VOTE!!

GreenWillow · 09-24-2002, 07:53 AM

~And now after a brief delay, it is time to get out there and vote!
Remember, we are voting for the best fics within each category. You may vote for your top three choices, but you may only vote once.
In order to vote in a category you need to have read all the stories in that category. I know this could mean a *lot* of reading, so for longer fics you need to only have read the first three or four chapters so you have a feel for the story. We're using the Honor system for that (how appropriate!) so be Honorable!

And now of course, no voting for your own stories.
Voting ends October 19, 2002.

http://www.behindthemasks.com/awards...les/voting.htm

*Skeletoncrew* · 10-02-2002, 10:09 AM

*Bump!* Ahem. Just thought I'd put this a little higher up so that everyone would be reminded.

GreenWillow · 10-02-2002, 10:27 AM

~Good idea! Thank you!

~GW

*Skeletoncrew* · 10-02-2002, 11:07 AM

Yeah, well, I had to find it because I needed the link. Gotta do some reading before I can vote!

*Skeletoncrew* · 10-06-2002, 10:38 PM

*BUMP* The deadline draws ever closer...

**Machias Banshee** · 10-10-2002, 05:51 PM

*bump*
I Totally agree...

*Skeletoncrew* · 10-11-2002, 10:54 AM

I need to get to work reading! I'm only ready to vote in about two categories!

**HorseTechie** · 10-11-2002, 12:17 PM

mhh... after the craziness of this week, I don't need anymore reminders of how well I'm failing!

*Jade Green* · 10-11-2002, 06:02 PM

I voted... for what I could...
*ish now of to create some plot for shomething else*

**HorseTechie** · 10-11-2002, 07:11 PM

*realizes she forgot to nominate Fantasim*

Oops... well, I usually try to nominate all the fics I host on my that hadn't had a run at it before. Maybe next year!

GreenWillow · 10-11-2002, 08:01 PM

~Well, if it's any consolation, I am nowhere near my goals in terms of what I wanted to have read by this weekend. Ack!
Remember, for those mega-long stories, you only need to read the first few chapters to get a feel for the story.
There have been a few objections to this, most notably Dawnatello herself, but personally I am really leaning toward the idea of placing the emphasis next year on *that* year's works. There is no doubt room to honor the oldies, but if we keep leaving the choices wide open like we had this year, this is going to become increasingly unwieldy.
I also liked Mikey QM's suggestion that we can only nominate one or two fics per category.
Most of that discussion took place on the mailing lists. What do you all think of these ideas?

~GW

*terran631* · 10-11-2002, 08:09 PM

I was thinking why not have a few categories that are "readers choice" and then the remaining be voted on by a panel of judges who have time to read all the stories. This would eliminate the "favoritism" complaints as well as being able to keep all the older stories in too. Everyone can still nominate but the final judging is by panel only and then of course a couple "readers choice" I dunno...just my thoughts

*Jade Green* · 10-11-2002, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HorseTechie

*realizes she forgot to nominate Fantasim*

Oops... well, I usually try to nominate all the fics I host on my that hadn't had a run at it before. Maybe next year!

Hrm... gives me time to edit it

**HorseTechie** · 10-11-2002, 08:11 PM

*clears throat... is glad MikeyQM doesn't frequent these forums* heh.. yeah, he's just gotten a liiiiittle touchy about them.

But yeah, I think we did to do something to better manage the reading load, and the numbers of fics that are nominated each year. I'll widdle my ideas down to (which can be one or the other, or all):

1. Having a Classic/Oldies fic section (which includes old incomplete fics)
2. Nominate just 2 fics per category, as Mikey said
3. And... an easier to use form for both Host and Voter

GreenWillow · 10-11-2002, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terran631

I was thinking why not have a few categories that are "readers choice" and then the remaining be voted on by a panel of judges who have time to read all the stories. This would eliminate the "favoritism" complaints as well as being able to keep all the older stories in too. Everyone can still nominate but the final judging is by panel only and then of course a couple "readers choice" I dunno...just my thoughts

~That's an interesting suggestion-- it'd make it even more like the Academy Awards-- or any of those other big awards programs.
I liked using a panal of voters/Judges for the little Fan Fic Challenge and Mutant Hybrid Contests I did this year. Takes the pressure off people who feel they *should* vote but have a choice not to and then feel guilty...heh... or do a less than thorough job of it...hrmm......

~GW

*terran631* · 10-11-2002, 08:31 PM

I lurk on all the lists and have heard the...ahem...discussions and debates on the awards. I don't get into confrontations such as, because I'm not doing the awards who am I to criticize. But with every complaint, this was the one thing that kept running through my mind. I know there are a few readers out there who like me, have read dang near everything on the net whether on ff.net or private sites. So, if you go with that idea next year I volunteer to help.

GreenWillow · 10-11-2002, 08:41 PM

~If I have a say in the matter, you're on, Terran!
Don't know that I will, though.....

~GW

**HorseTechie** · 10-12-2002, 09:41 AM

Ooh.. I also agree with Terran's idea.

I would have mentioned it... but I remembered how Dawn's first intent for these awards was to get the general reading public to sniff out and read more fics. But as year year passes, that well-meaning intention is starting to fail... hence people run short on time and just vote for what they know.

So yeah, the reader's choice category(s) sounds good to make up for that, indeed.

SeaThreePeeO · 10-12-2002, 01:22 PM

I'VE DONE IT!!

I am really very proud of myself.

Days of locking myself away and endless print outs later I have managed to read all of the fanfiction needed to vote!

*Pats self on back*

Mind you filling out the voting form probably took me just as long

Now I must really go and buy another ink cart for my printer

GreenWillow · 10-14-2002, 06:10 AM

~Now that is dedication!
And thank yous to everyone who is participating. I really do appreciate all the brainstorming. (In part because my brain looks like an "After" photo of the latest tropical storm...)
Really, thank you all for your enthusiasm!

~GW

09-24-2002, 07:53 AM	#1
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	VOTE!! ~And now after a brief delay, it is time to get out there and vote! Remember, we are voting for the best fics within each category. You may vote for your top three choices, but you may only vote once. In order to vote in a category you need to have read all the stories in that category. I know this could mean a lot of reading, so for longer fics you need to only have read the first three or four chapters so you have a feel for the story. We're using the Honor system for that (how appropriate!) so be Honorable! And now of course, no voting for your own stories. Voting ends October 19, 2002. http://www.behindthemasks.com/awards...les/voting.htm __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-02-2002, 10:09 AM	#2
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	Bump! Ahem. Just thought I'd put this a little higher up so that everyone would be reminded. __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

10-02-2002, 10:27 AM	#3
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	~Good idea! Thank you! ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-02-2002, 11:07 AM	#4
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	Yeah, well, I had to find it because I needed the link. Gotta do some reading before I can vote! __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

10-06-2002, 10:38 PM	#5
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	BUMP The deadline draws ever closer... __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

10-10-2002, 05:51 PM	#6
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	bump I Totally agree...

10-11-2002, 10:54 AM	#7
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	I need to get to work reading! I'm only ready to vote in about two categories! __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

10-11-2002, 12:17 PM	#8
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	mhh... after the craziness of this week, I don't need anymore reminders of how well I'm failing!

10-11-2002, 06:02 PM	#9
Jade Green ReyeJaye Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,873	I voted... for what I could... ish now of to create some plot for shomething else

10-11-2002, 07:11 PM	#10
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	realizes she forgot to nominate Fantasim Oops... well, I usually try to nominate all the fics I host on my that hadn't had a run at it before. Maybe next year!

10-11-2002, 08:01 PM	#11
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	~Well, if it's any consolation, I am nowhere near my goals in terms of what I wanted to have read by this weekend. Ack! Remember, for those mega-long stories, you only need to read the first few chapters to get a feel for the story. There have been a few objections to this, most notably Dawnatello herself, but personally I am really leaning toward the idea of placing the emphasis next year on that year's works. There is no doubt room to honor the oldies, but if we keep leaving the choices wide open like we had this year, this is going to become increasingly unwieldy. I also liked Mikey QM's suggestion that we can only nominate one or two fics per category. Most of that discussion took place on the mailing lists. What do you all think of these ideas? ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-11-2002, 08:09 PM	#12
terran631 The Defender of Splinter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Third Rock from the Sun Posts: 3,948	I was thinking why not have a few categories that are "readers choice" and then the remaining be voted on by a panel of judges who have time to read all the stories. This would eliminate the "favoritism" complaints as well as being able to keep all the older stories in too. Everyone can still nominate but the final judging is by panel only and then of course a couple "readers choice" I dunno...just my thoughts

10-11-2002, 08:11 PM	#14
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	clears throat... is glad MikeyQM doesn't frequent these forums heh.. yeah, he's just gotten a liiiiittle touchy about them. But yeah, I think we did to do something to better manage the reading load, and the numbers of fics that are nominated each year. I'll widdle my ideas down to (which can be one or the other, or all): 1. Having a Classic/Oldies fic section (which includes old incomplete fics) 2. Nominate just 2 fics per category, as Mikey said 3. And... an easier to use form for both Host and Voter

10-11-2002, 08:31 PM	#16
terran631 The Defender of Splinter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Third Rock from the Sun Posts: 3,948	I lurk on all the lists and have heard the...ahem...discussions and debates on the awards. I don't get into confrontations such as, because I'm not doing the awards who am I to criticize. But with every complaint, this was the one thing that kept running through my mind. I know there are a few readers out there who like me, have read dang near everything on the net whether on ff.net or private sites. So, if you go with that idea next year I volunteer to help.

10-11-2002, 08:41 PM	#17
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	~If I have a say in the matter, you're on, Terran! Don't know that I will, though..... ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-12-2002, 09:41 AM	#18
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Ooh.. I also agree with Terran's idea. I would have mentioned it... but I remembered how Dawn's first intent for these awards was to get the general reading public to sniff out and read more fics. But as year year passes, that well-meaning intention is starting to fail... hence people run short on time and just vote for what they know. So yeah, the reader's choice category(s) sounds good to make up for that, indeed.

10-12-2002, 01:22 PM	#19
SeaThreePeeO Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Void Posts: 1,345	I'VE DONE IT!! I am really very proud of myself. Days of locking myself away and endless print outs later I have managed to read all of the fanfiction needed to vote! Pats self on back Mind you filling out the voting form probably took me just as long Now I must really go and buy another ink cart for my printer __________________ Zombies, once you get past the stench of rotting flesh and their unhealthy obsession with brains, they're really nice people.

10-14-2002, 06:10 AM	#20
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	~Now that is dedication! And thank yous to everyone who is participating. I really do appreciate all the brainstorming. (In part because my brain looks like an "After" photo of the latest tropical storm...) Really, thank you all for your enthusiasm! ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.