Rise is Cancelled

[Autbot_Benz]

Nickandmore!
@nickandmore
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That was the TV show's finale. The second season, which was ordered in July 2018 before the show had even premiered, was apparently cut from the original 26 episodes to 13.

Susanna

@SuspiciousAnna
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Welp it?s done! It?s been a crazy two years of animating on #rottmnt and I have loved every second of it! Thank you guys so much for the constant and unwavering support!❤️ THANK YOU!!! #rottmntfinale #rottmntspoilers


ant ward
@Ward_Ant
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Hope everyone enjoyed the #rottmntfinale -Thanks for being amazing fans. Thanks to the entire crew for being amazing humans.

[Zulithe]

To the fans of rise: I'm sorry for your loss

To the rest of us: Let's hope Nick learned a lot from this experiment.

[CyberCubed]

Isn't it still getting a movie?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Rest in Peace Rise.

May you one day return in a crosssover.

[Zulithe]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Isn't it still getting a movie?

Yes, at least based on that director's tweet. Straight to Netflix unless they change plans. I'm not sure how they moved forward with the movie given the lukewarm success of the show... but I guess we'll see.

[TigerClaw]

With Rise canceled and a new animated movie coming up. I wonder if a new series will be based on that one?

[80gmrp]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

With Rise canceled and a new animated movie coming up. I wonder if a new series will be based on that one?

You raise a good point, TigerClaw. Personally, I’ll wait and see if a new series is essentially a spinoff of this upcoming movie, but it is an interesting thought all the same.

As for the main subject, good to know. Crazy as it may sound, I’m actually not sure what to think of this news. On one hand, I made all too clear that I wasn’t wild about it, even if moreso in the past, but on the other, I’m fully aware that there are some people, some of whom are good friends of mine, who did like it.

[Torterra]

Well if this is end of Rise all I can say is "It's been interesting" at first when I saw the character designs I was taken back but I say "I want to wait till I see a trailer", saw the trailer and it peaked my interest saw the first couple of episodes and I really enjoyed it. I could tell that the team wanted to try something new by making the show be somewhat of a prequel seeing how the turtles became the turtles we know and they were some ideas I wouldn't mind or would like to see come back up in a future series like the Mystic city.

Was this show everyone's cup of tea ? no, but was it interesting and had it's moments ? yes, I feel like this show is going to be the "Beware the Batman" of the turtle's franchise. In that when it first came out most people especially hard core fans sort of dismiss it and only until after a year or two after cancellation did it get some more traction to eventually people will be saying "You know what that show wasn't so bad" but that's my opinion on that. Goodbye Rise, I hope you get some justice from that Netflix's movie and I'm looking forward to where this franchise goes.

[sdp]

Brave and the Bold was loved from its first season, that's not a good comparison. Sucks the second season got cut short but did it get a decent finale at least? Hope so..

I don't know if I should maraton the show now or when the movie comes out, if it comes out, we need to ask if anything happened, perhaps it's not even a Rise movie anymore, if it is perhaps a crossover movie? It was announced way back so I don't know why it wouldn't be finished and aired already if they were killing the show.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by sdp

Brave and the Bold was loved from its first season, that's not a good comparison. Sucks the second season got cut short but did it get a decent finale at least? Hope so..

Nah it was hated in its first season but only loved in its second.

Originally Posted by Zulithe

To the rest of us: Let's hope Nick learned a lot from this experiment.

Make a TMNT that's a mix of Mirage and OT and always remember to pander to the OT crowd.

[Leo656]

I was gonna say, that comparison is seriously insulting to "Brave and the Bold". I remember a lot of trepidation but once it hit the air everybody I knew was won over by it.

Ah well. This couldn't honestly have come as a surprise to anyone.

For whatever else, at least we can move on to the inevitable Next Thing. But I'd be lying if I said that excited me, because... Nickelodeon. The next version might skew more traditional, but by this point I really have no confidence that they won't just screw it up in a different way. The next thing Nick produces for TMNT that I actually wholeheartedly enjoy, will be the very first thing.

[sdp]

Toon Zone and /co/ loved it since the first season and they were likely the biggest communities at the time, the first season is not of the same quality as every season after but it wasn't hated. The Batman on the other hand, that got undeserved and it's only now starting to be appreciated again.

[Leo656]

Oh, that's right. I always forget that when you guys say "people", you mean Internet People. No wonder that stuff so rarely reconciles with what I hear people saying in Real Life. Your "everybody says" is totally different from my "everybody says", because they're two totally different "Everybodys".

I never talked to anyone online about Brave and the Bold. I just know that people I spoke to originally were fearful it would skew too young or too comedic but were blown away by how faithful to the comics it actually was. That was the impression from the beginning and remained that way for the duration.

I personally prefer a "darker" take on Batman but they hit so much of the DCU in such a reverent fashion that I really couldn't complain about it. I'd rather have had more Justice League, but failing that B&B was equally good from a different angle.

Regardless, comparing "Rise" to B&B is pretty mean to B&B. "Aimed at a younger audience" and "more silly than the last show" doesn't make them equitable, nor does it tell the whole story. One show was ultra-faithful to its source material, the other essentially wiped itself with the source material and tried to coast on the reputation of other, better iterations to justify its own questionable ideas.

They're not the same thing.

[Turo602]

I'm actually starting to feel nostalgic for The Batman myself these days. Now that Legion of Superheroes of all shows got a blu-ray release along with Teen Titans, I wish they'd do the same for The Batman.

As for Rise, I'm happy to see it end. All of the animated shows went over a 100 episodes which is a good ass run for any TV show, and this along with Next Mutation are the only failures, which says a lot. Hopefully they learn from this and move onto something better, which I highly doubt. But whatever it is, they should definitely wait it out and make people miss TMNT for a bit, unlike how thirsty they were to move on with Rise before anyone could even forget about the 2012 show.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Regardless, comparing "Rise" to B&B is pretty mean to B&B. "Aimed at a younger audience" and "more silly than the last show" doesn't make them equitable, nor does it tell the whole story. One show was ultra-faithful to its source material, the other essentially wiped itself with the source material and tried to coast on the reputation of other, better iterations to justify its own questionable ideas.

They're not the same thing.

Its kinda funny because the later sentence you said could be said to the OT especially the "wiped itself with the source material" since the original creator for Mirage hated it.

[sdp]

Have no doubt that the lesson Viacom learned from this is "we need more OT influence or fans don't like it". We're in for some dark times.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Oh, that's right. I always forget that when you guys say "people", you mean Internet People. No wonder that stuff so rarely reconciles with what I hear people saying in Real Life. Your "everybody says" is totally different from my "everybody says", because they're two totally different "Everybodys".

lol serious? real life people weren't watching cartoons in 2008, this was before geek culture was cool

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Its kinda funny because the later sentence you said could be said to the OT especially the "wiped itself with the source material" since the original creator for Mirage hated it.

The difference is, there really wasn't that much source material at the time and they were strictly trying to sell toys. Regardless of how Peter Laird or Kevin Eastman felt about it, they sold out and now the original cartoon is just as much part of the franchise's roots as the original comics.

Originally Posted by sdp

lol serious? real life people weren't watching cartoons in 2008, this was before geek culture was cool

They did, they just never openly admitted it.

[Leo656]

It's also generally understood that...

1. NJ people are a lot cooler than most.
2. I run with a more sophisticated crowd than most'a you hepcats do. "Probably".

Regardless, I always put more stock in what living, breathing human being say when I'm in the same physical space as them. I disregard what faceless people in Internet Land type about most things, as so much of it is trying to get in the wittiest zinger or earn "upvotes" or whatever. But let the record show, when I speak anecdotally, I'm going by what people have said to me in person, not what they've typed, unless I specifically state otherwise.

In my experience, "internet fandom" has one opinion on any given topic, "Real Life" people have another opinion, and they're generally not the same thing. Maybe that's different for others, but that's always been my experience.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by sdp

Have no doubt that the lesson Viacom learned from this is "we need more OT influence or fans don't like it". We're in for some dark times.

This. Sadly, this. I'm already in the acceptance period.

I love Rise, largely for how different it was. Different is welcome at this point, I'm tired of the same old sh*t.

Now, expect nothing but literal OT pandering for a decade straight. Congrats, manbabies, you get to suckle corporate teet to the grave.

[Andrew NDB]

"Rise of the TMNT"? What is this? Is this something other than the pilot episode of 2012?