What could have made NM better??

**Jester** · 04-05-2004, 10:12 AM

So here we go another stupid NM thread but hear me out, what in your HO could have made NT:TNM better. I would have liked to see more shredder and the foot, and a better shredder armor...i mean gahhh it sucked. and re-work venus, so that she works
any takers??

creativerealms82 · 04-05-2004, 10:30 AM

Better story and acting really whoulc have done the best. Even without Venus and more Shredder if the stories still sucked nothing would have changed.

*Taloniss* · 04-05-2004, 10:44 AM

Better stories
No Venus
Better costumes

**Kali** · 04-05-2004, 10:45 AM

You got a few hours?

Or maybe just a few months until I finish my re-write.

Anyway, I seriously think this show could have been better if they tweaked everything just a little. If they'd changed just one aspect it would have still sucked, but a little improvement across the board might have gone a long way.

Better writing and characterization would have gone a long way. Catch phrases are bad. While I know that everyone wanted to see Shredder in all his iconic glory, but I rather liked the focus on the Dragonlord. Wish Shredder had a better going out, though.

As for Venus herself... First, don't use slang, especially if you don't understand it. I don't mind her messing up her spells because she's still an apprentice, so that's to be expected.

The guys needed an attitude adjustment as well.

*VaughnMichael* · 04-05-2004, 11:29 AM

I think the best things would have been better stories and a bigger budget.
-Vaughn Michael

*Drtooth* · 04-05-2004, 12:10 PM

I think that 2 things could have helped it.

No Frikkin Venus, and not having Splinter transported to the other dimension...

Plus Krang.... Krang could fix anything... if he were in the cheesy X-mas special, it would have been good!

Mobius One · 04-05-2004, 12:40 PM

I definitly think that Venus shouldn't have been there, because adding her in there just didn't make sense. More Shredder/Foot would have been cool too. Kinda like a mix between the old TV show and the Movie would be awesome. Also, the costumes in NM were very very WEAK and stupid.

*Drtooth* · 04-05-2004, 01:45 PM

They did have a budget. As I've said earlier, they had to make the first film on a budget to afford Henson's involvement. On the other side of the coin, they are still leaps and bounds better than the Christmas special suits... my eyes burned.

Maybe it would have been better as a cartoon... but then we wouldn't have the cool show now....

~~Jarrah White~~ · 04-05-2004, 03:10 PM

Here's what I'd do,

1) No cartoon noises, they just became annoying.
2) More Shredder, though I trust he would have returned in the second season.
3) Make it as dark as the Mirage comics.
4) On the whole, I like the turtle costumes expect you can see the line between the mask and the rest of the suit, seal it up I say. And I think Shredder's costume could use for spikes.

*Voltron* · 04-05-2004, 04:52 PM

Give me some gasoline and a lighter. I'll make it better.

TheRATKING · 04-05-2004, 05:15 PM

not haveing it .... well no at the time i was happy to have it cuz it was turtles okay so what could have been better ummmm........ everything it was just really poorly done

Lisardo · 04-05-2004, 09:22 PM

I chose 'No Venus' in the poll. But also less Dragonlord, less cheesiness, more Vam Mi.

*Raven* · 04-09-2004, 03:53 PM

get rid of venus, better acting, and storys.
and make it so its not so cartooney.

TheRATKING · 04-09-2004, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by major pain

get rid of venus, better acting, and storys.
and make it so its not so cartooney.

very well said thats how i feel

*Anarky* · 04-09-2004, 05:24 PM

why was splinter in the other dimension. i only saw a few eps of that show...

**Jester** · 04-09-2004, 05:37 PM

it's the realm of dreams, a place for the enlightend to go and meditate and kind like a chat forum. But Dragon lord kinda took it over and kidnapped him. answer ur question??

Krangfan · 04-09-2004, 08:51 PM

Wasn't April missing from that show?

That must've been bad. But I'm not sure, as I haven't had the "pleasure" of watching it.

**Jo Dawn** · 04-09-2004, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtooth

They did have a budget. As I've said earlier, they had to make the first film on a budget to afford Henson's involvement. On the other side of the coin, they are still leaps and bounds better than the Christmas special suits... my eyes burned.

Maybe it would have been better as a cartoon... but then we wouldn't have the cool show now....

True... so maybe it all worked out for the best in the end.

redsai4lex · 04-10-2004, 01:03 PM

no venus & more shredder

*ZariusTwo* · 04-10-2004, 01:52 PM

Shredder shoiuld have remained a consistant threat, to bring in a bunch of mary-sue characters was pretty stupid, if you're going to bring in new characters, associate them with a stronger MIRAGE character like Hun was in the new Ninja Turtles cartoon, he was the right hand man of a REAL major villain like Shredder

THAT was the problem with Dragon Lord, he was a great villian...yeah..a good POWER RANGERS villian, and TMNT IS'NT Power Rangers, some gormless soul in the Saban office thought that was the case, before any of the ideas for Season 2 came around, the show was axed

Venus was the worst original character of all, the shark-jumper, the show-stoppa, the maimed event.

View Poll Results: What coulda made NM better??
No Venus!	12	70.59%
More Shredder	2	11.76%
Better stories	3	17.65%
Better Venus	0	0%
Other	0	0%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

04-05-2004, 10:12 AM	#1
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	What could have made NM better?? So here we go another stupid NM thread but hear me out, what in your HO could have made NT:TNM better. I would have liked to see more shredder and the foot, and a better shredder armor...i mean gahhh it sucked. and re-work venus, so that she works any takers?? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

04-05-2004, 11:29 AM	#5
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	well I think the best things would have been better stories and a bigger budget. -Vaughn Michael

04-05-2004, 12:10 PM	#6
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	I think that 2 things could have helped it. No Frikkin Venus, and not having Splinter transported to the other dimension... Plus Krang.... Krang could fix anything... if he were in the cheesy X-mas special, it would have been good! __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

04-05-2004, 12:40 PM	#7
Mobius One Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: US Posts: 411	I definitly think that Venus shouldn't have been there, because adding her in there just didn't make sense. More Shredder/Foot would have been cool too. Kinda like a mix between the old TV show and the Movie would be awesome. Also, the costumes in NM were very very WEAK and stupid. __________________ You can kill the Revolutionaries, But you can't kill the Revolution! www.worldskater224.deviantart.com -visit it! Formerly Demogoblin87...

04-05-2004, 10:30 AM	#2
creativerealms82 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hammond IN Posts: 275	Better story and acting really whoulc have done the best. Even without Venus and more Shredder if the stories still sucked nothing would have changed.

04-05-2004, 10:44 AM	#3
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	Better stories No Venus Better costumes

04-05-2004, 10:45 AM	#4
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	You got a few hours? Or maybe just a few months until I finish my re-write. Anyway, I seriously think this show could have been better if they tweaked everything just a little. If they'd changed just one aspect it would have still sucked, but a little improvement across the board might have gone a long way. Better writing and characterization would have gone a long way. Catch phrases are bad. While I know that everyone wanted to see Shredder in all his iconic glory, but I rather liked the focus on the Dragonlord. Wish Shredder had a better going out, though. As for Venus herself... First, don't use slang, especially if you don't understand it. I don't mind her messing up her spells because she's still an apprentice, so that's to be expected. The guys needed an attitude adjustment as well.

04-05-2004, 01:45 PM	#8
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	They did have a budget. As I've said earlier, they had to make the first film on a budget to afford Henson's involvement. On the other side of the coin, they are still leaps and bounds better than the Christmas special suits... my eyes burned. Maybe it would have been better as a cartoon... but then we wouldn't have the cool show now.... __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

04-05-2004, 03:10 PM	#9
~~Jarrah White~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,394	Here's what I'd do, 1) No cartoon noises, they just became annoying. 2) More Shredder, though I trust he would have returned in the second season. 3) Make it as dark as the Mirage comics. 4) On the whole, I like the turtle costumes expect you can see the line between the mask and the rest of the suit, seal it up I say. And I think Shredder's costume could use for spikes.

04-05-2004, 04:52 PM	#10
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	Give me some gasoline and a lighter. I'll make it better. __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

04-05-2004, 05:15 PM	#11
TheRATKING Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 679	not haveing it .... well no at the time i was happy to have it cuz it was turtles okay so what could have been better ummmm........ everything it was just really poorly done __________________ "The riddle is yours... that which can sustain you is within your reach... but not yet within your grasp" R.K. issue 55 vol. 1

04-05-2004, 09:22 PM	#12
Lisardo Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 702	I chose 'No Venus' in the poll. But also less Dragonlord, less cheesiness, more Vam Mi. __________________ "Look I'm not gonna stop doing what's right just because it's not appreciated." -Leo

04-09-2004, 03:53 PM	#13
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	get rid of venus, better acting, and storys. and make it so its not so cartooney. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

04-09-2004, 05:24 PM	#15
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	why was splinter in the other dimension. i only saw a few eps of that show... __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

04-09-2004, 05:37 PM	#16
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	it's the realm of dreams, a place for the enlightend to go and meditate and kind like a chat forum. But Dragon lord kinda took it over and kidnapped him. answer ur question?? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

04-09-2004, 08:51 PM	#17
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	Wasn't April missing from that show? That must've been bad. But I'm not sure, as I haven't had the "pleasure" of watching it. __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

04-10-2004, 01:03 PM	#19
redsai4lex Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: by the TMNT's side Posts: 546	no venus & more shredder

04-10-2004, 01:52 PM	#20
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,323	Shredder shoiuld have remained a consistant threat, to bring in a bunch of mary-sue characters was pretty stupid, if you're going to bring in new characters, associate them with a stronger MIRAGE character like Hun was in the new Ninja Turtles cartoon, he was the right hand man of a REAL major villain like Shredder THAT was the problem with Dragon Lord, he was a great villian...yeah..a good POWER RANGERS villian, and TMNT IS'NT Power Rangers, some gormless soul in the Saban office thought that was the case, before any of the ideas for Season 2 came around, the show was axed Venus was the worst original character of all, the shark-jumper, the show-stoppa, the maimed event. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks