Who's the character to turn PDMT around

*turtlefanforever* · 12-14-2015, 07:14 AM

there's one character missing to turn BayTurtles movies around. Who is it?

*Powder* · 12-14-2015, 07:47 AM

In my opinion they're too flawed to be fixed by the mere inclusion of a certain person/creature. Granted, Bebop & Rocksteady are helping to make the sequel more appealing, but I don't necessarily think small improvements are turning things around entirely. I thought Casey Jones would do wonders for them but they've completely neutered the character, so I'm fairly sure right off the bat that it will not only not make things better, but hinder it further.

If we could go back & tinker with the first one a little bit? Having the Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki origin in place would be a big help, & those are two characters that were never referred to or seen (you could count the bald Shredder character but that namesake was not used so it's kinda up in the air).

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-14-2015, 08:00 AM

Cudley the Cowlick. Duh.

*TigerClaw* · 12-14-2015, 08:37 AM

TMNT has a huge roster of characters they can bring to live action, with Krang and the Technodrome possibly showing up in the 2nd one, maybe they can bring in Leatherhead for the 3rd.

*Bry* · 12-14-2015, 08:45 AM

Yep, Hamato Yoshi and the Oroku Saki feud is the thing that kicks it off properly and makes it all work. You need that from the very beginning. But it's too late now -- they could try to retcon that into a sequel, I guess, but it'd be really forced and awkward. IMO, the foundation's been set already and can't be improved. Unfortunately.

Oh well. Better luck next reboot.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 12-14-2015, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bry

Yep, Hamato Yoshi and the Oroku Saki feud is the thing that kicks it off properly and makes it all work. You need that from the very beginning. IMO, it's too late now -- they could try to retcon that into a sequel, I guess, but it'd be really forced and awkward. The foundation's already there and can';t be improved, unfortunately.

Oh well. Better luck next reboot.

I disagree totally. Since we're working from an IDW-like origin, the reincarnation angle could be worked into the second or third film as a revelation/flashback, and not be forced.

Character wise, Lets see the Tricertons for the third one, make them krang's foots soldiers, with the rock soldiers being his elite guard.

*Shark_Blade* · 12-14-2015, 08:59 AM

Irma.

Then the OT tmnt based movies are complete.

graphic_content · 12-14-2015, 09:36 AM

Hamato yoshi.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 12-14-2015, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by graphic_content

Hamato yoshi.

This, 100% times 1,000!

TheJ-manTurtleMan · 12-14-2015, 09:47 AM

If Eric Sacks is still in the movies, I can see him being mutated into a different character, possibly the Rat King.

graphic_content · 12-14-2015, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

This, 100% times 1,000!

Still bothers me that they wrote him out.

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Originally Posted by TheJ-manTurtleMan

If Eric Sacks is still in the movies, I can see him being mutated into a different character, possibly the Rat King.

I was hoping for that as well. If they do plan to keep him around, I think the Rat King would make total sense given his history with experimentation on Splinter himself. Plus the Turtles having to fight their own master in Movie-3 would be amazing.

*plastroncafe* · 12-14-2015, 10:05 AM

Turn around? None I can think of.
Would be amusing to see: Ninjara or Alopex.
Or maybe Lucindra.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 12-14-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Turn around? None I can think of.
Would be amusing to see: Ninjara or Alopex.
Or maybe Lucindra.

I'd LOVE to see Ninjara/Alopex, though Lucindra may be a problem, as Rick Arthur still owns her.

*Redeemer* · 12-14-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

In my opinion they're too flawed to be fixed by the mere inclusion of a certain person/creature. Granted, Bebop & Rocksteady are helping to make the sequel more appealing, but I don't necessarily think small improvements are turning things around entirely. I thought Casey Jones would do wonders for them but they've completely neutered the character, so I'm fairly sure right off the bat that it will not only not make things better, but hinder it further.

If we could go back & tinker with the first one a little bit? Having the Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki origin in place would be a big help, & those are two characters that were never referred to or seen (you could count the bald Shredder character but that namesake was not used so it's kinda up in the air).

Completely agree, the turtles and the entire trilogy its self is flawed on many fundamental aspects.

At least we will get some good jokes and what looks to be a decent movie

*IndigoErth* · 12-14-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Irma.

Beat me to making that joke.

Really though, Yoshi obviously. How can you not have Yoshi in Turtles? It makes as much sense as a horror movie with no killer and/or monster.

Spoiler:

*GoldMutant* · 12-15-2015, 12:53 PM

Venus.

In all seriousness, yeah the obvious thing is something involving Hamato Yoshi because of the stupidity. (even with his name on the book, screw that logic of the unmutated rat) The damage is done though, better luck next time.

TheJ-manTurtleMan · 12-15-2015, 06:55 PM

I would love it if they had Klunk in these movies

*Bry* · 12-15-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

I disagree totally. Since we're working from an IDW-like origin, the reincarnation angle could be worked into the second or third film as a revelation/flashback, and not be forced.

Except the IDW series had that angle from the beginning. Suddenly opening that can of worms in a sequel would almost assuredly be awkward and forced and seem like it came out of nowhere. I suppose it's possible to introduce that after the fact in an effective way, but considering that these movies can barely get their bare-bones generic action movie plots to make sense, I wouldn't bet on it.

*Xav* · 12-15-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

In all seriousness, yeah the obvious thing is something involving Hamato Yoshi because of the stupidity. (even with his name on the book, screw that logic of the unmutated rat) The damage is done though, better luck next time.

Wait what book?

DarkLightDragon · 12-16-2015, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav

Wait what book?

The book in which they learned ninjitsu. The author is named as Hamato Yoshi.

12-14-2015, 07:14 AM	#1
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Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	In my opinion they're too flawed to be fixed by the mere inclusion of a certain person/creature. Granted, Bebop & Rocksteady are helping to make the sequel more appealing, but I don't necessarily think small improvements are turning things around entirely. I thought Casey Jones would do wonders for them but they've completely neutered the character, so I'm fairly sure right off the bat that it will not only not make things better, but hinder it further. If we could go back & tinker with the first one a little bit? Having the Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki origin in place would be a big help, & those are two characters that were never referred to or seen (you could count the bald Shredder character but that namesake was not used so it's kinda up in the air).

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Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Irma. Then the OT tmnt based movies are complete.

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12-15-2015, 12:53 PM	#16
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Venus. In all seriousness, yeah the obvious thing is something involving Hamato Yoshi because of the stupidity. (even with his name on the book, screw that logic of the unmutated rat) The damage is done though, better luck next time. __________________

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TheJ-manTurtleMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 646	I would love it if they had Klunk in these movies __________________ Hey Man! It's The J-Man! "I love a little hot sauce on my pizza! I love a little hot sauce yes I dooo!"