TMNT Season 3 Best Episode Tournament: In Dreams vs. The Deadly Venom

*JTH* · 10-27-2015, 02:59 PM

ROUND 1

Time to kick off another week of Round 1 of the Season 3 Tournament, thanks to everyone who has stuck around.

The Creeping Doom sadly met it's doom and was buried by Buried Secrets. Now in the first four eliminations, both Creep episodes have hit the bricks, two Donnie centric episodes have gone the way of the dodo, and three episodes have been from the Northampton arc. Buried Secrets thus became the first Northampton episode to advance to Round 2 after being 0-3 in the first three matches.

Time now for 15 vs. 18. I'm never sure about this matchup, it can always go either way. And this one looks like it will be no different. Will another Northampton episode see the light to Round 2? Or will it be just meet a deadly end?

Round 1 Polls will last 3 days and will be private polls, but of course you can still discuss who you voted for and your reasoning why.

To check out the complete up to date bracket, the link is here:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...Best%20Episode

With all that has been said, it's time to take a look at the "Tale of the Turtle Tape"!

Official Seed: #15
Where JTH seeded this episode: #4
Total Points Received: 20
Official IGN Review: 8.0/10
Current TV.com Rating: 9.1/10
Highest Rating Episode Received: #4 (Yours Truly)

Official Seed: #18
Where JTH seeded this episode: #15
Total Points Received: 16
Official IGN Review: 8.4/10
Current TV.com Rating: 9.3/10
Highest Rating Episode Received: #7 (Vicky)

Winner Faces: #2 Tale of the Yokai in Round 2

JTH's Prediction:

Spoiler:

Which episode wins in your mind, vote away. Remember...please...HAVE FUN!!!

*Vicky82* · 10-27-2015, 03:12 PM

The Deadly Venom for me, I enjoyed it more than In Dreams.

Meliwen · 10-27-2015, 03:35 PM

It's In Dreams for me. I thought that was one of the better episodes in NH and overall I had less issues with it than with Deadly Venom.

Deadly Venom fell flat for me because by this point in the season I was already feeling a little burnt out from all the Leo focus, so when the Leo-is-awesome episode came out I was already a bit predisposed not to enjoy it fully. Which isn't entirely fair for the episode, because Leo really was awesome in it and he had a lot of scenes that were great. That, and the healing hands, while it looked cool, was something that I wasn't too on board with and not too keen on how they chose to introduce it. I like it better upon rewatching it, but In Dreams was a lot more fun to watch for me, even if I was hoping for it to be more introspective than it was.

The Happy One · 10-27-2015, 06:17 PM

In Dreams!!!

I loved, loved loved In Dreams!!! I guess it was the whole layout- how they went back and forth between their dreams and it flowed almost perfectly. It was just pretty epic.

And I loved the comic style part, and the creepiness and Freddy Krueger references might've won me, too

And the fact that Don stopped breatging- even for a second scared my pants off....and ignited that Apriltello shipping hidden deep somewhere in my heart.

Deadly Venom was great because- well- Karai and Pinatello...

But In Dreams is a keeper for me

*ssjup81* · 10-27-2015, 07:00 PM

Oh man! I liked both eps, but In Dreams was hilarious and great for me, but Deadly Venom was great too.

Oh....I'm going with In Dreams. "Shut up Dave!" lol

Tarris Vaal · 10-28-2015, 04:22 AM

Oh man this is going to be another neck and neck one I think.

And not just because of Karai's arms.

I have issues with both of these eps personally. But most of them are fairly petty if I'm being honest - I didn't like the shopkeeper much from In Dreams, and Karai's snake arms design I really dont like much at all. I can deal with the healing hands if I really put my mind to it, but the weird way Karai's arms randomly move and lengthen is just a bit of a stretch.

But.... The fight between Karai and Casey was very cool. But I dont think its enough to warrant giving the vote to Venom.

Another vote to In Dreams.

*GoldMutant* · 10-29-2015, 06:01 PM

This is honestly my toughest match up I've seen thus far for the respective episodes. I'll start with In Dreams:

I'm not gonna lie, the episode is one of the best of Northampton's arc alongside Vision Quest and Within the Woods for me personally. (If I voted on the previous poll which I didn't do, consider Buried Secrets my vote though I'm mixed personally on it) I adored the dream sequences and the comic fight was a damn good tribute. Bringing forth some of the most classic horror themed actors onboard was a welcome addition. Though creative, it's faults primarily was the rushed dreams which could have been better handled and the Dream Beavers being more threatening rather than minimal conflict in the real world.

Heck, I really wanted to revise this episode as Raphael centered due to Raph needing another episode related to him this season and a lack of one in Northampton. Other than those two faults and maybe changing the plot, I honestly didn't hate the episode; the creativity for this episode is one I wish we can do more of for Nick. Then again, I love the concept of dream worlds.

Now...... Deadly Venom. I'm going to be frank on this one, it might be one of the better episodes of the season for some and ranks high, I consider it average. The concept was good and felt like a season 1 episode with Karai back into hunting the Turtles once again. It ranks among the most suspenseful and darkest episodes of the series thus far. Hell, the pineapple joke made me smile quite a bit. Then comes the questionable resolve....

Those healing hands I honestly find a serious cop out. You're telling me Splinter, a man trained in these arts of healing hides them from his family and suddenly brings them in for no good reason? It's beyond atrocious for Splinter to do that considering how much they could have used it throughout the series, but for it's sudden introduction is baffling. Look, I'm not complaining on Leo learning it because of the sense it makes, but why did Leo not learn of it originally or any of the TMNT?

I can understand if someone says it is important because of Karai in a later episode, but I compare these episodes individually when I see them alone and only criticize their plots when the season ends. The fact this resolve happened makes the whole episode a sincere disappointment with the massive set up. I vote In Dreams because even though I had issues, it is a guilty pleasure episode for me and is tons of fun.

*JTH* · 10-29-2015, 08:50 PM

Shocking how this one has turned out.

Venom was up 7 votes at one point, but people have brought In Dreams all the way back into a tie.

This will interesting to see how it turns out.

26 voters has been the number we've been getting, will we getting another voter come in?

View Poll Results: Better Episode
#15 In Dreams	13	50.00%
#18 The Deadly Venom	13	50.00%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

10-28-2015, 04:22 AM	#6
Tarris Vaal Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cullompton, Devon Posts: 505	Oh man this is going to be another neck and neck one I think. And not just because of Karai's arms. I have issues with both of these eps personally. But most of them are fairly petty if I'm being honest - I didn't like the shopkeeper much from In Dreams, and Karai's snake arms design I really dont like much at all. I can deal with the healing hands if I really put my mind to it, but the weird way Karai's arms randomly move and lengthen is just a bit of a stretch. But.... The fight between Karai and Casey was very cool. But I dont think its enough to warrant giving the vote to Venom. Another vote to In Dreams. __________________ Help animate the Sedisverse - Kickstarter at; https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...the-sedisverse

10-27-2015, 02:59 PM	#1
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	TMNT Season 3 Best Episode Tournament: In Dreams vs. The Deadly Venom ROUND 1 Time to kick off another week of Round 1 of the Season 3 Tournament, thanks to everyone who has stuck around. The Creeping Doom sadly met it's doom and was buried by Buried Secrets. Now in the first four eliminations, both Creep episodes have hit the bricks, two Donnie centric episodes have gone the way of the dodo, and three episodes have been from the Northampton arc. Buried Secrets thus became the first Northampton episode to advance to Round 2 after being 0-3 in the first three matches. Time now for 15 vs. 18. I'm never sure about this matchup, it can always go either way. And this one looks like it will be no different. Will another Northampton episode see the light to Round 2? Or will it be just meet a deadly end? Round 1 Polls will last 3 days and will be private polls, but of course you can still discuss who you voted for and your reasoning why. To check out the complete up to date bracket, the link is here: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...Best%20Episode With all that has been said, it's time to take a look at the "Tale of the Turtle Tape"! Official Seed: #15 Where JTH seeded this episode: #4 Total Points Received: 20 Official IGN Review: 8.0/10 Current TV.com Rating: 9.1/10 Highest Rating Episode Received: #4 (Yours Truly) Official Seed: #18 Where JTH seeded this episode: #15 Total Points Received: 16 Official IGN Review: 8.4/10 Current TV.com Rating: 9.3/10 Highest Rating Episode Received: #7 (Vicky) Winner Faces: #2 Tale of the Yokai in Round 2 JTH's Prediction: Spoiler: Obviously you know I'm picking In Dreams, but for a stange reason I think the result may go the other way. Deadly Venom was a weird episode for many that I don't really know where it stands to most, but I do remember the clear "Leo saves the day again!" shtick from people on here. I don't know how many still think that now. Also with the lack of support from a bunch of the Northampton episodes so far, it seems In Dreams might have a short trip as well. Personally don't want to see it because I want to see a personal favorite advance, but I think Deadly Venom will move on. #18 The Deadly Venom - 15 #15 In Dreams - 11 Which episode wins in your mind, vote away. Remember...please...HAVE FUN!!!

10-27-2015, 03:12 PM	#2
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	The Deadly Venom for me, I enjoyed it more than In Dreams. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

10-27-2015, 03:35 PM	#3
Meliwen Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 157	It's In Dreams for me. I thought that was one of the better episodes in NH and overall I had less issues with it than with Deadly Venom. Deadly Venom fell flat for me because by this point in the season I was already feeling a little burnt out from all the Leo focus, so when the Leo-is-awesome episode came out I was already a bit predisposed not to enjoy it fully. Which isn't entirely fair for the episode, because Leo really was awesome in it and he had a lot of scenes that were great. That, and the healing hands, while it looked cool, was something that I wasn't too on board with and not too keen on how they chose to introduce it. I like it better upon rewatching it, but In Dreams was a lot more fun to watch for me, even if I was hoping for it to be more introspective than it was.

10-27-2015, 06:17 PM	#4
The Happy One Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: The...Earth?? Posts: 299	In Dreams!!! I loved, loved loved In Dreams!!! I guess it was the whole layout- how they went back and forth between their dreams and it flowed almost perfectly. It was just pretty epic. And I loved the comic style part, and the creepiness and Freddy Krueger references might've won me, too And the fact that Don stopped breatging- even for a second scared my pants off....and ignited that Apriltello shipping hidden deep somewhere in my heart. Deadly Venom was great because- well- Karai and Pinatello... But In Dreams is a keeper for me

10-27-2015, 07:00 PM	#5
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	Oh man! I liked both eps, but In Dreams was hilarious and great for me, but Deadly Venom was great too. Oh....I'm going with In Dreams. "Shut up Dave!" lol

10-29-2015, 06:01 PM	#7
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	This is honestly my toughest match up I've seen thus far for the respective episodes. I'll start with In Dreams: I'm not gonna lie, the episode is one of the best of Northampton's arc alongside Vision Quest and Within the Woods for me personally. (If I voted on the previous poll which I didn't do, consider Buried Secrets my vote though I'm mixed personally on it) I adored the dream sequences and the comic fight was a damn good tribute. Bringing forth some of the most classic horror themed actors onboard was a welcome addition. Though creative, it's faults primarily was the rushed dreams which could have been better handled and the Dream Beavers being more threatening rather than minimal conflict in the real world. Heck, I really wanted to revise this episode as Raphael centered due to Raph needing another episode related to him this season and a lack of one in Northampton. Other than those two faults and maybe changing the plot, I honestly didn't hate the episode; the creativity for this episode is one I wish we can do more of for Nick. Then again, I love the concept of dream worlds. Now...... Deadly Venom. I'm going to be frank on this one, it might be one of the better episodes of the season for some and ranks high, I consider it average. The concept was good and felt like a season 1 episode with Karai back into hunting the Turtles once again. It ranks among the most suspenseful and darkest episodes of the series thus far. Hell, the pineapple joke made me smile quite a bit. Then comes the questionable resolve.... Those healing hands I honestly find a serious cop out. *You're telling me Splinter, a man trained in these arts of healing hides them from his family and suddenly brings them in for no good reason?* It's beyond atrocious for Splinter to do that considering how much they could have used it throughout the series, but for it's sudden introduction is baffling. Look, I'm not complaining on Leo learning it because of the sense it makes, but why did Leo not learn of it originally or any of the TMNT? I can understand if someone says it is important because of Karai in a later episode, but I compare these episodes individually when I see them alone and only criticize their plots when the season ends. The fact this resolve happened makes the whole episode a sincere disappointment with the massive set up. I vote In Dreams because even though I had issues, it is a guilty pleasure episode for me and is tons of fun. __________________

10-29-2015, 08:50 PM	#8
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	Shocking how this one has turned out. Venom was up 7 votes at one point, but people have brought In Dreams all the way back into a tie. This will interesting to see how it turns out. 26 voters has been the number we've been getting, will we getting another voter come in?