Movie theaters banning concessions

[Andrew NDB]

It hasn't happened in the U.S. yet, but it most likely will in blue states. You know, even though there is 0 evidence that COVID is spreading through food and we know that it doesn't survive on any surfaces.

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/en...g-popcorn.html

Probably this is revenge on people not listening to Fauci and seeing Spider-Man: No Way Home in record droves anyway. Can't have that. Theaters survive on their concessions... this will teach them a lesson!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Good. Safety comes first.

Freedom and Liberty be damned.

[Autbot_Benz]

With how expensive movie concessions are if this happens in the US I am sure people's wallets will be happy

[IMJ]

Not going to happen at the brew 'n views.

[The Deadman]

The article should have "France" in the title because that obvious clickbait title implies it's the US doing it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

The article should have "France" in the title because that obvious clickbait title implies it's the US doing it.

It's Canada, too.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's Canada, too.

This article only says France is doing it. Canada is doing it at other venues, not just movie theaters.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

This article only says France is doing it. Canada is doing it at other venues, not just movie theaters.

But including movie theaters.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...nues-1.6293811

[IMJ]

Canada is pretty much France anways, so.....

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Good. Safety comes first.

Freedom and Liberty be damned.

Do you even listen to yourself?

[oldmanwinters]

I usually smuggle in a plastic bag full of peanut butter pretzels, gummy bears, and m&ms into theatres... and a small bottled water... and if I’m feeling wild... a soda can.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Do you even listen to yourself?

What makes you think I don't? I've never claimed here that I support the false gods named freedom and liberty.

[Leo656]

There is literally zero point whatsoever in being alive without "freedom and liberty". Jesus Christ on a cracker. Anyone who would willingly give up their personal freedoms in exchange for the ILLUSION of "safety" deserve neither of those things.

Always preferable to die on one's feet than live on one's knees, says I. Says most folks, when it comes down to it and you push them hard enough. MOST people will only cede so much of their own freedom so that their neighbor feels more "secure", until finally enough is enough.

All groups are by definition cults, whether it's a literal cult, a country, or just a society of people in general, a Group is a Cult and all groups want you to diminish your own Self for the will of some nebulous Collective. Except that's bullsh*t, you get no benefit from that, "THEY" benefit by taking things away from you until you have nothing and you're taught to expect and accept it, because "YOU, yourself, don't matter, only the larger group matters" and again, that's complete nonsense. Individualism matters WAY more over any sort of collective, 100% of the time. That's the only RIGHT way to live, anything else is slavery with a bow on it. Nobody except YOU actually gives a single sh*t about YOU on this Earth, and "they" are not looking out for YOUR best interests no matter what "they" say. "THEY" do not care about "YOU", so why the f*ck do you (or anyone) give a sh*t about "them"? You shouldn't. Worry about yourself first, others later. "We're only mistreating you because it helps OTHER people!" Said Master to the Slave.

Even some actual slaves were perfectly fine being slaves. They aspired to nothing greater and it was good enough for them. Same thing now, it seems. But MOST people are not okay with that, Then or Now.

Not one single person has gotten sick or died because they bought a large popcorn at the movies. Zero. None. This sh*t needs to stop. MOST of what we've been told about Covid since the beginning has been proven bullsh*t and they just KEEP piling on with new sh*t every day. It only stops when enough people say "F*ck this, ENOUGH."

Of course, if you LIKE bleeding from the ass, by all means, keep bending over. Don't forget to smile and say "Thank you, Master", that's just good manners.

People really have become such timid, weak, frightened little creatures anymore. Pathetic. Makes me wonder why so many seem so terrified of dying when they're not even actually alive to begin with, living in perpetual fear as they do. If a person is so terrified of germs that they won't even buy a fountain soda... y'know what, they might as well just cash it in early. They're a victim by choice and victims, by definition, don't last long in this world. Nor should they, if they're that weak. But seriously, if a person is seriously and literally all "I can't go to the store, I can't go to the gym, I can't go to the park, I can't even buy a soda at the movies... CUZ THE GERMS'LL GET ME!", then... yeah, I don't know, man. They're probably mentally fragile to the point where they're not gonna live much longer, anyway. Just give up, at that point, you're beyond help. Sounds harsh but I'm just being realistic here.

Goddamn Barry Allen. Not a damn thing been right since he went back in time to try and save his momma. Now we all gotta suffer this Clown World bullsh*t. Thanks, Barry! Dumbass.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

There is literally zero point whatsoever in being alive without "freedom and liberty".

Sounds like worship. Freedom worshippers cannot envisage a world where their god is taken away from them.

Except freedom as a concept is incoherent, contradictory, meaningless and doesn't even exist as an absolute. All societies from the beginning are based on collectivism and control, no matter what they profess to believe in.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Sounds like worship. Freedom worshippers cannot envisage a world where their god is taken away from them.

Except freedom as a concept is incoherent, contradictory, meaningless and doesn't even exist as an absolute. All societies from the beginning are based on collectivism and control, no matter what they profess to believe in.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Sounds like worship. Freedom worshippers cannot envisage a world where their god is taken away from them.

Except freedom as a concept is incoherent, contradictory, meaningless and doesn't even exist as an absolute. All societies from the beginning are based on collectivism and control, no matter what they profess to believe in.

They can TELL you this, but it's up to you or any other individual whether you choose to believe it or not.

Here's a little mind-popper for ya: You are the "God" of your own universe. Your only "higher power" is You. Any "control" or "power" others claim to have over you is 1:1 with how much you choose to GIVE them, nothing more. Nobody "owns" you.

That's "freedom"; simply realizing that as fundamental Truth. Nobody can MAKE you do anything that you don't want to do. You can choose to comply, or not to comply, but that is not them having any actual power over you, that's simply You making A Choice.

We all live like this every day, even if we don't realize it. We all break laws and even Commandments at our leisure. We parse which rules are for us specifically to obey and which ones are for "the little people". They can put words on paper, they can say "You HAVE to do this." But you don't. Nobody does. Nobody HAS to do anything, ever. "The Rules" are suggestions at best, and we all sort of hope that most people go along because we recognize that without some semblance of order there'd be anarchy. Individually, though, EVERYONE just kinda does whatever the f*ck they want, regardless, whether on a micro or macro level.

"It SAYS no turn on Red, but f*ck it, there's no cops." "I know I'm not supposed to pick grapes off of the salad bar without paying, but f*ck it, I only took three." "My dog pooped on that guy's lawn, but it's 2am and I don't wanna clean it up; I'll just pretend he doesn't notice, and if he does I'll blame the other neighbor's dog." "Left lane passing only? Eh, I just like going fast." "Pay for the movie? Eh, I can just stream it for free, I'm only gonna watch it once." And so on and so forth. Every day, we all make it a point to CHOOSE which of the "rules" actually apply to us and which ones we're individually "above". And if you say YOU do not, then you're a liar.

Now, freedom of thought and deed does NOT mean freedom from consequence. But even that comes down to a choice. EVERYTHING in life is about choice, and you DO have the power of choice, no matter what rules or laws they set on paper or in stone. Now, I can choose to comply, or I can choose NOT to comply, and risk punishment. That's still me making a choice. Likewise, I can choose to try and evade punishment, and that too is a choice. But again, my point is that there's always a multitude of options, and nobody HAS to do ANYTHING, ever. There's things you're "supposed" to do, "should" do, "are expected" to do, and "it would be nice" if you did. And there's things that, "by law", you ostensibly "have" to do. Except you don't. People choose not to wear seatbelts, people choose to drink and drive, people choose to steal movies and songs off of the internet, people choose to eat meat on Fridays and people choose to leave the flag outside in the rain, even though there are rules and laws saying you "can't" do any of that stuff. You CAN, you just accept that someone might try and punish you for it later. But that's not the same as "can't", that's still just Making A Choice.

My suggestion to you, and to anyone really, would be to accept YOURSELF as the ultimate authority in your universe, and that nobody else has any authority over You. If there's a God, he doesn't want you listening to a bunch of mere mortals about how it's best to live, anyway, so that would mean Human Law doesn't matter. And he'd also speak to you directly, and not send His word to you through liars, thieves and pedophiles, as most clergy turn out to be regardless of religion. BUT, those liars, thieves and pedophiles all get away with their sh*t pretty regularly, so there's PROBABLY no God. I like to think there is, but he doesn't return my calls, so either he's not there or he's on vacation, but I'm pretty sure He'll tell me If and When I'm offsides. If He exists. But he probably doesn't, so without Divine Law what's left? Human Law, which I've extensively proven is bullsh*t. "Laws" are just Guidelines and Suggestions, and that's all.

I mean, "the law" says you can't sneak food into the movies, and right here in this thread we have people admitting to that. So no, nobody can "make" anyone comply with any "rules", big or small, that they willingly choose to disobey. Everyone chooses for themselves what The Rules are for Them. I do it, and so do you whether you admit it or not. There's ultimately SOME law in your country or some religious doctrine of your faith that you choose to disregard because it doesn't fit your personal lifestyle choices. You can't tell me there's not.

And that's what I'm talking about. We ALL, ultimately, live by the "You Are God Of Your Own Universe" philosophy, on account of how we each adopt our own "personal laws" and disregard all those we find inconvenient. That's making a choice.

Which is Ultimate Freedom. The realization that ALL life is a series of choices, up to and including which laws are for Thee but not for Me.

Nobody can "make" me do a goddamn thing. And they ultimately can't "make" you either.

And you'll be a lot happier once you realize that. It's probably the most liberating feeling a person can have, when they realize that they are only answerable to Themselves and nobody else. People talk about things like "taking the power back", and it usually means different things depending on circumstance, but that is it in its purest form.

You're your own God, your own Boss, your own Judge and Jury.

Embrace it, and Stand up. Trust me, when you finally get there it's like breathing real air for the very first time.

I mean, unless you CHOOSE to let people act like they own you and can boss you around and that you're powerless to do otherwise. But that honestly seems like an incredibly sh*t way to live. But even that is just another choice. You're still enforcing your own power even if you don't realize it or see it that way. Choosing to comply with things that are against your own self-interest are still, ultimately, choices. They're not MAKING you, they're telling you that you have no choice and you're choosing to believe them. That's still YOU making the choice, though, not Them. They cannot decide for You, only you can do that.

I'm gobsmacked that there's even a belief system out there that even SUGGESTS that docile complicity is advantageous over actually being "free" to make one's own decisions. Or rather, that people still buy into it. That's slavery, man. Literal mental slavery. Slavery is bad, guy.

Unless you don't think it is. I'd HOPE that you agree that slavery is bad but I don't know. Kinda wonder, sometimes. You DO seem kinda okay with the idea of there being Bosses and Subordinates as a factual state of existence, and that people should do what they're told without complaint "because it's what's good for them", so I don't know. But in any case, slavery is bad and I hope that you're only advocating for it by accident, and not on purpose. That'd be kinda weird, y'know?

Anyways, nah. We're all free people even if we don't realize it. Hopefully, one day, you will. Rooting for ya, brother! Sincerely. I would sincerely hope to one day see all people liberated mentally from the idea that other people control them. It's false, and it's poisonous.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I don't believe anything you've said as my entire foundation rests on obeying authority and following orders, but I enjoyed the read nonetheless to understand where you're coming from. Thanks for taking the time.

Now let's talk ponies, shall we?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

That's very stupid. Movie theaters make most of their money off concessions than tickets. I'd know as someone who worked at a theater. This is bad for business.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I don't believe anything you've said as my entire foundation rests on obeying authority and following orders, but I enjoyed the read nonetheless to understand where you're coming from. Thanks for taking the time.

Now let's talk ponies, shall we?

One of these days when I have more time.

But as to the bold: Why, though? I don't see any benefit to it. Letting other people treat you as "lesser than" because they say so? Because they say "It's better for other people that way (and who cares about You, anyway, it's everyone else who matters)"? I just don't see it as being a fulfilling or empowering way of being. And again, I'm more than a little surprised that there are people who choose to live that way.

A life spent in docile servitude is a life ultimately wasted. I can say with some certainty that most, if not all, of those people whose "authority" you willingly kneel to did not bring you into this world, they do not enrich or celebrate your existence, and they will not be there when you die. So what end does scraping and kneeling to them serve? If I'm personally going to "bend the knee" for anyone, it at least would be for someone I know well and care for. Not some rando with a gun or a badge or a flag. Those people mean literally nothing to me. Cops, politicians, bankers, clergy... these ought to be the LEAST important voices in any person's life. Because they don't care about you! So why willingly serve? Because it's "easier"? I sincerely do not get it.

I ask this with no malice, but a great deal of genuine confusion. "Authority" doesn't exist to enrich your life or your spirit, they exist to keep you from ever actually being happy. Their purpose is to tell you to shut up, sit down, go over there and fetch me this, etc. Every single bit of it designed to send and reinforce the message, "I exist Up Here and you exist Down There."

So my question I guess would be: Do you sincerely believe that you're no better than a servant, and that other people are "better" than you, and that "obeying orders and following authority" either 1. makes one a good person, in and of itself, or 2, Actually enriches YOUR own life in any significant way?

Because I, personally, am no man's servant. No matter what job I've ever had, I always said, "I don't have a 'boss', I have a guy who signs my paycheck. But that's different." And in my experience, people who revel in the "Boss" tag, when applied to them, unanimously take great joy in making others feel subservient to them, which by definition makes them a sh*t person. It's like the old joke says, "Y'know what 'Boss' spelled backwards is? 'Dick'." They can call themselves whatever they want, give themselves whatever title they choose, and shout it to the high heavens if it improves their fragile self-esteem. The fact they pay me to do a task doesn't give them any special privileges over me as a human being, at the end of the day. This needs to be understood by more people. I've always made that very clearly understood, no matter who I've worked for or with. More than once, when things got heated, and one of them would inevitably whip out the "...and I'm your F*CKING boss!" line, I would simply sigh, and calmly suggest "Maybe we can go over there, outside and around the corner, where you're NOT 'my f*cking boss', and we can continue this conversation. OR we can both just walk away and go back to work. But you aren't gonna keep talking to me like that, regardless."

Fun Fact: Never got fired, and hours later they'd usually apologize for the dumb sh*t they said. Turns out that MOST people actually respect you MORE when you're not afraid to puff your chest out as situations warrant. Personally, I always took GREAT satisfaction whenever they'd come back to me and say, "You're right, I shouldn't have said/done that." Granted, they had every right to fire me - I'd technically just threatened to fistfight the boss, after all - but the fact that they almost always flipped it over an hour later and apologized to ME tells me that ultimately I was right to strip away their little illusion of "authority" in that moment.

Obviously that approach won't work on everyone, but my point simply is this: It's more satisfying to empower yourself, rather than diminish yourself, no matter what "authority" another person claims to have over you. And once more, my question to you - with no malice but much confusion - is simply how/why do you not think so?

Like is it a religious thing, cultural thing, what? Obviously it's different Over Here. So while I'll never agree with your point of view I could maybe at least try and understand where it comes from.

A big thing to remember is, I'm also Irish, and we have an ingrained hatred/disgust/distrust of all authority hardwired into our DNA. That kind of thing happens after many years of some Redcoat scumbag kicking your doors in, raping your wife, stealing all your sh*t and saying "It's okay, I work for the King/Queen!" As was the standard state of existence in Ireland for far too many years. Sh*t like that happened to the American Colonists, too, which is pretty much entirely why 1. The very concept of "Freedom" (along with a healthy distrust of "authority" figures in general) is so important to Americans, and 2. Why the right to bear arms was written into our Constitution as one of the Very First Things. Because that way, "The next time some scumbag with a badge or a flag comes into your house and tries to rape your wife, you just shoot them, problem solved." There are REASONS why these things are so important to us that they're some of our core and fundamental values.

I can maybe, possibly, perhaps understand why in places with a different history, certain values might be different. But to an American, especially one of Irish descent? Hoooo boy. There's just SO MUCH to unpack whenever I/we hear someone say "My entire life is centered around obeying all authority figures." We already KNOW that "the people in charge" are never The Good Guys, we've already Been There and Done That over here. That's why we openly and loudly speak about how awful cops, politicians, etc. are. We tolerate them as a necessary evil to keep the rabble in line, but do we like or trust those people in "authority"? Oh Jesus, God, no. Nobody with a brain, anyways. Over here it's generally accepted that "They're all scumbags, but we need 'em."

I don't know, man. I'm sure your beliefs come from SOMEplace and I'm curious as to where, how, why, all that. But to people Over Here, it's... pretty much the complete opposite of how it's done. By all means, try and enlighten me. I'll never see it your way BUT it might quell the screaming voice in my brain that is just SO not understanding of where such thinking came from to begin with. And honestly, that would be nice.

You don't HAVE to explain it, but it would be nice if you did.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Good. Safety comes first.

Freedom and Liberty be damned.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-Ben Franklin

As a note, I think this is an ironic statement considering your signature states:

"The biggest villains were the censors. What they could do without being held back is my question."

As "safety" is a common reason people try to censor.