The future of TMNT toys

[tipet]

Now that the TV show is arriving to the end, how do you think it will affect to the TMNT toy market?

Could this affect to the future of the NECA and Bandai lines?

What can we expect from Playmates or TMNT in general in the next toy fair?

[Huzzah]

Multitudes of Turtle Variants to try and milk whatever they can from the line, prototypes of figures that never see the light of day, Playmates still maintaining a perpetual stranglehold on the license, NECA releasing stuff that most people won't have access to (not a dig on them,I'm glad they're trying, they obviously care more about the brand than Playmates ever will).

It'll effect Playmates but seeing as neither Figuarts or NECA are releasing things that deal with the Nick cartoon they will continue as they are. Hopefully a few more upcoming releases in the Figuarts line, preferably based on the Fred Wolf series, though I'd be cool with 90 Movie figures as well. I also all expect NECA to release scaled down versions of their quarter scale figures as exclusives this year at one of the conventions.

[Rukitron]

Maybe a filler line with designs based off the comics until we get the inevitable reboot series, hopefully with good new ideas.

[DevilSpooky]

Everyone's already jumping the gun, nothing will change yet, Playmates still has a couple waves coming that they showed last year behind closed doors, like the Usagi line and that Bebop & Rocksteady whatever, that will run them for one more year at least, Tamashii Nations still have Shredder to release, and as long as the line sells as good as it's doing so far they showed interest in doing more lines like a 1990 movie's one, NECA still has some ideias that they haven't told anyone yet, and their first runs with the franchise where higly praised so they're not done with the franchise yet, bottom line is, it's stil early to be worried about the future.

[Chris]

For the high end lines nothing will change. Figuarts line is OT based and if it sells well I imagine we'll see Bebop and Rocksteady previewed before Shredder gets released. NECA will likely continue with convention exclusives as often as they can, OT repaints of their arcade figures & 7" versions of the movie Turtles seem like natural choices plus I know plenty of people want to see their Mirage figures continue. The 1/6 lines from Mondo (Mirage inspired) and Dream EX (OT inspired) will both continue as well. I'm not sure about ThreeZero's lines, the PD line must be over after the OOTS Turtles, the Eastman line will depend on sales I guess.

The only line depends on the Nick show is Playmates. We know they have at least 3-4 more waves of the new "Tales of the TMNT" branding and, whilst season 5 may be the last Nick managed to drag season 4 out across 3 calendar years so whilst I pray we get all of season 5 this year we could still be getting new episodes in 2018 or even 2019 if they really drag things out. Plenty of time for Playmates to keep pumping out Turtle variants along with 1 or 2 fan demanded characters every now and then.

Hopefully when a new series comes along Nick can renegotiate the licensing deal with Playmates so they don't have such a vice like grip on the franchise in figure scale. I have no problem with them doing the basic line but they've proven they have no interest in doing/can't handle a collectors line so let someone else do it!

[CyberCubed]

Only Playmates is effected by the cartoons.

All the other companies making these collector figures and statues will most likely continue to do so.

[MrPliggins]

The show and Playmates line may end, leaving this new generation of fans to move on to the next big thing. TMNT as a whole may fade in popularity for a few years. The collector lines will continue, but those are for us old guys and gals. There will be another show inevitably. I think TMNT is now ingrained into pop culture. It's too much of a cash cow to let it sit for long.

I don't follow the show, comics or toys. Is the comic anywhere near the end? It seems to have had a very nice run so far judging by issue count.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by MrPliggins

I don't follow the show, comics or toys. Is the comic anywhere near the end? It seems to have had a very nice run so far judging by issue count.

The cartoon's next season will be its last, but it had a pretty strong run. The comics are firing on all cylinders, showing no signs of slowing down (except in the reprint department). Not so sure about Playmates' sales but it's probably safe to say they've been waning over the last year or so.

[Huzzah]

Nickelodeon paid too much for the property to let it sit too long. Playmates has recently acquired new properties to use as filler until their next mediocre attempt at a line, and until then they will not loos n their grip on the franchise at all.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MrPliggins

I don't follow the show, comics or toys. Is the comic anywhere near the end? It seems to have had a very nice run so far judging by issue count.

TMNT is literally IDW's best selling comic. The main series is going to reach 100 issues easily, and we're only on #65 right now. They even just launched a second TMNT ongoing for specials/mini's that take place alongside the main series.

[EddieNES]

I don't even know what I'd want out of a brand new series. They can't go dark because kids are the focus. I honestly don't even like the Nick version that much.

I guess if I had to request something, it would be a more grounded/gritty story. Kinda how Nolan rebooted batman to be somewhat possible.

Or throw a real curve ball and give Akira Toriyama the creative license!

I don't know. Hard question.

[DonnieLaForge]

The movie is over. The show is almost over. Nobody knows if a 3rd film will come and if it does it will be awhile. The market is very much oversaturated in TMNT products right now. And we are all aging past that sweet nostalgia spot of ~30 years since franchise birth. In short...I predict the bubble is about to burst.

I believe the high end lines will complete with the turtles and announced figures but wouldn't be surprised if they end there (or go dormant). Highly doubt Mondo will do a lot more figures. Not only are figures not their wheelhouse but they so far have not overdone a franchise. Just can't imagine them dwelling on TMNT past *maybe* a Shredder..even Casey seems like a stretch but I'll allow for the possibility. Certainly no April or Foots.

Those of us trying to participate in all lines of interest are approaching a 2nd house/rent payment per month on TMNT. This was nice while it lasted, and fun, and perfectly timed and gratifying...but all good things come to an end. And our wallets will thank us for it.

Sorry, there's your cynic prediction...if I'm wrong I'm wrong!

[CyberCubed]

Either way people don't realize how good we have it now. For a long time in the early and mid 2000's we had NOTHING outside of Playmates toys. When Neca first got the license and made the Mirage Turtles everyone was so shocked and happy because it was the very first time some other company was making high quality figures.

Nowadays we have so many different companies making high quality TMNT figures or statues that it's unbelieveable. Half the stuff we get today I never imagined we would get even just a few years ago. You guys should be happy you have so much to buy right now.

[tmnt transformer]

Frankly, in terms of playmates toys is concerned, I think we'll see tons and tons more turtles variants, and some odd ball characters that will be rare in the future. Similar to the Vintage and 2k3 lines before it.

[Ninjinister]

Um... I know it is super likely but I don't remember anybody confirming that it's ending after season 5....

[Candy Kappa]

iirc Ciro said he'd like the show to be 5 seasons, but I don't think there's been any confirmation that the show is over after season 5. Then again I barely frequent Nick threads since people love to spoil episodes that hasn't aired in the US yet.

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah the show ending is news to me also....

[Huzzah]

The only things that I expect to maintain some momentum is the NECA Exclusives, because that's one company that really seems passionate about the series and they want to maintain validity as they hope that eventually they can gets figures back on the shelf.

Also likely the Figuarts line, at least for a few more releases, I doubt it would ever reach the depths of its Dragonball line (though that would be amazing, because I want my Neutrinos dang gummit, and I'd buy everyone of them), but I expect them to at least check off the main characters of Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady, Krang (preferably in a walker not the android though both would be great), Splinter, Foot Soldier and April, if nothing else, basically the original 10 figures from the very first wave in 88, with the addition of Krang.

[DonnieLaForge]

^^^ Agree with all that, Huzzah. NECA's slow leak via exclusives is likely to continue. I wouldn't hold breath for anything in their quarter scale 1990 movie line beyond the 4 turtles. Could see Figuarts as the one "high/medium end" to continue a bit longer...but...they're probably just in it to ride the wave out.

Everyone's gonna hit the same problem as Playmates has always had: beyond the bros everything's a unique sculpt (if shortcuts are taken, we will whine and boycott like all faithful fanboys and inadvertently accelerate the demise), and I'm not sure this subculture is quite big enough to support a parade of unique sculpts on 2nd tier (or even 1st tier) characters. Same problem Playmates has that leads to the rinse & repeat turtles syndrome, maybe once we see others fall into that same rut there will be more empathy for Playmates.

[Huzzah]

I think at the premium price with decent sales numbers will allow some of these companies, especially the import companies to allow a bit more play room in the unique sculpts, with a staggered release. Though the larger or more unique sculpts would also see a markup which will frazzle some people. "How come I paid only 50 for this 6 inch figure, and now they expect me to pay 70 for this 8 inch figure in the same scale,? Boycotting!"

Regardless, if sales stay consistent despite fluctuations in price and scales depending on the character, some of the companies like a Figuarts may still dabble in their character selection, to provide a decent, if not all inclusive line (I mean come on Punk Frogs, they'd share a sculpt along four characters).