Marvel Studios needs to get Galactus and Silver Surfer

~~JakeSully~~ · 08-31-2015, 11:34 PM

MCU is seriously lacking them and Galactus could be the ultimate MCU villain even in an Avengers movie.

Silver Surfer needs to be in Guardians 2 or 3.

DarkLightDragon · 09-01-2015, 06:09 AM

Too bad Fox is sticking to it's guns and keeping the rights to using any FF-stuff for their films, even after their little reboot failed miserably.

*NinjaPug* · 09-01-2015, 10:03 AM

Now that Marvel Studios is outside the Marvel reporting umbrella I wonder if Feige will be able to negotiate any type of agreement for any Marvel characters with Fox. I don't know how much of the bad blood between the two was caused by Perlmutter who is out of the picture now.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 09-01-2015, 10:17 AM

I don't care much for the FF, I think we've all seen enough of them cinematically for now, but Silver Surfer? Galactus? Annihilus? I'd love to see Marvel get all of those cosmic characters.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 09-01-2015, 10:18 AM

You guys are way too obsessed with Marvel movies.
They're not even that good.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-01-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

You guys are way too obsessed with Marvel movies.
They're not even that good.

You're back! The pet rock missed you!

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-01-2015, 10:36 AM

Also, Galactus seems like a pretty good contender for the next big bad of the MCU after Thanos is dealt with. Provided they can get the rights, of course.

Watching the original 2005 or whenever Fantastic Four film, I think the team could be successfully translated to the MCU. Here's what I can come up with after a few weeks of mulling it over:

In the Cold War Era, disgraced scientist Franklin Richards has been unable to find any support in the U.S. or NATO for his research and eventually turns to President Victor Von Doom, leader of the small but powerful nation of Latveria. He and his team (Sue, Johnny, and Ben) travel to Latveria and work on a dimensional portal that eventually opens to the Negative Zone.

The five travel through the portal, affected, powers, Von Doom realizes the power of the technology and becomes determined to conquer all for Latveria's rise among the nations, blah blah...

Eventually, the Fantastic Four have to lock Von Doom in the Negative Zone--but at the cost of locking themselves in with him, destroying the portal...

Cut to present day, when SHIELD, Pym, or some equivalent science force opens the Negative Zone and rescues the Four. Doom returns to Latveria, fighting the Four and the Avengers to a standstill before retreating to Latveria.

*MikeandRaph87* · 09-01-2015, 11:03 AM

What characters are free for Marvel to use? Quicksilver was allowed to be used, but was offed in his initial appearance. They are not the Fantastic Four, but Galactus is among their rouges gallery. Silver Surfer on the otherhand should be allowed to be used however there might have to be a fee to include him.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-01-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

What characters are free for Marvel to use? Quicksilver was allowed to be used, but was offed in his initial appearance. They are not the Fantastic Four, but Galactus is among their rouges gallery. Silver Surfer on the otherhand should be allowed to be used however there might have to be a fee to include him.

As of right now, I believe the characters in Fox's "Fantastic Four bundle" are Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Skrulls, the Fantastic Four themselves, and Reed's future kids (Franklin and Valeria).

Kang the Conqueror is, I believe, a traditional FF villain, so he might be tied up with Fox as well.

However, it is my understanding that Namor got sold off separately to Universal...?

DarkLightDragon · 09-01-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

You guys are way too obsessed with Marvel movies.
They're not even that good.

Who said anything about me?

I was commenting based on the fallout of Failtastic Four and how it would affect the likelihood of seeing SS and Galactus in Marvel Cinematic movies.

This has nothing to do with my personal preference for the company.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-01-2015, 01:55 PM

Bleeding Cool hints the Fiege/Horn teaming may not be the only shake-up at the company

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/...arvel-changes/

Really, if Quesada and Loeb get the boot, I will be dancing in the street with Jagger and Bowie. That will happen and you will all let it happen.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-01-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Bleeding Cool hints the Fiege/Horn teaming may not be the only shake-up at the company

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/...arvel-changes/

Really, if Quesada and Loeb get the boot, I will be dancing in the street with Jagger and Bowie. That will happen and you will all let it happen.

But... but Quesada and Loeb are the guys running the TV side of things, right? I don't give a rat's patooey about Agents of SHIELD or Agent Carter, but Daredevil was epic. And I'm expecting Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, et al to be just as good.

Why should I want them gone?

*ZariusTwo* · 09-01-2015, 02:10 PM

The success of Daredevil has nothing to do with those hacks outside of them hiring the people responsible for that success. Anyone can do their f*cking job.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 09-01-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

In the Cold War Era, disgraced scientist REED Richards has been unable to find any support in the U.S. or NATO for his research and eventually turns to President Victor Von Doom, leader of the small but powerful nation of Latveria. He and his team (Sue, Johnny, and Ben) travel to Latveria and work on a dimensional portal that eventually opens to the Negative Zone.

Fixed that for you.

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

As of right now, I believe the characters in Fox's "Fantastic Four bundle" are Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Skrulls, the Fantastic Four themselves, and Reed's future kids (Franklin and Valeria).

Kang the Conqueror is, I believe, a traditional FF villain, so he might be tied up with Fox as well.

However, it is my understanding that Namor got sold off separately to Universal...?

I'd personally rather see Namor than Kang- he's got personal history with Sue.

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Really, if Quesada and Loeb get the boot, I will be dancing in the street with Jagger and Bowie. That will happen and you will all let it happen.

And you won't be the only one. But then, you know my feelings on Joephisto....

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

But... but Quesada and Loeb are the guys running the TV side of things, right? I don't give a rat's patooey about Agents of SHIELD or Agent Carter, but Daredevil was epic. And I'm expecting Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, et al to be just as good.

Why should I want them gone?

These are also the guys responsible for MOST of the bad directions of the Marvel comics in the last decade. Spidey and Avengers fans everywhere would be vindicated!

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The success of Daredevil has nothing to do with those hacks outside of them hiring the people responsible for that success. Anyone can do their f*cking job.

Exactly. In fact, I'd venture to say that they are a large part of the reason for mass fan-exodus.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-01-2015, 03:21 PM

Thanks, Duckie! I did indeed mean Reed Richard.

So these guys are basically Dan Didio for the Marvel Comics?

*ZariusTwo* · 09-01-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

So these guys are basically Dan Didio for the Marvel Comics?

They're worse. Much worse.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 09-01-2015, 03:32 PM

Heh, unless it's years later when Franklin grows up and uses his reality-warping powers, LOL! In which case, maybe he took dad's place? Hmm, now I'm suddenly thinking of interesting "What If" storylines. Sounds like fodder for my Red-Back series!

And yes, that would be an accurate assessment.

~~JakeSully~~ · 09-01-2015, 06:09 PM

That would be awesome to have FF back to Marvel.

Fox needs to stick to X-Men and their universe and leave FF alone.

Wouldn't Galactus be the best MCU ever?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-01-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeSully

That would be awesome to have FF back to Marvel.

Fox needs to stick to X-Men and their universe and leave FF alone.

Wouldn't Galactus be the best MCU ever?

Honestly, Fox needs to give ALL the rights back to Marvel. Or at least roll the X-Men under the MCU and retain distribution rights or something...

If Marvel got ALL the rights back, they could/should/would have enough power to come up with deals to finance more movies per year. Thus, allowing an MCU X-Men series... where Rogue wouldn't be useless, Cyclops wouldn't be useless, Storm wouldn't be useless, Jean Grey wouldn't be EMO, and Wolverine wouldn't be God.

*sdp* · 09-01-2015, 07:36 PM

I hate people that say that X character from the FF should be at Marvel or that Marvel should get the FF so they can use their rogues/characters. I do agree that FF has awesome characters but the FF are not lame characters, they're some of the best heroes that Marvel has, I'd rather see some FF adventures than a bunch of the other movies of heroes Marvel is making, People just haven't read any good FF stories I guess since they don't seem to get any respect on the internet.

I do think Fox ****ed up the FF so I'm not sure how they plan to salvage it, their "Cinematic" Universe doesn't really benefit from the F4. At least the way things are now. I do think studios missed the ball, Sony still had control of Punisher and Ghost Rider and Fox could've kept Daredevil easily. Marvel was already making bank with their early cinematic universe and yet Sony and Fox couldn't get their sh-t together. Fox having F4 and Daredevil to play with would've made a lot more room to explore ideas and Sony with Punisher and Ghost Rider as well.

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Honestly, Fox needs to give ALL the rights back to Marvel. Or at least roll the X-Men under the MCU and retain distribution rights or something...

If Marvel got ALL the rights back, they could/should/would have enough power to come up with deals to finance more movies per year. Thus, allowing an MCU X-Men series... where Rogue wouldn't be useless, Cyclops wouldn't be useless, Storm wouldn't be useless, Jean Grey wouldn't be EMO, and Wolverine wouldn't be God.

Why do they need to? Financial reasons aside which is why they would never do it do you really want Marvel to have X-Men back?

What good would it honestly do? Besides having some cool moments of having say Wolverine in an Avengers movie there's nothing to gain. Fox does a fairly decent job with the X-Men movies. Sure some characters haven't gotten the same characterizations but I could say the same thing in the MCU.

Marvel wouldn't magically release more movies per year, they already have too many movies in their calendars so that only means some other heroes would get bumped back in favor of X-Men. If Marvel had had them all along we might've never seen the GotG movie and would definitely not be getting the inhumanoids etc. And we'd see a new X-Men movie every few years, I mean Fox is releasing them fairly consistent while at Marvel they'd see one new movie every few years. X-Men is good at Fox, Marvel wouldn't do anything better with it.

08-31-2015, 11:34 PM	#1
~~JakeSully~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 782	Marvel Studios needs to get Galactus and Silver Surfer MCU is seriously lacking them and Galactus could be the ultimate MCU villain even in an Avengers movie. Silver Surfer needs to be in Guardians 2 or 3.

09-01-2015, 10:36 AM	#7
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Also, Galactus seems like a pretty good contender for the next big bad of the MCU after Thanos is dealt with. Provided they can get the rights, of course. Watching the original 2005 or whenever Fantastic Four film, I think the team could be successfully translated to the MCU. Here's what I can come up with after a few weeks of mulling it over: In the Cold War Era, disgraced scientist Franklin Richards has been unable to find any support in the U.S. or NATO for his research and eventually turns to President Victor Von Doom, leader of the small but powerful nation of Latveria. He and his team (Sue, Johnny, and Ben) travel to Latveria and work on a dimensional portal that eventually opens to the Negative Zone. The five travel through the portal, affected, powers, Von Doom realizes the power of the technology and becomes determined to conquer all for Latveria's rise among the nations, blah blah... Eventually, the Fantastic Four have to lock Von Doom in the Negative Zone--but at the cost of locking themselves in with him, destroying the portal... Cut to present day, when SHIELD, Pym, or some equivalent science force opens the Negative Zone and rescues the Four. Doom returns to Latveria, fighting the Four and the Avengers to a standstill before retreating to Latveria. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

09-01-2015, 11:03 AM	#8
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	What characters are free for Marvel to use? Quicksilver was allowed to be used, but was offed in his initial appearance. They are not the Fantastic Four, but Galactus is among their rouges gallery. Silver Surfer on the otherhand should be allowed to be used however there might have to be a fee to include him. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

09-01-2015, 01:55 PM	#11
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	Bleeding Cool hints the Fiege/Horn teaming may not be the only shake-up at the company http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/...arvel-changes/ Really, if Quesada and Loeb get the boot, I will be dancing in the street with Jagger and Bowie. That will happen and you will all let it happen. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

09-01-2015, 02:10 PM	#13
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	The success of Daredevil has nothing to do with those hacks outside of them hiring the people responsible for that success. Anyone can do their fcking job. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue* Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

09-01-2015, 06:09 AM	#2
DarkLightDragon Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,026	Too bad Fox is sticking to it's guns and keeping the rights to using any FF-stuff for their films, even after their little reboot failed miserably.

09-01-2015, 10:03 AM	#3
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Now that Marvel Studios is outside the Marvel reporting umbrella I wonder if Feige will be able to negotiate any type of agreement for any Marvel characters with Fox. I don't know how much of the bad blood between the two was caused by Perlmutter who is out of the picture now.

09-01-2015, 10:18 AM	#5
~~Amaranthus~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West-Flanders, Belgium Posts: 1,815	You guys are way too obsessed with Marvel movies. They're not even that good.

09-01-2015, 03:21 PM	#15
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Thanks, Duckie! I did indeed mean Reed Richard. So these guys are basically Dan Didio for the Marvel Comics? __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

09-01-2015, 03:32 PM	#17
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Heh, unless it's years later when Franklin grows up and uses his reality-warping powers, LOL! In which case, maybe he took dad's place? Hmm, now I'm suddenly thinking of interesting "What If" storylines. Sounds like fodder for my Red-Back series! And yes, that would be an accurate assessment. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

09-01-2015, 06:09 PM	#18
~~JakeSully~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 782	That would be awesome to have FF back to Marvel. Fox needs to stick to X-Men and their universe and leave FF alone. Wouldn't Galactus be the best MCU ever?