Super Bebop and Mighty Rocksteady

MW8979 · 10-06-2003, 09:21 PM

After seeing that episode again, all I have to say is: that has got to be the most ridiculous episode ever, but yet, very comical at the same time. The sheer absurdity of it all can actually make you laugh. Notable moments in this episode include: The two robots dancing with Shredder after Donatello reprograms them, Shredder and Rocksteady and Bebop falling off Channel 6 rooftop and walking away from it and Shredder talking into the camera to explain to the viewers what the mesmorizer does. Personally, I really like those moments in TMNT when the writers acknowledge that it's just a cartoon and make a character joke about it.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-07-2003, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperShredder84

Personally, I really like those moments in TMNT when the writers acknowledge that it's just a cartoon and make a character joke about it.

YES, I couldn't agree with you more. This was, for me, one of the most charming things about the original cartoon. I loved how it never took itself too seriously. It could poke fun at itself, and that is the sign of good-natured people at the helm.

This humor is something that was seriously lacking in the last few seasons. The writers took something out of the show that made it great. And when that happened, the stories suffered as a result.

"Uh, I think on our stroll down memory lane we stepped in a pothole." - Bebop, from "The Big Blow Out"

**Karpo_007** · 10-07-2003, 06:28 AM

Stories suffered? First time in a long while there was really a story, not the same formula used again and again like in the previous seasons. For me it was definetly a change for the better.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-07-2003, 06:32 AM

When I say the stories suffered, I meant they were too serious. The original cartoon was always able to balance humor with seriousness; but in the last three seasons, there was little to no humor.

Although the stories were decent, they lacked half of what made the original cartoon a success. Even Michaelangelo lost his zest when the writers took away his personality.

"Here's another show we can personally cancel!" - Bebop, from "Plan 6 from Outer Space"

**Karpo_007** · 10-07-2003, 06:38 AM

True, there wasn't much humor, but thats part of why I like it better. But I do think that if they wanted to make a serious TMNT, they should have started from the begining, not convert the comedy to action show.

*Jephael* · 10-07-2003, 07:21 AM

It's such ashame they couldn't have stuck with the way the show was in the late '80s. I was watching my "Shredder & Splintered" video last night and thought to myself, that's what the entire series should've been like!

I also enjoyed it though when the characters themselves acknowledged the fact that they weren't real.

RAPHAEL: "This wasn't in the script!"

*Deathknight* · 10-07-2003, 07:23 AM

Don't bother fighting Karpo, anything non-mirage isn't any good to him.

**Karpo_007** · 10-07-2003, 10:27 AM

Someone needs to start reading more carefully. No one was fighting, thats called discussing.

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Originally Posted by Jephael

It's such ashame they couldn't have stuck with the way the show was in the late '80s. I was watching my "Shredder & Splintered" video last night and thought to myself, that's what the entire series should've been like!

Totally agreed.

GodzFire · 10-09-2003, 07:35 AM

"Notable moments in this episode include: The two robots dancing with Shredder after Donatello reprograms them, Shredder and Rocksteady and Bebop falling off Channel 6 rooftop and walking away from it and Shredder talking into the camera to explain to the viewers what the mesmorizer does."

Those were great. I actually got the VHS of the show recently and watched it again. The part with the robots dancing made me and my dad both laugh, even when I am 20. Not all shows can do that.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-09-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GodzFire

Those were great. I actually got the VHS of the show recently and watched it again. The part with the robots dancing made me and my dad both laugh, even when I am 20. Not all shows can do that.

Exactly.

While the animation was off the wall (there seemed to be, at times, different animators working on this episode), I still got a huge kick out of it.

I still laugh when Shredder goes to use the elevator, and then he apologizes for squeezing in to make room for himself. Somehow, I just can't see Mr. Ruthless, Mr. Future Ruler of the World, being so apologetic.

I also can't help but smile while Shredder chews out Bebop and Rocksteady in this episode. The part where he addresses them as "you two stupid mutants" is funny, if only because the sight of Bebop and Rocksteady clutching each other for everything they're worth at that moment is humorous.

"Now go to the red drawer in that blue desk and bring me the yellow computer disk." - Krang, from "Super Bebop and Mighty Rocksteady"

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-09-2003, 08:58 AM

Call me crazy, but shouldn't this have waited until its turn for the stickied "Classic Ep Discussion" came?

MW8979 · 10-09-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GodzFire

Those were great. I actually got the VHS of the show recently and watched it again. The part with the robots dancing made me and my dad both laugh, even when I am 20. Not all shows can do that.

I agree with that too. That moment alone is priceless. I think the absurdity and the unexpectedness of it all just gets you.

"Stop this insanity! You're not programmed to lead!" - Shredder from "Super Bebop and Mighty Rocksteady"

10-06-2003, 09:21 PM	#1
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	Super Bebop and Mighty Rocksteady After seeing that episode again, all I have to say is: that has got to be the most ridiculous episode ever, but yet, very comical at the same time. The sheer absurdity of it all can actually make you laugh. Notable moments in this episode include: The two robots dancing with Shredder after Donatello reprograms them, Shredder and Rocksteady and Bebop falling off Channel 6 rooftop and walking away from it and Shredder talking into the camera to explain to the viewers what the mesmorizer does. Personally, I really like those moments in TMNT when the writers acknowledge that it's just a cartoon and make a character joke about it.

10-07-2003, 07:21 AM	#6
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	It's such ashame they couldn't have stuck with the way the show was in the late '80s. I was watching my "Shredder & Splintered" video last night and thought to myself, that's what the entire series should've been like! I also enjoyed it though when the characters themselves acknowledged the fact that they weren't real. RAPHAEL: "This wasn't in the script!" __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

10-07-2003, 07:23 AM	#7
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Don't bother fighting Karpo, anything non-mirage isn't any good to him. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

10-07-2003, 06:28 AM	#3
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Stories suffered? First time in a long while there was really a story, not the same formula used again and again like in the previous seasons. For me it was definetly a change for the better.

10-07-2003, 06:32 AM	#4
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	When I say the stories suffered, I meant they were too serious. The original cartoon was always able to balance humor with seriousness; but in the last three seasons, there was little to no humor. Although the stories were decent, they lacked half of what made the original cartoon a success. Even Michaelangelo lost his zest when the writers took away his personality. "Here's another show we can personally cancel!" - Bebop, from "Plan 6 from Outer Space"

10-07-2003, 06:38 AM	#5
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	True, there wasn't much humor, but thats part of why I like it better. But I do think that if they wanted to make a serious TMNT, they should have started from the begining, not convert the comedy to action show.

10-09-2003, 07:35 AM	#9
GodzFire Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sewers Posts: 292	"Notable moments in this episode include: The two robots dancing with Shredder after Donatello reprograms them, Shredder and Rocksteady and Bebop falling off Channel 6 rooftop and walking away from it and Shredder talking into the camera to explain to the viewers what the mesmorizer does." Those were great. I actually got the VHS of the show recently and watched it again. The part with the robots dancing made me and my dad both laugh, even when I am 20. Not all shows can do that.

10-09-2003, 08:58 AM	#11
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Call me crazy, but shouldn't this have waited until its turn for the stickied "Classic Ep Discussion" came?