Everything Great About TMNT 2014

[ZariusTwo]

[TrickOrTreater]

"Everything that's actually awful that I'm going to say is great just because."

Even the f*cking Paramount logo music.

I hope this is a parody channel.

[IndigoErth]

That guy is overly forgiving. Certainly some eye rolling defense, esp about Fox. To each their own I suppose... He needs to do the newest one that actually starred the Turtles.

Only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was yet again the whole "it's not for us, it's just for these newbie kids over here [of whom many won't be lifelong fans anyhow, or two years from now for that matter]" junk. I don't mind sharing the Turtles - after all it needs to add to its ranks new potential lifers who TMNT will still be beloved by when we're gone and pass it down from there - but I despise the continued "just a kids thing" message and trying to just shrug and take it away from the people it matters to most.

[Galactus]

Let's not be negative.

I like everything.

Y'know everything? I like it.

Y'know all movies? I like them all.

[Sabacooza]

Why can't TMNT be treated something like Star Wars in the sense that it appeals to all ages? I don't understand why TMNT has to be strictly geared towards kids because that way of thinking is very narrow minded. Why not maximize your revenue by striking that perfect balance and going after everyone? I guess because the title characters are talking teenage mutant turtles, they're automatically viewed as a joke. How ridiculous.

[Andrew NDB]

90% of what this guy likes is horrific.

[Vegita-San]

constructive negativity is nothing to be ashamed of. As much as I am not a fan of the new nick series, there IS stuff to defend there that is good.

There is NOTHING to defend with these stupid bay movies.

I think this guy is doing this channel just to troll us 'naysayers' that are disgusted with the current state of reboots and sequels. it's how people who are supposedly 'supportive' of things operate these days.


as for the rest, no one except Eastman and Laird have EVER taken TMNT seriously. Why should they?

They all form their first opinion with the 'goofy title' and then it downfalls from there. you have to introduce it to kids at a young age while they are still a bit open minded. then wait for that age to mature for anyone in hollywood to take it seriously, i think.


That, and the only version of the property that has ever had a chance to be lastingly successful IS the Fred Wolf Version. that's what sticks in everyone's mind. most never heard of the 4kids series....and I don't think the new nick series has made as much of a dent in the sub conscious as some people would like to think either.

other wise you'd hear more kids yelling booyaka sha all over the place like they did with cowabunga.


What TMNT needs these days is someone in charge with the mindsset of the IDW folks. whoever runs that series seems to know how to not only properly mix in old and new, but do it with enough of a twist that it doesn't feel goofy....

the nick series doesn't have that element and neither does the movie division.

[TurtleTitan97]

The only "great" thing about it was that it ended.

[Bry]

I haven't watched the video, but I'm just gonna assume it's 5 seconds long and consists of someone saying "Eventually it ended".

[Wildcat]

Have not seen Out of the Shadows yet but for this I agree about Shredder/Sacks. Loved the super armor and he should have remained Shredder...not reshoot with "Asian guy" because of interwebz.

And ya, Megan Fox is not THAT bad either.

[WebLurker]

While some of the comments were meant to be light-hearted, I actually agree with a lot of them. The intro and fight scenes were great, the Turtles were well-cast and acted (unique clothing is always a plus). Never understood the problem of Shredder's "Transformers" armor, since it still looked like the Shredder's costume and in the various cartoons, he's always been shown to be willing to use advanced tech alongside classic martial arts. I also thought that Megan Fox did fine with the role.

I also agree with the video that Sacks should've been the Shredder as originally planned. It would've streamlined the movie more and would've been more satisfying, since Sacks was the more developed of the two. On top of that, since Hamato Yoshi wasn't part of the story, there's no reason to have an Orouku Saki Shredder. (That said, they shoehorned Saki in as well as could be expected, all things considered, and I did like that in this movie, he looked and talked a lot like the 2012 cartoon Shredder.)

I also think the ending point that the movie was designed to appeal to the current generation more than the old-school fans is a fair one. The franchise has had so much variation in the different iterations, that there's no single interpretation that dictates what can and can't be done. Just because the first generation fans don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in the franchise.

(Now, I don't think it's an Oscar-winner and did like TMNT better, but I though it captured the spirit of the franchise pretty well and was more enjoyable than the original movie -- yes, blasphemy, I know, but hey, I've found the original movie to be less satisfying than any of the other movies and cartoons I've seen.)

[Vegita-San]

Pre-face: You are most welcome to like this movie. this is my view on the matter. Please hold off the internet pitch forks. End Pre-face.


But there is nothing TOO this movie. nothing to it in relation to turtle stuff and nothing too it if you take the turtles out of it .


There is no great acting. no great plot. no originality. no ENERGY from anyone involved on screen. they don't even have any real fights. it all lasts a few seconds in short shots and weapons use is non existent.

If you took the turtle elements out of it, it wouldn't even have enough of any material to even BE a 30 minute movie, let alone almost a two hour one and no one would have even noticed it was around. that's a cold hard fact.

It's a problem with ALL the recent reboots and sequels lately. they don't have to cater to the old fan base, and anyone who wOULD give the movie a chance is so used to bland ness, that they'll find something to like just so they won't be mean to the movies efforts.


At least that's how i see things, however bluntly it's stated. I just don't see how people can like movies like this.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

The only "great" thing about it was that it ended.

Originally Posted by Bry

I haven't watched the video, but I'm just gonna assume it's 5 seconds long and consists of someone saying "Eventually it ended".

Came here to say the same thing.
Well played!

[Autbot_Benz]

I own the 2014 movie on Dvd and I think I have watched only twice. it sits in my shelf collecting dust

[Bry]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Came here to say the same thing.
Well played!

Ha, beat to it by two hours! That's what I get for hitting "Reply" at the top before reading the thread.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

weapons use is non existent.

Aw, give a guy a little credit.



Okay, so one of the few (couple?) times they actually have him using his swords IS against metal robo battle armor and is surely the worst moment to suddenly remember that you own katanas and submit them to major damage against an opponent you can't harm with them.

[Vegita-San]

which means either the weapons where dulled and rather useless anyway, or saki had access to super strong armor material.


And, also, flying a plane somehow with your bo staff as a rudder does not = using weapons

[WebLurker]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

But there is nothing TOO this movie. nothing to it in relation to turtle stuff and nothing too it if you take the turtles out of it .

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

There is no great acting.

Could be, although you could get a lot worse.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

no great plot. no originality.

I will concede that it's not aiming higher than being a fun blockbuster

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

no ENERGY from anyone involved on screen.

I have to disagree. The Turtles, at least, had energy.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

they don't even have any real fights. it all lasts a few seconds in short shots and weapons use is non existent.

Did we watch the same movie? I will concede that the fights were not that long, but I think they where pretty good. The snow fight was great and lasted for awhile, too.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

If you took the turtle elements out of it, it wouldn't even have enough of any material to even BE a 30 minute movie, let alone almost a two hour one and no one would have even noticed it was around. that's a cold hard fact.

I don't understand what you're saying here. Of course a movie will be awful short if the main characters are cut out.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

It's a problem with ALL the recent reboots and sequels lately. they don't have to cater to the old fan base, and anyone who wOULD give the movie a chance is so used to bland ness, that they'll find something to like just so they won't be mean to the movies efforts.

Or maybe it's just not as bad as its reputation suggests?

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

At least that's how i see things, however bluntly it's stated. I just don't see how people can like movies like this.

I'm not saying it was the best of movies or the best TMNT outing, but it was fun, did the characters justice, so I don't have any reason to dislike it.

[Vegita-San]

If you cut the turtles out of this movie,

And had the same plot, same actors, same moving forward as Bay Turtles one had, would you even give this movie a second glance, even if it was entertaining somehow?

The only reason people gave this thing a chance was because it had a turtles ip on it. if it was meghan fox not as April ONeil, fighting people who happen to be ninjas......

no one would give this movie a second look because it was just so bland of...anything.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Dude, Fan4stic was a better movie than this.