Does this bother anyone? (Spoiler)

Shellington · 01-01-2017, 11:35 AM

Each TMNT season finale has Splinter end up in mortal peril.

Season 1 - He gets into a fight with Shredder and nearly loses his life.

Season 2 - Shredder helps the Krang invade Earth and he attacks and seriously wounds Splinter.

Season 3 - Shredder stabs Splinter in the back, and the Turtles travel in time to prevent it.

Season 4 - He loses his life in a fight with Shredder.

I don't think Splinter should die in the climax of each season. It comes off as repetitive and it makes Splinter look somewhat foolish.

Splinter the boss · 01-01-2017, 11:51 AM

What! Splinter is dead?!

*ssjup81* · 01-01-2017, 11:52 AM

The ONLY time where Splinter died was season three and this season. The other two times, he didn't and there was nothing even remotely hinting at it. With the other two, it was set up as, "How will he get out of the situation"'or "what happened to him". I personally never thought he died for season 1 or 2, especially 2 after what Mikey said when calming down Raph. Seemed like foreshadowing to me that he would survive.

People get knocked out in battle all the time.

*Vicky82* · 01-01-2017, 11:56 AM

He ain't going to die in season 5 final, he's already dead.

But anyway this time he's permanently dead, he ain't coming back but we will still see him in visions, memories ect.

Season 5 will be a new chapter for the turtles. Leo will now be the head of the family as well as leader, he will be under a lot more pressure to keep his family and friends safe from harm. His 3 brothers will be going to Leo for advice and Leo will now be doing the training.

*ssjup81* · 01-01-2017, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

He ain't going to die in season 5 final, he's already dead.

But anyway this time he's permanently dead, he ain't coming back but we will still see him in visions, memories ect.

Season 5 will be a new chapter for the turtles. Leo will now be the head of the family as well as leader, he will be under a lot more pressure to keep his family and friends safe from harm. His 3 brothers will be going to Leo for advice and Leo will now be doing the training.

Yes! So much this! I've wanted this ever since Shredder stabbed him back in season 3. I WANTED him to die and hated the fact he survived. Surprising that I'm getting what I wanted for once in this show. ^^

*neatoman* · 01-01-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellington

Each TMNT season finale has Splinter end up in mortal peril.

Season 1 - He gets into a fight with Shredder and nearly loses his life.

Season 2 - Shredder helps the Krang invade Earth and he attacks and seriously wounds Splinter.

Season 3 - Shredder stabs Splinter in the back, and the Turtles travel in time to prevent it.

Season 4 - He loses his life in a fight with Shredder.

I don't think Splinter should die in the climax of each season. It comes off as repetitive and it makes Splinter look somewhat foolish.

What's next? Erasing him from the afterlife?

*victory_angel* · 01-02-2017, 12:02 AM

Splinter will still be a presence in the Turtles lives, through their memories and their dreams.

No matter how we look at it, it's always going to end with the Turtles alone or growing up in some fashion.

At the end of OT Splinter tells the Turtles he would no longer be their Sensei because he has come to respect them as equals.

Mirage Comic, Splinter supposedly dies of a heart attack. While it's revealed that the Splinter they believed to have been their sensei was an imposter, there is also the Turtles going their separate ways as well.

Archie comic, Future Don and Raph mention that Splinter died of natural causes.

Same as it never was universe, Splinter dies protecting his remaining sons.

2003 Series ends with the Turtles hitting the age of 20. And while the story we know has come to an end, but we get this implied feeling that their adventures would continue onward. Heck as the series progresses past the 4th season, the Turtles refer to Splinter as Sensei less and father more.

With the nick show, Splinter has constantly advised his sons to rely on one another, to not let grudges divide them, to believe in the gifts they each possess. Because someday, he would be gone, and so will April and Casey and many of the other people they have come to know as friends and allies. So in the end, all the Turtles truly have is each other and that is the only thing they can depend on.

Splinter has also reminded the Turtles periodically over this season that they are coming to a point in their lives when they can no longer be children. Timeline wise the Turtles are nearly 18 if not actually hitting it. And they will be 19 next season.

But with Splinter being a consistent presence in their life, they have childishly cling to a mindset that Splinter will be there forever. And because of that, they feel they have the luxury to be eternal children.

Splinter being taken from them swiftly and brutally is the Universe giving them a swift kick in the tail to let them know that they need to become adults.

Nick can only have the Turtles be perpetual teenagers for so long, and eventually, it would have to decide if they have a continuation series that follows the Turtles into their twenties and beyond. Or if they would like to end it with the Turtles entering a new chapter of their lives. And this season does appear to end with the implied stirrings that a new chapter in the lives of the Turtles is beginning. And while nothing will ever fill the Splinter shaped void left behind, they won't let Splinter's absence consume them. They would live on together, following what Splinter has taught them, and knowing that wherever his Spirit rests, he is once again with his beloved Tang Shen and that he is proudly watching over them all.

*PApagreg* · 01-02-2017, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

But anyway this time he's permanently dead, he ain't coming back but we will still see him in visions, memories ect.

Season 5 will be a new chapter for the turtles. Leo will now be the head of the family as well as leader, he will be under a lot more pressure to keep his family and friends safe from harm. His 3 brothers will be going to Leo for advice and Leo will now be doing the training.

Where did you get that tidbit from

Ashwolf · 01-02-2017, 01:15 AM

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Where did you get that tidbit from

ummm, thats kinda a unspoken fact since he is leader of the team and the chance of splinter coming back is extremely slim if even that

*PApagreg* · 01-02-2017, 01:42 AM

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ummm, thats kinda a unspoken fact since he is leader of the team and the chance of splinter coming back is extremely slim if even that

I say the chances of Splinter coming back is 50/50

*ssjup81* · 01-02-2017, 01:47 AM

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I say the chances of Splinter coming back is 50/50

Didn't they bury his body?

*Ninjinister* · 01-02-2017, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

Didn't they bury his body?

Hamato Zombie

*ssjup81* · 01-02-2017, 04:51 AM

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Hamato Zombie

lol They'll delay eps until October to show that.

*victory_angel* · 01-02-2017, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

Didn't they bury his body?

Perhaps Splinter was cremated. Splinter will be back, but only through memories, flashbacks, and visions. Not as an actual flesh and blood person.

*Vicky82* · 01-02-2017, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Perhaps Splinter was cremated. Splinter will be back, but only through memories, flashbacks, and visions. Not as an actual flesh and blood person.

He wasn't cremated, he was buried at the farmhouse.

I'll put the pics under spoilers.

Spoiler:

*Ninjinister* · 01-02-2017, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

lol They'll delay eps until October to show that.

They will anyway.

Leofan26 · 01-02-2017, 01:41 PM

Well, after the last season final it started to bother me. Writers of this series must have really hated Splinter, why kill him or injur him every season final

I was hoping this happened sooner than later, now will only have one season of watching Leo be an official leader, boo!!

*Ninjinister* · 01-02-2017, 02:05 PM

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Writers of this series must have really hated

Why is that the common assumption when a character is the frequent subject of peril?

This is a series where since his introduction it's been clear that there's one character's single-minded pursuit to kill Hamato Yoshi and would not stop until it has been accomplished... and you think that the reason it either nearly happens or actually happens once a season is because the writers hate him?

Leofan26 · 01-02-2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Why is that the common assumption when a character is the frequent subject of peril?

This is a series where since his introduction it's been clear that there's one character's single-minded pursuit to kill Hamato Yoshi and would not stop until it has been accomplished... and you think that the reason it either nearly happens or actually happens once a season is because the writers hate him?

Just makes me wonder is all.

Splinter the boss · 01-03-2017, 02:14 PM

They don't really hate him, the goal is to create tension, drama which I enjoy.

01-01-2017, 11:35 AM	#1
Shellington Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lusaka, Zambia Posts: 106	Does this bother anyone? (Spoiler) Each TMNT season finale has Splinter end up in mortal peril. Season 1 - He gets into a fight with Shredder and nearly loses his life. Season 2 - Shredder helps the Krang invade Earth and he attacks and seriously wounds Splinter. Season 3 - Shredder stabs Splinter in the back, and the Turtles travel in time to prevent it. Season 4 - He loses his life in a fight with Shredder. I don't think Splinter should die in the climax of each season. It comes off as repetitive and it makes Splinter look somewhat foolish. __________________ "We're ninjas." Leo, the Samurai "We're mutants!" Raph, the Outsider "Technically, we're turtles." Donnie, the Nerd "And we're teenagers." Mikey, the Teenager

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Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	What! Splinter is dead?! __________________ "I am absolute, lower your head!"

01-01-2017, 11:56 AM	#4
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	He ain't going to die in season 5 final, he's already dead. But anyway this time he's permanently dead, he ain't coming back but we will still see him in visions, memories ect. Season 5 will be a new chapter for the turtles. Leo will now be the head of the family as well as leader, he will be under a lot more pressure to keep his family and friends safe from harm. His 3 brothers will be going to Leo for advice and Leo will now be doing the training. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

01-02-2017, 12:02 AM	#7
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Splinter will still be a presence in the Turtles lives, through their memories and their dreams. No matter how we look at it, it's always going to end with the Turtles alone or growing up in some fashion. At the end of OT Splinter tells the Turtles he would no longer be their Sensei because he has come to respect them as equals. Mirage Comic, Splinter supposedly dies of a heart attack. While it's revealed that the Splinter they believed to have been their sensei was an imposter, there is also the Turtles going their separate ways as well. Archie comic, Future Don and Raph mention that Splinter died of natural causes. Same as it never was universe, Splinter dies protecting his remaining sons. 2003 Series ends with the Turtles hitting the age of 20. And while the story we know has come to an end, but we get this implied feeling that their adventures would continue onward. Heck as the series progresses past the 4th season, the Turtles refer to Splinter as Sensei less and father more. With the nick show, Splinter has constantly advised his sons to rely on one another, to not let grudges divide them, to believe in the gifts they each possess. Because someday, he would be gone, and so will April and Casey and many of the other people they have come to know as friends and allies. So in the end, all the Turtles truly have is each other and that is the only thing they can depend on. Splinter has also reminded the Turtles periodically over this season that they are coming to a point in their lives when they can no longer be children. Timeline wise the Turtles are nearly 18 if not actually hitting it. And they will be 19 next season. But with Splinter being a consistent presence in their life, they have childishly cling to a mindset that Splinter will be there forever. And because of that, they feel they have the luxury to be eternal children. Splinter being taken from them swiftly and brutally is the Universe giving them a swift kick in the tail to let them know that they need to become adults. Nick can only have the Turtles be perpetual teenagers for so long, and eventually, it would have to decide if they have a continuation series that follows the Turtles into their twenties and beyond. Or if they would like to end it with the Turtles entering a new chapter of their lives. And this season does appear to end with the implied stirrings that a new chapter in the lives of the Turtles is beginning. And while nothing will ever fill the Splinter shaped void left behind, they won't let Splinter's absence consume them. They would live on together, following what Splinter has taught them, and knowing that wherever his Spirit rests, he is once again with his beloved Tang Shen and that he is proudly watching over them all. __________________

01-03-2017, 02:14 PM	#20
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	They don't really hate him, the goal is to create tension, drama which I enjoy. __________________ "I am absolute, lower your head!"

01-01-2017, 11:52 AM	#3
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	The ONLY time where Splinter died was season three and this season. The other two times, he didn't and there was nothing even remotely hinting at it. With the other two, it was set up as, "How will he get out of the situation"'or "what happened to him". I personally never thought he died for season 1 or 2, especially 2 after what Mikey said when calming down Raph. Seemed like foreshadowing to me that he would survive. People get knocked out in battle all the time.

01-02-2017, 01:41 PM	#17
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	Well, after the last season final it started to bother me. Writers of this series must have really hated Splinter, why kill him or injur him every season final I was hoping this happened sooner than later, now will only have one season of watching Leo be an official leader, boo!!