Recycling toys???

Relay · 10-19-2003, 01:35 PM

From the pics I've seen of the Pogo Copter and the Mutatin' Turtles, I'm starting to think Playmates is just re-doing all the of the old figures. When the new figures first came out, I was impressed by the level of detail and how much cooler they were compared to the old figures. I love the old figures, but it was great to see Playmates doing something new with the Turtles. Now, I'm not so sure Playmates is really doing anything new. Sure, most kids aren't going to know the difference, but the rest of us will. Does anybody else think Playmates needs to focus more on coming out with new stuff instead of just repainting old stuff?

Splinter · 10-19-2003, 02:20 PM

I think you're over-estimating exactly how much stuff is coming out that is just repaints and retools of old molds. Yes, there are a couple vehicles and the Mutatin' figures. But they've been retooled and repainted. And there are a lot of kids out there, that are hot on Turtles now. Some that weren't even alive when the old toys were out. Or were too young to enjoy them. So let them have their fun also.

As for focusing on more new stuff....have you seen the list of what is coming next year? As well as the pictures that have been revealed. All of the figures coming next year are new. And there are a ton of them to still be revealed according to the lists we've seen. Including some often requested figures from the new series. The only real complaint I have so far, no Baxter.

OA · 10-19-2003, 02:40 PM

Yea, I tend to agree with you on that one Splinter...there are some reissues but overall as a line, there are tons of fresh new toys coming out..I too have been VERY disappointed with the curiously absent Baxter from the line...hopefuyll that will change soon... *crosses fingers*

Relay · 10-19-2003, 03:18 PM

I know there are a lot of figures coming out that are all-new and not repaints, and I think they are awesome. There are only a few repaints from what I've seen. I just worry that Playmates may make the repaints a trend instead of just a few figures/vehicles. I hope they don't. I hope they keep churning out the high-quality, new figures that they've put out so far.

FALLEN ELDOR · 10-21-2003, 04:14 AM

i don't mind a few things, and the mutation figures where just so cool the first time, how do you really improve that?

The pogo copter and hummer are just two vehicles, i wouldn't mind them doing this with a few other things like the Flushomatic, or the pizza thrower redesigned for the foot to shoot out ninja stars, or the cadillac (looked like the nutreno (sp?), but shredder had in the toys) for like Casey or something. as long as we see new stuff along side the retooled old stuff i can live with it!

Rob_003 · 10-21-2003, 10:00 AM

I hate when toy companys do this sorta thing. I quit collecting G.I.Joe figures for this reason. Too many old 80's figure mixed with the new figures. Old vehicles repainted and thrown in with the same line. No thanks. I will have to see what they come out with. So far I will not be buying the mutation figures. I don't own the originals so I guess im just not a big fan of them. Too Transformer like to me. Does not feel Turtlish.

OA · 10-21-2003, 05:41 PM

I'll agree that some mutation figures (leo into a racecar anyone? or how bout into a dumptruck..) are kinda transformerish but the idea of "mutating" your fully grown ninja turtle into its non-ninja orignal self is pretty cool to me. Very turtlish in my opinon..

Pher · 10-21-2003, 06:29 PM

is this just me or does the splinter in the new series look exsctly like the old "movie star splinter" from a couple years back.

Splinter · 10-21-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pher

is this just me or does the splinter in the new series look exsctly like the old "movie star splinter" from a couple years back.

He does? Wha? He doesn't look anything like the 'Movie Star Splinter'.

OA · 10-21-2003, 07:21 PM

Yea, I don't really see the resemblance either...

Ninjatron · 10-21-2003, 08:49 PM

Playmates isn't doing anything that the rest of the industry doesn't do. Every toyline does that.

What you need to realize is this: Liquid plastic is pumped into 2 pieces of metal. When it's hardened, toys come out. Those two pieces of metal cost a LOT of money. Way more than you could imagine. Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of toys need to be sold just to pay it off. And that's to say nothing of the designing, packaging, marketing, and safety testing processes as well. Very expensive. Lots of money. So any time they can reuse those two peices of metal, or even just use bits of the mold, they save money. Any business that wouldn't save money when they can isn't going to be around for very long.

It's a GOOD thing. Trust me.

Sayonara.

Savanti Romero · 10-24-2003, 12:04 AM

Very good point Ninjatron. I didn't even think about that.

FALLEN ELDOR · 10-24-2003, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Splinter

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Originally Posted by Pher

is this just me or does the splinter in the new series look exsctly like the old "movie star splinter" from a couple years back.

He does? Wha? He doesn't look anything like the 'Movie Star Splinter'.

That's not the best pic to compare it to, but I'll tell you this, that is splinter's quiver without a doubt!

Rob_003 · 10-27-2003, 08:32 AM

I still much rather see brand new skulpted vehicles like the ones weve had thus far. The old vehicles reskulpted and repainted just look odd. You can tell on the pizza shooter which part was the classic toy and how the lower half is just a quick cheap mold to sit it on.

And I dislike the 4 repainted Sewer cycles with repainted Sewer sport turtles.I don't plan on picking these up.

I would like fresh new vehicles from the toon or just from some imagination.Like the current products on the shelve.
Playmates is just going the cheap route.
I love the new figures coming our way I can only hope they start working on brand new vehicles too.

Splinter · 10-27-2003, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_003

I still much rather see brand new skulpted vehicles like the ones weve had thus far. The old vehicles reskulpted and repainted just look odd. You can tell on the pizza shooter which part was the classic toy and how the lower half is just a quick cheap mold to sit it on.

And I dislike the 4 repainted Sewer cycles with repainted Sewer sport turtles.I don't plan on picking these up.

I would like fresh new vehicles from the toon or just from some imagination.Like the current products on the shelve.
Playmates is just going the cheap route.
I love the new figures coming our way I can only hope they start working on brand new vehicles too.

You don't have to buy them, you know. So why complain that they are releasing them. The new series doesn't really have the massive amount of strange vehicles that could be produced for it. So dipping back into the vaults to produce some toys for the new generation of fans is cool. Besides, like said above....molds cost a lot of money. And anytime that a toy company can get some use out of an old mold, means they can direct funds that would be used to design and cut a new mold, to improve the line.

Note also that the Sewer Cycles do use new figures. While there are some reused parts. Particularly the heads, Donny's lower legs, and Donny's arms. The bodies themselves appear to be new sculpts. Can't really tell about the upper legs. It could be new, it's hidden pretty well by the bike so hard to say.

So Playmate's isn't really being cheap. They're being ecconomical. And they're also trying to please the new generation of fans. Remember, while you may have a lot of these toys that are getting retooled and reissued, most kids don't. And even if you do, there is signifigant enough changes to the sculpts on most of them, to consider them new.

Pher · 10-27-2003, 05:09 PM

I dont really mind some of their rereleased vehicles, i never got a pogo copter, ad my humvee from the next mutation is missing alot of parts, I dont mind because many of the vehicles i got as a child were damaged, I hope they rerelese the orignal turtle fan, as when i found mine in the barn one of the axels were broken off

*mikey0* · 10-30-2003, 10:12 AM

I LIKE THE RE-MOLDS. I was not able to get them all the first time around. Playmates is being very respectful for the children. Thanks, Vintage Splinter for making that comment, you were right.

10-19-2003, 01:35 PM	#1
Relay Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cacalacky Posts: 400	Recycling toys??? From the pics I've seen of the Pogo Copter and the Mutatin' Turtles, I'm starting to think Playmates is just re-doing all the of the old figures. When the new figures first came out, I was impressed by the level of detail and how much cooler they were compared to the old figures. I love the old figures, but it was great to see Playmates doing something new with the Turtles. Now, I'm not so sure Playmates is really doing anything new. Sure, most kids aren't going to know the difference, but the rest of us will. Does anybody else think Playmates needs to focus more on coming out with new stuff instead of just repainting old stuff?

10-19-2003, 02:20 PM	#2
Splinter Radical Rat Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Splinter's Dojo Posts: 1,531	I think you're over-estimating exactly how much stuff is coming out that is just repaints and retools of old molds. Yes, there are a couple vehicles and the Mutatin' figures. But they've been retooled and repainted. And there are a lot of kids out there, that are hot on Turtles now. Some that weren't even alive when the old toys were out. Or were too young to enjoy them. So let them have their fun also. As for focusing on more new stuff....have you seen the list of what is coming next year? As well as the pictures that have been revealed. All of the figures coming next year are new. And there are a ton of them to still be revealed according to the lists we've seen. Including some often requested figures from the new series. The only real complaint I have so far, no Baxter. __________________ R.I.P. Master Splinter - Mirage Comics - May 1984 / June 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - New Episode Guide

10-19-2003, 02:40 PM	#3
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Yea, I tend to agree with you on that one Splinter...there are some reissues but overall as a line, there are tons of fresh new toys coming out..I too have been VERY disappointed with the curiously absent Baxter from the line...hopefuyll that will change soon... crosses fingers __________________

10-21-2003, 04:14 AM	#5
FALLEN ELDOR Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 298	i don't mind a few things, and the mutation figures where just so cool the first time, how do you really improve that? The pogo copter and hummer are just two vehicles, i wouldn't mind them doing this with a few other things like the Flushomatic, or the pizza thrower redesigned for the foot to shoot out ninja stars, or the cadillac (looked like the nutreno (sp?), but shredder had in the toys) for like Casey or something. as long as we see new stuff along side the retooled old stuff i can live with it! __________________ The first movie was a perfect balance between the adult comics and the children's cartoon!

10-21-2003, 05:41 PM	#7
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	I'll agree that some mutation figures (leo into a racecar anyone? or how bout into a dumptruck..) are kinda transformerish but the idea of "mutating" your fully grown ninja turtle into its non-ninja orignal self is pretty cool to me. Very turtlish in my opinon.. __________________

10-19-2003, 03:18 PM	#4
Relay Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cacalacky Posts: 400	I know there are a lot of figures coming out that are all-new and not repaints, and I think they are awesome. There are only a few repaints from what I've seen. I just worry that Playmates may make the repaints a trend instead of just a few figures/vehicles. I hope they don't. I hope they keep churning out the high-quality, new figures that they've put out so far.

10-21-2003, 10:00 AM	#6
Rob_003 Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 26	I hate when toy companys do this sorta thing. I quit collecting G.I.Joe figures for this reason. Too many old 80's figure mixed with the new figures. Old vehicles repainted and thrown in with the same line. No thanks. I will have to see what they come out with. So far I will not be buying the mutation figures. I don't own the originals so I guess im just not a big fan of them. Too Transformer like to me. Does not feel Turtlish.

10-21-2003, 06:29 PM	#8
Pher Thug Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 53	is this just me or does the splinter in the new series look exsctly like the old "movie star splinter" from a couple years back.

10-21-2003, 07:21 PM	#10
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Yea, I don't really see the resemblance either... __________________

10-21-2003, 08:49 PM	#11
Ninjatron Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 313	Playmates isn't doing anything that the rest of the industry doesn't do. Every toyline does that. What you need to realize is this: Liquid plastic is pumped into 2 pieces of metal. When it's hardened, toys come out. Those two pieces of metal cost a LOT of money. Way more than you could imagine. Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of toys need to be sold just to pay it off. And that's to say nothing of the designing, packaging, marketing, and safety testing processes as well. Very expensive. Lots of money. So any time they can reuse those two peices of metal, or even just use bits of the mold, they save money. Any business that wouldn't save money when they can isn't going to be around for very long. It's a GOOD thing. Trust me. Sayonara. __________________

10-24-2003, 12:04 AM	#12
Savanti Romero Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 600	Very good point Ninjatron. I didn't even think about that. __________________ "The sceptor has returned at last; and it's all mine!" -Savanti Romero, Vol. 1 issue 47 1992 AKA: [email protected] utromheadquarters.0catch.com

10-27-2003, 08:32 AM	#14
Rob_003 Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 26	I still much rather see brand new skulpted vehicles like the ones weve had thus far. The old vehicles reskulpted and repainted just look odd. You can tell on the pizza shooter which part was the classic toy and how the lower half is just a quick cheap mold to sit it on. And I dislike the 4 repainted Sewer cycles with repainted Sewer sport turtles.I don't plan on picking these up. I would like fresh new vehicles from the toon or just from some imagination.Like the current products on the shelve. Playmates is just going the cheap route. I love the new figures coming our way I can only hope they start working on brand new vehicles too.

10-27-2003, 05:09 PM	#16
Pher Thug Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 53	I dont really mind some of their rereleased vehicles, i never got a pogo copter, ad my humvee from the next mutation is missing alot of parts, I dont mind because many of the vehicles i got as a child were damaged, I hope they rerelese the orignal turtle fan, as when i found mine in the barn one of the axels were broken off

10-30-2003, 10:12 AM	#17
mikey0 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,755	I LIKE THE RE-MOLDS. I was not able to get them all the first time around. Playmates is being very respectful for the children. Thanks, Vintage Splinter for making that comment, you were right.