Shredder inspired Coola from DBZ

BH Daimaouji · 10-22-2016, 03:08 AM

OK as may you know, i'm a DB and TMNT fan, but there's one character from DBZ that i really think Toriyama took from TMNT

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130705211233

Coola in his 5th form, just look at him, he's a galactic overlord and wears a mask that cover his face!

Your thought?

*neatoman* · 10-22-2016, 03:52 AM

Toriyama was mostly busy writing, drawing and inking a weekly comic at the time. He had very little involvement in the movies beyond character design, so it would not shock me if Cooler is something he just threw together in a few hours without much thought.

*Powder* · 10-22-2016, 04:49 AM

Hell nah. Shredder's an amalgamation of Japanese designs, from both actual history & modern fiction. There are oodles of others who resemble him, old, new, real, imaginary, etc... No relation whatsoever.

*PApagreg* · 10-22-2016, 12:13 PM

No, its more likely that Cooler was inspired by this, just like Shredder

*CyberCubed* · 10-22-2016, 01:54 PM

You do realize Shredder's helmet is just a typical shogun samurai armor, right?

BH Daimaouji · 10-22-2016, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You do realize Shredder's helmet is just a typical shogun samurai armor, right?

Nah, i like japan but i didn't knew that ^^'

Shred Head · 10-28-2016, 07:54 AM

I dont think Shredder was the inspiration for the design like others said its probably just based on Samurai armor. But I have heard the English voice actor did try to model his voice after the movie Shredders in that form because he thought it looked like Super Shredder too.

~~MontanaMax1982~~ · 11-02-2016, 11:06 AM

Very cool! i can see why since the first 3 seasons was done in Japan for TMNT the original series.

*Powder* · 11-02-2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MontanaMax1982

Very cool! i can see why since the first 3 seasons was done in Japan for TMNT the original series.

Did you bother to read the thread at all? The characters have no relation.

~~justforapic~~ · 11-02-2016, 03:34 PM

I saw Cooler's Revenge, and the only thing that looks like Shredder to me is that face mask.

*Powder* · 11-02-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

TMNT wasn't made in Japan it was created in California that is where Fred Wold Studios was. Also the show was set in New York.

Bruh, it was animated in Japan & Korea.

*Autbot_Benz* · 11-02-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Bruh, it was animated in Japan & Korea.

whoops than ignore my previous post

*CyberCubed* · 11-02-2016, 03:52 PM

All cartoons are animated in the Asian counties. Batman: TAS had almost all its episodes animated by Korea or China too.

*pferreira* · 11-03-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Bruh, it was animated in Japan & Korea.

Well if you want to be pedantic some of the first half of the fourth season was animated in Dublin and the European episodes were animated in France.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 11-03-2016, 02:48 PM

I did some research and Coola was apparently introduced in 1991 in the fifth Dragon Ball movie in Japan, it was around this time that turtle mania was high in Japan and around the world so I think its not far fetched to claim that the makers of the character saw FW Shredder's helmet and thought it would be cool for one their characters to also have a somewhat similar mask, maybe that wasn't the case but I think its certainly possible and as a fan of both tmnt and dbz, its fun to believe that they were inspired by each other.

On an unrelated note though, I think a much stronger connection to DBZ comes from the Pokemon character Mewtwo, I mean just look at the guy. His normal form looks like Frieza, his Y form looks like Kid Buu, and his X form looks like Cell. Now all we need is a Mega Mewtwo Z who looks like Beerus and we're all set.

*PApagreg* · 11-03-2016, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I did some research and Coola was apparently introduced in 1991 in the fifth Dragon Ball movie in Japan, it was around this time that turtle mania was high in Japan and around the world so I think its not far fetched to claim that the makers of the character saw FW Shredder's helmet and thought it would be cool for one their characters to also have a somewhat similar mask, maybe that wasn't the case but I think its certainly possible and as a fan of both tmnt and dbz, its fun to believe that they were inspired by each other.

Whatever helps you sleep at night champ, whatever helps you sleep at night.

BH Daimaouji · 11-27-2016, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Bruh, it was animated in Japan & Korea.

Yes, Toy, ani may shin were credited in some episodes

(I wonder why the 87's TMNT episodes are still on YT since Toei is rampaing there)

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I did some research and Coola was apparently introduced in 1991 in the fifth Dragon Ball movie in Japan, it was around this time that turtle mania was high in Japan

Cool!

*pferreira* · 12-01-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BH Daimaouji

Yes, Toy, ani may shin were credited in some episodes

(I wonder why the 87's TMNT episodes are still on YT since Toei is rampaing there)Cool!

Probably because Toei only did the first season? Look at my previous post.

10-22-2016, 03:08 AM	#1
BH Daimaouji Thug Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 56	Shredder inspired Coola from DBZ OK as may you know, i'm a DB and TMNT fan, but there's one character from DBZ that i really think Toriyama took from TMNT http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130705211233 Coola in his 5th form, just look at him, he's a galactic overlord and wears a mask that cover his face! Your thought? __________________ Fanboy of the TMNT since 1990 till 1997/1999 I roleplay as Leonardo Owned TMNT episode DVDs: 1987 German DVD box 1-3 2012 Polish DVD Owned TMNT games Famiclone Geki Kame ninja den TMNT2 TMNT TF

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PApagreg Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,828	No, its more likely that Cooler was inspired by this, just like Shredder __________________

10-28-2016, 07:54 AM	#7
Shred Head Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 341	I dont think Shredder was the inspiration for the design like others said its probably just based on Samurai armor. But I have heard the English voice actor did try to model his voice after the movie Shredders in that form because he thought it looked like Super Shredder too. __________________ "Cold steel meets hot flesh! Thats why they call me Slash!"

10-22-2016, 04:49 AM	#3
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Hell nah. Shredder's an amalgamation of Japanese designs, from both actual history & modern fiction. There are oodles of others who resemble him, old, new, real, imaginary, etc... No relation whatsoever.

10-22-2016, 01:54 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,793	You do realize Shredder's helmet is just a typical shogun samurai armor, right?

11-02-2016, 11:06 AM	#8
~~MontanaMax1982~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Anahaim, CA Posts: 26	Very cool! i can see why since the first 3 seasons was done in Japan for TMNT the original series.

11-02-2016, 03:34 PM	#10
~~justforapic~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: california Posts: 75	I saw Cooler's Revenge, and the only thing that looks like Shredder to me is that face mask.

11-02-2016, 03:52 PM	#13
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,793	All cartoons are animated in the Asian counties. Batman: TAS had almost all its episodes animated by Korea or China too.

11-03-2016, 02:48 PM	#15
FredWolfLeonardo This ***** used to be Fun Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Aotearoa New Zealand Posts: 5,370	I did some research and Coola was apparently introduced in 1991 in the fifth Dragon Ball movie in Japan, it was around this time that turtle mania was high in Japan and around the world so I think its not far fetched to claim that the makers of the character saw FW Shredder's helmet and thought it would be cool for one their characters to also have a somewhat similar mask, maybe that wasn't the case but I think its certainly possible and as a fan of both tmnt and dbz, its fun to believe that they were inspired by each other. On an unrelated note though, I think a much stronger connection to DBZ comes from the Pokemon character Mewtwo, I mean just look at the guy. His normal form looks like Frieza, his Y form looks like Kid Buu, and his X form looks like Cell. Now all we need is a Mega Mewtwo Z who looks like Beerus and we're all set.