About Spliter in the comics. Spoilers

Orochi Chimera · 04-04-2004, 02:57 PM

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How did Splinter die?
Did he go out in a decent/respectful way?

*Stone Ill* · 04-04-2004, 03:13 PM

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Orochi Chimera · 04-04-2004, 03:26 PM

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I changed it. Well it could have been a rumor. Plus Splinter here at the forums has "R.I.P. Splinter" right in his signature so I didn't think it would be a big deal. I figured that many people who didn't read the comic would have found out that way. I didn't know until I read it in his signature.

Tigershard · 04-04-2004, 03:27 PM

He just sorta... died. He's fixing up some tea, suddenly it shows him in pain, he says something like "My sons..." and just falls over dead.

*Taloniss* · 04-04-2004, 03:38 PM

Rat King was in the background when he keeled over too, so I think Laird is going to come back to this and delve deeper into the story.

Orochi Chimera · 04-04-2004, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigershard

He just sorta... died. He's fixing up some tea, suddenly it shows him in pain, he says something like "My sons..." and just falls over dead.

So did it just look like he died or is he dead for sure?

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Rat King was in the background when he keeled over too, so I think Laird is going to come back to this and delve deeper into the story.

Did they hint anything like maybe he was poisoned(possibly by Ratking) or did it just end like that?

**Jo Dawn** · 04-04-2004, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigershard

He just sorta... died. He's fixing up some tea, suddenly it shows him in pain, he says something like "My sons..." and just falls over dead.

So did it just look like he died or is he dead for sure?

He's really dead. They had a ceremony and everything already.

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Did they hint anything like maybe he was poisoned(possibly by Ratking) or did it just end like that?

I don't think they hinted at anything like that (someone correct me if I'm wrong, please!). I'd just assumed he died of a heart attack or something...

Tigershard · 04-04-2004, 04:00 PM

Yeah, he is really dead. They burned him on a funeral boat/pyre. But Don did take something from the corpse before hand. We don't know what it is yet

*Taloniss* · 04-04-2004, 04:11 PM

They didn't hint at anything, he was just standing there. Wasn't there a story saying that Rat King was Splinters spiritual guide, or something like that? maybe that's why he was there when he bit the dust.

Peanut · 04-04-2004, 04:29 PM

Yes Rat King helped Splinter survive. Kinda like a spirt guide. I'm 100% sure that was the significance of Rat Kings appearance at the time of Splinters death, which might I add actually made me quite sad.

*Zachatello00* · 04-04-2004, 11:14 PM

The Shell if Splinter's dead for sure. I've got my theories.

Tigershard · 04-04-2004, 11:17 PM

Hopefully Don isn't trying to clone him...

Straight-Edge · 04-05-2004, 06:22 AM

The Rat King died in his first appearance, in Tales of TMNT vol 1.

During the City at War, Splinter is trapped in the same abandoned lot, and is haunted by the spirit of the Rat king, who pushes Splinter into eating anothe rrat to stay alive. when Splinter escapes, he finds the Rat king's bones in the rubble.

I don't know if I would go so far as to say Rat king was Splinter's spiritual guide, but they certainly have an ethereal connection. Rat King Appearing in Vol 4 was symblic...like a black crow, or the Grim Reaper... he is the spectre of death in Splinter's own mind... thus as Splinter's death sapproached, the Rat King was near.

*Buslady* · 04-05-2004, 07:29 AM

No, it sucked. He had a heart attack and keeled over. They had a simple torching over a lake and that was it. YOu'd think it'd have some major impact on the guys...there were no emotions, no nothing.
Yeha and Don takes a sample of Splinter's hair..yea he'll probably try to clone him or something stupid. That'd be foolish of him. It wouldn't BE Splinter, onlu genetically.

I mean come on, this was SPLINTER...the guy's dad and nobody showed any emotion....oo Leo stayed there for a long time..whoopie doo...what about the others?

It was done pretty lame.

*Roseangelo* · 04-05-2004, 08:30 AM

Yup, ditto exactly what Buslady said.

**Kali** · 04-05-2004, 11:27 AM

Well, honestly, I think the guys have been prepared for Splinter's death for a long time. That doesn't mean they aren't feeling any grief, they're just staying strong during mourning.

However, I expect that that strength is only gonna last for so long. I see a breakdown or "snap" at somepoint in the future.

Splinter · 04-05-2004, 01:52 PM

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DON'T POST SPOILERS IN THE TOPIC HEADING!

Technially, at this point....it wouldn't be a spoiler. Nearly a year has passed since the issue originally came out. If people don't know by now, then it's their fault. As for the death, it was very poorly done. He was alone, and you can tell by the arm tremors that it was likely a heart attack. Ah hell, here are the pages.

http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/...nter/tmnt1.jpg
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/...nter/tmnt2.jpg
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/...nter/tmnt3.jpg
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/...nter/tmnt4.jpg
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/...nter/tmnt5.jpg

*Anarchistguy* · 04-05-2004, 04:46 PM

That was a heart attack. Dropping dead like that. What else could it be?

*Taloniss* · 04-05-2004, 04:58 PM

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That was a heart attack. Dropping dead like that. What else could it be?

Brain Anuresym. It was a heart attack though, just saying.

**Machias Banshee** · 04-05-2004, 06:34 PM

IT could have been REALLY bad...

worst case scenario..

Okay, we all saw Ratking there. what if...

Ratking's Ghost takes control of Splinter, putting him into a strange 'absolute-zero' sort of suspended animation? He's not dead, but nothings' moving. No pulse, no breathing. Literally, he could have been in 'still life'.

And THEN...know what that means?

That means--worst case 'one in a million' scenario-- they then could have thought Splinter was dead, even though he wasnt, and then...When they Burned Splinter's body on that floating Pyre... Well, use your imagination here.

I'm not saying it could have happened. I sure as heck hope it didnt. But you never know sometimes... messed up writers..

04-04-2004, 02:57 PM	#1
Orochi Chimera Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,289	About Spliter in the comics. Spoilers Edit: How did Splinter die? Did he go out in a decent/respectful way? __________________

04-04-2004, 11:14 PM	#11
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04-05-2004, 07:29 AM	#14
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	No, it sucked. He had a heart attack and keeled over. They had a simple torching over a lake and that was it. YOu'd think it'd have some major impact on the guys...there were no emotions, no nothing. Yeha and Don takes a sample of Splinter's hair..yea he'll probably try to clone him or something stupid. That'd be foolish of him. It wouldn't BE Splinter, onlu genetically. I mean come on, this was SPLINTER...the guy's dad and nobody showed any emotion....oo Leo stayed there for a long time..whoopie doo...what about the others? It was done pretty lame. __________________

04-05-2004, 08:30 AM	#15
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,119	Yup, ditto exactly what Buslady said. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

04-05-2004, 04:46 PM	#18
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	That was a heart attack. Dropping dead like that. What else could it be? __________________ M.D.K. Maim! Destroy! Kill!!! "When my time comes, I wanna be buried face down, so those who don't like me can kiss my ass!"

04-04-2004, 03:13 PM	#2
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	DON'T POST SPOILERS IN THE TOPIC HEADING!

04-04-2004, 03:27 PM	#4
Tigershard Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 469	He just sorta... died. He's fixing up some tea, suddenly it shows him in pain, he says something like "My sons..." and just falls over dead.

04-04-2004, 03:38 PM	#5
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	Rat King was in the background when he keeled over too, so I think Laird is going to come back to this and delve deeper into the story.

04-04-2004, 04:00 PM	#8
Tigershard Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 469	Yeah, he is really dead. They burned him on a funeral boat/pyre. But Don did take something from the corpse before hand. We don't know what it is yet

04-04-2004, 04:11 PM	#9
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	They didn't hint at anything, he was just standing there. Wasn't there a story saying that Rat King was Splinters spiritual guide, or something like that? maybe that's why he was there when he bit the dust.

04-04-2004, 04:29 PM	#10
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yes Rat King helped Splinter survive. Kinda like a spirt guide. I'm 100% sure that was the significance of Rat Kings appearance at the time of Splinters death, which might I add actually made me quite sad.

04-04-2004, 11:17 PM	#12
Tigershard Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 469	Hopefully Don isn't trying to clone him...

04-05-2004, 06:22 AM	#13
Straight-Edge Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 139	The Rat King died in his first appearance, in Tales of TMNT vol 1. During the City at War, Splinter is trapped in the same abandoned lot, and is haunted by the spirit of the Rat king, who pushes Splinter into eating anothe rrat to stay alive. when Splinter escapes, he finds the Rat king's bones in the rubble. I don't know if I would go so far as to say Rat king was Splinter's spiritual guide, but they certainly have an ethereal connection. Rat King Appearing in Vol 4 was symblic...like a black crow, or the Grim Reaper... he is the spectre of death in Splinter's own mind... thus as Splinter's death sapproached, the Rat King was near.

04-05-2004, 11:27 AM	#16
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Well, honestly, I think the guys have been prepared for Splinter's death for a long time. That doesn't mean they aren't feeling any grief, they're just staying strong during mourning. However, I expect that that strength is only gonna last for so long. I see a breakdown or "snap" at somepoint in the future.

04-05-2004, 06:34 PM	#20
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	IT could have been REALLY bad... worst case scenario.. Okay, we all saw Ratking there. what if... Ratking's Ghost takes control of Splinter, putting him into a strange 'absolute-zero' sort of suspended animation? He's not dead, but nothings' moving. No pulse, no breathing. Literally, he could have been in 'still life'. And THEN...know what that means? That means--worst case 'one in a million' scenario-- they then could have thought Splinter was dead, even though he wasnt, and then...When they Burned Splinter's body on that floating Pyre... Well, use your imagination here. I'm not saying it could have happened. I sure as heck hope it didnt. But you never know sometimes... messed up writers..