Do you like "Turtles in Space" stories in the comics/cartoons?

*CyberCubed* · 10-19-2015, 07:37 PM

One aspect of TMNT that they always do is the Turtles always travel through space and/or Dimension X in every series.

1. Mirage started it off with the Triceraton/Utrom/Fugitoid arc in #5-7 and that's where all the other series based their own Turtles in space stories from. The Turtles also revisit space in Volume 4, Tales and tons of other issues.

2. The original cartoon had the Turtles travel to Dimension X and alien planets countless times in all the various episodes. They met the Neutrinos, alien Turtle planets, tons of different alien races, Lord Dregg tried to conquer the Earth, etc.

3. The 4kids series adapted Mirage's Turtles in Space arc, and went further with it with the Battle Nexus, Triceratons invading Earth, Fast Forward sci-fi adventures, etc.

4. Archie TMNT had the Turtles travel through Dimension X to fight on Stump Asteroid, had the evil alien Malinga bug queen try to conquer Earth, and other alien/space adventures around the middle.

5. IDW TMNT had the Turtles visit Dimension X, and there's bound to be more space stuff once the Triceratons and Utroms are more explored.

6. Nick is about to start their 13-episode Turtles in Space arc in Season 4, and they also already visited Dimension X in Season 2-3.

Outside of the movies, the Turtles always travel through space on adventures in every series. Do you like this sci-fi break from all the Foot Ninja, mutants, and mobsters from most of the series?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-19-2015, 07:43 PM

I think TMNT works best when the sci-fi is in balance with the street-level.

Some of their sci-fi is great, but I think the sci-fi half of the franchise is more likely to run into tedium or poor storytelling than the street-level.

Tales Volume 2 and Volume 4 for examples. Volume 4 had some GREAT concepts and ideas, but poor storytelling choked a lot of it out.

And Tales Volume 2 never got to finish any of its street-level story arcs (Mistress, Mystics, Gang War) because too many sci-fi tales crowded it out.

But the Utroms and Triceratons are amazing concepts. One thing I wish we could have explored would be the reason why the Federation appeared human, lightyears away from Earth... was Earth a long-lost colony? A seeded planet? What?

*Powder* · 10-19-2015, 09:39 PM

Yes, I do. Those arcs are a must-have for pretty much any turtleverse (though I don't think the original films could've pulled it off & I'm glad they didn't try).

*sdp* · 10-19-2015, 10:19 PM

Yes, grounded martial arts and then sci-fi heavy is something not many franchises can pull off and TMNT pulls it off without problems.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-19-2015, 10:35 PM

Suits me fine.

I think I'm a little different from some in that for me, my favorite part of TMNT isn't so much the story or the scenario as it is the characters. And I think the personalities of the main characters are so strong that you can generally drop them into any type of setting, from NYC to Japan to outer space to the Old West and make it work. I think that's a huge part of why the TMNT has so much longevity and why you can tell so many different stories with them. Like it has a core concept and a basic theme but you can be really, really broad with it.

Editor's Note Comics · 10-20-2015, 09:16 AM

As long as it's good story telling, it's fine. Take Vol. 4, it wasn't the science fiction part that made it dull, it was the pacing.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-20-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Yes, I do. Those arcs are a must-have for pretty much any turtleverse (though I don't think the original films could've pulled it off & I'm glad they didn't try).

The second film should have tried TCRI instead of TGRI.

*Powder* · 10-20-2015, 01:25 PM

They couldn't, there was a dispute over the rights to that name. All for the best anyway, given the more grounded approach.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-20-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

All for the best anyway, given the more grounded approach.

The first film already has that, and it's an OK start. The extraterrestrial orgin of the ooze was supposed to be it's secret, and instead that was toned down to the mutation an accident (could still have been both accident and extraterrestrial origin).

*Icebot* · 10-20-2015, 03:53 PM

I enjoy all of them I've seen.

*Wesley* · 10-21-2015, 10:17 AM

Yes, I enjoyed the "Turtles in Space" stories that I've watched in the OT and 2003 series, even though I'm not a big fan of scifi tv shows set in space and outside of Earth. I guess I like that it's balanced well with the other themes of tmnt. I haven't read the comics or watched most of the 2012 cartoon, so I can't comment on those.

*Shark_Blade* · 10-21-2015, 10:28 AM

No. I have Star Wars for that.

I prefer my turtles in NYC or any other places in the world.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-21-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

No. I have Star Wars for that.

I prefer my turtles in NYC or any other places in the world.

I accept such ideas too, as long as the ooze is of extraterrestrial origin.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-21-2015, 11:52 AM

Didn't like "Turtles in Space" in the 2003 show. It just didn't hold my interest, which is why I'm leery about it for the Nick show. But given that the show has people aboard who are faithful to the franchise, I'm excited to see what they come up with and how it's executed.

~~ABrown~~ · 10-21-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Didn't like "Turtles in Space" in the 2003 show. It just didn't hold my interest, which is why I'm leery about it for the Nick show. But given that the show has people aboard who are faithful to the franchise, I'm excited to see what they come up with and how it's executed.

When I first saw the Turtles In Space arc from the 4Kids series, I wanted it to be done because I wanted an explanation for how Shredder picked up his decapitated head and walked off. When I go back and watch the episodes again, I do find them to very enjoyable.

Cryomancer · 10-21-2015, 05:52 PM

Yeah, sure.

TMNT can go anywhere and do anything, space, time, dimensions, it's all cool.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2015, 08:48 PM

The Turtles going into space is inevitable given the Utroms/Krang/The Kraang, etc. exist in every series.

Once you bring alien brains into the mix going into space is inevitable.

*Shark_Blade* · 10-21-2015, 09:19 PM

Did OT turtles ever went to space? I've never seen an episode..

As long it doesn't drag a whole season like 4kids..oh wait Nick plans to do just that, right? *facepalm* But I guess Mikey can become "smart" when he goes outerspace.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2015, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Did OT turtles ever went to space? I've never seen an episode..

Are you being serious? They traveled to Dimension X and/or outer space in countless episodes. Not to mention all the random aliens who visited the Earth.

*Ninturtle* · 10-22-2015, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Did OT turtles ever went to space? I've never seen an episode..

As long it doesn't drag a whole season like 4kids..oh wait Nick plans to do just that, right? *facepalm* But I guess Mikey can become "smart" when he goes outerspace.

How does it drag diwn a season, and how is it facepalm worthy of them to take one of the most popular arcs among the fan base.

10-19-2015, 07:37 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,721	Do you like "Turtles in Space" stories in the comics/cartoons? One aspect of TMNT that they always do is the Turtles always travel through space and/or Dimension X in every series. 1. Mirage started it off with the Triceraton/Utrom/Fugitoid arc in #5-7 and that's where all the other series based their own Turtles in space stories from. The Turtles also revisit space in Volume 4, Tales and tons of other issues. 2. The original cartoon had the Turtles travel to Dimension X and alien planets countless times in all the various episodes. They met the Neutrinos, alien Turtle planets, tons of different alien races, Lord Dregg tried to conquer the Earth, etc. 3. The 4kids series adapted Mirage's Turtles in Space arc, and went further with it with the Battle Nexus, Triceratons invading Earth, Fast Forward sci-fi adventures, etc. 4. Archie TMNT had the Turtles travel through Dimension X to fight on Stump Asteroid, had the evil alien Malinga bug queen try to conquer Earth, and other alien/space adventures around the middle. 5. IDW TMNT had the Turtles visit Dimension X, and there's bound to be more space stuff once the Triceratons and Utroms are more explored. 6. Nick is about to start their 13-episode Turtles in Space arc in Season 4, and they also already visited Dimension X in Season 2-3. Outside of the movies, the Turtles always travel through space on adventures in every series. Do you like this sci-fi break from all the Foot Ninja, mutants, and mobsters from most of the series?

10-19-2015, 07:43 PM	#2
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I think TMNT works best when the sci-fi is in balance with the street-level. Some of their sci-fi is great, but I think the sci-fi half of the franchise is more likely to run into tedium or poor storytelling than the street-level. Tales Volume 2 and Volume 4 for examples. Volume 4 had some GREAT concepts and ideas, but poor storytelling choked a lot of it out. And Tales Volume 2 never got to finish any of its street-level story arcs (Mistress, Mystics, Gang War) because too many sci-fi tales crowded it out. But the Utroms and Triceratons are amazing concepts. One thing I wish we could have explored would be the reason why the Federation appeared human, lightyears away from Earth... was Earth a long-lost colony? A seeded planet? What? __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

10-19-2015, 10:19 PM	#4
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,137	Yes, grounded martial arts and then sci-fi heavy is something not many franchises can pull off and TMNT pulls it off without problems. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-20-2015, 03:53 PM	#10
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,224	I enjoy all of them I've seen. __________________ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Icebot7/videos Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Icebot251

10-21-2015, 10:17 AM	#11
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	Yes, I enjoyed the "Turtles in Space" stories that I've watched in the OT and 2003 series, even though I'm not a big fan of scifi tv shows set in space and outside of Earth. I guess I like that it's balanced well with the other themes of tmnt. I haven't read the comics or watched most of the 2012 cartoon, so I can't comment on those. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

10-19-2015, 09:39 PM	#3
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Yes, I do. Those arcs are a must-have for pretty much any turtleverse (though I don't think the original films could've pulled it off & I'm glad they didn't try).

10-19-2015, 10:35 PM	#5
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Suits me fine. I think I'm a little different from some in that for me, my favorite part of TMNT isn't so much the story or the scenario as it is the characters. And I think the personalities of the main characters are so strong that you can generally drop them into any type of setting, from NYC to Japan to outer space to the Old West and make it work. I think that's a huge part of why the TMNT has so much longevity and why you can tell so many different stories with them. Like it has a core concept and a basic theme but you can be really, really broad with it.

10-20-2015, 09:16 AM	#6
Editor's Note Comics Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Maine Posts: 140	As long as it's good story telling, it's fine. Take Vol. 4, it wasn't the science fiction part that made it dull, it was the pacing.

10-20-2015, 01:25 PM	#8
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	They couldn't, there was a dispute over the rights to that name. All for the best anyway, given the more grounded approach.

10-21-2015, 10:28 AM	#12
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	No. I have Star Wars for that. I prefer my turtles in NYC or any other places in the world.

10-21-2015, 11:52 AM	#14
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Didn't like "Turtles in Space" in the 2003 show. It just didn't hold my interest, which is why I'm leery about it for the Nick show. But given that the show has people aboard who are faithful to the franchise, I'm excited to see what they come up with and how it's executed. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-21-2015, 05:52 PM	#16
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Yeah, sure. TMNT can go anywhere and do anything, space, time, dimensions, it's all cool. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

10-21-2015, 08:48 PM	#17
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,721	The Turtles going into space is inevitable given the Utroms/Krang/The Kraang, etc. exist in every series. Once you bring alien brains into the mix going into space is inevitable.

10-21-2015, 09:19 PM	#18
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Did OT turtles ever went to space? I've never seen an episode.. As long it doesn't drag a whole season like 4kids..oh wait Nick plans to do just that, right? facepalm But I guess Mikey can become "smart" when he goes outerspace.