The Mirage Turtles Are Better Fighters

Speedy Cerviche · 10-09-2015, 03:53 AM

Not sure if this goes in this or the Comics Discussion. Do you think the Mirage Turtles are the best fighters when compared to the counterparts across the other mediums? I mean they don't mess around they kill their opponents, especially regarding the foot clan, almost every time.

HeroTurtlesFan · 10-09-2015, 03:57 AM

I'm not sure I'd argue "killing one's opponent" makes you a better fighter. It often takes more skill to incapacitate than simply kill.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-09-2015, 03:57 AM

probably, although I'd say the Nick Turtles might have a good chance if not a upper hand. Since the Nick Turtles have shown to be ruthless, stealthy and the writers actually incorporates actual martial arts in the show so we do get a better look at what the Turtles can do.

Editor's Note Comics · 10-09-2015, 12:13 PM

I hate to say it....I mean really hate to say it....but I imagine the 2014 Turtles would be the ones to win a fight, but are not necessarily the best fighters. I only say this because they're jacked up on steroids, can bend the laws of physics when it's convenient, have ridiculous variability in how strong they are, and apparently have adamantium for shells.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 10-09-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Editor's Note Comics

I hate to say it....I mean really hate to say it....but I imagine the 2014 Turtles would be the ones to win a fight, but are not necessarily the best fighters. I only say this because they're jacked up on steroids, can bend the laws of physics when it's convenient, have ridiculous variability in how strong they are, and apparently have adamantium for shells.

Ugh....

You make valid points, but since this is a fantasy what if scenario, The Mirage Turtles would eviscerate The PDMT (Platinum Dune's Moneymaking Travesties) on principal alone.

The universe couldn't live with itself otherwise.

*Powder* · 10-09-2015, 12:48 PM

Mirage's turtles are the best fighters, hands down, yes.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-09-2015, 01:10 PM

Mirage/Image, yes.

And I hate saying it, but as I said on another thread, I think the IDW Turtles are some of the poorest fighters.

For second place, 4Kids TMNT were great fighters who we actually got to see progress and develop in skill. Case in point: Hun. He was a juggernaut (b****) at first, but eventually he was just an afterthought for the Turtles.

Metropoliskid41 · 10-09-2015, 02:03 PM

Yes I would have to agree that the Mirage Turtles are the best fighters.

They certainly trained the most before showing themselves to the world. They had been training for over a decade. Others have followed that template, but I don't think we've ever seen the Turtles in any other medium or adaption take out the shear number of Foot Soldiers and enemies as the Mirage Turtles in the premiere issue.

Can anyone think of or point to a single comic issue, episode, etc from another iteration of the Turtles where they take out a similar (or more) number of foot soliders?

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 10-09-2015, 04:12 PM

Better fighters than all of the others in terms of skill? yes. Able to defeat all the other iterations in a fair fight with both side's resource's all available? no.

Japan's Super mutation, the 4kids dragon modes, all of the other power -ups across the turtles's multiverse... one of the downsides to be the realistic and grounded version when taking on the fantastic is, well, being grounded and realistic.

*Powder* · 10-09-2015, 04:32 PM

Secondary mutations and alternates don't count, mane. Remember, Mirage, Archie & the OT had turtles turning into beasts/robots/etc too, but it's all irrelevant.

As far as 4 regular TMNT go, Mirage's are the best fighters.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 10-09-2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Secondary mutations and alternates don't count, mane. Remember, Mirage, Archie & the OT had turtles turning into beasts/robots/etc too, but it's all irrelevant.

As far as 4 regular TMNT go, Mirage's are the best fighters.

As I said, Mirage TMNT are the best fighters skill-wise. I agree with you on disregarding alternate forms and secondary mutations, but I refuse to disregard power-ups like the dragon forms and mutastones.

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-09-2015, 05:21 PM

Considering the fact that they managed to defeat their Shredder on the first try while other versions have had to struggle in their fights with him or relied on help from Splinter, I'd say yeah.

But I agree on the early comment saying that "willingness to kill" doesn't equal "better fighter".

*Shark_Blade* · 10-09-2015, 05:56 PM

Personally I prefer 2012 turtles and see them as formidable.

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Originally Posted by Editor's Note Comics

I hate to say it....I mean really hate to say it....but I imagine the 2014 Turtles would be the ones to win a fight, but are not necessarily the best fighters. I only say this because they're jacked up on steroids, can bend the laws of physics when it's convenient, have ridiculous variability in how strong they are, and apparently have adamantium for shells.

Heh, agree.

They'd win all.

~~Etsyturtle2~~ · 10-09-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Editor's Note Comics

I hate to say it....I mean really hate to say it....but I imagine the 2014 Turtles would be the ones to win a fight, but are not necessarily the best fighters. I only say this because they're jacked up on steroids, can bend the laws of physics when it's convenient, have ridiculous variability in how strong they are, and apparently have adamantium for shells.

They are not on steroids. They just designed them big.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-09-2015, 08:06 PM

They're generally not a bunch of chuckleheads like they are in every non-Mirage universe, so yeah, I'd say the Mirage TMNT are probably better fighters.

For one thing, they're not all bloated from consuming nothing but pizza and soda for years and years like their counterparts.

Leolead · 06-05-2016, 06:36 AM

Yes, not even a contest.

Cryomancer · 06-05-2016, 08:37 AM

Well it's easy to be the best fighters when you actually use your weapons as weapons. So yeah, totally.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 06-05-2016, 10:06 AM

The mirage turtles could just kill themselves and then whatever turtle group is facing off against them would die too. So better fighters or not, the mirage turtles control the fate of every other incarnation.

*Chris* · 06-05-2016, 11:46 AM

Mirage followed by 4Kids for me.

TMNTChris1980 · 06-05-2016, 02:55 PM

Mirage! They would hand a katana to every incarnation of turtles and tell them to commit seppuku.

10-09-2015, 03:53 AM	#1
Speedy Cerviche Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Little Tokyo Posts: 38	The Mirage Turtles Are Better Fighters Not sure if this goes in this or the Comics Discussion. Do you think the Mirage Turtles are the best fighters when compared to the counterparts across the other mediums? I mean they don't mess around they kill their opponents, especially regarding the foot clan, almost every time.

10-09-2015, 03:57 AM	#3
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	probably, although I'd say the Nick Turtles might have a good chance if not a upper hand. Since the Nick Turtles have shown to be ruthless, stealthy and the writers actually incorporates actual martial arts in the show so we do get a better look at what the Turtles can do. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

10-09-2015, 01:10 PM	#7
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Mirage/Image, yes. And I hate saying it, but as I said on another thread, I think the IDW Turtles are some of the poorest fighters. For second place, 4Kids TMNT were great fighters who we actually got to see progress and develop in skill. Case in point: Hun. He was a juggernaut (b**) at first, but eventually he was just an afterthought for the Turtles. __________________ ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED**

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Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	Yes I would have to agree that the Mirage Turtles are the best fighters. They certainly trained the most before showing themselves to the world. They had been training for over a decade. Others have followed that template, but I don't think we've ever seen the Turtles in any other medium or adaption take out the shear number of Foot Soldiers and enemies as the Mirage Turtles in the premiere issue. Can anyone think of or point to a single comic issue, episode, etc from another iteration of the Turtles where they take out a similar (or more) number of foot soliders? __________________ -------------------

10-09-2015, 04:12 PM	#9
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Better fighters than all of the others in terms of skill? yes. Able to defeat all the other iterations in a fair fight with both side's resource's all available? no. Japan's Super mutation, the 4kids dragon modes, all of the other power -ups across the turtles's multiverse... one of the downsides to be the realistic and grounded version when taking on the fantastic is, well, being grounded and realistic. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

10-09-2015, 03:57 AM	#2
HeroTurtlesFan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 265	I'm not sure I'd argue "killing one's opponent" makes you a better fighter. It often takes more skill to incapacitate than simply kill.

10-09-2015, 12:13 PM	#4
Editor's Note Comics Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Maine Posts: 140	I hate to say it....I mean really hate to say it....but I imagine the 2014 Turtles would be the ones to win a fight, but are not necessarily the best fighters. I only say this because they're jacked up on steroids, can bend the laws of physics when it's convenient, have ridiculous variability in how strong they are, and apparently have adamantium for shells.

10-09-2015, 12:48 PM	#6
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Mirage's turtles are the best fighters, hands down, yes.

10-09-2015, 04:32 PM	#10
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Secondary mutations and alternates don't count, mane. Remember, Mirage, Archie & the OT had turtles turning into beasts/robots/etc too, but it's all irrelevant. As far as 4 regular TMNT go, Mirage's are the best fighters.

10-09-2015, 05:21 PM	#12
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Considering the fact that they managed to defeat their Shredder on the first try while other versions have had to struggle in their fights with him or relied on help from Splinter, I'd say yeah. But I agree on the early comment saying that "willingness to kill" doesn't equal "better fighter". __________________

10-09-2015, 08:06 PM	#15
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	They're generally not a bunch of chuckleheads like they are in every non-Mirage universe, so yeah, I'd say the Mirage TMNT are probably better fighters. For one thing, they're not all bloated from consuming nothing but pizza and soda for years and years like their counterparts.

06-05-2016, 06:36 AM	#16
Leolead Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2014 Location: Cali Posts: 909	Yes, not even a contest. __________________

06-05-2016, 08:37 AM	#17
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Well it's easy to be the best fighters when you actually use your weapons as weapons. So yeah, totally. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

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FredWolfLeonardo This ***** used to be Fun Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Aotearoa New Zealand Posts: 5,368	The mirage turtles could just kill themselves and then whatever turtle group is facing off against them would die too. So better fighters or not, the mirage turtles control the fate of every other incarnation.

06-05-2016, 11:46 AM	#19
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	Mirage followed by 4Kids for me.

06-05-2016, 02:55 PM	#20
TMNTChris1980 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 605	Mirage! They would hand a katana to every incarnation of turtles and tell them to commit seppuku.