20 PM

But by your own admission: They were goofy.

Groovy · 05-21-2015, 05:01 PM

Personally, I think they were wisecracking asskickers in the original cartoon. The cartoon itself is very goofy, but in the context of the show the turtles aren't inherently goofy, or at least not in a negative way, to me anyway.

And if we didn't have that show, we wouldn't have a lot of Turtle things most likely. I dig it better than any other Turtle cartoon by far.

I also love the Mirage comics and the first couple movies, etc.

*GoldMutant* · 05-21-2015, 05:07 PM

Spoiler:

(hides) I'm such a jerk at times.

*Jephael* · 05-21-2015, 07:38 PM

Turtle Tunes and We Wish You a Turtle Christmas!

05-17-2015, 09:12 PM	#1
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	What version did worse? Character wise, interactions or whatever? I remember fans praising the Nick show back when season one was going. I'm curious on every ones opinions now in season three of the show. Please give your opinion, thank you

05-20-2015, 02:01 AM	#8
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,171	Fred Wolf & Next Mutation Fred Wolf made everyone a bumbling Idiot and was just too goofy.I like my turtles a bit serious with a bit of humor sometimes. Next Mutation was just Blah __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

05-20-2015, 09:16 AM	#9
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	simple Cartoons: nick hands down all media: Bay turtles.

05-21-2015, 05:07 PM	#19
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Spoiler: Coming Out of Our Shells Tour (hides) I'm such a jerk at times.

05-21-2015, 07:38 PM	#20
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Turtle Tunes and We Wish You a Turtle Christmas! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

05-17-2015, 09:16 PM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Considering the Fred Wolf series completely neutered the turtles by giving them cookie cutter personalities that go against the source material, that's my answer. Thanks to that show we'll never see a Michelangelo who writes, a Don with depression/anti-social tendencies, etc.

05-17-2015, 09:27 PM	#3
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Next Mutation of course. Oooh let's all fall in love with Venus! Terrible script, acting, story, costumes... just ew.

05-17-2015, 09:38 PM	#4
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	If we're not talking just cartoons, then I change my 'vote' to Bayturtles.

05-17-2015, 10:16 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,819	The Turtles always have likeable personalities and interactions in every series except the 2014 movie and Next Mutation.

05-17-2015, 10:50 PM	#7
The Coffee Man Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 21	I'm giving my vote to the Next Mutation. Say what you want about 2014 Movie (and I will agree, despite my enjoyment of it, that it was an extremely stupid movie) but at least the turtles had personalities resembling what we're familiar with. The Next Mutation had nothing going for it. The characterization of the four were shoddy, we got a fifth turtle that was a mary sue, and the brotherhood of the turtles was completely destroyed. This show was TMNT at rock bottom. I'll take the modern movie, it's sequel and TMNT III any day over this one.

05-21-2015, 01:13 PM	#16
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,819	Either way, my point is the Turtles themselves weren't overly goofy.

05-21-2015, 05:01 PM	#18
Groovy Random Punk Join Date: May 2015 Location: Cowabunga, USA Posts: 18	Personally, I think they were wisecracking asskickers in the original cartoon. The cartoon itself is very goofy, but in the context of the show the turtles aren't inherently goofy, or at least not in a negative way, to me anyway. And if we didn't have that show, we wouldn't have a lot of Turtle things most likely. I dig it better than any other Turtle cartoon by far. I also love the Mirage comics and the first couple movies, etc.