The Sony Thread

[Peanut]

A bit annoying indeed but wasn't it also really awesome? When I fought him he snuck up on me at one point which was just incredibly cool.

It was still awesome. It was totally different from any other boss fight. And yeah, he totally did that to me too. I actually spent the time to beat him by decreasing his stamina using the tranq gun. That took forever.

[AquaParade]

The first official Metal Gear Solid 4 review was released in UK Official Playstation magazine today. Anyone pick it up? Willing to scan it?

[Mecha Cow]

There have been scans of it floating around the internet for about a week now. It got a 10/10, surprise surprise.

[AquaParade]

Woa, really? I was told It just came out today...Think you could help me locate one?

[Mecha Cow]

I don't know what the board's policy regarding scans is, but I saw them on Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/) and you could probably still find them by doing a search for the game's title. If that fails, there's always Google.

[愛]

Scans are all good, you crazy Euro-bastard.

[Mecha Cow]

I'm still too lazy to look for them myself. I also forgot to mention the review apparently has some spoilers, so read at your own risk.

[Peanut]

Just finished MGS3. What a great ending, and a great game overall. Definitely my favourite of the MGS games. You really feel for Big Boss at the end of the game. F*cked over again and again.

[R-iZZy]

Yeah, you do gotta feel sorry for him, but I mainly feel for The Boss. She had to kill her husband, betray her country and her protege, hand over her child; all for her country. And though she died a hero, she had to be known to her country as a traitor.

I don't see how anyone could be that patriotic.

[Peanut]

Yeah, man. That's some rough sh*t. It makes what Big Boss does with the creation of FOXHOUND and Outer Heaven make so much more sense.

I'm playing through again, and trying out some of the tricks and funny things I've read about the game online. Wanting to get more info on Big Boss, and hearing that Portable Ops on PSP was about him as well, I went looking for it, but all I can find is Portable Ops +, which is about the multiplayer or some sh*t. I have no idea, but it sucks if that's true.

[Jed]

I think Portable Ops+ has its own storyline but it's completely seperate from the original game and not as good. Not that Portable Ops is that good anyway.

EDIT: Nevermind, just read the wikipedia page for +, it's got a story mode as in there's random maps to play through but no actual story to hold it all together.

[AquaParade]

Who else is going for the MGS4 ps3 bundle? I just got a new job and figured now is the perfect time to pick up a next gen console. I'm gonna go for this bundle, but Best Buy tell's m they dont know when they are getting it in...I also heard gamestop is a first come first serve thing...and that might be a possibility. How would you guys approach this?

[Brodie]

Try to preorder through Gamestop/EB/Gamecrazy.

[AquaParade]

I heard it's first come, first serve with those guys...which doesn't really bother me...I've never lined up for games on opening days or anything though. What time would you expect me to have to show up to get one of these babies?

[Brodie]

10:30 pm for the midnight opening....

[Peanut]

I just pre-ordered a MGS4 bundle at Futureshop....lol. Two PS3's.

[Mr. Snackpants]

I just pre-ordered a MGS4 bundle at Futureshop....lol. Two PS3's.

WTF are you going to do with two of 'em?

[Brodie]

Send one to NY.

[AquaParade]

I called Gamestop and they told me they did'nt know when they would be getting them in...I dont know if this is BS or not, but I'm really trying to get my hands on one of these. I've yet to get a next-gen console, yet I'm a huge video game fan. Mgs3 being my favorite. What are the chances of them releasing the ps3 bundle during the midnight opening?

[Peanut]

WTF are you going to do with two of 'em?

I keep asking myself the same question.

[Mr. Snackpants]

You should probably sell the other...

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[AquaParade]

I'm freakin out guy's:P
I need to get the 80 gig bundle. I'm a huge fan of video games, yet until now have just not had the money to afford any next generation consoles. Metal Gear Solid 3 is my favorite game ever, and I just got a new job a few weeks ago...Do the math.

I just wanna know what you guys think my best bet is for getting my hands on one of these next week. I added up my total paycheck for Friday and I should be getting around $630. I went on the Konami site to see if I could order one from Japan and not pay tax...but they only have the $600 dollar bundle, just putting me out of luck.
Gamestop informed me that they don't know when they would be getting them in...if they would just tell me, I'd be willing to wait in line for hours if I had to...basically, someone tell me whatsup...what are my best chances? Thank's in advance.(You're my hero!)

[Peanut]

Dude, just pre-order a damn bundle. That way you're guaranteed it. And I'd say if you hit up somewhere like Best Buy on launch day you shouldn't be too hard pressed to find a bundle. If not, is it so bad to buy a 40gig and the game?

[AquaParade]

Wow Peanut...I was under the impression that the 40 gig's were more then $400. These are BC for ps2 games right?
Alright, one more question...Will Metal Gear Solid 4 most likely be impossible to find on launch day without pre-ordering one? I wanna go for the bundle, but I'm starting to wonder if it would be more wise to just go and pick up a ps3 a few days before the games out, and pre-order a copy of metal gear if it is not too late. Appreciated!

[Peanut]

40G actually don't have PS2 BC, so if that's super important to you, I would just try your hardest to get the 80gig Metal Gear bundle. As far as I'm aware, the 40G is the $399.99 model, while the 80G Metal Gear bundle is $499.99. The bundle is a great deal, because not only do you get the PS2 BC, but you also get a bigger hard drive, MGS4 and a Dualshock 3, for only $100 more.

But if you find that getting the bundle is impossible and you really must play MGS4 on launch day, I will 100% guarantee you that you'll be able to find a copy of MGS4 without a pre-order on release day.

[AquaParade]

Thank's Peanut. I appreciate all the info. Is is possible to buy BC later on if I really need it? Would that require buying a 80gig hard drive, or something of the sort?

And Me being able to find a copy on launch day is a....:o..Peanut guarentee? I even had trouble with Resident Evil 4...So I hope you're right. Also hoping I wont have any trouble finding a 40 gig ps3. These are pretty highly available by now right?

[Peanut]

Nah, man. BC is only available on certain iterations of the PS3. You can't buy a new HD for it or anything. You can hook up external drives, but that won't change the fact that there's no PS2 innards in it, or that software emulation isn't supported. If you get a no BC PS3, you're stuck with no BC for the long-haul.

But, yeah. You'll 100% be able to find a copy of MGS4. I don't think it's possible to walk into a store like Best Buy in release day of a huge game and not get it anymore. If you could pick up games like Halo 3 and GTAIV on day one without hassle, you'll be able to get MGS4 no problem. And 40G PS3's are all over the place, you definitely shouldn't have a problem finding one of those, especially if you decide to get one early.

[AquaParade]

Meh, I could always pick up a ps2 if I was dying to play some old games...Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3 are the only ones that come to mind anyways. Or I could just stay busy with a blu ray player. Are you pretty happy overall with you're Ps3 Peanut?

[Peanut]

I guess. As a person who bought it at full price ($800+ at the time in Canada) I can't really say it was worth it. I've only really really enjoyed a single (exclusive) game on it thus far, (Heavenly Sword) but it's easily the best upscaling DVD player on the market, for my money. DVD's, especially newer ones, look fantastic on it. It's really really lacking in the game department, though. I can say without doubt that if I didn't have my 360, I'd be an extremely disappointed gamer. But I think that stems more from my need to consume game after game in rapid succession than anything else. PS3 does have a bunch of amazing games for people with only a single next-gen console. 3rd party stuff, of course.

If you need any help on anything, just ask. I'm always glad to help someone with a genuine interest in games.

[AquaParade]

I'm seriously drooling over next week. First Next- generation console, first time being caught up in the video-game world since ps2, and sequel to my favorite game of all time.:D

To keep discussion going...Am I the only one who was bummed when all the clues we're coming out pointing towards Big Boss being the main character in MGS3?...Was I also the only one who ended up loving him even more then Snake?

[R-iZZy]

If BC is so important, I'd suggest just keeping your PS2 if you still have it. The 80G PS3 isn't compatible with every single PS2 title; it runs an emulator that's compatible with over 90% of PS2 games.

I've had the MGS4 Bundle pre-ordered for a while now, but I figure my PS2 can still be put to good use (especially considering it's modded and everything, lol). Anyway, I don't know if anyone caught the interview with Hideo Kojima with gameplay footage (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/878/878984p1.html). Sweet stuff.

[Raven]

To keep discussion going...Am I the only one who was bummed when all the clues we're coming out pointing towards Big Boss being the main character in MGS3?...Was I also the only one who ended up loving him even more then Snake?

Cant say I was ever dissappointed with the idea of making Big Boss the main focus of MGS3 when they were first releasing information and screen shots of the game, I like how Kojimia kept us guessing the whole time before any real clear evidence was released of who the main character would be.

But yes I did gain a huge respect for Naked Snake and found his story more tragic then solids. Plus MGS3 had such a great cast of characters, the boss's demises at your own hands was probably the greastest moment of the whole game. Honestly though I still cant say its my favorite of the series. I love it to death but MGS 2 has been my favorite hands down since the second I played the demo that came with Zone of the enders.

[Mecha Cow]

I love it to death but MGS 2 has been my favorite hands down since the second I played the demo that came with Zone of the enders.
Nice to see MGS2 getting some love, I know a lot of people didn't like it. Personally I think it's great, even though MGS3 is my favorite. And yes, Naked Snake > Solid Snake.

[AquaParade]

About to go pick up my 40 gig PS3...anyone know any places where it comes with a game or a movie or something? I have to save the rest of my money for Metal gear solid 4, and have just enough for both...so I'm hoping to get something to keep me busy.

[Mr. Snackpants]

About to go pick up my 40 gig PS3...anyone know any places where it comes with a game or a movie or something? I have to save the rest of my money for Metal gear solid 4, and have just enough for both...so I'm hoping to get something to keep me busy.

I saw Wal-Mart was giving away $100 gift cards w/ the purchase of a PS3 or a Blu Ray player. The sale goes until the 14th. Not sure if there were any limits as to how many they would give out or anything like that but I plan on checkin' it out.

[Cure]

So...uh...what's up with Sony? Lolz.

[raphael_is_cool]

I got a LittleBigPlanet beta key. Yay!

Now to wait for it to finish downloading... :ohwell:

[Peanut]

So, I guess LBP is delayed now. That's fan-f*cking-tastic. I hate religions.

[Cure]

So, I guess LBP is delayed now. That's fan-f*cking-tastic. I hate religions.

Like, everywhere? I thought it was just Europe.

[Peanut]

Nah. It was confirmed this afternoon to be worldwide.

[Dr. Doom]

We have it. At my store.

[Mecha Cow]

You can't sell it; all shipped copies are going to be recalled.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Religion ruins everything for everyone. It's the Ocarina of Time "chanting" debacle all over again. Islamic phrase gets stuck in game by dev, some random asshat gets offended, game gets delayed and recalled. Lovely.

I hope to heaven it doesn't get delayed into next month or I won't be able to pick it up thanks to my yearly trip to hell. Ordering these things off Amazon blows because their stuff takes forever to arrive, but that's looking more and more attractive right about now.

[Cure]

This has nothing to do with anything, but Montana Max having his hand on Buster's tummy like that in your sig really bothers me.

[Dr. Doom]

It's delayed a week.

[Mecha Cow]

One week isn't a huge deal, but I don't understand why they couldn't just patch the offending songs out.

[raphael_is_cool]

One week isn't a huge deal, but I don't understand why they couldn't just patch the offending songs out.

Some people aren't connected to thar internetz. The fools!

[Peanut]

One week isn't a huge deal, but I don't understand why they couldn't just patch the offending songs out.

The problem with the one week delay is that it puts it out in the same week as Fallout 3. LBP takes a backseat for me.

[raphael_is_cool]

Okay. So now my 360 has RRODed I will not have a new game until LBP is finally out :x

[ThirdMarioBro]

One week isn't a huge deal, but I don't understand why they couldn't just patch the offending songs out.

That was the plan, but Sony overruled them because Islam gets special treatment. When you live in a country where South Park is allowed to make fun of Jesus, but not Mohammad--something isn't right.

This has nothing to do with anything, but Montana Max having his hand on Buster's tummy like that in your sig really bothers me.

Blame the animators. That's just how it was in the original shot.

[Mecha Cow]

Actually, they are now going to delay and patch the game.

[raphael_is_cool]

So, anyone in the Resistance 2 beta?

I got my key yesterday and have been playing the co-operative a little bit. It really has a simplified Team Fortress 2 meets MMO style to it that I quite like. And I've found the class I'm best with so I don't let the team down. Finished top of my team in about half of the times I've played as well.

[Peanut]

Resistance is seriously the most mediocre piece of sh*t to get praise EVER.

[raphael_is_cool]

I only ever played the first briefly. Was never tempted to get it. But you don't say no to a free beta...well, you can but I figured it's worth a try. The co-op multi-player is really good.

It's never gonna be a Halo 3-beater but it's something my non-360 friends (aka. fools) will play.

[Peanut]

Lawl. Yeah. Free is free, I guess.

I just couldn't take the first Resistance. Especially the build-up it got when the PS3 launched. It was totally one of those launch games that benefited from being just that. Like PDZ for the 360.

[Hannah]

I played LBP last night, and it was even better than I expected. The user-made levels are so ridiculously terrible, though.

[raphael_is_cool]

I played LBP last night, and it was even better than I expected. The user-made levels are so ridiculously terrible, though.

A lot of them are. But there are some spectacular ones too.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Resistance is seriously the most mediocre piece of sh*t to get praise EVER.

I got a PS3 this weekend, mainly for the Blu Ray. I figured I should pick one game up so I grabbed Resistance because it's talked about as one of the great 1st party PS3 games and because it was cheap.

Wow do I agree with you here. I couldn't believe this game got such good marks. This game is average at best.

[Barkworm]

A God of War 3 gameplay trailer will be shown next Sunday at the Spike TV VG awards. God, I'm so stoked.

[Ninjinister]

All right guys, serious question: My parents are getting my brother Guitar Hero Aerosmith for his birthday for PS2. Knowing him, he's going to want to run out and buy all of the other PS2 games in the series afterwards. Are all games compatible with all models of guitar controller?

[Peanut]

Yes.

A God of War 3 gameplay trailer will be shown next Sunday at the Spike TV VG awards. God, I'm so stoked.

Totally. So amped for that.

[Ninjinister]

Yes.


Thanks. I wasn't sure since the only Guitar Hero I've played was the second one, and that was on 360.

[Peanut]

So, um...I guess...Home is coming out now? Uh...cool?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I could care less until they update the arcade. Not interested until then.

[Peanut]

I'll one up you by saying not interested ever!

[R-iZZy]

Home = The end of my social life.

Hell yeah to the God of War III gameplay footage. I've been waiting to see that since the little teaser that came out at E3. I need something to subdue the anger of ending the last game on a cliffhanger.

[Peanut]

Home = The end of my social life.

Is this...like...sarcasm ooooor...

[raphael_is_cool]

I like GamesRadar's title:

Home: Empty Mall Simulator

[R-iZZy]

Is this...like...sarcasm ooooor...
LOL. Slightly exaggerated sarcasm.

I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would. It's actually kind of disappointing.

[Peanut]

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Loooooooove.

[Barkworm]

Meh, I want the video in HD!!!!

[Mecha Cow]

That looks badass.

Also, Home is the most awkward thing ever. It's almost kind of funny how stupid it is. Almost.

[Barkworm]

I was kind of underwhelmed by the GoW III trailer. On the other hand, I want that game NOW!!!

[ThirdMarioBro]

That looks badass.

Also, Home is the most awkward thing ever. It's almost kind of funny how stupid it is. Almost.

Home is the biggest piece of crap ever. Hey guys! Let's go to the theater to watch commercials for Sony movies while douches stand in front of the screen and dance! Hey guys! Let's go to the arcade to watch other people play a game of pool or bowling or (insert bad arcade game here) instead of actually getting to yourself. Hey guys! Let's go spend real dollars to wear virtual product placement clothing for our avatars and spread the good word about the Sony brand and it's software partners!

What a piece of sh*t.

[Mr. Snackpants]

I got a $50 gift card to Gamestop for Christmas so I took advantage of their buy 2 get 1 free deal. I picked up MSG4 because I figured it's a must have for any PS3 owner.

Now I owned the first one for PS, and I vaguely remember renting one of the games for PS2. My question is should I buy #2 and #3 or just go ahead and play #4?

[Mecha Cow]

You definitely need to play 2 and 3 first. The story won't make much sense to you if you don't (but to be fair it won't even if you do), and a lot of the emotional catharsis (shut up) will be lost and basically lead to a greatly diminished experience.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Motherf*****. I am completely out of the loop. I had no idea the new generations of PS3s don't support PS2 games. Pity because I just bought MGS 2 and 3 and was about to play them. Now they'll just sit there.

[Mecha Cow]

That sucks dude, though you really should have done some research. Maybe you can borrow a PS2 from someone?

[Ra]

Wait, they don't?

God ****in' damnit... at least I know for sure now...

[Mr. Snackpants]

That sucks dude, though you really should have done some research. Maybe you can borrow a PS2 from someone?

Yeah, I probably can.

I just remember them being backwards compatible when it launched and it just stuck in my head. I never would've figured they would take that out.

[Kendamu]

I remember reading something about Sony wanting to sell PS2 games Virtual Console style for PS3 owners in the future.

[Brodie]

Yeah, I probably can.

I just remember them being backwards compatible when it launched and it just stuck in my head. I never would've figured they would take that out.

I was pretty sure only certain types of PS3s were BC with PS2 games. Like, the 80 gig wasn't, and the larger HD ones were...?

[Mr. Snackpants]

I was pretty sure only certain types of PS3s were BC with PS2 games. Like, the 80 gig wasn't, and the larger HD ones were...?

After I popped in MGS 2 and found out it wouldn't play I googled it and it was something like only 1st gen 40 GB systems were partially BC.

I was excited to buy all the PS2 games I missed out on while I was playing Madden and Tony Hawk. Stuff like the MGS, Resident Evil, Kingdom Hearts, God of War, Okami, ect. I was walking through GameStop and they were like $15 max.

Oh well. I'll probably buy one off someone in the dorms when I get back from break. I'm not paying $50+. I bet I could get one for $30 or so.

[Mecha Cow]

(I guess this goes in here)

Metal Gear Solid 'Group therapy' (http://kotaku.com/5122625/metal-gear-solid-4-cast-does-group-therapy-improv) (MGS4 spoilers)

This is hilarious. :lol:

[AquaParade]

Does anyone know where to find a playstation 2 Slim Power chord replacement. I bought one that was compatible with a ps2....just not ps2 slim. Having a really hard time locating one. Anyone got any ideas?

[Peanut]

There are three levels of PS3 BC support, and they're spread out over several different drive sizes. There's full support, which is in first generation PS3's that contain the entire emotion engine chip from the PS2; then there's software emulation contained in the second generation of PS3's, which only works on select games; then there's no BC at all in every new third generation PS3.

It's completely retarded, and pretty funny considering they slammed Microsoft on the BC point over and over again.

[XERO]

I was kind of underwhelmed by the GoW III trailer. On the other hand, I want that game NOW!!!

I'm sure it'll be off the charts.

Heck, it looks like Kratos can wall run a little now.:P

[ThirdMarioBro]

Let's face it. We're getting to the point that hardware is too complex, and since hardware manufacturers like to switch chip manufacturers every other generation, they're trying to get us away from Backwards Compatibility and get the market to a point where games are treated as disposable entertainment.

It sucks ass, but that's where we're headed.

[Peanut]

We're not "getting" anywhere. It's been like this since games started.

Backwards compatibility hasn't exactly been around since the beginning, and when you look at it, only one new console has ever had full BC capabilities, and that was the PS2. The only other thing to pull off full BC were the countless incarnations of the Gameboy, and even that started to die out when the DS couldn't play original GB games, and only got worse when they decided to pull the GBA slot from the DSi.

I think claiming we're owed BC is slightly ridiculous, as that's never been the rule, but the exception. Sure, it'd be cool if I could throw any old game into one of my new consoles and play it, but I had to plug in my NES to play NES games for the past 18 or so years, so that isn't really something I mind so much.

[Cure]

Backwards compatibility hasn't exactly been around since the beginning, and when you look at it, only one new console has ever had full BC capabilities, and that was the PS2.

There's also the Wii, lolololol.

[Peanut]

There's also the Wii, lolololol.

Hence the "new" in bold. lawl

[Ninjinister]

(I guess this goes in here)

Metal Gear Solid 'Group therapy' (http://kotaku.com/5122625/metal-gear-solid-4-cast-does-group-therapy-improv) (MGS4 spoilers)

This is hilarious. :lol:

I saw this late last night. Laughed my ass off.

[Krang]

Does anyone know where to find a playstation 2 Slim Power chord replacement. I bought one that was compatible with a ps2....just not ps2 slim. Having a really hard time locating one. Anyone got any ideas?
Your best bet would probably be eBay if you want an official one. You could also see if Amazon, GameStop, or any other stores have a third-party replacement.

[ThirdMarioBro]

We're not "getting" anywhere. It's been like this since games started.

Backwards compatibility hasn't exactly been around since the beginning, and when you look at it, only one new console has ever had full BC capabilities, and that was the PS2. The only other thing to pull off full BC were the countless incarnations of the Gameboy, and even that started to die out when the DS couldn't play original GB games, and only got worse when they decided to pull the GBA slot from the DSi.

I think claiming we're owed BC is slightly ridiculous, as that's never been the rule, but the exception. Sure, it'd be cool if I could throw any old game into one of my new consoles and play it, but I had to plug in my NES to play NES games for the past 18 or so years, so that isn't really something I mind so much.

Well, as you know, I'm one of those anal retentive preservationists nerds. The old hardware isn't going to be around forever, so I like to know I'll be able to play a little NHL '94 or Daytona USA in 20 years on a whim. Up to this point, getting emulators for your old games hasn't been a problem since old hardware is easy to emulate thanks to low-end tech. But home PC technology has capped out as of late. Coders got Dreamcast running on PC at full-spec, but I don't see any more advancements beyond that for many more years. The GameCube and PS2 emulators kinda' stalled out because the tech just isn't there.

I know that for a fan at least, trying to write a GameCube or PS2 emulator for PC is a pure pain in the ass, but for the company that designed the platform, it shouldn't be so much of an issue. I'm spoiled. The PlayStation brand had BC solid until Sony saw they could squeeze us for select classics like Nintendo's overpriced [piece of sh*t] Virtual Console. Problem is, what exactly defines a "classic"? I can assume me and Sony would disagree on what qualifies. As for the Xbox 360, I can barely play my current gen games without the thing red-ringing me, so BC is the farthest thing from my mind there.

Bah, to hell with it. I'm so far in the hole on modern classics right about now that BC should be the least of my gaming concerns.

*edit*

Okay, so I'm a moron. Apparently PS2 emulation did indeed take off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyRHBSfzQWc). Cool. I'd love to put that in the arcade cabinet I hope to one day build.

*edit again*

Okay, so I guess I'm just an ignorant tool or something. GameCube emulation apparently isn't half bad either (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xaG44yYVlA).

*final edit*

Jesus Christ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-NMqkA_dmQ). What the hell did I miss?

[Peanut]

The PCSX2 isn't very good, though. My computer can run Crysis without problems, but god forbid I try and run a decent PS2 game on it. Some games work perfectly, but they're few and far between.

[AquaParade]

Hey guys...Need a sony/mgs expert. I'm playing Subsistence(Snake eater re-release), and every time i try and chokehold an enemy, as soon as i try to drag them away, snake slits their throat.

here's the thing...the "o" is supposed to be context sensitive, and I'm using a playstation 1 controller...Is this the reason that I slit the guys throat every...single...time?

[Dr. Doom]

I'd guess that's the problem. Maybe the first Dualshock didn't have that pressure sensitivity, I dunno.

[AquaParade]

I'd guess that's the problem. Maybe the first Dualshock didn't have that pressure sensitivity, I dunno.

Unfortunately, that's my guess too. I have a dualshock2, but it's problem is that one of the buttons is stuck or something, because everytime i plug it in, I get shoved into first person view, and start spinning around:ohwell:

[Mecha Cow]

The DualShock 1 doesn't have pressure sensitive buttons, no. Your DualShock 2 sounds like it might be miscalibrated or something; try resetting it (I don't know how but it should be in the game manual).

[AquaParade]

The DualShock 1 doesn't have pressure sensitive buttons, no. Your DualShock 2 sounds like it might be miscalibrated or something; try resetting it (I don't know how but it should be in the game manual).

Thanks for the confirmation/information haha.
No manuals here, but at least I can start searching the web for some info on that. Thanks again.

[AquaParade]

Gah....anyone know how to reset a dualshock 2?

[Peanut]

I didn't even know you could. Your button is probably just broken. Controller buttons can break completely from even the smallest fall. I had a PS3 controller fall 2 feet onto a carpet and the triggers stopped working. Same goes for a 360 controller, but that was 1 foot onto hardwood, and the bumpers stopped working.

[Ecto Jedi]

I didn't even know you could. Your button is probably just broken. Controller buttons can break completely from even the smallest fall. I had a PS3 controller fall 2 feet onto a carpet and the triggers stopped working. Same goes for a 360 controller, but that was 1 foot onto hardwood, and the bumpers stopped working.

It's a shame neither Sony nor Microsoft put any effort into making quality products like Nintendo does. LMAO

[ThirdMarioBro]

No, what's a shame is that Sony embeds non-replaceable batteries into their controllers so that you have to replace the whole thing when it won't hold a charge anymore.

[Peanut]

It's a shame neither Sony nor Microsoft put any effort into making quality products like Nintendo does. LMAO

All of my Gamecube controllers, except one, have busted ass springs in the B button and triggers from single uses. I bought 3 to play 4-player Smash, and after one session they were ****ed. I also had two Gamecube's stop reading discs on me, and I had to pay over $70 to get my first Wii fixed, because the heat it generated fried the video card.

So, f*ck them, too. Everything is built like a house of cards at this point.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, pretty much. I miss solid-state media.

http://psp.kombo.com/article.php?artid=5058
Say what you want about the PSP, but damn that sucker looked sexy.

[Mecha Cow]

Anyone see the new Uncharted 2 shots (http://kotaku.com/5145044/first-look-at-uncharted-2-among-thieves-in-action) yet? It looks much better than the first one, which was no slouch in the graphics department to begin with.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Looks like fun. The first one was essentially Indiana Jones, minus the fedora (in regular terminology, awesome). LucasArts needs to take a fu*king lesson from Naughty Dog.

[Peanut]

The last real Indy game on the Xbox and PS2 was great. What the hell are you talking about?

And Uncharted 2 looks like fun, hopefully they do something about the sh*tty combat in this one. Specifically, I hope they fix the jank-ass hit-detection.

[JameO]

Motherf*****. I am completely out of the loop. I had no idea the new generations of PS3s don't support PS2 games. Pity because I just bought MGS 2 and 3 and was about to play them. Now they'll just sit there.

Same here man I feel your pain, I had got a PS3, and then checking Sony's backwards compatability site, it doesn't mention that the 80gb models were different, it just states 80gb and I checked the games I had purchase for my girlfriend to play, which she had been wanting so bad to play over christmas, so I bought them (Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2) and then I get to christmas, throw it in, and didn't work. Then I read online that you would have to get the bundle packs to get an 80gb with BC, but even then its software emulation, so not as reliable. And like Peanut said, I didnt bother checking the difference because of them boasting their capability, but due to struggling sales, to make it cheaper, why not remove the hardware inside, save on cost.

So last week I went to EB and got a used slim ps2 for 100 bucks, not too bad but a purchase I wish I didnt have to do. But I will give Sony credit, I hadn't seen a slim ps2 before....dang its small! And I like the pop up cd player boombox style drive, very nice.

So I feel your pain on this one, its annoying, but I guess you got to do what you got to do, I just think its a stupid move on Sony's part to be OH WE ARE SO GOOD, FULL BC, and then remove it to save money.

On another note, has anyone played Killzone 2, me being a FPS freak, I was wondering what people think of it. From videos I have seen it looks really good.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I just think its a stupid move on Sony's part to be OH WE ARE SO GOOD, FULL BC, and then remove it to save money.

Save money? How about make money. Sony could emulate the PS2 in software easily. They pulled out PS1 emulation too, and that was already perfect, even on the PSP. Why? The smelled the money there was in marking up crappy, two-generation old games and selling them to nostalgic suckers. Thanks Nintendo.

[Dr. Doom]

So last week I went to EB and got a used slim ps2 for 100 bucks

Jesus, they're only $60 here.

[raphael_is_cool]

Save money? How about make money. Sony could emulate the PS2 in software easily. They pulled out PS1 emulation too, and that was already perfect, even on the PSP. Why? The smelled the money there was in marking up crappy, two-generation old games and selling them to nostalgic suckers. Thanks Nintendo.

I seem to remember reading something about it having more to do with the technical side of BC on the PS3. Having to employ people to try and fix all these problems that would occur.

Not defending Sony. Just offering another perspective.

[Peanut]

It was widely proclaimed that hardware BC was cut for cost purposes, and emulation wasn't an interest to them to fix. Now that it's gone completely, Sony can attempt to screw late adopters even more by charging to download PS2 and PS1 games over PSN. Not that they've even announced plans to allow PS2 games to be DL'd over their online service, but it's probably just a matter of time.

TMB is just trying to be an overacting alarmist, as usual.

[ThirdMarioBro]

If the software emulation supposedly doesn't work for technical purposes, then why in the hell do the downloadable PS1 (and eventually PS2) games work? Software emulation. It's a screw job.

[Peanut]

Because they're making money off of downloadable games? They're a business, aren't they? Why hire a group of people to perfect emulation of something you'll never make money on? I don't think anyone will argue that their software emulation was cut out to make room for downloadable PS2 games, but acting like it was the reason BC was cut entirely just isn't right.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, we'll all just download the ISO's of our collections off the internet when our PS2's break down and go from there. I'm through double-dipping.

[Peanut]

Or you could just own a PS3 with hardware based BC like I do. :)

[JameO]

Yeah its clear their motive, and a lot of people are wanting them to release a emulator for free, which is just plain stupid, if they were to release one, it would be the price of a ps2 pretty much, maybe more for all the developing with it. Also without the PS3 they have said due the graphics card in the PS3, just isn't enough to emulate easily, so it would be a lot of work to create an emulator, that would be more reliant on the processing power not the graphic card memory.

Anyways, the console, and a 8mb memory card, and 1 year warranty was 100.

One thing about the PS3 I thought was cool, is that they offer built into the system configuration an option to install another operating system, and have it partitioned to do so as well, so alot of people are installing the linux distro Ubuntu, and then installing a SNES emulator for linux, and there we go! A half decent web browsing system, it runs half decent, can't do anything intensive though, because even though sony offered dual booting into another operating system, that second OS does not have nearly full access to all hardware, they limit you to half the RAM, and you can't use the processor fully because there is no driver released by Sony or creator of the cell processor to allow the use of multiple cores. Pretty neat idea though.

[Ninjinister]

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/movie/april_fool/index_j.html

Colonel! Colonel! COLONEEEEEEEEEEEL!


:lol:

[raphael_is_cool]

Since this thread has seen no love for over a month here's something that may interest PS3 owners.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/exclusive-infamous-demo-gameplay

Game's shaping up to be pretty good. And an Uncharted 2 beta is an added bonus.

[poiuytre]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF3fED8EXl4

The concept video of Project Trico. Not sure how much of it will carry over to the final game aside from the music, but the video is bursting with potential and personality. I can't wait to see more.

::edit::
Actually, scratch that. I just found out the song is the theme from Miller's Crossing.

[Barkworm]

I have complete faith in Ueda.

[raphael_is_cool]

So, did anyone else get the inFamous demo? Came out on the PAL PSN Store today and it is awesome.

[Mecha Cow]

Really? I will check it out tonight... Provided I have enough HD space for it.

[raphael_is_cool]

It's a hefty one: 1.2GB or so. But it's a really long demo too.

[Mecha Cow]

I played it for a little bit (didn't finish the demo - will revisit it later) but so far it seems pretty neat. The Dutch dubbing is horrible though. :lol:

[Peanut]

I argued with Brodie about inFamous last night (just to piss him off), after we both watched the Giant Bomb quick-look. It seriously just looks like Sly Cooper with Force Lightning, the way he scampers around rails and stands on vertical posts is exactly the same as Sly. And it seems to take itself way too seriously narrative wise.

It looks like it could be fun for awhile, but it also doesn't look like something I'd really give two sh*t's about getting into, so I'm going to take a full pass on it. If it was on the 360, I'd rent it so I could at least whore the points, but unless it's something I really want to play on the PS3 or Wii, I've got no choice but to pass on it.

[Mecha Cow]

Well, it's a free demo; can't hurt to at least give it a try.

[raphael_is_cool]

I guess it comes down to what you want from the game. I like open worlds that you can explore, climbing over things, jumping all about and fetching things (there are blast shards scattered around, like agility orbs in Crackdown) but I also like the way the missions seem to be structured.

During the demo, I enjoyed trying different ways to accomplish a goal (some were a failure...), by changing your route of attack or what have you. Some bits felt challenging but they were never unfair and they were well-checkpointed. You can pull off some pretty neat stuff but you can't just throw yourself into a crowd of guys and button mash.

My only real complaints are his overdramatic gruff voice and the slight delay between it registering you pressing (or releasing) L1 when you want to use powers, such as if you were jumping down to a platform, or wanted to follow up an electrical attack with a melee attack. Square is either melee or a grenade (one when you want the other is not good) and X becomes a shockwave attack rather than jump. I also felt the melee attacks could've done with locking onto enemies a bit better.

But overall, I found it really enjoyable.

[Peanut]

Well, it's a free demo; can't hurt to at least give it a try.

That would involve connecting my PS3 to the internet and using their sh*tty store. That's too much work for something I have no interest in.

[ThirdMarioBro]

After seeing the debacle that was the PSP Go at E3, I decided to spring for a PSP Slim and add custom firmware so I can load all my titles on the memory stick. Also sprung for No Gravity and Ultimate Ghosts & Goblins. Just traded in my crappy old PSP 1001 for a 3001 Slim. Its actually playable now thanks to the very decent D-pad and improved buttons, so I'm loving it a lot more than before. There was no way you could play Soul Calibur: Broken Destiny on the Phat model. Probably going to pick up the PSP version of Ghostbusters next time I'm out.

[saiyan_monkey]

PS3 :cry: Im too poor to get one so my PS2 will have to do. It cost about $750nz to get a PS3 but for that price I could get a nice guitar amp. Ive always liked Playstations. Untill they stop making Guitar Hero for it the need to get one isn't the highest and good PS2 games are nice and cheap now.

[愛]

Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep now has a Japanese release date. Who's gonna be a weeaboo with me and get this?

http://kotaku.com/5386442/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-wakes-up-to-japanese-release-date

[ThirdMarioBro]

Me no read Japanese cuz me stoopid. I'll wait for the English release. :)

[愛]

Yeah, because the story is SOOOOOO good, right? ;)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Lololololz

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, so Brutal Legend officially has the best damn soundtrack ever.

[Peanut]

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. /discussion

[ThirdMarioBro]

You win on that one.

[XERO]

I gotta play Brutal Legend when I get a chance. Jack Black is instant-awesome and I already played the demo, so I'm stoked for it.

'DECAPITATIOOOOOOOON!!!'

[ThirdMarioBro]

Bring on the impalement.

[Ecto Jedi]

Also sprung for No Gravity and Ultimate Ghosts & Goblins.

Nice choice. I bought it back in 2006 and loved it to death.

[dripgutz24]

I'm thinking about getting a playstation 3 but can't find out anywhere if you can download any of the old school jak and daxter on the playstation network. does anybody know if you can download any jak and daxter games on the playstation network, and if so which ones? Thanks for any replys.

[Brodie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Store_games

Might be what you're looking for. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say No, because its either new DL games, PSOne games, or PSP games.

[dripgutz24]

Thanks for the reply brodie, I looked at that list earlier but I think its pretty outdated.

[Brodie]

Considering its up to December 2009, I'd say you might wanna rethink that stance.

[dripgutz24]

Considering its up to December 2009, I'd say you might wanna rethink that stance.

oh sorry, the one I seen said august 2009.

[Barkworm]

Everyone go check out the new God of War 3 footage on GTTV. F*cking awesome.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'd say "sold", but that's sort of a foregone conclusion.

[TheCanadiandrome]

where can we post our PSN ids?

[saiyan_monkey]

where can we post our PSN ids?

That would be good. Why not make a topic?

[TheCanadiandrome]

i was also thinking that like the xbox thread the PSN IDs could be added to the first page of this thread. mine's Big_Evil_Donut

[Cure]

So...how about that Move, eh?

[TheCanadiandrome]

So...how about that Move, eh?
could care less. not my thing

[Dr. Doom]

****, he told you.

[TheCanadiandrome]

anyone getting LBP2? i'm hoping for the Collector's Edition myself

[Peanut]

No, cause LBP was over-hyped trash. Come talk to me when you play better than horsesh*t mascot platformers from the 90's and we'll talk.

[Brodie]

****, he told you.

I thought you were gone for good.

[Dr. Doom]

I'll always be here, my child.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'll always be here, my child.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/1o8tuq.jpg

[TheCanadiandrome]

No, cause LBP was over-hyped trash. Come talk to me when you play better than horsesh*t mascot platformers from the 90's and we'll talk.

lol! ooh kay! :tlol:

[AquaParade]

I guess by 2010 this is sort of a cave-man question, but does anyone know if its possible to hook up regular old computer speakers into an hdtv? I'm trying to get the audio from my ps3 to play out of my computer speakers seeing as they are much better quality then the speakers attached to the television.

The playstation three is hooked up to the television via hdmi cable, and I even tried inserting the speaker plug into the little audio jack right next to the Hdmi plug in on the tv, but nothing came out of the speakers. Does anyone know if I need to adjust my television or ps3 setting to make this possible?

Thanks!

[Peanut]

Probably have to adjust the audio out on your PS3. I have mine hooked up through HDMI and an optical cable for audio and it works fine. Had to change the audio settings.

[AquaParade]

Thanks Peanut! I was messing around with the audio settings last night, and ended up just making everything silent. I have hard time buying that there's no way to have simpe computer speakers play off your television. Any idea which you set yours to?

[AquaParade]

Anyone playing the Killzone 3 beta?

More importantly...anyone have an extra code? 8)

[Dr. Doom]

Apparently today is the PS2's 10th birthday.

[AquaParade]

Hooray for Metal Gear solid 3, Devil May Cry, and Shadow of the Colossus!!!

[Peanut]

Favourite PS2 games, kids! GO!

Persona 4
Shadow of the Colossus
Raw Danger
We <3 Katamari
God of War 2
Okami
MGS3

Incidentally, if I were to make some kind of top 10 list of my all-time favourites, 3 of those (P4, SotC, Okami) would surely make the list, most likely making the PS2 the console represented the most. Seems weird, as I can look back on the PS2 now and feel absolutely nothing in terms of fond memories.

[AquaParade]

Favorite PS2 games...

Metal Gear Sold 3 - favorite of all time! The style, the action, and the boss battles are the peak of gaming in my mind.
Shadow of the Colossus - Unforgettable experience and exciting as hell
Devil May Cry 3 - Best battle system I can think of on the ps2

[Cure]

Shadow of the Colossus, Okami, Kingdom Hearts before it got all Squarish...

I also liked Ace Combat Zero a lot. Lolz.

[XERO]

God of War series
Prince of Persia trilogy
GTA: San Andreas
Def Jam: Fight for NY
SSX Tricky

[Peanut]

God of War series
Prince of Persia trilogy
GTA: San Andreas
Def Jam: Fight for NY
SSX Tricky

Sucks that you pretty much named multi-plat releases.

[Dr. Doom]

For some reason I'm having trouble thinking of anything other than Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3. I know there's more.

[Barkworm]

Mine are:


Okami
Shadow of the Colossus
Final Fantasy XII
Dark Cloud 2
Ratchet and Clank 3
Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3
God of War 1 and 2
ICO


Reminds me of the fact that the PS2 is probably my alltime favourite console.

[Ninjinister]

So anybody interested in the NGP yet? I'm waiting 'til some actual solid games are shown, mostly third party stuff. That and I'm still happy with PSP.

[Barkworm]

I guess the PSP should have taught me that I shouldn't invest money in a Sony handheld but I'm SOLD. Primarily because I love buying stuff.

[TheCanadiandrome]

So anybody interested in the NGP yet? I'm waiting 'til some actual solid games are shown, mostly third party stuff. That and I'm still happy with PSP.

i'm interested, but not sure if i want the upgrade, considering once again they're ditching the UMD drive. so i'm guessing like the PSP-Go, if u don't already own a PSP this is for u

[JameO]

The specs alone is really intense. If they end up actually losing money and put it out for a good price just a bit more than the 3ds, then I am sold. Wicked device, now to see some games to come out with it and then we will secure that purchase.

[deadpoolRKO]

the playstation network is down for maintanance and may be down for up to 2 days ?

this sucks.

what awful timing too , socom 4 , MK , & portal 2 all came out this week

[TheCanadiandrome]

The specs alone is really intense. If they end up actually losing money and put it out for a good price just a bit more than the 3ds, then I am sold. Wicked device, now to see some games to come out with it and then we will secure that purchase.

yeah that's true

the playstation network is down for maintanance and may be down for up to 2 days ?

this sucks.

what awful timing too , socom 4 , MK , & portal 2 all came out this week

damn, good thing i've not been on there in awhile

[Digital Ghost]

the playstation network is down for maintanance and may be down for up to 2 days ?

this sucks.

what awful timing too , socom 4 , MK , & portal 2 all came out this week

Agreed, worst time for it to happen... but at least it gave me time to complete MK's story mode! Hopefully it'll be back up soon.

[deadpoolRKO]

The rumors about it are so ridiculous. lol

That hacker group anonymous is gonna get famous from this even if they didn't have anything to do with it

[TheCanadiandrome]

apparently it's going to be down for some time now

[Peanut]

Pretty f*cked up situation. What with the possibility that millions of people may have had their personal information and credit card numbers stolen.

I don't give a f*ck what anyone says about PSN being free and XBL being a paid service. Yet again Sony proves you get what you pay for.

[Ninjinister]

Pretty f*cked up situation. What with the possibility that millions of people may have had their personal information and credit card numbers stolen.

I don't give a f*ck what anyone says about PSN being free and XBL being a paid service. Yet again Sony proves you get what you pay for.

Didn't pretty much this exact thing happen to Live a few years back, though?

I could be wrong.

[Peanut]

No, it didn't and especially not on this scale. I don't think people quite grasp just how large this problem is. This is coming up on a week of downtime and EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has used their credit card on PSN may have been compromised. I know I was very quick in removing any information I had from PSN immediately.

Live has had phishing schemes and other such things, just like anything involving personal information and the internet, but the service itself hasn't been compromised like PSN has. Then again, Sony hasn't exactly been straight with how this all went down anyways, so who knows what really happened here.

[Ninjinister]

No, it didn't and especially not on this scale. I don't think people quite grasp just how large this problem is. This is coming up on a week of downtime and EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has used their credit card on PSN may have been compromised. I know I was very quick in removing any information I had from PSN immediately.

Live has had phishing schemes and other such things, just like anything involving personal information and the internet, but the service itself hasn't been compromised like PSN has. Then again, Sony hasn't exactly been straight with how this all went down anyways, so who knows what really happened here.

I've seen phishing hit both Live and PSN before (and even Wii, believe it or not), but in several articles regarding this Sony thing, people have been commenting how the same thing happened to Live in '07. I believe at least one person sourced it and I never did read their link, and for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it. They could have been blowing smoke or just plain wrong, though.

Anyway, I really do fail to see how whether paying for it or not determines its security level. Please elaborate on that point.

[deadpoolRKO]

xbox live had a series out outages and downtime in 2008 , then when they got it all resolved they gave everyone a free XBLA game : Undertow

[The Stryker]

PS3 has outages and downtime and when they get it resolved you get Identity Theft!

I'm just joking but not really.

[Ninjinister]

Sony's made an announcement (http://ca.kotaku.com/5795913/sony-comes-clean-playstation-network-hackers-have-stolen-personal-data) that personal info has been compromised, although they do not believe that includes financial info. Best to keep on your guard just in case, though, people (thankfully I'm always watching my stuff. You don't work in anti-fraud without learning to be paranoid).

[Peanut]

I've seen phishing hit both Live and PSN before (and even Wii, believe it or not), but in several articles regarding this Sony thing, people have been commenting how the same thing happened to Live in '07. I believe at least one person sourced it and I never did read their link, and for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it. They could have been blowing smoke or just plain wrong, though.

Anyway, I really do fail to see how whether paying for it or not determines its security level. Please elaborate on that point.

Again, sh*t has happened with Live, but it has NEVER HAPPENED TO THIS DEGREE. Sony just put out a release saying pretty much everything of everyones has been taken, your credit card info included in the "maybe" pile. That's really f*cking great, right? Let's all defend that kind of absolute horsesh*t! It's alright that this is happening because something similar happened to Live half a decade ago!

And I'm not saying on a security level specifically. This is just yet another f*cking problem with PSN, that's my point. The service is awful, not just by standards set by Live, but in general. Every time you turn the thing on there's an update for some nonsense, or the service is down for maintenance, or you get some kind of error code, or the store won't update properly, or the downloads take 5 million years. This is on top of their awful friends/messaging system which is almost the entire point of an online service like this in the first place.

Honestly, anyone who defends PSN as a good service is living in complete f*cking denial, has never played on Live, or they're too cheap to spend the $60 a year.

Edit: And it's a f*cking joke to think that they just figured this out. They should have been telling people this happened a week ago.

Edit again: According to Arstechnica, Sony didn't actually encrypt any of their user information. They store it in a .txt file. What. The. ****?

[Cure]

Damn those hax0rz.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/612Haxorus.png

[Ninjinister]

Again, sh*t has happened with Live, but it has NEVER HAPPENED TO THIS DEGREE. Sony just put out a release saying pretty much everything of everyones has been taken, your credit card info included in the "maybe" pile. !

Right.


And I'm not saying on a security level specifically. This is just yet another f*cking problem with PSN, that's my point. The service is awful, not just by standards set by Live, but in general. Every time you turn the thing on there's an update for some nonsense, or the service is down for maintenance, or you get some kind of error code, or the store won't update properly, or the downloads take 5 million years. This is on top of their awful friends/messaging system which is almost the entire point of an online service like this in the first place.

Gotcha. (although downloads don't take squat to download for me)


Honestly, anyone who defends PSN as a good service is living in complete f*cking denial, has never played on Live, or they're too cheap to spend the $60 a year.

Ha ha, I don't use either for anything except for downloading. I'll take your word for it.


Edit again: According to Arstechnica, Sony didn't actually encrypt any of their user information. They store it in a .txt file. What. The. ****?

You'd be surprised how often this actually happens.

[Peanut]

Gotcha. (although downloads don't take squat to download for me)

They don't for me anywhere except PSN. It's really annoying and really messed up. I downloaded P3P for my PSP and it took at least an hour for the 1.whatever gig file.

And anyways, I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with me hating Sony or anything, as people here are want to do. This is full on frustration that my personal information is floating around out there and Sony decided it was worth waiting a week before notifying anyone about it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

And anyways, I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with me hating Sony or anything, as people here are want to do. This is full on frustration that my personal information is floating around out there and Sony decided it was worth waiting a week before notifying anyone about it.

this is true

[Ninjinister]

They don't for me anywhere except PSN. It's really annoying and really messed up. I downloaded P3P for my PSP and it took at least an hour for the 1.whatever gig file.

I've heard other people have the same complaint, but I've had zero problems (time-related or otherwise) with my downloads on any of my consoles. I'm going to chalk that up to a stroke of luck.


And anyways, I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with me hating Sony or anything, as people here are want to do. This is full on frustration that my personal information is floating around out there and Sony decided it was worth waiting a week before notifying anyone about it.

COMPLETELY understandable.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I've had other people have the same complaint, but I've had zero problems (time-related or otherwise) with my downloads on any of my consoles. I'm going to chalk that up to a stroke of luck.


well i guess we're both lucky, as i've never had any problems with downloads either for any console

[JameO]

Yeah the service was disrupted in 2007, although I remember playing Rainbow Six in November 2007 and never remembered any service outage for me. And xbox live gave out arcade games to the ones affected from what it states online, not really too sure but it surely wasn't down for this long if it was at all. But never anything where they lost control of the security of their ENTIRE infrastructure. And in the beginning they were saying it was a simple Denial of Service attack, and now information being lost? And not to mention that there are quite a few people that have PSN paid accounts, for a service they can't even use. The timing was perfect too, long weekend, SOCOM was just released. GO SONY!

Also if you have an xbox now you can get live for 40 bucks from the dashboard. Less than 4 bucks a month, pocket change you end up wasting anyways.

[That Matt Guy]

They don't for me anywhere except PSN. It's really annoying and really messed up. I downloaded P3P for my PSP and it took at least an hour for the 1.whatever gig file.

I have the same problem.

Looks like I'll have to make some phone calls and cancel my credit card. F***ing hell.

[deadpoolRKO]

This is on top of their awful friends/messaging system which is almost the entire point of an online service like this in the first place.


that's definantly an issue with PSN , if you go on any PSN forum you'll find a thread about wanting a party chat / X game chat system which is probablly my fav. feature on XBL.

Also people have been wanting trophies on PSP games , but because the PSP is so easily hacked Sony knows they can't stop it so they won't integrate trophies.

[Duke]

I can't get over the fact Sony is saying that they don't think your credit card information was hacked. Like that's supposed to make people feel better. "Well we definitely lost all your personal information and there's also a slim possibility that your credit card information was lost too, but it's okay. We had all your personal information stored securely in a .txt file so what else could we have done?"

[IamtheKnight]

Would my psp be affected by this?

[deadpoolRKO]

Well , the first lawsuit has been filed against sony.



http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html


I wonder how many people are going to jump on this train

[TheCanadiandrome]

Well , the first lawsuit has been filed against sony.



http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html


I wonder how many people are going to jump on this train
well, wonder what'll happen

[Ninjinister]

Would my psp be affected by this?

If you have a PSN account, you're affected.

[Peanut]

Now that I've gotten everything involving my credit card fixed I'm just interested in seeing how bad this gets. It's like Sony hasn't had a year without some kind of sh*tstorm brewing since the PS3 was announced.

[IamtheKnight]

So even If I enter the credit card information manually they could still get it's data?

[Cure]

As opposed to entering the info...automatically?

If you've ever used a card on PSN, you're hit.

[Candy Kappa]

good thing I'm broke!

seriously thought, Sony can go shove a crowbar up their a**es.

[IamtheKnight]

Thankfully my credit card company keeps track of identity theft and they would call me if something fishy is going on.

[Ninjinister]

Thankfully my credit card company keeps track of identity theft and they would call me if something fishy is going on.

Still best to keep track of it yourself/just straight up cancel that s**t.

[That Matt Guy]

So is there any sort of time frame for when the damn thing is going to be back online?

[deadpoolRKO]

Tuesday , Playstation said they'd have it back up within a week.

So next tuesday at the latest.

( but , originally when it went down, they said two days. So who really knows )

[TheCanadiandrome]

Tuesday , Playstation said they'd have it back up within a week.

So next tuesday at the latest.

( but , originally when it went down, they said two days. So who really knows )
i'll believe it when it's back up

[AquaParade]

You guys ready for a little bit of good news?

All psn members are getting a month of "PSN+" for free, when the network goes back up, according to Sony's press conference the other day.

[deadpoolRKO]

You guys ready for a little bit of good news?

All psn members are getting a month of "PSN+" for free, when the network goes back up, according to Sony's press conference the other day.

& free DLC , and " upgraded chat features "


aka cross game party chat ( hopefully )

[Peanut]

You guys ready for a little bit of good news?

All psn members are getting a month of "PSN+" for free, when the network goes back up, according to Sony's press conference the other day.

So it's good news that they're basically giving us a free trial of something that's absolutely worthless? Definitely not in the hopes that some retarded people might like the service and end up paying for it to keep all their "free" game content, right? Cool. I'm so glad everyone forgives them for putting our personal information at risk because we're getting a free month of a POS service.

[Cure]

You guys ready for a little bit of good news?

All psn members are getting a month of "PSN+" for free, when the network goes back up, according to Sony's press conference the other day.

F*ck that. They should have given us something worthwhile, like a PSN game.

[Ninjinister]

You guys ready for a little bit of good news?

All psn members are getting a month of "PSN+" for free, when the network goes back up, according to Sony's press conference the other day.

You said you had good news.

I'm still waiting.

[Peanut]

You said you had good news.

I'm still waiting.

I like you more and more.

[Candy Kappa]

The f*ck is PSN+ and why should I care? we should get a free PSN game of our choice and a freaking apology on shiny paper


SHINY!

[That Matt Guy]

So what the hell does Playstation Plus do anyway?

[deadpoolRKO]

So what the hell does Playstation Plus do anyway?

gives you 1 hour trials of new-ish games , access to betas like DCUO , SOCOM 4 , ect. & discounts on certain DLC


also , gives you this neat little plus symbol beside your avatar. oh yeah.

[Redeemer]

I heard that sony is getting sued by the state of California is this true???

[Ninjinister]

I heard that sony is getting sued by the state of California is this true???

It's a class-action lawsuit of Californian citizens, not the state/government as a whole.

Also, you're going to bleed the world's supply of question marks dry. Go easy on those.

EDIT: Wait... that news blurb is from 2005. I can't find anything current.

[Redeemer]

It's a class-action lawsuit of Californian citizens, not the state/government as a whole.

Also, you're going to bleed the world's supply of question marks dry. Go easy on those.

EDIT: Wait... that news blurb is from 2005. I can't find anything current.

I heard that from a friend not an actual source.

[Peanut]

Yes, it's true. Sometime last week a dude popped up all class-action style in California. We'll actually see where that goes, considering the terms of use of PSN basically says they're not responsible for ANYTHING, including loss of personal information.


So what the hell does Playstation Plus do anyway?

F*ck all.

[PizzaPower]

this **** is really pissing me off, its still down.

[AquaParade]

So it's good news that they're basically giving us a free trial of something that's absolutely worthless? Definitely not in the hopes that some retarded people might like the service and end up paying for it to keep all their "free" game content, right? Cool. I'm so glad everyone forgives them for putting our personal information at risk because we're getting a free month of a POS service.


Damn, you guys are crabby. I said it was "good news", nothing more. I'm not a Sony representative, so direct your anger at them. :roll:

[Cure]

I said it was "good news", nothing more.

Right, which makes you the liar.

[AquaParade]

Whatever you say, Cure. Consider my feelings not hurt. I am not affiliated with Sony.

[Ninjinister]

Good news! You're gonna be molested by a monkey!

What? Don't give me any s**t. It was the monkey's idea. I am not affiliated with the monkey.

[Candy Kappa]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3_wwcvitlLc/SrMnH7Lg3JI/AAAAAAAABYA/dzXECFgARj0/s400/futurama_good_news_everyone.jpg

...Yes.

[AquaParade]

Good news! You're gonna be molested by a monkey!

What? Don't give me any s**t. It was the monkey's idea. I am not affiliated with the monkey.


Yes. Free stuff is definitely on par with being raped by an animal.

Terrible example of the point you are attempting to make clear. Which is that PSN+ for a month, isn't good enough to make up for Sony's big screw-up. Yes?

Next time, if you are going to ridicule, at least make a coherent example!

Honestly, I can see how this would not be that great of compensation for someone who either had their credit card info stored on psn, or someone who is addicted to video-games. Fortunately for me, I am neither. Good news for me ;]

[Ninjinister]

They are comparable.

[Turo602]

You guys should go easy on AquaParade. Sony didn't owe anyone anything, they could of just been dicks considering this....

Yes, it's true. Sometime last week a dude popped up all class-action style in California. We'll actually see where that goes, considering the terms of use of PSN basically says they're not responsible for ANYTHING, including loss of personal information.

People knew the risk and Sony was nice enough to give you something free even if it is a sh*tty service.

[Candy Kappa]

People knew the risk and Sony was nice enough to give you something free even if it is a sh*tty service.

"I'm sorry that I ran over your cat, here is some cow dung as an apology"

[Cure]

But it's FREE cow dung, so no one should complain, right?

[AquaParade]

"I'm sorry that I ran over your cat, here is some cow dung as an apology"


Much more appropriate then Ninjister's. Still, you guys are exaggerating how bad it is, assuming none of you had money stolen. People love to bitch.

[Peanut]

People knew the risk and Sony was nice enough to give you something free even if it is a sh*tty service.

No, that's totally incorrect. People didn't "know the risk" just because Sony has some bullsh*t line about not being responsible buried somewhere in the TOS. You're telling me it's OK because Sony made sure their ass was legally covered in-case of a gigantic f*ck up like this? Give me a break.


Much more appropriate then Ninjister's. Still, you guys are exaggerating how bad it is, assuming none of you had money stolen. People love to bitch.

Yeah, it's so minor that multiple government agencies are involved. Maybe people here didn't have money pulled from their accounts, but our information IS floating around out there, whether someone uses it or not, that's f*cked up. And yet again you prove you can't see beyond the words in front of your face. I'm totally sure Nin was comparing getting free PS+ to being raped by an animal IN ALL SERIOUSNESS. You're a f*cking clown.

Anyways, I hope no one had any accounts with SOE, because they got hit with another hack and lost 12,000+ credit card numbers. Way to go, Sony! You're really on the ball!

[J84]

You guys ready for a little bit of good news?

All psn members are getting a month of "PSN+" for free, when the network goes back up, according to Sony's press conference the other day.


PSN+ users get four free games a month, right?

[AquaParade]

And yet again you prove you can't see beyond the words in front of your face. I'm totally sure Nin was comparing getting free PS+ to being raped by an animal IN ALL SERIOUSNESS. You're a f*cking clown.



Peanut, read my post. I was making the point that Ninjister's comparison was totally out of sink. I didn't take it literally, but I had to point out that it was a total **** comparison. Sony isn't doing something negative to us by giving us free trials. Being raped by animal = negative. Free stuff = positive, even if you don't appreciate it, or consider it good enough. If he had ridiculed with something like "getting playstation+ as a reward for sony's big **** up, is like being offered a crappy video-game, or a one-eyed monkey", it would have made a little more sense. Has nothing to do with me taking it literally.:roll: You can't just compare a totally tragic event to a good-will gesture. How silly the example is doesn't really matter.

I think you are the one who can't "see beyond the words in front of your face."

p.s. Are you seriously that worked up, or it just part of your internet personality? ****ing relax, dude.

[Ninjinister]

Much more appropriate then Ninjister's. Still, you guys are exaggerating how bad it is, assuming none of you had money stolen. People love to bitch.

I work in anti-fraud. Hacking and credential stealing is serious f*cking business, lad. Even if I didn't, I'd be able to see how serious this is. I don't know how you're incapable of comprehending that 77 million people having their information in the hands of criminals isn't massive s**t.

[Candy Kappa]

free month of PSN+ makes it totally okay that I might be a victim of Identity Theft, because those things are so easy to fix

[Peanut]

Peanut, read my post. I was making the point that Ninjister's comparison was totally out of sink. I didn't take it literally, but I had to point out that it was a total **** comparison. Sony isn't doing something negative to us by giving us free trials. Being raped by animal = negative. Free stuff = positive, even if you don't appreciate it, or consider it good enough. If he had ridiculed with something like "getting playstation+ as a reward for sony's big **** up, is like being offered a crappy video-game, or a one-eyed monkey", it would have made a little more sense. Has nothing to do with me taking it literally.:roll: You can't just compare a totally tragic event, like being raped by an animal, to a good-will gesture.

I think you are the one who can't "see beyond the words in front of your face."

p.s. Are you seriously that worked up, or it just part of your internet personality? ****ing relax, dude.

You continue to prove the point of everyone in this section.

I wish we could just vote to ban people from the VGS, it would make things a lot better.

[Turo602]

"I'm sorry that I ran over your cat, here is some cow dung as an apology"

But it's FREE cow dung, so no one should complain, right?

If I were the idiot not supervising my cat and let em out on the street not being a good owner then it's obviously my fault. The driver owes me nothing and I shouldn't be allowed to have pets if I can't look out for them. So yeah, no complaints. Sucks, but I knew the risk of having a cat in the streets.

It's not about anything being free. The fact is people should know of these dangers and should be careful before putting personal info out there. Just like Peanut said, they are not responsible for loss of personal information. That's already warning you of dangers as such. I'm not saying Sony didn't f*ck up, because they did. Big time. This is serious and I know that, but I'm just saying that they didn't have to give you anything but did so anyway. Enter at your own risk.

[Cure]

Both of you are dumb f*cking sh*ts, holy hell.

[Candy Kappa]

If I were the idiot not supervising my cat and let em out on the street not being a good owner then it's obviously my fault. The driver owes me nothing and I shouldn't be allowed to have pets if I can't look out for them. So yeah, no complaints. Sucks, but I knew the risk of having a cat in the streets.

Too bad the cat was driven over while it was inside the kitchen

[Turo602]

But it's FREE cow dung, so no one should complain, right?

Yeah, I guess this ^ sounds really f*cken smart. You're the f*cken idiot.

Too bad the cat was driven over while it was inside the kitchen

Just stop.