April could potentially become a new Karai.

*victory_angel* · 09-14-2015, 03:40 PM

I know number of people on this forum are screaming in outrage at the very notion of this idea, but please bear with me.

However people have pointed out there was that moment in Creeping Doom where Donnie gives April a proud smile. And also the fact that the Don O'Neil has been reduced to an occasional mention, but really hasn't been as focused on as it had been in the last two past seasons. Even in this recent episode when Leo, Raph, and Mikey yell Sensei. Donnie alone shouts out April instead.

But through out the story thus far, the Shredder is ignorant about April's psychic abilities. Shredder knows April holds some importance to Splinter and the turtles. But in his mind she is just a insignificant girl who is being trained by Splinter as a Kunoichi. So the only thing useful about her to him is the fact that she is a friend of the Turtles.

And in the possible spoilers revealed in that kids chapter book...

Spoiler:

As we know Splinter and April do see each other in surrogate roles. Splinter sees April as a second daughter and April thinks of Splinter as a second father. Neither of them can replace the people that have been taken from them...nor do they desire to. But they can fill in for those roles to a point.

So it wouldn't be too far fetched for April to be brainwashed so that she can force Karai's mind back into the Shredder's control. Or worse yet...figuring that Karai is beyond all hope of being bent under his will. So he forces April to serve as the Kunoichi on his side instead.

Look at it this way. Recently Leo has more or less acknowledged that Donnie's feelings for April are more then just a crush. And in yesterdays episode, when Leo was giving that below the belt statement of "Try Harder" Leo easily could have April dragged into the issue by saying

"You haven't succeed, because you don't want Karai to be here! You don't even like her because she tried to kill April!"

It is true that Donnie holds very little love for Karai as she is now. Heck, he practically says he hates her when he first meets her. And if wasn't for the fact that Karai is Splinter's natural daughter, Donnie would certainly be less on the fence about the issue then he is currently.

In the fourfold trap Donnie did honestly say that he had exhausted everything he can think of to negate the mind worms control over Karai. And both Splinter and Mikey did acknowledge that Donnie has at least made a valiant effort in trying to find a cure. But for Leo, Donnie's efforts were not good enough.

However what if it was April in Karai's place? Donnie would have tried to move heaven and earth itself to save April from the Shredder's control.

*drgon78* · 09-14-2015, 05:22 PM

I am more interested in that Shredder or any of his henchmen even know that April has psychic powers and the fact she is immune to mutagen seems forgotten by Baxter Stockmen. I would love to see an episode were Shredder learns what she can do. I would also like to see the Krang explain why they have no interest in her anymore.

*victory_angel* · 09-28-2015, 08:25 PM

Since the finally has been aired, I feel I can bring this topic back up.

Now odds are that should the Turtles go back in time and stop the Triceraton invasion from occurring the Shredder is not going to remember April is a psychic.

One of the things I've been struggling with lately when I come up with theories is the existence of Splinter. While I don't want to see Splinter being killed off at the same time having something as emotional as Splinter's demise being cheapened by having him survive. So having the Turtles save the Earth from certain doom but still lose Splinter in the long run. So lets say for the sake of argument he doesn't survive.

April has an emotional psychic outburst that knocks Shredder aside. As majority of Shredder's henchmen are people who have abilities or skills that he feels are useful to him. Such as Xever's Skills in theft and Tiger Claws skills as an assassin.

Shredder wouldn't think anything about it at first. He would just know something happened and that April is involved as a result. '

Karai is a loose cannon at this time as we don't know if she is still on the side of the Shredder or if she is truly free of him. Or if she is a threat both for the Shredder and the Turtles. April could use her powers to help restore Karai's torn mind, but before Karai is completely healed she is interrupted.

April is abducted so that her powers could be used to force Karai to bend to his will. Or he brushes off Karai as a lost cause and instead takes April under his wing, brain washing her to work for him.

*Metalwolf* · 09-29-2015, 12:14 AM

It might be possible that they can only arrive back at the time they left, still leaving Splinter dead but saving the Earth in the process. Didn't Ciro say at one point he wanted to have a series where Splinter was already dead? This might be where he gets to test that out, plus it might be a way for fitting in Karai that the Turtles +Splinter dynamic wouldn't have allowed.

*victory_angel* · 09-29-2015, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf

It might be possible that they can only arrive back at the time they left, still leaving Splinter dead but saving the Earth in the process. Didn't Ciro say at one point he wanted to have a series where Splinter was already dead? This might be where he gets to test that out, plus it might be a way for fitting in Karai that the Turtles +Splinter dynamic wouldn't have allowed.

And plus it would show that so long as the Shredder exists that none of them can have any happiness. So in Shredder's mind if the Turtles take Karai from him then he would take April from them.

*Metalwolf* · 09-29-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

And plus it would show that so long as the Shredder exists that none of them can have any happiness. So in Shredder's mind if the Turtles take Karai from him then he would take April from them.

Indeed. That is, if they don't 'rewind' everything so that Splinter can live, which I'm sort of expecting them to.

He might live since the Heart of Darkness will be prevented from being assembled, but I'm hoping the writers leave him dead since it shows how sadistic Shredder is and open up lots of new roads not taken on the show. If they can show lesbianism with the main character on Korra, surely they can have Splinter's death remain permanent.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-30-2015, 05:34 PM

I don't like this idea as I hate April's powers and wish she never even had them. And it would give more focus on April than the Turtles and she's already had that with the Kraang plot. So, no, just no. She's enough of a Mary Sue as it is. Give her this, and it'll be worse.

Ursalink · 09-30-2015, 07:21 PM

First of all, Splinter's death can't be permanent, because if it is, that means the Earth will be destroyed a second time and that would end the series. As far as I see, at least until the very end of the series, neither the Shredder or Splinter can die. Considering the circunstances, the Turtles will fight the hell out of everything to avoid Splinter's demise next time. Shredder is a real psycho-monster, so the only way to end him would be combining the strength of Splinter and his family.

Now, about April becoming a "new Karai". I have to say, that is a really sick and wrong idea. But on the other hand, sound quite interesting. I mean, it would be definitely something that this Psycho-Shredder would do for his insane revenge; just to torment Splinter and the Turtles. Sure, April's Psychic's powers could help her to free her from Shredder's control; but the idea of seeing Karai and April in certain "role's switch" intrigates me. At the end, April would be free but she could retain the knowledge of Karai's battle style. That way, April will finally leave the classic role of "Damsel in Distress".

I mean, considering what they did to Irma's character, anything can happen now.

*victory_angel* · 09-30-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I don't like this idea as I hate April's powers and wish she never even had them. And it would give more focus on April than the Turtles and she's already had that with the Kraang plot. So, no, just no. She's enough of a Mary Sue as it is. Give her this, and it'll be worse.

Or it can take her out of the story and focus on the Turtles in her attempts to get her back and also how her absence affects the team. It can also get Karai some development as a person and getting to know the Turtles as her family.

And it would settle the Triangle.

With Leo he knew Raph has a rivalry with him so he knew what buttons to push to trigger Raph's anger.

Donnie followed Leo's lead and also started making Rockwell angry to help get the worm out of his system.

The Mind Worm formula was likely altered so that it was less easy to break like the one given to Raph, Slash, and Rockwell. But it is still emotionally triggered so when Splinter gave that last strike on Karai he says the words "I love you Miwa" and that was what helped her break free of the worms control.

So if a Dark April plot was to occur Donnie and Casey would be forced to work together to help her and ultimately one of the two would be able to break the Shredder's hold on her.

09-14-2015, 03:40 PM	#1
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	April could potentially become a new Karai. I know number of people on this forum are screaming in outrage at the very notion of this idea, but please bear with me. However people have pointed out there was that moment in Creeping Doom where Donnie gives April a proud smile. And also the fact that the Don O'Neil has been reduced to an occasional mention, but really hasn't been as focused on as it had been in the last two past seasons. Even in this recent episode when Leo, Raph, and Mikey yell Sensei. Donnie alone shouts out April instead. But through out the story thus far, the Shredder is ignorant about April's psychic abilities. Shredder knows April holds some importance to Splinter and the turtles. But in his mind she is just a insignificant girl who is being trained by Splinter as a Kunoichi. So the only thing useful about her to him is the fact that she is a friend of the Turtles. And in the possible spoilers revealed in that kids chapter book... Spoiler: April has a emotional psychic outburst that sends Shredder clear across the park As we know Splinter and April do see each other in surrogate roles. Splinter sees April as a second daughter and April thinks of Splinter as a second father. Neither of them can replace the people that have been taken from them...nor do they desire to. But they can fill in for those roles to a point. So it wouldn't be too far fetched for April to be brainwashed so that she can force Karai's mind back into the Shredder's control. Or worse yet...figuring that Karai is beyond all hope of being bent under his will. So he forces April to serve as the Kunoichi on his side instead. Look at it this way. Recently Leo has more or less acknowledged that Donnie's feelings for April are more then just a crush. And in yesterdays episode, when Leo was giving that below the belt statement of "Try Harder" Leo easily could have April dragged into the issue by saying "You haven't succeed, because you don't want Karai to be here! You don't even like her because she tried to kill April!" It is true that Donnie holds very little love for Karai as she is now. Heck, he practically says he hates her when he first meets her. And if wasn't for the fact that Karai is Splinter's natural daughter, Donnie would certainly be less on the fence about the issue then he is currently. In the fourfold trap Donnie did honestly say that he had exhausted everything he can think of to negate the mind worms control over Karai. And both Splinter and Mikey did acknowledge that Donnie has at least made a valiant effort in trying to find a cure. But for Leo, Donnie's efforts were not good enough. However what if it was April in Karai's place? Donnie would have tried to move heaven and earth itself to save April from the Shredder's control. __________________

09-28-2015, 08:25 PM	#3
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Since the finally has been aired, I feel I can bring this topic back up. Now odds are that should the Turtles go back in time and stop the Triceraton invasion from occurring the Shredder is not going to remember April is a psychic. One of the things I've been struggling with lately when I come up with theories is the existence of Splinter. While I don't want to see Splinter being killed off at the same time having something as emotional as Splinter's demise being cheapened by having him survive. So having the Turtles save the Earth from certain doom but still lose Splinter in the long run. So lets say for the sake of argument he doesn't survive. April has an emotional psychic outburst that knocks Shredder aside. As majority of Shredder's henchmen are people who have abilities or skills that he feels are useful to him. Such as Xever's Skills in theft and Tiger Claws skills as an assassin. Shredder wouldn't think anything about it at first. He would just know something happened and that April is involved as a result. ' Karai is a loose cannon at this time as we don't know if she is still on the side of the Shredder or if she is truly free of him. Or if she is a threat both for the Shredder and the Turtles. April could use her powers to help restore Karai's torn mind, but before Karai is completely healed she is interrupted. April is abducted so that her powers could be used to force Karai to bend to his will. Or he brushes off Karai as a lost cause and instead takes April under his wing, brain washing her to work for him. __________________

09-30-2015, 05:34 PM	#7
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I don't like this idea as I hate April's powers and wish she never even had them. And it would give more focus on April than the Turtles and she's already had that with the Kraang plot. So, no, just no. She's enough of a Mary Sue as it is. Give her this, and it'll be worse. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-14-2015, 05:22 PM	#2
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,408	I am more interested in that Shredder or any of his henchmen even know that April has psychic powers and the fact she is immune to mutagen seems forgotten by Baxter Stockmen. I would love to see an episode were Shredder learns what she can do. I would also like to see the Krang explain why they have no interest in her anymore.

09-29-2015, 12:14 AM	#4
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	It might be possible that they can only arrive back at the time they left, still leaving Splinter dead but saving the Earth in the process. Didn't Ciro say at one point he wanted to have a series where Splinter was already dead? This might be where he gets to test that out, plus it might be a way for fitting in Karai that the Turtles +Splinter dynamic wouldn't have allowed.

09-30-2015, 07:21 PM	#8
Ursalink Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 136	First of all, Splinter's death can't be permanent, because if it is, that means the Earth will be destroyed a second time and that would end the series. As far as I see, at least until the very end of the series, neither the Shredder or Splinter can die. Considering the circunstances, the Turtles will fight the hell out of everything to avoid Splinter's demise next time. Shredder is a real psycho-monster, so the only way to end him would be combining the strength of Splinter and his family. Now, about April becoming a "new Karai". I have to say, that is a really sick and wrong idea. But on the other hand, sound quite interesting. I mean, it would be definitely something that this Psycho-Shredder would do for his insane revenge; just to torment Splinter and the Turtles. Sure, April's Psychic's powers could help her to free her from Shredder's control; but the idea of seeing Karai and April in certain "role's switch" intrigates me. At the end, April would be free but she could retain the knowledge of Karai's battle style. That way, April will finally leave the classic role of "Damsel in Distress". I mean, considering what they did to Irma's character, anything can happen now.