Third MCU Spider-Man will only happen if FFH makes at least a billion dollars.

*neatoman* · 07-09-2019, 06:50 PM

https://www.slashfilm.com/spider-man-contract/

So you guys remember remember the leak of the 2011 Spider-Man license deal (the one that stated Spidey can't be depicted as a pedophile, as if that was ever even considered). Turns out we now have some details regarding the 2015 deal.

Short version, Far From Home needs to make at least one billion dollars to ensure MCU Spidey gets to continue. It's not clear if that just means just solo movies or if the character rights would be entirely revoked, seems to me like the latter would be the case. Regardless, Sony still has the rights to make Spider-Man movies no matter what.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-09-2019, 06:55 PM

I dont mind Sony holding the rights. Theyre doing amazing with Spider-verse and Venom.

*CyberCubed* · 07-09-2019, 07:18 PM

It'll happen anyway.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-10-2019, 11:45 AM

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It'll happen anyway.

Agreed. The movie will cross the billion dollar mark.

That said, at this point, I really wouldn't be upset either way. I guess if it were up to me, I'd choose for Spider-Man to stay in the MCU for now, because they generally have a really good thing going.

But I think just having Spider-Man acknowledged and incorporated into the MCU was all I needed for the MCU to feel "real" to me. It felt so strange to me having to accept a Marvel universe in which Spider-Man didn't exist. Now that it's been done, I feel much more "at home" in the MCU, even with movies he isn't featured in.
I'm not sure if anyone else can relate to that feeling, but that's sort of where I am at.

So yeah, I'd love to see Marvel continue on with the character, because I think they're doing a good job. But I won't be upset if Sony takes him back, because there is potential there as well. I think there are some directions Sony would be willing to take the character, which Marvel might hesitate with. Darker directions, such as an adaption of Kraven's Last Hunt, or more "out there" concepts like a Spider-Man 2099 film.
Of course, the MCU isn't really shying away from taking risks with the character, but I have to believe they have more limitations than Sony might.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-10-2019, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

But I won't be upset if Sony takes him back, because there is potential there as well.

Third time's the charm? Hell no. If Sony has proven one thing it's there complete inability to not completely bungle (live-action) Spider-Man.

*Cure* · 07-10-2019, 12:02 PM

Looks like I have to wish that this movie doesn't make that much, then. I ****ing hate MCU Spider-Man.

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-10-2019, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

Looks like I have to wish that this movie doesn't make that much, then. I ****ing hate MCU Spider-Man.

What would you do in its place? Rest the character? I would rather Spider-Man 4 played out and have Jameson and Mary Jane Watson in more significant roles, actors willing to look like the comics instead of pushing diversity and my preferences making me feel bad about myself, but it is what is. At least it's not Amazing Spider-Man 2.

*ZariusTwo* · 07-10-2019, 03:41 PM

*ProphetofGanja* · 07-10-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Third time's the charm? Hell no. If Sony has proven one thing it's there complete inability to not completely bungle (live-action) Spider-Man.

This, so much.

The first MCU Spider-Man movie didn’t impress me much at all but I absolutely LOVED Far From Home. I just rewatched Into the Spider-Verse again this morning and it absolutely blows my mind how good it was, when Sony’s live-action offerings have been so sub-par. I know a lot of people loved the Tobey McGuire flicks but even as a middle schooler or however old I was when they started coming out, I always thought they were kinda lackluster. The Amazing Spider-Man movies were just boring, which is an even worse offense than just being bad.

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-10-2019, 05:42 PM

https://www.cbr.com/sam-raimi-spider...es-still-best/

I have to agree with this.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-10-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Third time's the charm? Hell no. If Sony has proven one thing it's there complete inability to not completely bungle (live-action) Spider-Man.

While the live action and animation mediums are quite different, I don't look at Sony as a studio and think "okay they can produce good animated movies but suck at live action." I see it as more of a mixed bag. They've done some things well and some things poorly.

Why is it so hard to believe that Sony could put out another movie as good as Spider-Man 2 is (or at least was at the time, if that is how you feel).
Look at how Fox put out Wolverine and The Last Stand, before turning it around with Logan or Deadpool.
Sony just had a win with Spider-Verse and I wouldn't count them out of winning again in the live action arena, just because it is a different medium. Sony themselves aren't making the art, they are producing and backing it.

But, again, MCU is the safe bet, and I'm completely happy with that.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-25-2019, 05:45 PM

Officially, #SpiderManFarFromHome* grossed $1 billion worldwide. It’s the first Spider-Man film ever to achieve that.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...-first-1226598

*neatoman* · 07-26-2019, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Officially, #SpiderManFarFromHome* grossed $1 billion worldwide. It’s the first Spider-Man film ever to achieve that.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...-first-1226598

And also the first Spider-Man movie to cross 900 million but that sounds a little less impressive...

Anyway, cool. This means we don't have to see the fifth cinematic version of Spider-Man within twenty years of the first. Or we do, in which case we'll have three unrelated film series based on the same comic going on at the same time, as if having the MCU Spider-Man and the Spider-Verse one wasn't kind of bizarre enough.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-26-2019, 08:20 AM

Go Spidey!

Man, even though the execution isn't 100% perfect for me, I still get little geek-chills when I step back and realize we are essentially five films into MCU Spider-Man. Seemed like just yesterday we thought that Spider-Man could never join the MCU. So cool.

*oldmanwinters* · 07-26-2019, 08:31 AM

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And also the first Spider-Man movie to cross 900 million but that sounds a little less impressive...

*Redeemer* · 07-26-2019, 04:14 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/TvYiZHpl.jpg

Nice

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-26-2019, 04:19 PM

Its not quite super sayian god level. Also, just like with Avengers 4: Endgame it does not exhibit inflation. Raimi for the win in the end!

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Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I dont mind Sony holding the rights. Theyre doing amazing with Spider-verse and Venom.

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Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Looks like I have to wish that this movie doesn't make that much, then. I ****ing hate MCU Spider-Man.

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~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Go Spidey! Man, even though the execution isn't 100% perfect for me, I still get little geek-chills when I step back and realize we are essentially five films into MCU Spider-Man. Seemed like just yesterday we thought that Spider-Man could never join the MCU. So cool.