The Disappointment

redsai4lex · 03-15-2004, 04:36 PM

The video game could have been 10x better...

they had the right idea but they didnt correctly take it into action...

THINGS THEY DID WRONG
_________________________

1. Kept the old game-style (brawler)
2. No Blocking move
3. No original Jumping attacks (Flying Kick)
4. Lame overhead 3D effects
5. Annoying repeated comments
6. The inability to punch or kick without weapons
7. The inability to use only 1 or No weapons...(x-clude Don)
8. The inability to switch Weapons w/ Casey Jones.
9. The inability to have 4 players on screen.
10. The inability to choose Casey or Splinter during story mode(along w/ the TMNT)
11. The fact that the only 2 real episodes in the game was the Pilot & "Nano"
12. They didnt stick to the story of the show...
13. They didnt have important events of the show in the Game.
14. Fighting mode is NOT 2 wins out of 3.
15. Could have been able to play every episode from the Pilot to "Return to New York part.3" (But they DID'NT)

I Could go on and on, but Ill stop for Now and see
what everybody else thinks...

Brandatello · 03-15-2004, 06:09 PM

there is a splinter and a casey story mode

redsai4lex · 03-15-2004, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMNTlover2004

there is a splinter and a casey story mode

Read it again... I said (along w/ the TMNT)

that means ...

EX.
1P=Leo 2P=Casey 3P=Raph 4P=Splinter

Thats what I meant...

Brandatello · 03-15-2004, 06:20 PM

oh XD

*Kid Icarus* · 03-15-2004, 06:28 PM

Augh, this has already been covered quite a bit. I wasn't happy with the game. Granted, it could have been MUCH worse though...

Why they didn't have 4 player support is totally beyond me. You'd think, given the power that the current machines have and the fact that there are FOUR TMNT, it would have clicked. Guess not though. And who the hell cares of the PS2 would have lost a feature? That'd be Sony's fault for not putting the (now) standard 4 controller inputs on their machine.

The game play got boring because A) The levels were bland, and B) the thugs in the levels were WAY too weak/stupid. The AI was too weak. I could stand next to an enemy and not get hit, they'd rarely seek me out in a level, and they didn't deal that much damage untill the final stage. Not to mention getting stuck behind objects.

Hopefully they fix this in the next one, or else I won't even waste my time with a rental.

*jeff the cheff* · 03-15-2004, 06:43 PM

I got a ps2, a multi-tap and four controllers, but I never get to use them. I really wish this game was 4 player.

jestergoblin · 03-15-2004, 08:08 PM

Gwgtrunks, you KNOW you'll rent it either way

Demented Utrom · 03-19-2004, 03:11 PM

Not having 4 Players was Konami's fault.

redsai4lex · 03-22-2004, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shredder utrom

Not having 4 Players was Konami's fault.

KONAMI RUINED THE GAME!!!

*Raven* · 03-23-2004, 05:46 PM

this game is fun, but its not worth 50 bucks, a rental yes.

it could have been a lot better, but its nice to have a tmnt game on the ps2, but other wise this is a game best forgoten.

i still think they should do a turtle game based off of stealth instead of pure fighting, i mean they are ninjas after all.

Peanut · 03-24-2004, 10:53 AM

The games framerate took some nasty hits in areas of the game with only TWO players, so four looks like it would have been horrific and unplayable. They must not have felt like putting much effort into getting a steady framerate going in order to have 4 players.

Gremlin · 03-24-2004, 01:27 PM

It's a cel-shaded game (the cartoony graphics) and for some odd reason, cel-shading uses much more of the hardware that "regular" graphics. In the state that we got this game, No console and barely the most powerful PCs would have been able to handle 4p-mode... Since the cel-shading still is pretty new, developers haven't really got the hang of it and how to optimize it.

Since TMNT is just another game based on a license (which is bad in 99% of the cases today), any attempts to optimize cel-shading just won't happen on this game-series. When a big game (like Zelda) have better cel-shading that's been optimized and doesn't use as much hardware, other developers will begin to use the same methods and smaller releases that the companies doesn't really care about (like TMNT) can start to use improved cel-shading techniques and with that, ability to play four player modes.

*PizzaPower* · 03-24-2004, 05:42 PM

i wish it was 4 playrs as well, and stop complaing at lease they are making tmnt stuff again!

*Taloniss* · 03-24-2004, 06:33 PM

But if we don't complain, they'll keep pumping out crap products, and no one wants that.

Psycho Andy · 03-24-2004, 07:53 PM

That's assuming they're reading our complaints, of course. If it hasn't happened already, some of us should make sure to email Konami, and list what we would like to see changed with the game.

redsai4lex · 03-30-2004, 01:11 PM

All the things I listed are perfect examples
that Konami should learn from...

Ill try to e-mail Konami...

trax90210 · 03-31-2004, 06:01 PM

you go ahead and do that (its for the best im sure), not having played on the game yet (because it hasnt been released) i dont know if i should buy it now, i was looking forward to getting it until i looked at this

Tigershard · 03-31-2004, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trax90210

you go ahead and do that (its for the best im sure), not having played on the game yet (because it hasnt been released) i dont know if i should buy it now, i was looking forward to getting it until i looked at this

There should be a big disclaimer at the beginning of this post that says "Mileage will vary". I love the game, and the friends I have introduced the game to really like it too. Its not the best game I have ever played, and yes, it could be better, but that doesn't mean it isnt enjoyable. Give it a rental first if you can, and then decide.

Mobius One · 04-01-2004, 02:48 PM

Does anyone else think that the new Turtles game should be like GTA with a big city that you could prowl around in and street crimes would randomly happen like in True Crime, and you could go on the streets, rooftops,and into the sewers. But also, I think that you could sneak around in the shadows like in Splinter Cell, because the TMNT are ninjas. I mean, they have already done all of these things in other games so I thik that it is definitly possible. The only thing is that if they made it like that, thn there would most definitly be no four or even two player support.

But still, wouldn't that be an amazing game?

Psycho Raph · 04-10-2004, 03:14 AM

Personally, I think if stealth was brought into it that it should be an option. For example, there could be an "Arcade Mode" where you're given linear paths and hordes of enemies and bosses to defeat ala the old TMNT games as well as a "Stealth Mode" which has more free-roaming mission-style stages that are similar to Tenchu 3 or something.

03-15-2004, 04:36 PM	#1
redsai4lex Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: by the TMNT's side Posts: 546	The Disappointment The video game could have been 10x better... they had the right idea but they didnt correctly take it into action... THINGS THEY DID WRONG _________________________ 1. Kept the old game-style (brawler) 2. No Blocking move 3. No original Jumping attacks (Flying Kick) 4. Lame overhead 3D effects 5. Annoying repeated comments 6. The inability to punch or kick without weapons 7. The inability to use only 1 or No weapons...(x-clude Don) 8. The inability to switch Weapons w/ Casey Jones. 9. The inability to have 4 players on screen. 10. The inability to choose Casey or Splinter during story mode(along w/ the TMNT) 11. The fact that the only 2 real episodes in the game was the Pilot & "Nano" 12. They didnt stick to the story of the show... 13. They didnt have important events of the show in the Game. 14. Fighting mode is NOT 2 wins out of 3. 15. Could have been able to play every episode from the Pilot to "Return to New York part.3" (But they DID'NT) I Could go on and on, but Ill stop for Now and see what everybody else thinks... __________________

03-15-2004, 06:09 PM	#2
Brandatello Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: CNY Posts: 364	there is a splinter and a casey story mode __________________

03-15-2004, 06:20 PM	#4
Brandatello Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: CNY Posts: 364	oh XD __________________

03-23-2004, 05:46 PM	#10
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	this game is fun, but its not worth 50 bucks, a rental yes. it could have been a lot better, but its nice to have a tmnt game on the ps2, but other wise this is a game best forgoten. i still think they should do a turtle game based off of stealth instead of pure fighting, i mean they are ninjas after all. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

03-24-2004, 05:42 PM	#13
PizzaPower Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pizza Parlor Posts: 3,200	i wish it was 4 playrs as well, and stop complaing at lease they are making tmnt stuff again! __________________ https://www.twitch.tv/turtlepizzapower

03-15-2004, 06:28 PM	#5
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	Augh, this has already been covered quite a bit. I wasn't happy with the game. Granted, it could have been MUCH worse though... Why they didn't have 4 player support is totally beyond me. You'd think, given the power that the current machines have and the fact that there are FOUR TMNT, it would have clicked. Guess not though. And who the hell cares of the PS2 would have lost a feature? That'd be Sony's fault for not putting the (now) standard 4 controller inputs on their machine. The game play got boring because A) The levels were bland, and B) the thugs in the levels were WAY too weak/stupid. The AI was too weak. I could stand next to an enemy and not get hit, they'd rarely seek me out in a level, and they didn't deal that much damage untill the final stage. Not to mention getting stuck behind objects. Hopefully they fix this in the next one, or else I won't even waste my time with a rental.

03-15-2004, 06:43 PM	#6
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I got a ps2, a multi-tap and four controllers, but I never get to use them. I really wish this game was 4 player.

03-15-2004, 08:08 PM	#7
jestergoblin Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,466	Gwgtrunks, you KNOW you'll rent it either way

03-19-2004, 03:11 PM	#8
Demented Utrom Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 474	Not having 4 Players was Konami's fault.

03-24-2004, 10:53 AM	#11
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	The games framerate took some nasty hits in areas of the game with only TWO players, so four looks like it would have been horrific and unplayable. They must not have felt like putting much effort into getting a steady framerate going in order to have 4 players.

03-24-2004, 01:27 PM	#12
Gremlin Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 242	It's a cel-shaded game (the cartoony graphics) and for some odd reason, cel-shading uses much more of the hardware that "regular" graphics. In the state that we got this game, No console and barely the most powerful PCs would have been able to handle 4p-mode... Since the cel-shading still is pretty new, developers haven't really got the hang of it and how to optimize it. Since TMNT is just another game based on a license (which is bad in 99% of the cases today), any attempts to optimize cel-shading just won't happen on this game-series. When a big game (like Zelda) have better cel-shading that's been optimized and doesn't use as much hardware, other developers will begin to use the same methods and smaller releases that the companies doesn't really care about (like TMNT) can start to use improved cel-shading techniques and with that, ability to play four player modes.

03-24-2004, 06:33 PM	#14
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	But if we don't complain, they'll keep pumping out crap products, and no one wants that.

03-24-2004, 07:53 PM	#15
Psycho Andy Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Just outside Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 25	That's assuming they're reading our complaints, of course. If it hasn't happened already, some of us should make sure to email Konami, and list what we would like to see changed with the game. __________________ -Psycho Andy! Check out Psycho Andy's Website Extravaganza! And read Hawk and Croc: Heroes YOU can relate to! It's good for you.

03-30-2004, 01:11 PM	#16
redsai4lex Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: by the TMNT's side Posts: 546	All the things I listed are perfect examples that Konami should learn from... Ill try to e-mail Konami...

03-31-2004, 06:01 PM	#17
trax90210 Thug Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: China Posts: 62	you go ahead and do that (its for the best im sure), not having played on the game yet (because it hasnt been released) i dont know if i should buy it now, i was looking forward to getting it until i looked at this __________________ Slash ready to kick ass

04-01-2004, 02:48 PM	#19
Mobius One Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: US Posts: 411	Does anyone else think that the new Turtles game should be like GTA with a big city that you could prowl around in and street crimes would randomly happen like in True Crime, and you could go on the streets, rooftops,and into the sewers. But also, I think that you could sneak around in the shadows like in Splinter Cell, because the TMNT are ninjas. I mean, they have already done all of these things in other games so I thik that it is definitly possible. The only thing is that if they made it like that, thn there would most definitly be no four or even two player support. But still, wouldn't that be an amazing game? __________________ You can kill the Revolutionaries, But you can't kill the Revolution! www.worldskater224.deviantart.com -visit it! Formerly Demogoblin87...

04-10-2004, 03:14 AM	#20
Psycho Raph Thug Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 58	Personally, I think if stealth was brought into it that it should be an option. For example, there could be an "Arcade Mode" where you're given linear paths and hordes of enemies and bosses to defeat ala the old TMNT games as well as a "Stealth Mode" which has more free-roaming mission-style stages that are similar to Tenchu 3 or something. __________________ Josh the Stampede