Michael Keaton reveals why he turned down returning in Batman Forever, "It sucked"

[CyberCubed]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/01/...ever-it-sucked

Oscar-nominated actor Michael Keaton had a simple reason for saying no to Batman Forever.

"It sucked," he told The Hollywood Reporter after seeing the script. After portraying the Caped Crusader in Batman and Batman Returns, both directed by Tim Burton, he voted against returning for Batman Forever, helmed by Joel Schumacher.

"I knew it was in trouble," Keaton said, "when [Schumacher] said, 'Why does everything have to be so dark?'"

I think he made the right decision.

[ToTheNines]

"Forever" was a million times better than "Returns".

[The Deadman]

There was nothing wrong with Batman Forever IMO.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

"Forever" was a million times better than "Returns".

I agree. Returns is the better movie, I guess, but Forever is more entertaining.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

There was nothing wrong with Batman Forever IMO.

This is not Two-face:



This was them trying to do a low-rent version of Jack Nicholson's Joker. I don't think the people making this movie had any idea who "Two-face" even was.

[Autbot_Benz]

I prefer the batman burton movies to the sumacher ones. Tommy Lee Jones was a horrible Two-Face and Jim Carrey was just Jim Carrey dressed as the riddler. Also Kilmer's batman was a wuss

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This is not Two-face:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EHMBQLttYZE/hqdefault.jpg

This was them trying to do a low-rent version of Jack Nicholson's Joker. I don't think the people making this movie had any idea who "Two-face" even was.

You do realize they were going for campy in the last 2 Batman flicks right?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

"Forever" was a million times better than "Returns".

Hell no. It's not even close.

[TigerClaw]

The problem with Batman Forever is how they cast Two-Face, Harvey Dent was played by Billy Dee Williams in the 1st Batman movie, He should've been Two-Face.
http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Harvey_..._Dee_Williams)

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

The problem with Batman Forever is

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

And this is why I'm a Christopher Nolan fan.

No Penguin sewer monster, or cat mouth-to-mouth, or Bat nipples, or ice puns.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

And this is why I'm a Christopher Nolan fan.

No Penguin sewer monster, or cat mouth-to-mouth, or Bat nipples, or ice puns.

What about Bat credit card

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

"Forever" was a million times better than "Returns".

This old news. Keaton did not return because Burton was replaced due to the demand of a lighter film. Of all the Batman films the only one I out right dislike is Batman Returns. Why? It was trying to hard to be dark it fell on its face and was surreal and forced. Of all the Batman films my favorite one is Batman Forever. I admit it has its flaws such as the neon color, Riddler's stupid costume and red haired wig, and not digging deep enough in the psychology with Two Face or Bruce stating "I killed them". Dick Grayson and Riddler being present and a somehat serious/somewhat fun tone made it a film I could really enjoy. There is something wrong with all of the Batman films,but the one that caters to my interest the most is Batman Forever and Batman Returns the least.

Also, in regards to Two Face, Aaron Eckhart may have been a solid Harvey Dent,but you have to admit Two Face got ten minutes and didn't feel much like Two Face. Also, both films let out Glida Dent who is a part of Two Face's story.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

And this is why I'm a Christopher Nolan fan.

No Penguin sewer monster, or cat mouth-to-mouth, or Bat nipples, or ice puns.

I'm not a huge fan of the Nolan films like most people are. I thought Bane was terrible. I thought Two-Face was also terribly used. I hated the Tumbler as opposed to an actual Batmobile. I also wasn't gaga over Ledger as the Joker. Mark Hamill still perfectly owns the character to me. The one thing I do like about the Nolan films is I feel that Bale made the best "Batman". However, I think Burton has the major edge on his version of Gotham. I know that's right in his wheelhouse though. I think Nolan's Gotham looks much too "industrialized" whereas Burton's actually looked "gothic". Danny Elfman is also incomparable from a musical standpoint but I still hate that Prince sequence in the first Burton one. Totally out of place to me and I felt that Jack's Joker was more of a "Joke" than "Joker". Much more Romero than Hamill. I love Hamill. Just my two cents.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

This old news. Keaton did not return because Burton was replaced due to the demand of a lighter film. Of all the Batman films the only one I out right dislike is Batman Returns. Why? It was trying to hard to be dark it fell on its face and was surreal and forced. Of all the Batman films my favorite one is Batman Forever. I admit it has its flaws such as the neon color, Riddler's stupid costume and red haired wig, and not digging deep enough in the psychology with Two Face or Bruce stating "I killed them". Dick Grayson and Riddler being present and a somehat serious/somewhat fun tone made it a film I could really enjoy. There is something wrong with all of the Batman films,but the one that caters to my interest the most is Batman Forever and Batman Returns the least.

We need a serious reboot of Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Dammit, we NEED a decent Robin, Riddler, Poison Ivy, Mister Freeze, and Batgirl in the cinematic Bat universe!

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

We need a serious reboot of Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Dammit, we NEED a decent Robin, Riddler, Poison Ivy, Mister Freeze, and Batgirl in the cinematic Bat universe!

Wait for Lego Batman to come out

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

We need a serious reboot of Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

Dammit, we NEED a decent Robin, Riddler, Poison Ivy, Mister Freeze, and Batgirl in the cinematic Bat universe!

Will Dick Grayson as Robin and Barbara Gordon as Batgirl see a return to cinema? I want it deadly,but I have realistic doubts it will happen. The closest we might ever get is Lego Batman 2. Mr. Freeze does get justice in film in the form of Subzero. I love that film so much both Victor Fries and Dick Grayson get prominent roles and are presented wonderfully. Barbara however is in a two second throwaway scene as Batgirl fighting a mugger. Poison Ivy might see a second shot in film in a Gotham Sirens film. Riddler I do believe will be seen in this new movie verse as DC Comics has pushed for him in both The Dark Knight Rises and a cameo in Dawn of Justice. Just how big a role? Will he be the Charlie of Charlie's Angels type character in a Gotham Sirens film? Its possible.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Will Dick Grayson as Robin and Barbara Gordon as Batgirl see a return to cinema? I want it deadly,but I have realistic doubts it will happen. The closest we might ever get is Lego Batman 2. Mr. Freeze does get justice in film in the form of Subzero. I love that film so much both Victor Fries and Dick Grayson get prominent roles and are presented wonderfully. Barbara however is in a two second throwaway scene as Batgirl fighting a mugger. Poison Ivy might see a second shot in film in a Gotham Sirens film. Riddler I do believe will be seen in this new movie verse as DC Comics has pushed for him in both The Dark Knight Rises and a cameo in Dawn of Justice. Just how big a role? Will he be the Charlie of Charlie's Angels type character in a Gotham Sirens film? Its possible.

Danny Devito's hands alone are enough reason for me to not like Returns. I think it was Rotten Tomatoes the other day that done a story on why Returns deserves the cult devotion it still maintains. I don't think it deserves all the love it gets but who am I to judge? I still love the first TMNT movie and my buddy told me just today that he recently rewatched it and found it totally cringeworthy and that he didn't think it held up at all. I thought it struck a great tone and I still do.

[sdp]

I like/dislike all 4 90s Batman live action films for different reasons they all have tons of things i don't agree is Batman and all 4 are entertaining and have neat stuff in their own right.

[Autbot_Benz]

Speaking of Batman Forever I just read Sam Raimi lobbied to direct the movie once Tim Burton left but they went with Shumacher instead. I would have loved to seen a Sam Raimi batman movie.