Terminator Anime Series Coming To Netflix

*ZariusTwo* · 02-26-2021, 03:46 PM

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Netflix will team up with Skydance on the series, which will be executive produced and run by “The Batman” co-writer Mattson Tomlin. Skydance holds the rights to the James Cameron-created franchise, which launched with 1984’s “The Terminator” and most recently saw the theatrical release of “Terminator: Dark Fate” in 2019.

https://www.thewrap.com/terminator-a...ks-at-netflix/

*neatoman* · 02-26-2021, 04:22 PM

Oh my god! Let this franchise die already! The first movie depicts a pre-destination paradox, there should not be any room for sequels, yet they just won't stop. Most of them even repeat the same premise, "Robot assassin goes back in time to kill an important figure", how many times can you beat this dead horse? To make things worse, it seems like the last three were all made with the intention of ignoring all but the first two movies, as if any of them were actually better than the previous...

*newfan* · 02-26-2021, 04:29 PM

Terminator doesn't really appeal to me as an animated series.

~~AquaParade~~ · 02-26-2021, 04:43 PM

If it's high quality animation, this sounds rad to me. I'm not in love with the franchise, but I appreciate the world enough that I'd hunker down for a dark, well animated mini-series.

You can't expect people to let things die when they still make more money than original ip. Hopefully it can find a meaningful way to exist.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-26-2021, 06:39 PM

I mean... eh? Maybe? Like, how is this gonna be any different from the last three failures, though, aside from the obvious?

After T2, there was no reason to ever revisit that universe again, and every time they do it they sh*t the bed. And then they don't even bother to clean the sheet, they just stick a new sheet on top of it and sh*t the bed again.

Story was told, nothing new or interesting can be said or done. That's why they just keep going back and retconning the GOOD movies out of existence.

I mean... if it's about the Future War, then maybe. That's the only ground left unexplored. I can kinda see them going there, since I'm sure that cost is the entire reason they don't go there in live action, so doing it in animation is a nice compromise, I guess. But THAT story more than any that's left to tell is what deserves its own movie, not an animated series. So it would still be a letdown.

I don't know. We'll see. It's almost certainly only going to be one of two things: Another retcon story, which is both unwanted and redundant, OR a Future War series, which deserves its own film and not this. I don't really see what else they can possibly do, and neither of those ideas sounds all that compelling.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-26-2021, 11:30 PM

If its another crap about time travel, they can shove it up their ass and send to the sun.

*Wildcat* · 02-26-2021, 11:54 PM

Ya live action Future War would better but whatever this is it’ll probably be pretty cool. They can basically do whatever idea they want.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-27-2021, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumac

If its another crap about time travel, they can shove it up their ass and send to the sun.

This is a rare case where I think someone said what I was trying to say in a much better way than I did.

Also, holy sh*t but does EVERYTHING have to be an anime, now? Like I know it's "a thing", and some of it's alright, but c'mon already. I understand "trends" but when did "trend" come to mean "The only thing anyone's allowed to do"?

*ZariusTwo* · 02-27-2021, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

Ya live action Future War would better

We got that with Salvation, and well...

~~Leo656~~ · 02-27-2021, 02:22 AM

Yeah, but apparently people were REALLY angry that there weren't any laser beams, because T2 promised them laser beams.

Add laser beams, maybe it will satisfy, we don't know until they try.

EDIT: Sh*t, man, that was almost a haiku.

I'unno, I liked it fine. Could've been better, could've been WAY worse (if that aborted original ending is to be believed). I wouldn't say the entire idea of the Future War movie is flawed just because they took one halfhearted swing at it and whiffed.

With all the movies after it, they went in swinging with both fists and completely missed the mark each time. So it's safe to say that THOSE ideas were bad and don't need to be revisited. But I think if they tried the Future War scenario again people would give them a Mulligan.

*Wildcat* · 02-27-2021, 03:35 AM

Well I’ve said many times I liked Salvation.

It was actually creative. That Marcus was supposed to be Skynets agent and lure John in but he sided with the good guys.

I know about the rewrites and alternate ending but it still turned out pretty good. The various terminator models were cool too.

The lasers/T2 argument always seemed stupid to me. Those were just brief glimpses. Doesn’t mean it could only look that 1 very specific way.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-27-2021, 03:48 AM

Plus, one could assume that "The Future" had changed after the events of T1 and T2. I mean, we know they did.

Perhaps pre-T2, lasers were a thing in the future, and post-T2, what Sarah and John did created a ripple effect that led to a different, lasers-free future. One where Skynet still existed and still took over the world, but did so with regular bullets instead of lasers.

I'll be honest, man... I didn't even really catch that gripe until someone pointed it out to me. And I've seen T2 like a hundred and something times, and I had a lot of thoughts about "Salvation" as I was watching it, but not once did I stop and think "Hey, wait... ain't they s'posed to be shooting each other with lasers and not bullets?"

I think I was way more concerned with trying to piece together in my head how that meth'ed up crazy/whiny guy who played John in T3 somehow turned into Christian Bale between movies. The only link between the two "John Connors" was that Bale himself was quite obviously and noticeably coked off his tits in "Salvation", but otherwise they had zero in common. Perhaps that's a secret character trait we don't know about but is quietly essential for "John Connor": Ed Furlong, Whatsisname from T3, and then Bale... all of them high as a f*cking kite on blow the whole time. That CAN'T just be coincidence. That's my new headcanon: John Connor is a secret coke addict and the movies just don't mention it out loud.

But yeah there were a few things about "Salvation" that bothered me, but the lasers thing wasn't one of them. I hear about it a lot, and I just think that's kinda silly.

*Wildcat* · 02-27-2021, 04:33 AM

Ya I didn’t notice either until I read it in forums. Also that Skynet should not have big robots or cycle bots because they didn’t in those brief clips. Really dumb.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-27-2021, 08:53 AM

For me the problem of Salvation, aside from dumb story, which relies hard on convenient coincidences and just being mind bogglingly boring, was abundance of dumb robots, like mototerminators, sea things and, of course, "we totally don't rip Bayformers" Harvester.

In any case I expected to see Hunter Killer and their variations from previous movies, not a terminator skeleton merged with motorcycle and having a convenient USB port or a giant robot handling people.

Stylistically I could accept its being different from future war flashbacks in previous movies, no matter, how much , I wanted to see movie based around this aesthetic, but together with rest problems it soured me hard on T4.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-27-2021, 04:26 PM

I mean, I'unno, I thought SOME of that stuff was creative, at least. I mean, some of it was weird, but at least it wasn't the exact same thing for the fourth movie in a row.

I keep meaning to watch that again. One'a these days.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-27-2021, 05:46 PM

Also, I expected to see army of Terminators marching at the humans.
Something like this:

Spoiler:

Not meager 4 terminators and some assorted crap.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-27-2021, 06:00 PM

I wish someone would try to adapt "The Burning Earth" or some of the other NOW Comics "Terminator" stories.

For an entire generation of fans before T2 existed, those comics were the only Terminator "sequel" that existed, and what the next step in franchise was. All that stuff was 100% about stuff in the future with humans fighting Skynet, and a lot of it was really cool and interesting.

*IMJ* · 02-27-2021, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac

For me the problem of Salvation, aside from dumb story, which relies hard on convenient coincidences and just being mind bogglingly boring, was abundance of dumb robots, like mototerminators, sea things and, of course, "we totally don't rip Bayformers" Harvester.

In any case I expected to see Hunter Killer and their variations from previous movies, not a terminator skeleton merged with motorcycle and having a convenient USB port or a giant robot handling people.

Stylistically I could accept its being different from future war flashbacks in previous movies, no matter, how much , I wanted to see movie based around this aesthetic, but together with rest problems it soured me hard on T4.

I liked it - I really did. Not saying it was amazing, but Christian Bale could've carried the franchise and let's face it - it was the most honest way forward since Terminator 3, which I thought was pretty good too, to be honest.

They could've made another trilogy out of Salvation and bare minimum it would've carried the franchise as a solid narrative somehow. Those other Terminator flicks? Didn't even waste my time with them.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-28-2021, 05:42 AM

One of the things I didn't like about T4 was Bale.

I just can't stomach his performance in all movies, but Equilibrium. It feels like he plays the same character in all his movies and his performance of the "man of the edge" annoys me.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-28-2021, 05:45 AM

I would've preferred them to just continue T3 into T4 with Nick Stahl and Claire Danes and not Bale and Bryce Dallas Howard. There would have at least been that little bit of a daisy chain making it seem like T1-3 had all led us to that.

02-26-2021, 11:54 PM	#7
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Ya live action Future War would better but whatever this is it’ll probably be pretty cool. They can basically do whatever idea they want. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

02-27-2021, 03:35 AM	#11
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Well I’ve said many times I liked Salvation. It was actually creative. That Marcus was supposed to be Skynets agent and lure John in but he sided with the good guys. I know about the rewrites and alternate ending but it still turned out pretty good. The various terminator models were cool too. The lasers/T2 argument always seemed stupid to me. Those were just brief glimpses. Doesn’t mean it could only look that 1 very specific way. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

02-27-2021, 04:33 AM	#13
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Ya I didn’t notice either until I read it in forums. Also that Skynet should not have big robots or cycle bots because they didn’t in those brief clips. Really dumb. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

02-28-2021, 05:45 AM	#20
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,558	I would've preferred them to just continue T3 into T4 with Nick Stahl and Claire Danes and not Bale and Bryce Dallas Howard. There would have at least been that little bit of a daisy chain making it seem like T1-3 had all led us to that. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-26-2021, 04:29 PM	#3
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	Terminator doesn't really appeal to me as an animated series.

02-26-2021, 04:43 PM	#4
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	If it's high quality animation, this sounds rad to me. I'm not in love with the franchise, but I appreciate the world enough that I'd hunker down for a dark, well animated mini-series. You can't expect people to let things die when they still make more money than original ip. Hopefully it can find a meaningful way to exist.

02-26-2021, 06:39 PM	#5
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I mean... eh? Maybe? Like, how is this gonna be any different from the last three failures, though, aside from the obvious? After T2, there was no reason to ever revisit that universe again, and every time they do it they sht the bed. And then they don't even bother to clean the sheet, they just stick a new sheet on top of it and sht the bed again. Story was told, nothing new or interesting can be said or done. That's why they just keep going back and retconning the GOOD movies out of existence. I mean... if it's about the Future War, then maybe. That's the only ground left unexplored. I can kinda see them going there, since I'm sure that cost is the entire reason they don't go there in live action, so doing it in animation is a nice compromise, I guess. But THAT story more than any that's left to tell is what deserves its own movie, not an animated series. So it would still be a letdown. I don't know. We'll see. It's almost certainly only going to be one of two things: Another retcon story, which is both unwanted and redundant, OR a Future War series, which deserves its own film and not this. I don't really see what else they can possibly do, and neither of those ideas sounds all that compelling.

02-26-2021, 11:30 PM	#6
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	If its another crap about time travel, they can shove it up their ass and send to the sun.

02-27-2021, 02:22 AM	#10
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, but apparently people were REALLY angry that there weren't any laser beams, because T2 promised them laser beams. Add laser beams, maybe it will satisfy, we don't know until they try. EDIT: Sh*t, man, that was almost a haiku. I'unno, I liked it fine. Could've been better, could've been WAY worse (if that aborted original ending is to be believed). I wouldn't say the entire idea of the Future War movie is flawed just because they took one halfhearted swing at it and whiffed. With all the movies after it, they went in swinging with both fists and completely missed the mark each time. So it's safe to say that THOSE ideas were bad and don't need to be revisited. But I think if they tried the Future War scenario again people would give them a Mulligan.

02-27-2021, 03:48 AM	#12
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Plus, one could assume that "The Future" had changed after the events of T1 and T2. I mean, we know they did. Perhaps pre-T2, lasers were a thing in the future, and post-T2, what Sarah and John did created a ripple effect that led to a different, lasers-free future. One where Skynet still existed and still took over the world, but did so with regular bullets instead of lasers. I'll be honest, man... I didn't even really catch that gripe until someone pointed it out to me. And I've seen T2 like a hundred and something times, and I had a lot of thoughts about "Salvation" as I was watching it, but not once did I stop and think "Hey, wait... ain't they s'posed to be shooting each other with lasers and not bullets?" I think I was way more concerned with trying to piece together in my head how that meth'ed up crazy/whiny guy who played John in T3 somehow turned into Christian Bale between movies. The only link between the two "John Connors" was that Bale himself was quite obviously and noticeably coked off his tits in "Salvation", but otherwise they had zero in common. Perhaps that's a secret character trait we don't know about but is quietly essential for "John Connor": Ed Furlong, Whatsisname from T3, and then Bale... all of them high as a f*cking kite on blow the whole time. That CAN'T just be coincidence. That's my new headcanon: John Connor is a secret coke addict and the movies just don't mention it out loud. But yeah there were a few things about "Salvation" that bothered me, but the lasers thing wasn't one of them. I hear about it a lot, and I just think that's kinda silly.

02-27-2021, 08:53 AM	#14
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	For me the problem of Salvation, aside from dumb story, which relies hard on convenient coincidences and just being mind bogglingly boring, was abundance of dumb robots, like mototerminators, sea things and, of course, "we totally don't rip Bayformers" Harvester. In any case I expected to see Hunter Killer and their variations from previous movies, not a terminator skeleton merged with motorcycle and having a convenient USB port or a giant robot handling people. Stylistically I could accept its being different from future war flashbacks in previous movies, no matter, how much , I wanted to see movie based around this aesthetic, but together with rest problems it soured me hard on T4.

02-27-2021, 04:26 PM	#15
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I mean, I'unno, I thought SOME of that stuff was creative, at least. I mean, some of it was weird, but at least it wasn't the exact same thing for the fourth movie in a row. I keep meaning to watch that again. One'a these days.

02-27-2021, 05:46 PM	#16
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	Also, I expected to see army of Terminators marching at the humans. Something like this: Spoiler: Not meager 4 terminators and some assorted crap.

02-27-2021, 06:00 PM	#17
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I wish someone would try to adapt "The Burning Earth" or some of the other NOW Comics "Terminator" stories. For an entire generation of fans before T2 existed, those comics were the only Terminator "sequel" that existed, and what the next step in franchise was. All that stuff was 100% about stuff in the future with humans fighting Skynet, and a lot of it was really cool and interesting.

02-28-2021, 05:42 AM	#19
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	One of the things I didn't like about T4 was Bale. I just can't stomach his performance in all movies, but Equilibrium. It feels like he plays the same character in all his movies and his performance of the "man of the edge" annoys me.