Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 16: Broken Foot

[victory_angel]

Leo apparently hasn't learned his lesson about going off on his own as he secretly joins forces with Karai and finds himself in serious Danger.

Will Leo truly be acting on his own, or will a certain Foot Clan witch be responsible for turning him rogue?

[snake]

Pretty excited about this episode. I hope Dark Leo is more Dork Leo with him attempting to act "cool" in front of Karai and Shinigami.

[KrN]

The episode is out on iTunes! https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-seaso...s/id1134575658

[Vicky82]

Oh my god!!!!!!!!! that was intense and has to be my favorite episode so far.

Leo become a vigilante and helping Karai and Shinigami out and keeping a secret from the others. They were obviously angry when they found out.

Chompy and Ice Cream kitty don't get along and Chompy breaths fire.

Poor Donnie, he got injured by saving Mikey and Raph when the Auman Chemical plant was blown up. I loved that Mikey, Raph and Leo ran up and hugged him when he woke up.

The best funny moment has to be the 2007 movie reference that Raph said he wanted to dress up as a vigilante but got talked out of it.

Karia can cure her injuries by turning into her snake form.

[Redworld96]

Spoiler:

April: “Hurt my nerd mutant again and I will use the Dragon’s tail with you”

Yeah, that was totally a 2007 reference

[Fang Wolf]

That was good Ep.
I like new Footbots....

[ssjup81]

I'm going to assume Casey's not in this ep either.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I'm going to assume Casey's not in this ep either.

No he's not and April is a minor character in this episode.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

No he's not and April is a minor character in this episode.

At least Josh is getting a break. I always figured they leave supporting characters out for a time to give the voice actors a rest...like how we didn't have Splinter for so long.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

2007 TMNT reference! I'm sure it won't get anywhere beyond this episode, but I would love it if they had the Nightwatcher in this series.

[JTH]

Have to say, Leo does a great job recreating Shawn Michaels' entrance gear.






9.5 out of 10 for that Leo, made my day.

[GoldMutant]

Saw the episode earlier; overall Broken Foot I feel is better than last week's episode, but still possesses similar issues.

Similarly to last week, the little moments in the episode were good. The whole Mazes and Mutants part was adorable; in addition, there were nice Turtle moments. Raph mentioning Nightwatcher, Don's sacrifice and hug (though I feel it should have been Mikey), in general the small moments are well done.

Additionally, the action is also solid, good intensity and visual flare this time, but it feels slightly a step back from last week. Don't know why, maybe the April vs Shinigami duel was the highlight in City at War. Lastly, there's further plot progression with what I assume are the Foot Elite, but again it's subdued.

Unfortunately, Broken Foot carries identical flaws from last week as well. Though the action is well done, there's not that much story outside "Let's break in and cripple Shredder by doing X!" It won't surprise me if that's the new formula; it has newer ways of doing so to destroy a criminal empire if the villains are switched up each week, but there's something missing. I feel due to action taking over, there's really no story this episode besides destroying Shredder's robotic army. It doesn't do a really good job

Lastly, Dark Leo. I thought it'd be Shinigami (who I'm not huge on still) controlling him, but it's instead Leo gone rogue. The design's really good, heck the animation in general is excellent, but something feels amiss. I wish it were mentioned when the episode takes place after last week, because there's really no explanation of Leo outside the artwork for future episodes or selling merchandise. His talk with Splinter was fine, but I don't know, it feels quick.

It's solid, but could've done so much more. Maybe a little less action and more substance would've helped. I give it 7 burning Chromedomes out of 10.

[thundermaster612]

I thought Tiger Claw was gonna die or something. That lava almost hit him. Well actually it only hit the footbots around him. Same thing with Shini. Gosh darn plot armor. It also appears that Karai hasn't learned her lesson yet. I kinda want her to live with the turtles normally for a while. And Shini makes a mistake at the beginning when she calls Shredder Karai's dad. But I guess not everyone is out of that loop yet.

[pannoni1]

Pretty much what I expected featuring pretty much the "A" cast looking to see what's about to happen next, although the ending was well worth it and you can really feel Leo after he caused Don to get in trouble, and this is also where Splinter shines. I'll have to say with Shini, we got a good new "female villain" in place of Karai, who I see as a good midway between an April and Shini, leaning toward one or the other as the series has progressed, which makes this Karai one of the more interesting versions of her.

Show Grade: 7.5/10

[Huzzah]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I'm going to assume Casey's not in this ep either.

He's not, and I'm glad. The Space arc really, really made me hate his character. I didn't mind him initially, but he is by and large the most annoying version of the character. That and I could go the entire rest of the season wthout hearing him say "metal" ever again.

Also I love ICK's crown. Just saying.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Another solid episode, as always. On a side note, I'm so relieved that they didn't make "Dark Leo" an arc. 8/10 for me.

[PApagreg]

God this episode was stupid, so Karai has the great plan of crippling Shredders empire when Shredder is at his weakest but Splinter thinks it isnt a good idea because of "revenge" nevermind the fact Shredder is going after Splinters family and he will use every arsenal at his disposal.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

God this episode was stupid, so Karai has the great plan of crippling Shredders empire when Shredder is at his weakest but Splinter thinks it isnt a good idea because of "revenge" nevermind the fact Shredder is going after Splinters family and he will use every arsenal at his disposal.

Well I doubt Shredder's weak now, he's probably getting stronger now that he's getting mutated.

But Splinter is right getting revenge is bad because it will end up hurting others, poor Donnie got injured and of course Tang Shen's death in Tale of the Yokai, they were caused by revenge.

[Aaronardo]

Just like last week's ep, this one has little to no identity of its own. Things that should be a big deal are pretty much swept under the rug (Donnie's injury, which isn't brought up again until the very end of the episode, Leo going off on his own yet again).

I appreciate that they are trying to listen to us, though. There are cute, lighthearted, humorous moments in there that did get a couple laughs out of me (the Mazes & Mutants gag was probably my favorite). And the characters are getting their personalities back, but we're still not quite at that point where you can really relate to them.

I liked the Nightwatcher reference, though being a huge fan of that arc myself, I feel it would've been better as a stand-alone Raph-centric episode. But that's just me. Glad to at least know they acknowledge its existence.

However, they couldn't have hammered in the moral any harder than they did here. It got pretty annoying. Rather than doing it somewhat subtlely, the episode comes right out about five or six times saying "REVENGE IS BAD KIDS!!" and not being the least bit subtle about it. It's episodes like these that show me the days where it didn't just feel like voice actors reading off lines on a piece of paper are gone.

Something's also been bugging me for awhile -- where the hell is April's personality? Is it gone? Did it die? I remember April being a pretty fun character once upon a time. Now she's just the dues ex machina in every situation (see the very beginning of this particular episode, where they rushedly already figure out what Leo's up to because "ooh, mind powers, oooooh"). Can April's personality come back?

Can Splinter's, too? Because I get that he's the mentor/father and all that, but he used to remind me of Mr. Miyagi in that most of his humor came from his strange teachings that somehow even made sense. Now he's just, "don't do thing, bad thing is bad, now you see why bad thing is bad, cheese-sicle." I don't get it. For a show that's trying so hard to be lighthearted now, it sure isn't doing a very good job being humorous.

Mikey's "relationship" with Shinigami just hammers in that these writers probably never had an actual relationship with a girl as a teenager. I mean, maybe they did, I can't know for sure, but the way they write all these female characters as love interests for everyone, and kinda slutty at times (Karai's "charms" with Leo in this very episode), it just doesn't seem that way. Mikey and Shinigami "flirting" is just nothing short of cringey (I hate to use this word, but there really is no other way I can describe it). Renet better come back and both her and Shinigami better give Mikey a piece of their minds. Otherwise, this is just useless.

Okay, one last thing and then I'm done. The new Foot. I thought this was going to be really cool at first. But, like every other major thing in this episode, it's swept under the rug almost like it doesn't even exist. At this moment, the shock value is too high and the actual value of the show is too low, and that's just an example. Many major things happened in this episode, but there were too many. This whole show just feels like a bad episode of Family Guy now because of that. Nothing's memorable because everything's a big, memorable thing.

Yeah, this episode wasn't too good. Better than last week, but not by much. Had most of the same problems. However, I do appreciate they are at least trying to make the show better. Who knows? It might actually get back to its original levels of writing by the end of this season. We can hope.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Well I doubt Shredder's weak now, he's probably getting stronger now that he's getting mutated.

But Splinter is right getting revenge is bad because it will end up hurting others, poor Donnie got injured and of course Tang Shen's death in Tale of the Yokai, they were caused by revenge.

The point of the matter is that he is out of commission and his little money making schemes are vulnerable doesn't it make sense to destroy his foot bot factories or weapon cache and making his empire more vulnerable as for Donnie if Leo told the team then this would't have happened Karai's plan was a good plan but Mr.Seek Victory not fairness thinks its a bad idea for some reason.