Republican Southern Strategy

[robertfiduciary]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Just curious, how many are you familiar with this.

Have you heard of the Southern strategy? What do you know about it?

Thanks!

[Powder]

Why did you join a TMNT forum to talk about nothing other than contentious political garbage?

[robertfiduciary]

Because no one really talks about the comics anymore? Or if they do, it just slips into "contentious political garbage?"

(And I happen to like the current run of the IDW comics, thanks. And I don't particularly want to sully that joy with having to defend / explain it to anyone).

And, because I see a lot of what I believe is misinformation shared on this website?

Because I'm curious? Because I'm bored?

Because I want to learn more?

Because I have a right to? The same right that you do?

Did you read the article from the link I posted?

Are / were you familiar with the Republican's Southern strategy?

[Powder]

So then again, if there's no TMNT discussion on the TMNT site, what incentive do you have to discuss this kind of thing here of all places, especially if you acknowledge that it is both unpleasant & riddled with misinformation?

[robertfiduciary]

I believe I mentioned the curiousity?

And also, the boredom?

I could ask you the same thing. What are you getting out of it?

(And please don't think I've not noticied you haven't answered the question from my original post!).

[Powder]

You sure like the question mark. I'm not getting anything out of any of this. This place has gone to hell, & it's largely because people can't stop engaging in BS over politics. At least TRY to contribute to the sites intended purpose. If you're not here to talk turtles, then you're probably here to stir up trouble. The guys you came here to ruffle the feathers of, at least they came here to talk turtles, & did so, for many years. I don't care for their views either, but you're not helping.

[robertfiduciary]

And you enjoy the period. Pretty cool... how we all... get to... use... whatever punctuation... we enjoy.

Look: I posted here because I've read the site (it seems to be one of the only Turtle sites I could find) for a while.

And I feel that a few of you are... well, I'll be polite and say maybe a bit "misinformed." Which is fine! How else can we learn? How else can we grow? (Damn, more question marks!)

I majored in Poli Sci in college. I've worked on several political campaigns, from state reps all the way up to President.

I've (briefly) met two (now) former Presidents.

My older brother is pretty high up in an organization run by the US Government. Which is cool. It's gotten me all kinds of "VIP" tours around Washington DC over the years.

I have a small American flag framed on my bedroom wall. Why? Because it flew on a mission to freaking space (and my brother is rad when it comes to gift giving).

My brother-in-law is one of the highest ranking (maybe the highest?) civilian employee in one the divisions of the U.S. Armed Forces.

You know the Generals who do interviews for Cable News talk shows? Yeah, those are his bosses (I've heard some great stories).

Anyway, I've been passionate, and involved in politics MUCH longer than the 2016 Presidential Campaign - Present.

And I see stuff on this website, stuff that's posted with alarming regularity, that disturbs me.

To quote Captain America. "I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from."

(Sidenote: Am I right in understanding that one of the people who posts regularly on here is from Russia? And he continues to post divisive, relatively one-sided content that looks to a semi-trained eye like mine that it just might be done in order to sow division among American civilians? Do I have that right?).

So, yeah. That's why I've posted what I did.

Thanks for reading. And, please. I'd really, really appreciate if you read that Wikipedia article on the Southern Strategy.

Some of you have been active participants in it, and you don't even know it.

[Powder]

You realize all that you've accomplished just makes it that much more sad you're here, right? With respect to the topic at hand, I'm sure we're all surprised that a body of government is biased & corrupt.

[robertfiduciary]

I appreciate the suggestion, thanks. I'll take it under advisement.

Although, I really don't know what there is to talk Turtles about, at least right now. I have zero interest in defending my feelings about the IDW book, and you know what?

Some hate it, I love it.

And that's fine!

Not everything is made for every person. And I'm certainly not going to convince someone to like something they don't. So why should I try?

As for the political stuff, if I don't at least try to "steer the ship" in what I believe is a better direction, then what's the point of any of this?

Living, I mean. What's the point of living if we don't at least try?

At least until the next TMNT movie (is the animated Netflix thing still happening?). Then we'll all hopefully have something new to discuss.

Originally Posted by Powder

You sure like the question mark. I'm not getting anything out of any of this. This place has gone to hell, & it's largely because people can't stop engaging in BS over politics. At least TRY to contribute to the sites intended purpose. If you're not here to talk turtles, then you're probably here to stir up trouble. The guys you came here to ruffle the feathers of, at least they came here to talk turtles, & did so, for many years. I don't care for their views either, but you're not helping.

[robertfiduciary]

Again, boredom. Lockdown (when I started reading this site) had left me with a lot of free time on my hands.

And, like a car crash, I couldn't look away.

But the more I think about it, the more I suspect (know) that you're right.

Thanks for your time. I hope maybe someday soon IDW published a monthly Turtle book we'll both like.

Originally Posted by Powder

You realize all that you've accomplished just makes it that much more sad you're here, right? With respect to the topic at hand, I'm sure we're all surprised that a body of government is biased & corrupt.

[Powder]

I just don't get why people think they can save the world by trying to course-correct a handful of hot-heads on a site for 40 year olds who spend their disposable income on kids toys. It's wasted energy that only serves to further the idea that all this place is good for is opposing sides going back & forth with no intention of budging from their stance, regardless of "proof" or anything else. You're not going to have a healthy discussion, change minds, or make friends, it will only make alllll y'all even more angry.

[Sumac]

Another worthless troll.

[Andrew NDB]

I think I know who this is now. No, you won't change her mind. No reason to try. But she's a good person fishing for... maybe kicks.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

And you enjoy the period. Pretty cool... how we all... get to... use... whatever punctuation... we enjoy.

Look: I posted here because I've read the site (it seems to be one of the only Turtle sites I could find) for a while.

And I feel that a few of you are... well, I'll be polite and say maybe a bit "misinformed." Which is fine! How else can we learn? How else can we grow? (Damn, more question marks!)

I majored in Poli Sci in college. I've worked on several political campaigns, from state reps all the way up to President.

I've (briefly) met two (now) former Presidents.

My older brother is pretty high up in an organization run by the US Government. Which is cool. It's gotten me all kinds of "VIP" tours around Washington DC over the years.

I have a small American flag framed on my bedroom wall. Why? Because it flew on a mission to freaking space (and my brother is rad when it comes to gift giving).

My brother-in-law is one of the highest ranking (maybe the highest?) civilian employee in one the divisions of the U.S. Armed Forces.

You know the Generals who do interviews for Cable News talk shows? Yeah, those are his bosses (I've heard some great stories).

Anyway, I've been passionate, and involved in politics MUCH longer than the 2016 Presidential Campaign - Present.

And I see stuff on this website, stuff that's posted with alarming regularity, that disturbs me.

To quote Captain America. "I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from."

(Sidenote: Am I right in understanding that one of the people who posts regularly on here is from Russia? And he continues to post divisive, relatively one-sided content that looks to a semi-trained eye like mine that it just might be done in order to sow division among American civilians? Do I have that right?).

So, yeah. That's why I've posted what I did.

Thanks for reading. And, please. I'd really, really appreciate if you read that Wikipedia article on the Southern Strategy.

Some of you have been active participants in it, and you don't even know it.

Nobody cares.

[Bahamut810]

As long as its posted in the right place, it doesn't hurt anyone. If you don't want to engage, then don't. If no one responds then it wont be interesting anymore.

As a response to the topic, I think I heard about it a while back? It a political strategy like any other. While people from Dem and Rep sides both use racism in their political conversations...right now it feels to me like its really the Dems doing it. "White guy" being an acceptable slur is really telling.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

And I feel that a few of you are... well, I'll be polite and say maybe a bit "misinformed." Which is fine! How else can we learn? How else can we grow? (Damn, more question marks!)

I majored in Poli Sci in college. I've worked on several political campaigns, from state reps all the way up to President.

And I have a Masters degree in Public Administration and have years of Public Service under my belt. You aren't someone to come to "teach" anyone anything on a Ninja Turtles forum, and quite frankly neither am I.

Go find a political forum, dude. Go serve in heaven instead of coming here to rule in hell.

Politics come up here but you have to combine the psychology of the posters here with the nature of the political content - it's a galvanized audience. The only way any of these people will cop to "learning something from you" is if they can use that statement to demonstrate their hate in proximity to another forum poster. It's a kid $#!( environment - especially with a few of the stunted, retail-level women here with circulation problems. It's like Freshman High School mentality.

Don't bother.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think I know who this is now. No, you won't change her mind. No reason to try. But she's a good person fishing for... maybe kicks.

Nah, she knows better than to waste her time. I think this is Greg again.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Powder

Nah, she knows better than to waste her time. I think this is Greg again.

No, you don't know who I suspect it is. Though if a mod checks the IP address and it is in Japan...

[Bahamut810]

All right...I'll bite. Who is Greg?