Do you like MOTU?...

[FALLEN ELDOR]

Please sign this petition this is the real one that currently has 1,737 signatures 24 hours after it went up! This petition will be sent to Mattel, and even if it doesn't work to sway Mattel into making MOTU a direct market collectors line, we can all at least say we tried.

Please, if you like MOTU and want to see Mattel make more figures, sign the petition. If you know anyone whop buys MOTU toys or just watches the cartoon, have them sign the petition! Lets get the word out to every body. This is our darkest hour as He-Fans, Please, help the line by showing your support today!

http://www.he-man.org/

[turtleking]

you mean a motu toy for kids right.

[FALLEN ELDOR]

No, its not selling with kids (as far as we know) , we need to make sure Mattel knows that the adult collectors will support a direct market line like DC direct. Almost 2,000 signatures in 24 hours is a damn good start!

[Splinter]

Originally Posted by FALLEN ELDOR

No, its not selling with kids (as far as we know) , we need to make sure Mattel knows that the adult collectors will support a direct market line like DC direct. Almost 2,000 signatures in 24 hours is a damn good start!

And it won't help at all, because petitions never do. If you guys really want to have any sucess at all in trying to save the line, there's only one answer. Snail Mail campaign. Because in the day of the internet and e-mail, that's the only kind of thing the companies really listen to. It's far too late anyway, since it will be almost impossible for them to regain retailer trust in the series at this point.

[FALLEN ELDOR]

Direct market, not standard retail, I had already said that. And besides, it is a snail mail campaign, it will be printed and sent to Mattel. if you don't believe it to work, thetas fine, I have my doubts my self, but I would rather say I did something, even if its just as small as spreading the word

[Splinter]

Originally Posted by FALLEN ELDOR

Direct market, not standard retail, I had already said that. And besides, it is a snail mail campaign, it will be printed and sent to Mattel. if you don't believe it to work, thetas fine, I have my doubts my self, but I would rather say I did something, even if its just as small as spreading the word

Sending a printed list of signatures is not a snail mail campaign. That's not going to do anything. You need to organize people to actually write a letter. Cause names gathered on the internet and printed will do nothing. And direct market will fail also. They won't make enough sales to guarentee the license. Without the kid market, with a license as expensive as MOTU...it would be suicide.

[FALLEN ELDOR]

Mattel pays no license, They own MOTU.

One of the reasons Mattel brought he-man back was because of the phenomenal success of the commemorative series, an adult collectors line, so they created the new line with plans of cross promotions (heavily aimed at kids as the plan A)
Sense then, they have admitted they weren't successful with kids, and that the only reason MOTU stayed afloat for over a year was because the adult collectors.

Mattel was surprised by how much adult collector interest there is in MOTU.
MOTU is one of the highest collected lines with adults, always on top ten lists in toy magazines, getting praise all across the Internet from collectors! If MOTU couldn't survive in the direct market, then nothing could.

If you don't care about MOTU that's fine, don't sign the petition, I'm only asking other he-fans. But please, don't antagonize people trying to support the line by saying "petitions don't work," because they do, ask a GI Joe fan whop have "o" rings back, ask a Freaks and Geeks fan who will have there DVDs on in April, petitions work my friend, and if 1,780 the people didn't agree with my in little over 24 hours, then I wouldn't be as enthused as I am.

[Ninjatron]

They won't make enough sales to guarentee the license. Without the kid market, with a license as expensive as MOTU...it would be suicide.

Uhh... what? That doesn't even make any sense! A licence as expensive as MOTU? There is no license! That like saying Hasbro has the licence Transformers, or that Mirage has the licence to TMNT. Mattel, the toy company, owns MOTU. They don't pay license fees to make products out of their own property. Geez.

There's no reason to say that MOTU couldn't survive in the same manner that a line like Spawn has over the years if the focus was shifted in that direction. And that is simply by delivering a cool product to people that want it without worrying about becoming the be all and end all to the children's market.

And maybe internet petitions work, or maybe they don't. But is it really so much trouble to just sign your freakin' name on the slim chance that it might actually do some good for a cause that you actually believe in? All I know is that I got my Princess Mononoke DVD with the English subtitles that were originally not going to be there until the people that wanted it caused a ruckus.

Sayonara.

[Splinter]

Expensive to produce, is what I meant. The figures are already expensive for what you get. Can you imagine a direct market version. The reason the kids didn't support the line was the crap job that Mattel did with actually marketing it. No commercial advertising, impossible to collect chase and short pack figures. Mattel slit the throat of the license is all I'm saying. And to really get them to look at changing how they run figure lines....you need to organize an actual write in campaign. Petitions in this day and age mean very little to the big boys in the toy companies. Take the advice or don't, I'm just offering you a means of making a difference.

[Valorxii]

petetions do work.

http://www.thecinemalaser.com/articl...family-guy.htm
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_pe...ed.cgi?savefg2

[Splinter]

Originally Posted by Valorxii

petetions do work.
http://www.thecinemalaser.com/articl...family-guy.htm
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_pe...ed.cgi?savefg2

Thank you for proving my point. The petition is not what brought back family guy. It was the DVD sales and the outstanding ratings for the reruns on Cartoon Network. Fox has said this, and so has the creator of the show Seth McFarlane. So it wasn't a petition that opened the eyes of Fox. It was those big green dollar signs they saw the DVD sets making.

Also note the number one suggestion on your petition link:

HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN DO:

1. WRITE LETTERS AND POSTCARDS

[turtleking]

Originally Posted by Vintage Splinter

Thank you for proving my point. The petition is not what brought back family guy. It was the DVD sales and the outstanding ratings for the reruns on Cartoon Network. Fox has said this, and so has the creator of the show Seth McFarlane. So it wasn't a petition that opened the eyes of Fox. It was those big green dollar signs they saw the DVD sets making.

Also note the number one suggestion on your petition link:

HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN DO:

1. WRITE LETTERS AND POSTCARDS

still trying to get him to see the light of day or is it just me as JACK SPARROW.

[Valorxii]

Originally Posted by Vintage Splinter

Thank you for proving my point. The petition is not what brought back family guy. It was the DVD sales and the outstanding ratings for the reruns on Cartoon Network. Fox has said this, and so has the creator of the show Seth McFarlane. So it wasn't a petition that opened the eyes of Fox. It was those big green dollar signs they saw the DVD sets making.

Also note the number one suggestion on your petition link:

HERE’S WHAT YOU CAN DO:

1. WRITE LETTERS AND POSTCARDS

no, note the fact they they say they have brought it back before, as in before the dvds were on sale.

[Splinter]

Nah, just offering a better idea then the petition. If Mattel gets flooded with mail, they're actually going to listen. Then if they just get one manila envelop with a bunch of names, some of which arn't even real. Oh, here's the proof on the Family Guy thing from the NY Times.

'GUY': IT'S ALIVE!
By DON KAPLAN
January 12, 2004 -- EXCLUSIVE

'THE Family Guy" is coming back from the dead.

Talks are under way with both Fox - which canceled the cartoon series two years ago - and the Cartoon Network - which airs it in reruns now - for new episodes of the show, Seth MacFarlane, creator of "Family Guy," told The Post.

No matter what, MacFarlane says, production will begin soon - even if he doesn't know exactly where they'll end up.

"We're sort of waiting on an official word, but to the best of my knowledge, the plan is to start producing a batch of new episodes without necessarily knowing where they're going to wind up," he says. "It's sort of a new format that really hasn't been tried before, and it's based on the DVD sales."

DVD sales of the canceled show have been huge - and in no small part is fueling talk of reviving the series.

"It's insane. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that it would have this kind of afterlife," MacFarlane says. "It's just a shock to everybody who worked on the show."

The show follows the misadventures of the Griffin family - bumbling dad Peter, his good-natured wife Lois, their two teens, a cynical dog who is smarter than everyone else, and an evil baby bent on world domination who makes numerous attempts to kill his parents and siblings.

When "Family Guy" aired on Fox from 1999-2002, many attributed its low ratings to not having a secure place on the network's schedule. The show was kicked around so much, one of its writers once complained that even his own mother didn't know when it was on.

But industry execs took notice last year when the show's DVD collection surprised even MacFarlane by selling more than a million copies, a huge feat by any standard, but especially for a show that drew so little attention while it was on the air.

In the meantime, Cartoon Network's "Adult Swim" late-night programming block began airing repeats last year - which attracted large numbers of young men. In time, more young guys were tuning into the cable channel to see "Family Guy" at 11:30 p.m. than for either "The Late Show" or "The Tonight Show."

Men between the ages of 18 and 34 years old are a prized group for advertisers.

" 'The Family Guy' is appealing to a young male audience in a season when nothing seems to be appealing to young men," said an industry source close to the talks.

A deal could even be announced as early as this week, according to sources. But others believe that might be overly optimistic because insiders have been claiming a deal for the prime-time return of "Family Guy" has been imminent since last November.

Several different plans to bring the show back are under discussion.

In one scenario, new episodes of "The Family Guy" would air on Fox, then Cartoon Network.

Other options include shipping the show exclusively either to Fox, Cartoon Network or elsewhere. In all instances, the ultimate destination for the episodes would be on DVD.

But if the show does return, it will likely put off a planned "Family Guy" movie, says MacFarlane.

"To do an original movie directly for DVD and the series at the same time would be a little difficult," he says. "But there's been some discussion of doing a series of episodes that would all link together to form a movie."

While canceled shows have been picked up by rival networks in the past ("JAG" jumped from NBC to CBS in 1997, for instance), no one can recall a show that has been canceled and off the air ever returning to the same network.

[turtleking]

Originally Posted by Vintage Splinter

Nah, just offering a better idea then the petition. If Mattel gets flooded with mail, they're actually going to listen. Then if they just get one manila envelop with a bunch of names, some of which arn't even real. Oh, here's the proof on the Family Guy thing from the NY Times.

what your saying is the more people email or write to mattel the better your chances of getting what you want right.

[Splinter]

Originally Posted by Valorxii

no, note the fact they they say they have brought it back before, as in before the dvds were on sale.

It wasn't out of production at the time, it was merely on hiatus. They'd already paid for the episodes to be made. So they were going to come back and finish showing them anyway. Same thing happened with Futurama. They still finished making the episodes and showing them, even though they were cancelled.

[Valorxii]

how did the fanbase revive it then?

a petetiion couldnt do anything but help.

most people are not going to right a letter

[Valorxii]

hell you might as well set the petetion up as well as do whatever else. it cant hurt.

[cqb101]

Meh, I'm not gonna sign the petition. MOTU deserves to be cancelled. As much as it was a cool, line, it had **** distribution, **** chases, and **** exclusives. I'm glad it's over with.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by cqb101

Meh, I'm not gonna sign the petition. MOTU deserves to be cancelled. As much as it was a cool, line, it had sh** distribution, sh** chases, and sh** exclusives. I'm glad it's over with.

I think most people are concerned about the CARTOON rather than the toy-line