Official Ep Discussion S4 Ep 12: Evil of Lord Dregg

[victory_angel]

Dregg is back and this time, he gets a drop on both the Turtles and Monalisa.

In this episode, Raph feels he's losing his fighting mojo as they face Lord Dregg on his home turf, The planet Sectoid 1.




Will Raph be able to pull himself together enough to take down Dregg?


Or will it be nothing but kissy face between him and Mona?

[Redworld96]

It's available now on iTunes

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I am sorry for Casey’s fans, but in this episode he was very very very stupid

[Vicky82]

Great episode.

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But I don't think Raph fans will be happy with this one but they might like it when he's enraged during the fight with Dregg

Also

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Wow I thought Raph actually decapitated Dreggs head

but it turns out

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Dregg is a Robot

[cookie jar]

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Casey Jones in this episode .
Knowing this show I wasn't surprised when it turned out Dregg is a robot.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

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Dregg is a Robot

You're not joking? Because if that's the case, does make sense in context? It's not some kind of trick?

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The character we've been seeing for half a season really is a robot?

[kelligrafie]

Why are we using spoilers in a thread about the actual episode?

I thought we'd gone beyond this silliness?

If people don't want an episode spoiling, then they shouldn't go on a thread specifically dedicated to recapping the episode.

Look I'm on here and I've got another 6 or 7 hours before I find a decent stream/upload for the episode. It'd be my own fault for seeing anything that's a massive plot reveal. I wouldn't be able to blame any of you and nobody else would be able to either.

Chillax with the spoiler tags.

[Vicky82]

Well the episode hasn't aired on Nick yet so I preferred to put under spoilers, As soon as it's aired I won't use the spoilers.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by neatoman

You're not joking? Because if that's the case, does make sense in context? It's not some kind of trick?

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The character we've been seeing for half a season really is a robot?

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CyberCubed is gonna be pissed.

[GoldMutant]

(It's called The Evil of Dregg, there's no "Lord" in the title. Sorry, personal thing that bothers me)

(sighs) Well, at least I get an early watch again. I'll keep it under spoilers, but when the episode is released, I'll rid the spoiler tag. Should be fair, right? Anyways, review for right now:

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Overall, it's mediocre. There's two plotlines going on once more, one with Don, Fugitoid, and April and another with the remaining team. Since the subplot doesn't do a whole lot outside a rescue near the climax, I'll discuss that first. You remember the sneak preview clip we got at nick.com? Well, Casey once more is spewing his "metal" phrase and when he and Leo fall, cue the bugs coming out. In the ensuing fight, Jones whacks a bug with his baseball bat at a bug, which attaches to Donatello.

Once this occurs, Don, April, and Fugitoid are partially out of the episode. Don's cure is a quick fix like Fugitoid's coma in Revenge of the Triceratons last week. After being cured, Don comes up with a plan to use the cure as pesticide where the trio break in to save the team. The spray runs out though and Don is almost eaten by Dregg. I get Raphael is often the scapegoat of the show, but Don is really getting screwed for no rhyme or reason. He didn't get a plot fully fleshed out last week and didn't learn anything. Also, April is using her powers again to assist in the rescue mission... great.

As for the main plot with how it connects to the plot, the Salamanderians return once more. Off camera, it's revealed their planet is threatened for extermination by Dregg. When Sal is presumed kidnapped, Mona fires a distress signal to the Ulixes and asks for the Turtles' help. There's some teasing from Michelangelo towards Raphael and hints of Raph going love mode. After discovering Dregg's lair, cue the above scene with the bug ambush where the three remaining Turtles, Mona, and Casey storm Dregg's base. Once arriving in awesome looking scenery, the above reason is revealed which is the cause of Raph becoming depressed.

Once this occurs, the Turtles and Casey get trapped in some kind of orange container. Thankfully, Casey does something useful by utilizing his "taser" and breaks the seal. As a result and after Leo saying Don will save them with an army of Salamanderians (sarcasm on that), the four are tossed into a pit under ownership of a new creature. Cue the subplot being inserted where the three return and the Salamanderians betrayed, and April throws a tentacle down to save the four. All of them escape with Dregg in hot pursuit; also, Armaggon's here, I barely mentioned him because he does next to nothing. He's eaten though and I doubt we'll see him again ala Star Wars.

Battle outside where Mona and Sal refuse to leave despite Don's protests and Raph still not trusting her. Mona then says "I love you" and cue Raph's mojo back. He defeats Dregg (revealed as a robot) and then that's it. Mona and Raph make up and end of episode where they're about to kiss.

That's the whole episode, it really doesn't advance the plot at all and could have been right after The Cosmic Ocean. In terms of design, Dregg's hideout looks good, but the bugs personally aren't that good. The ones when the eight first arrive remind me too much of Stockman-Fly and the others personally didn't impress me. Not the best looking episode (that'd be either Beyond the Known Universe or Journey to the Center of Mikey's Mind for me despite issues with both) but solid either way. As for plot, that's an entirely different matter.

I continuously mention family as the central Turtles theme. Sure, the action, comedy and characters are what we all enjoy primarily but it shouldn't come at the cost of the theme. A line Raph says directly destroys that; nevermind going back to an old plot too, why kill the dynamic? Mona and Raph's relationship shouldn't impact everything for their friends; I'm aware if love causes us to like the lover more than people. However, the line just doesn't sit well for me.

.... I'm going to discuss more later when the episode is actually aired, as the Mona x Raph relationship has been on my mind with how it'd play out here. Not trying to be biased to Raph as he's my favorite of the Turtles usually, but this episode isn't impressing me. As of right now, it'll be 4.5/10, it's got some fun action and designs but overall the execution just doesn't bode well personally.

[kelligrafie]

I bet the Ramona fans will feel a bit more than robbed at the end scene where it goes into freeze frame.

Cue a load of photoshopped freeze frames appearing on deviant art over the next few days.

[TigerClaw]

4 minutes til showtime.

[TigerClaw]

Here we go!

[Vicky82]

I'm glad I watched it earlier otherwise I would have missed the first few minutes because I was watching a guy putting a sword down his throat on Britain's Got Talent.

[Powder]

An otherwise conceptually awesome episode ruined by excessive shipping fodder & the universe's most villainous villains being uncharacteristically goofy. I loved parts of it, hated others. This Raph & Mona sh*t is no bueno, sorry. It was cute the first time around, now it's just over the top pandering. I can forgive the bad guys being used for comedic relief, but not that. While I did enjoy the episode overall, this is the first time I'm walking away from the TV with a bad taste in my mouth. I was at first glad to see her made into a villain, I figured it was diss to whiny fans in the way that Irma's Kraang Sub-Prime reveal was, but nooo. I was later happy she got killed, but alas, she still lives. Ugh. Anyway, I am very interested in this new take for Dregg. He was in awe at the mention of Triceratons, & then turned out to be a robot. Is he King, the missing Utrom link? Someone else with mysterious yet familiar ties? Hope to see where that goes soon enough.

[TurFlytle]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

but it turns out

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Dregg is a Robot

So, it's like Slade's robot clones, except it's the real one. TBH, if Dregg was organic, bugs living inside of him would be painful. Kind of reminds me of the villain Roach Coach from the Powerpuff Girls, which pretty much had the same gimmick.

I give the episode a 7.5.
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What was with Dregg and Armaggon this episode? They seemed... goofy. Are they turning into this arc's 87 Shredder and Krang?

The Ramona ship is getting stale, just stop with the love interests already. This is the fourth time they had Mona and Raph kiss, 3 times being at the end of their respective episode. The ship is turning into Apritello 2.0. Can we kill off Mona some time soon?

Is Dregg defeated? He was just decapitated. They didn't make any progress, so is Salamandria still doomed?

[Vicky82]

IGN review up

8.2

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/04/1...f-dregg-review

[TigerClaw]

I thought it was a good episode, the Raph and and Mona Lisa ship will continue.

[Splinter the boss]

Go, Dregg! Go, Dregg! Go, Dregg! what a shame!
Dregg is a robot, I wasn't expecting that, however I wasn't surprised either.
I can understand Mona Lisa because she was trying to save her home planet, at least she redeemed herself.

Casey, this episode, was annoying at the beginning when he said "Yes!" when he found out that Armaggon was behind the capture. Then again, he put in some good fights. Raph, and Casey in the lair was hilarious, couldn't resist laughing.

Fugitoid tried to kill Dregg, Armaggon like that, How pacifist!

Raphael in rage mode was unstoppable, haven't seen him this furious since "the good, the bad, and Casey jones", It was cool.
8/10.

[TigerClaw]

The Raph and Mona Lisa ship continues on its journey.

[Powder]

Tigerclaw continues his redundancy.