The Sony Thread

[Brodie]

Could someone sticky this?

I know it's weird for me to start a thread about Sony and not be complaining, but we have a Nintendo thread and a 360 thread. So, here's our PS3 thread.

You can post weird things you've found, etc.

For example...Anyone else notice the text design for the Playstation 3 is the same exact text as the Spider-Man movie text?

http://www.ps3rules.com/ps3-images/ps3-screenshots/ps3-logo.jpg
http://www.nordiskfilm.fi/images/uploaded/movie12spiderman_logo.jpg

[Dr. Doom]

Egads, you're right! I can't believe I never noticed that.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, if we're going to do this, then let's be fair. Rules time. Please don't come in here with the sole purpose of ruining the parade of Sony fans. Want to trash talk PS3? The Nintendo thread has your name on it. I'll join you. Just keep negativity out of here for the fan's sake.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

[Jo Dawn]

You're right. My brother and I noticed that right off. It's our Spider Man console. ;) :P


And, yeah. Don't be flaming in here. Listen to TMB.

[愛]

Oh, if only I could block threads for myself.

I'll refrain from posting in here, but I can't promise anything. :ohwell:

[Jo Dawn]

Sure you can, hehe. Just don't post it. :P

We got a PS3 for Christmas (and an upcoming Wii! Woo hoo!). We got Resistance, and it's really fun. I certainly enjoy it.

[Spitfire]

We have 77 PS3's at my work. I'm, sure we have campers now too cause we're releasing them soon. I don't have work again till Wednesday so I won't see.

[Dr. Doom]

Is there a severe shortage of wired Guitar Hero controllers anywhere else in the country?

[愛]

Why don't you just order one online? There probably just isn't much demand for extra controllers.

[Dr. Doom]

It's getting to the point where I might. I was trying to find one at Gamestop/EB so I could get my discount.

[Peanut]

I noticed the text thing as soon as it was announced. They did show off a rendered Alfred Molina as a tech demo after-all.

And didn't we have one of these before...like 2 years ago? And it turned out to be a mess and a waste of a sticky? Why would we sticky this now? Especially considering there's about two people in here who even own a PS3.

As for the Guitar Hero controllers, I see them everywhere, Toys R Us in particular seems to always have a ton.

[ThirdMarioBro]

PS3 isn't the only Sony product out there, so let's give it a fair shot.

[Dr. Doom]

Lousy Canadians, hoarding all our wired controllers!

[Brodie]

I bet this will have a few more posts than the Saddam thread... Weird.

[LogicDonny]

I made a topic how I got a psp for christmas and I was being flamed and alienated on for no reason.. I love my psp.. I been putting alot of awesoem music videos, mp3s and all that on my psp. I don't hack it but been playing alot of mega man x hunter and gradius collection. I rented sega genesis collection.

I plan to get a ps3 in the next year or so but it's so damn expensive..

[Dr. Doom]

I bet this will have a few more posts than the Saddam thread... Weird.

Bahahahaha!

[Brodie]

I didn't initially mean to come off as offensive towards you, Logic, just the system. But I am glad you dig it, and I DO like it for the MegaMan game, it just bothers me that they could make some neat games for it, but they haven't really yet. Same with DS.

[Peanut]

What really sucks is that both Mega Man games sold very poorly, like most PSP software, so it's doubtful we'll ever see more of them. I want MMMHX2 badly.

[Brodie]

I think Capcom took the same jump with Powered Up that Nintendo did with Wind Waker. It was a big gap between, say MegaMan Xsomething, and PU.

Speaking of ideas for the PSP, did Sony ever make a Crash bandicoot for PSP? That would sell well. Everyone loves that Bandicoot.

[Peanut]

Sony doesn't own Crash. And no, I actually don't think there's been a single Crash Bandicoot game for the PSP. Maybe some lame party game, or Crash Bash or some stupid thing. I know there are at least two on the DS though.

[Duke]

I used to complain about the lack of "quality" games on the PS2 for years. However, it wasn't until the close to the end of the console's life that I really found some great games for the system. I'm positive that at some point down the line the same thing will happen with the PS3. However, this time I'm being wise and not buying one until that time period comes.

But if anyone is looking for one, I've noticed stores are starting to have PS3 in stock.

[Spitfire]

Sony doesn't own Crash. And no, I actually don't think there's been a single Crash Bandicoot game for the PSP. Maybe some lame party game, or Crash Bash or some stupid thing. I know there are at least two on the DS though.

When I was a kid I loved Crash, I loved him up until Crash Bash which as so bad not even my Crash loving self could play it. But till then I enjoy Crash games. Except the first one which was to hard for me when I was little. 3 was my favorite. Crash Warped I think it was called.

I tried played the first PS2 one and it was so bad I couldn't as well and I saw they made a sequel to the racing one*Which I liked the first one because I had never played Mario Kart before* but I passed on it and that was probably a good idea.

Didn't they have a Crash Spyro cross over game? I liked Spyro up to 3 as well. But I grew out of him like I did Crash. I see Spyro games randomly sometimes but I don't see many Crash ones anymore.

[Dr. Doom]

Spyro was good times back in the day. I believe they made crossover games wherre Spyro was in Crash's world and vice versa for GBA.

[Peanut]

Actually, the latest Crash game was pretty good. It had a lot of potential, but they messed it up in the late stages. Crash Twinsanity. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

I was also a fan of the first Spyro game, but never anything after that. I think my sister may own the second one, but I distinctly recall not liking it as much, it's been so long though.

And yeah, they had a Spyro/Crash crossover on the GBA. It was Spyro Orange and Crash Purple or some ridiculous thing. Horrible games...but what can you expect from a 3D franchise going 2D all of a sudden?

But if anyone is looking for one, I've noticed stores are starting to have PS3 in stock.

They're in stock all over the place, but no one is buying.

[Brodie]

Thats what bothers me, if it was just a wee bit cheaper, I wouldnt mind one. Id wait for some more titles, and it'd be the first real sony system I had bought. I had a PS years ago, second hand. Hated it. Played a friends PS2...the only two games that I thought were fantastical were Shadow of the Colossus and Ico. And I was just thinking, Gex hasn't been around either, and isn't that a SOny property? Those games were hilarious.

[Peanut]

Crystal Dynamics developed Gex, I think. Don't hold me to that. And I'm pretty sure Eidos was the publisher? They own/owned CD didn't they? I can't quite remember, as they really never released much worthwhile anyways. I liked the original Gex on PS. All the neat little themed worlds were awesome.

[Spitfire]

Crystal Dynamics developed Gex, I think. Don't hold me to that. And I'm pretty sure Eidos was the publisher? They own/owned CD didn't they? I can't quite remember, as they really never released much worthwhile anyways. I liked the original Gex on PS. All the neat little themed worlds were awesome.

They also made the Blood Omen and Soul Reaver games which I enjoyed a lot when I was a kid. The Kain series was a great one sad to see it end like it did. Wish the last game was better.

[Peanut]

Soul Reaver was terrific. Raziel was a total bad-ass, it's a shame he isn't still around. All the Kain crap was mediocre though.

[Brodie]

Kain was trash, Razielle was so awesome. And whats stupid is theres a company making toys based on the Lara Croft from Legend and a Hitman toy and a Kain toy...but Razielle was better than Kain...

[Spitfire]

They didn't even make a good Kain toy, they made one of him when he was old. Kain was a lot more bad ass when he was younger. I liked Blood Omen 2's story. The game play was seriously flawed, though still fun*Except the Eternal Prison I hated that*

I wonder if I can still get my hands on those games. They should have a collection out. They could probably fit the PS1 games on one disk and package it like that DMC collection.

[LogicDonny]

I didn't initially mean to come off as offensive towards you, Logic, just the system. But I am glad you dig it, and I DO like it for the MegaMan game, it just bothers me that they could make some neat games for it, but they haven't really yet. Same with DS.

It's ok.. I forgive u.. Yes I enjoy it.. In fact I plan to get powered up.. Mega man powered up Ihear is extremly harder than mega man hunter x and I heard htat the replay value is higher.. You gotmultiple charcaters to play as but inj order to do that u need to beat the bosses only with regular blaster and not 1 hit with a weakness of a weapon they hate. Aso roll as well, also 2 different play styles.. a new one which takes the power of the psp and the old one which is exactly like the nes verison except for the graphics.. Even the bosses do their old moves, etc.. Last of all is the great level creator, u need to spend some time in the game getting all the items to complete the level creator and be able to make a great level.. Then you can send it online.

If you are a shump fan, get gradius collection. it's so hard plus the arcade games feel more cooler than the nes and snes ports of gradius and gradius 3.. Heck we never even got gradius gaiden.

[Brodie]

Yeah, reading about Powered Up, I wanted to atleast try it. I heard you can play through the entire game as a specific bad guy. Like, playing through as Gutsman.

[Peanut]

So wait, you've been praising the game, yet you haven't played it?

[ThirdMarioBro]

OMG Got 'Em

[Brodie]

I only played brief times, and single levels. But I want to play levels as the bad guys. Like Cutsman. I HAVE played it, but not the entire game, but I did like the controls and the essential gameplay.

[LogicDonny]

I only played the demo that was in mega man maverick hunter x.. Oh btw, I rented metal gear solid PO today.. It looks great.. I just started to see the beginning.. The comic-style movies look great for this game and the load times are good..

Despite the lack of voice acting during the game itself, it's not a prob. Reading text is fun..

Can anyone tell me about this GPS thing for the psp? How does it work?

[Peanut]

All I'll say about Mega Man Powered Up...the NES versions are superior. MMMHX is the superior version of Mega Man X however.

[LogicDonny]

All I'll say about Mega Man Powered Up...the NES versions are superior. MMMHX is the superior version of Mega Man X however.


true.. That is why capcom left us the old style intact if u wanted to play the nes version but they used the graphic engine of hte MMPU.. Eveyrthing in old -style is left intact.. all the platforms, enemies and the bosses act the same way they did from the nes game.. even the music has been left in nes form..

Anyways,

[Peanut]

I know that, but it still doesn't feel the same as the old NES game. And there's something about the control too. I owned the game for like a week and beat it, so you don't need to give me lessons on what's in the game.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I can't get past how fugly the visual style is, so I stick to the old ones. At least they hide their ugliness in 16x16 pixels.

[Peanut]

Yeah, the visual style really is horrendous. The enemies and environments in particular are mediocre and in some areas they're downright bad. Mega Man himself looks good, and most of the bosses, but the rest is pretty damn bad.

[Spitfire]

This is just sad
http://www.bdgamers.net/2006/12/31/media-centric-ps3-coming.html

"the price range could be from 200,000 to 300,000 yen – that’s around $1700 to $2500 US."

Yay!

[Peanut]

Yeah, cause the PSX was a huge success, right Sony? Pure joke. I heard about this about two weeks ago and it's still as laughable now as it was back then. It's great that they trotted out Krazy Ken to tell people they want and need to spend all this money on more Sony crap.

[LogicDonny]

WHo in teh world would buy that!?

[Brodie]

I was at a local wal mart tonite, and they had a PS3 in stock.

odd. But considering the price tag, not very odd.

[愛]

Because the PS3 is the biggest waste of money anyone could ever place upon a product. Mediocre games, unimpressive upgrades, and a huge price tag. Why did people even bother standing in line for the release?

[Spitfire]

Because the PS3 is the biggest waste of money anyone could ever place upon a product. Mediocre games, unimpressive upgrades, and a huge price tag. Why did people even bother standing in line for the release?

http://www.pixiland.de/images/work/ebay-logo.jpg

[Peanut]

I was at a local wal mart tonite, and they had a PS3 in stock.

odd. But considering the price tag, not very odd.

Not a big deal, PS3's are easy to find now. I see them all over the place. There have been numerous pictures online of Best Buys with stacks of them. No one is buying.

Ebay

Sucks to be them. It's enjoyable to note that the PS3 sales dropped off so much, even before Christmas, that some of the morons who went out and invested in 5 or 6 PS3's tried to return the consoles they were hoarding over people, just to break even. If that's not justice, I don't know what is.

[OA]

I was at a local wal mart tonite, and they had a PS3 in stock.

odd. But considering the price tag, not very odd.

Yea...ive started seeing them as well but they always seem to sell becuase whenever I go back to the game section, they're alsways gone...for instance, the other day i went into a Target first thing in the morning and they had 2 60BG ones...by the time I was done shopping, i stopped by the section again and they were gone....so I guess people are buying them...

[LogicDonny]

guys, the ps3 will sell just like the psp starting to do now.. As more games comes out, the system will sell. look at games like metal gear solid PO.. it selling well on the psp. Give it time..

[Jo Dawn]

Exactly. Give it time. I have had no problems with my PS3, and I'm happy with the game I have now; especially since I can play some older ones that I couldn't before!

[Ecto Jedi]

Exactly. Give it time. I have had no problems with my PS3, and I'm happy with the game I have now; especially since I can play some older ones that I couldn't before!

I'm sure PS3 sales will pick up, too. The price is a bit prohibitive, but it looks like a fantastic machine, and I'm sure those who've dropped the coin aren't complaining. Let's stop being negative little bitties and turn our attention to more lofty pursuits.

[愛]

I'll do what I want. Thanks, though.

Even if the sales of the PS3 do begin to pick up, most of the developers that had exclusive rights to the console are beginning to jump ship. These developers are going to be making their games multi-platform. Why would you play a game on a $500-600 console when you can play it on a $300-400 console? And 360 even had that recent dashboard upgrade to support 1080p; something PS3 doesn't even have. There has even been a rumor spreading around (confirmed now, I believe) that they are manufacturing a version of the 360 to have HDMI support, with no change in price. HD-DVD's also are superior in quality to the Blu-ray. It just makes more sense to buy the console where the money is good, and the developers are going.

I mean, unless you wanna play Gran Turismo HD or something, you can have fun with that, I guess.

[Jo Dawn]

Haha, well, I think we're all adult here enough to realize that:

A) These are just games. We all love them, but they are not the be all end all... They are for the purpose of fun! And...
B) Everyone has differing opinions and is allowed to have them and realize that one person's say is not 'fact'.

So, that being said, let's keep this thread adult-like. Discussion is allowed. Bashing for the sake of trying to sound big is not. Being an optimist is nothing bad.

And again, to quote another mod...

Okay, if we're going to do this, then let's be fair. Rules time. Please don't come in here with the sole purpose of ruining the parade of Sony fans. Want to trash talk PS3? The Nintendo thread has your name on it. I'll join you. Just keep negativity out of here for the fan's sake.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Wise words. Thank y'all for complying! :)

[愛]

Are you saying that I'm bashing to sound big? That's a pretty bold statement coming from someone who doesn't even come in here all that often. I really hope that statement wasn't pointed at me.

Let me state my reasoning. I'm a gamer. I've been playing games since I could hold a controller in my hands. Games have been my life for over 19 years now. I've denied friends so I could play these games. With that said, I understand full and well the reason why games exist, and I understand that people have differing opinions. I will never say that an opinion is wrong. I will debate, however, the reasoning behind people's decisions. It's a message board for a reason. It's discussion. If everyone was like, "HAI GAIZ LET'S TALK NOTHING BUT POSITIVE NOTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING," then this place would be awful.

What I mentioned in my previous post were half opinion, half fact. Feeling that the 360 is a wiser purchase over the PS3 is an opinion. The HD-DVD quality being more crisp than the Blu-ray is a fact. The developers changing exclusivity (is that even a word?) is a fact. Someone wanting to play Gran Turismo HD over Oblivion is an opinion. Now you tell me, Jo Dawn, where I have been bashing something. I don't bash something to "sound big," as you put it. I was simply discussing. You want me to change the thread name to "The Sony Fanboy Thread?" I can do that, if you want.

Guess I can't even discuss anything anymore. Just because I have a history of being rude, doesn't mean you need to watch me every two seconds. I know what I'm doing.

[Jo Dawn]

EDIT - Nope, on second thought, I stand by my original statement.

[Peanut]

I'm sure PS3 sales will pick up, too. The price is a bit prohibitive, but it looks like a fantastic machine, and I'm sure those who've dropped the coin aren't complaining. Let's stop being negative little bitties and turn our attention to more lofty pursuits.

Let's just tell the truth here. Sales of a brand new console should not be dropping off as the supply gets larger. It should be growing, as more consoles are available for the market. And I've heard countless tales of people pretty pissed with their PS3 purchase, either because they couldn't sell it off for a profit, because of some of the inherent flaws, or because the game library is pathetic. I will be blunt. There is no single reason to own a PS3 at this time. Period. The price doesn't justify the means, but I would like to hear your reasons for owning one. I might be missing something, I don't pretend to be an expert on the inner-workings of the PS3.

So, that being said, let's keep this thread adult-like. Discussion is allowed. Bashing for the sake of trying to sound big is not. Being an optimist is nothing bad.

I'm sorry, but this has got to end. Not only was there no fighting or arguing going on in here, but everyone was actually conversing in a pretty civil manner. It's really starting to piss me off how a disagreement of opinions, without bashing and without name-calling, leads to everyone being told to shut their mouths and be good little children. We're not kids, we don't need to be reprimanded and we don't need to be told to behave. The condescending attitude is, quite frankly, completely insulting.

[Jo Dawn]

*points to her previous post*

And I agree. The condescending attitude does have to stop. Which was one of my reasons for my initial post.

[Peanut]

I've been playing games longer than all of y'all, and love them just as much.

Right, cause I'm sure all those endless nights of playing Centipede on your Intellivision back in 1980 really stuck with you.

[愛]

I'm sorry, but this has got to end. Not only was there no fighting or arguing going on in here, but everyone was actually conversing in a pretty civil manner. It's really starting to piss me off how a disagreement of opinions, without bashing and without name-calling, leads to everyone being told to shut their mouths and be good little children. We're not kids, we don't need to be reprimanded and we don't need to be told to behave. The condescending attitude is, quite frankly, completely insulting.

I fully agree with Peanut here. I'm 21 years old. I know how to behave. When something really gets out of hand, Peanut or myself are always here to make sure it stops. It hasn't gotten to that point in a while, even when it's us involved in the debates. I feel some are too jumpy or don't understand the standards in the video games section. I don't know about the other sections, because I simply don't post there enough, but we are more lenient around here. It comes with the topics. Video games are a touchy subject for many who have been keeping up with the generations. It gets rough in here. It's like a rough neighborhood. You just have to get used to it.

[Jo Dawn]

Right, cause I'm sure all those endless nights of playing Centipede on your Intellivision back in 1980 really stuck with you.

Actually, we did more Atari than Intellivision. It still works, and I still like to fire it up every so often. We have a bunch of titles that I, yes, played and still do. I have fond memories of spending many a night playing those. And since then, we've had (and still have) just about every system to ever come out in the U.S. ( I can't think of one we don't have, really) I'm well versed in games. I've MORE than kept up with the generations, haha.

EDIT - Don't questions mods other than over PM.

And as for the leniency that's fine IF it's the rules. No special laws for certain people unless it's in the rules.

[Peanut]

I don't think anyone was questioning your "gamer credz", for lack of a better term. That never came up anywhere. This just what we do, so you have to understand there's a pretty big passion there. We all share that same passion in here, so stuff is going to get shaky once in awhile, but we generally clear it up on our own terms.

[Jo Dawn]

EDIT - I stand my my initial post.

[Ecto Jedi]

I'll do what I want. Thanks, though.

No need to be smarmy. (sigh!) Emo kids...:roll:

[愛]

Emo kid? You don't know me. Don't pretend that you do.

[Peanut]

No need to be smarmy. (sigh!) Emo kids...:roll:

Here he goes again! Weeeeee!

BTW, for all the Sony butt-loving you've done over the past year, did you even spring for that excellent PS3? Be honest.

[Ecto Jedi]

Here he goes again! Weeeeee!

BTW, for all the Sony butt-loving you've done over the past year, did you even spring for that excellent PS3? Be honest.

Of course not. Never said I was going to, either. But it's a great machine, there are great games coming out for it, and I plan on purchasing one whenever I can get my hands on the cash. Like I said, the price is prohibitive right now, but I'm sure it will do well in the long run. Christ, it's got everything but the kitchen sink under the hood, so I don't doubt its capabilities.

[Peanut]

And by everything you mean a hard to develop for processor, that even Sony themselves admits won't be fully utilized? Or is it the awesome up-scaler it uses to make all those once promised 1080p native games, that all ended up being 720p native, run in 1080p? You know, the one that doesn't exist and makes it so you have to run your PS3 in 720p in order to play a game in that resolution, otherwise it down-scales it to 480p?

And yeah, man! Those awesome PS3 games. Like...you know...the ones that won't eventually show up on 360 in a better resolution and with more polish thanks to the 360 being the the lead SKU for all third-party games. Like that one game...uh....you know the one I'm talking about.....uh....let me get back to you on that one.

[Ecto Jedi]

And by everything you mean a hard to develop for processor, that even Sony themselves admits won't be fully utilized? Or is it the awesome up-scaler it uses to make all those once promised 720p native games run in 1080p? You know, the one that doesn't exist and makes it so you have to run your PS3 in 720p in order to play a game in that resolution, otherwise it down-scales it to 480p?

And yeah, man! Those awesome PS3 games. Like...you know...the ones that won't eventually show up on 360 in a better resolution and with more polish thanks to the 360 being the the lead SKU for all third-party games. Like that one game...uh....you know the one I'm talking about.....uh....let me get back to you on that one.

:) Whatever bro. We'll see in a year's time where the consoles stand when compared to each other. Maybe you're right, maybe Sony won't come out on top this generation. Something tells me they will, for whatever reason.

Anyway, I'm not losing sleep over it -- it's all good. This generation is going to be interesting, for sure.

[Jo Dawn]

Here he goes again! Weeeeee!



Actually, Ecto was provoked. Stop provoking. Be adults. Thank you. :)

[愛]

A disagreement! O NOES CLOSE THE THREAD!

Give me a break. Anyway, I'm done posting in here for a while. You guys have fun.

[Jo Dawn]

I'll thank you to not question a mod decision. :) That's what the mod section is for. Thank you.

[愛]

I'd rather not give you the pleasure of e-drama. You can PM me if you want, though.

Back on topic. I've done enough in here.

[Jo Dawn]

No drama at all (and who likes that?) Just stating the rules, my dear. That should have ended it.

And on topic... Brother and I have gotten farther on Resistance. It's really fun. Though I admit I got lost in the higher brush a couple times, haha. Oh well, that's the fun of it all, hm?

[Spitfire]

Games are games, no matter who sells the most it's not like one system is going to sell so bad it will crash and burn. Even the Dreamcast lasted a long time, still had great games on it too.

I got a 360 because it was the perfect middle ground. It had alot of good games on it coming out that I wanted and I just like the overall idea of it. So I got one and I'm happy with it.

The Wii and the PS3 never caught me. All the ps3 games I wanted*Except DMC 4, which I no longer want because they changed the main character to this Nero guy* are going to 360, on top of some 360 exclusive games like Dead Rising and Lost Planet. As for Wii, well there is only two Wii games I read about that I want and it's this RE game that explains the plot holes*Or so Capcom says* and Smash Brothers other then that there's nothing else I care for on it. I bought a Gamecube and I want to like it but honestly it does nothing for me. I look at my collection and all I ever used it for were a few party games and the RE series.

Now I understand Wii and GC are different with the new controller and all but I foresee the same thing happening. Like my DS I got rid of that too because I just never played it. I had 6 games for it and I never really played them. Hand held never appealed to me much after the Gameboy color I guess. With Nintendo I feel like my older stuff holds more value over the new stuff. Cause I play my NES and SNES way more then my GC.

Anyways, boy I went way off the road there for a minute, I picked 360 and I think I made a good choice. I decided this gen I would be buying one system and one system only. Since I had a GC and PS2 last gen and while I played both I always played one alot more then the other until it collected dust, but the end I was fed up with gaming and didn't play either I was so bored with them. The 360 got me back into gaming and I have more games for it in the short time I've had it then I've ever bought for any system in such a short time. Most of them aren't multi-platform games either.

So like I was saying before just because say the PS3 sells bad doesn't mean it will go away, and I hardly doubt it will lose that much support*There's always Japan who worship it* I say it will work out perfectly for us. The PS3 will have more Japanese games*Which I hate for the most part* and the 360 more American/European games. So whoever wins this war it doesn't matter we all win in the end anyways.

[LogicDonny]

Games are games, no matter who sells the most it's not like one system is going to sell so bad it will crash and burn. Even the Dreamcast lasted a long time, still had great games on it too.

I got a 360 because it was the perfect middle ground. It had alot of good games on it coming out that I wanted and I just like the overall idea of it. So I got one and I'm happy with it.

The Wii and the PS3 never caught me. All the ps3 games I wanted*Except DMC 4, which I no longer want because they changed the main character to this Nero guy* are going to 360, on top of some 360 exclusive games like Dead Rising and Lost Planet. As for Wii, well there is only two Wii games I read about that I want and it's this RE game that explains the plot holes*Or so Capcom says* and Smash Brothers other then that there's nothing else I care for on it. I bought a Gamecube and I want to like it but honestly it does nothing for me. I look at my collection and all I ever used it for were a few party games and the RE series.

Now I understand Wii and GC are different with the new controller and all but I foresee the same thing happening. Like my DS I got rid of that too because I just never played it. I had 6 games for it and I never really played them. Hand held never appealed to me much after the Gameboy color I guess. With Nintendo I feel like my older stuff holds more value over the new stuff. Cause I play my NES and SNES way more then my GC.

Anyways, boy I went way off the road there for a minute, I picked 360 and I think I made a good choice. I decided this gen I would be buying one system and one system only. Since I had a GC and PS2 last gen and while I played both I always played one alot more then the other until it collected dust, but the end I was fed up with gaming and didn't play either I was so bored with them. The 360 got me back into gaming and I have more games for it in the short time I've had it then I've ever bought for any system in such a short time. Most of them aren't multi-platform games either.

So like I was saying before just because say the PS3 sells bad doesn't mean it will go away, and I hardly doubt it will lose that much support*There's always Japan who worship it* I say it will work out perfectly for us. The PS3 will have more Japanese games*Which I hate for the most part* and the 360 more American/European games. So whoever wins this war it doesn't matter we all win in the end anyways.

exactly and also notice that Japan doesn't even want the 360.. they will get the ps3 and wii.

[Spitfire]

They don't want it because Japan likes Generic stuff, anything that tries to be new or different is overlooked. Why I like American games, we made RPGs that don't have turn based combat, while Japan was still using menus.

[Peanut]

There's so much stuff with the last three posts I don't even know where to begin.

[Dr. Doom]

They don't want it because Japan likes Generic stuff, anything that tries to be new or different is overlooked.

This is easily one of the stupidest things that's ever been posted here.

[Spitfire]

This is easily one of the stupidest things that's ever been posted here.
Really because honestly not much original comes out of Japan anymore. It's mostly lame RPGs or games marketed at your penis. Look at the PS2 line up over half the games are a bunch of crap RPGs that didn't even make it over here.

[Peanut]

This is easily one of the stupidest things that's ever been posted here.

Just...just ignore it. Maybe it'll go away.

[Ra]

Really because honestly not much original comes out of Japan anymore. It's mostly lame RPGs or games marketed at your penis. Look at the PS2 line up over half the games are a bunch of crap RPGs that didn't even make it over here.
Yeah, most RPGs suck nowdays...but at least we get some good ones now and then (Kingdom Hearts, Soul Calibur and Okami are good examples). Now let's try and clear up the arguments before it all snowballs into a closed thread, okay? Remember - closed threads make Ra cry ;)

Speaking of Okami, it's going to be released in Australia on Valentines Day. What I have heard about it is very encouraging to me, and I am definately going to buy it :) Though I am kind of upset that we are yet again getting games about five or six months later than America *grumbles* Still, if it's for a game like Okami, I think the wait will be worth it :D

[Peanut]

Okami is easily one of the top 3 best games in the PS2 library. Right beside God of War and Shadow of the Colossus.

BTW, how are Soul Calibur and Okami RPG's?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Gah, beat me to it.

[愛]

PJ <3 Megan says:
did you know soul calibur is an rpg?
PJ <3 Megan says:
idiot
Rhen says:
I also heard Madden '07 is an RPG.
PJ <3 Megan says:
because you play the role of a quarter-back
PJ <3 Megan says:
good thinking
Rhen says:
Yep.
Rhen says:
And it really has a great story.
Rhen says:
Best story EVER.
PJ <3 Megan says:
bar none
Rhen says:
When you throw that ball all the way down the field.
PJ <3 Megan says:
yeah
PJ <3 Megan says:
it's like "man, that ball
PJ <3 Megan says:
i felt so connected
PJ <3 Megan says:
when it left his hands
PJ <3 Megan says:
so heart breaking
Rhen says:
You really get attached to the ball. Such character.
PJ <3 Megan says:
that part where he gets dropped? i could feel his pain
PJ <3 Megan says:
the pain of failure
PJ <3 Megan says:
poor ball
Rhen says:
I know.

[Ra]

*gets owned. Big time* I just want to fit in =_( :P

That is actually my under educated mind coming into play. Me have next to no experence around RPGs. Still... *bashes her head against a brick wall*

[LogicDonny]

Boy people now adays don't even know the word Roleplaying games.. Lol.

So um 2007 is going to be a good year for the psp and hopefully the ps3. There is supposely rumors Virtual Fighter 5 will support 1080p or something.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm so pissed right now. Konami is short on cash, and caned several next-gen projects including the only thing they were producing that was important to me. They just canceled Gradius VI to feed more money to Kojima's money pit Metal Gear. This probably means the end of the series; the last surviving horizontal shooter.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Rest in peace Gradius.

[Mecha Cow]

Screw Gradius, I wish they'd make a new Parodius already. :(

[Barkworm]

Gradius wasn't cancelled, that was just a misunderstanding in the latest Famitsu.

[LogicDonny]

Well I hope gradius 6 goes on. I love the gradius series and like many times I have gradius collection.

[Peanut]

Can you please stop posting about the exact same thing? YES! We all know you have the Gradius Collection.

[LogicDonny]

Can you please stop posting about the exact same thing? YES! We all know you have the Gradius Collection.

Yep I'll stop. I just want to brag about it :lol: Anyways, I just heard that they didn't cancel gradius 6 :D

Also, what do u believe is the best rpg on the psp and the worst?

For me the worst is Anatosia Story.. The worst crapful game ever on the psp.. loading times aren't too bad the story stinks and the graphics smell of old school 16-bit graphics.. this is the kind of game that can be made on a rpgmaker but consdiering this is a port of the pc version I believe korean I think this is a disapoinment..

the best I think so far is the valkyrie profile Lenneth which I rented a couple days ago.. excellent port with some amazing cgi movies.

[Barkworm]

Yep I'll stop. I just want to brag about it :lol: Anyways, I just heard that they didn't cancel gradius 6 :D
Yeah, I said it three posts ago... :dead:

[LogicDonny]

So who here actually owns a psp besides me?

I am planning to buy monster hunter freedom in the next couple days or so.. Excellent game I hear.

[Peanut]

I do. It stinks.

[TheGreenMagic]

I own one. So far Maverick Hunter X has kept me very busy. Good times.

[LogicDonny]

I do. It stinks.


Any games u liked on the psp at all??

Also mega man x and mega man powered up are 2 greatgames to own.

If you need help with any psp games, i am willing to help u.

[Ecto Jedi]

I've got myself a PSP. I've logged so many hours into Liberty City Stories, it's ridiculous...'Been talking about getting Vice City Stories, but the price is a bit prohibitive right now.

Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins was another fantastic game. I spent many a night trying to beat that sucker...

I also own NFL Street: Unleashed and Wipeout Pure, which aren't the greatest games around. Midway Arcade Treasures: Extended Play is pretty kick-ass, though.

And Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops just looks like the best portable game ever.

[Peanut]

Any games u liked on the psp at all??

Also mega man x and mega man powered up are 2 greatgames to own.

If you need help with any psp games, i am willing to help u.

Dude, I've owned my PSP since damn well near launch, I don't need help. I own PoP: Revelations, Lumines, Mega Man Maverick Hunter X, Gitaroo Man, Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee, GTA: LCS, and WTF: Work Time Fun.

There's nothing else worth owning on the system. Some games are fun, yeah, but most of them are just terrible ports of PS2 games. The only truly great thing to come out for the PSP was the MMX remake and the Gitaroo man port. And no, Mega Man Powered Up isn't, "great" it's average at best. MMMHX, because it was a great use of the PSP's capabilities to do something you couldn't get anywhere else. Really nice graphics, and the terrific addition of the MMX anime mini-movie thing. That was great. And Gitaroo man, simply because it was a port of a game that has become impossible to find anywhere, with the exception of Ebay.

The biggest problem with the PSP is just the way the entire thing is set-up. Playing a game like Prince of Persia with only that sh*tty little stick, and without multiple buttons is a pain in the ass. The same can be said about MGS: PO, which has you press 4 different buttons at once to simply lean. And UMD? A joke. A dead format. Disc drives + portable games = worst idea ever.

Of course, that'll all be solved once the dual-sticked, download only, PSP2 comes out, right?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I've had a PSP since a couple of months after launch, and if it weren't for the ability to carry portable porn, I would have sold it a long time ago. Nothing interests me on the platform, and the few games that do are broken because of the horrible controls (bad D-Pad, shoddy stick).

[LogicDonny]

have you guys played monster hunter freedom or any rpgs at all?

I only started playing alot of the great psp games.. I know the controls can be tough to use but we got to live with it.

[Barkworm]

So I've been playing Bully for the last couple of days and the game is so much fun! I love the boarding school setting.

[LogicDonny]

yay! Someone posted something. Got anything else about bully? What weapons do you use in this game?

[Peanut]

Bully was great for the first couple of hours. There's a ton of awesome interactions with other students and what not. I think that was the fun part about the game. The student/environmental interactions, but once that's all done it does get pretty boring. I never actually beat it.

[Barkworm]

yay! Someone posted something. Got anything else about bully? What weapons do you use in this game?
So far I have got a Slingshot, firecrackers, stinkbombs, itching powder and some other stuff.

[LogicDonny]

nice set of weapons. So did you know you can have male-on-male kissing in this game?

I found this out on another site.

Also, Jack thompson went crazy when Bully was no where as violent as Grand Theft Auto.

[Peanut]

Why did you spoiler tag that? Ever since you learned how to do that you've been doing it for things that aren't even spoilers! You're driving me up the wall with your antics!

[LogicDonny]

Why did you spoiler tag that? Ever since you learned how to do that you've been doing it for things that aren't even spoilers! You're driving me up the wall with your antics!

Sorry, I just don't want to make people mad.. that is why I do it.

[Peanut]

I'm sure learning that you can kiss dudes in Bully isn't going to set anyone off.

[愛]

The game is months old. It's not that much of a spoiler. The spoiler tag is meant for plot-related material, anyway. You don't have to use it so much.

[LogicDonny]

I'm sure learning that you can kiss dudes in Bully isn't going to set anyone off.

no I was referring the spoiler thing that you get mad at.. You know what you said 2 posts ago:lol: just telling you. Well ok now I know.

[Peanut]

no I was referring the spoiler thing that you get mad at.. You know what you said 2 posts ago:lol: just telling you. Well ok now I know.

Dude...you're making me crazy! I meant no one would care if you can kiss guys in Bully, so you have no need to spoiler tag it. Like Ai said, usually stuff about brand new games with important plot points or gameplay challenges are what you would use a spoiler tag for.

[LogicDonny]

ok ok i am sorry u are getting mad, let's not get too argumentive about this please.. i am sorry i spoil things like this.. i am just trying to make this message board as calm as I can get it to.

[Peanut]

You're not making me angry. I'm only joking with you, dude. Don't worry about it. You only need to spoiler tag important things, it was just a heads up.

[LogicDonny]

ok, thanks for the warning.

[LogicDonny]

Pirates! got a 9 reviewed by ign.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/757/757569p1.html

[Peanut]

I have Pirates! for Xbox. Really great game. Extremely simple, but very addicting.

[LogicDonny]

I have Pirates! for Xbox. Really great game. Extremely simple, but very addicting.


well should i get the psp version or the consoel version?

they all are good but which should i get?

[LogicDonny]

Ya so anyways, the ps3 at my ebgames has died down since it was on like 12 hours a day and everyday and we talked alot about teh psp and the games.. he said to me that of all the ps3 sold only like 3 has came back in and also 1 wii as well. More 360's have been returned than any other of the 3 next-gen consoles:lol:

This is also true because I was at another video game store I go to and know ppl there and saw a guy returning his 360 because of some probs.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Ya so anyways, the ps3 at my ebgames has died down since it was on like 12 hours a day and everyday and we talked alot about teh psp and the games.. he said to me that of all the ps3 sold only like 3 has came back in and also 1 wii as well. More 360's have been returned than any other of the 3 next-gen consoles:lol:

This is also true because I was at another video game store I go to and know ppl there and saw a guy returning his 360 because of some probs.

*mind explodes*

[Peanut]

*mind explodes*

Dude...he just opens his mouth and it's like...the sh*t just starts pouring.

[Ecto Jedi]

Dude...he just opens his mouth and it's like...the sh*t just starts pouring.

Come now, be nice.

[LogicDonny]

i am just trying to have conversations that is all.. sure my english is not perfect but we don't live in a perfect world..

[LogicDonny]

It seems that alot of people seem to have think my english is bad and make fun of me on the video game forum section and I try to reply a post with as much good english as I can.

Despite my problem with my english I know that I have bad english but I at least try to keep my sentances good.

So please to whoever posts at the video game area, please stop this ok?

you can still read out what i write..

[Barkworm]

So you're no native speaker or what's the problem?

[Krang]

I went ahead and merged this thread into the thread in which it is relevant. I know it's off-topic here, but I'd rather have this thread go a little off-topic than have an entire thread dedicated to it in EE, a place where it is completely irrelevant to most people who visit there.

[Ra]

Ah, good call Krang.

Donnie? Don't get upset over your not-so-good english skills. English improves over time, and it's one of the more difficult languages in the world to master. Heck, it's my native tounge and I can't even spell things at some points. You can only get better while exercising the language, trust me.

Back on topic, the Australian release of Okami is edging closer day by day towards Feb. the 14th. My obsession with the release date is extreamly unhealthy. I've got $100.35 inside of a blue pig wearing orange sunglasses with a giant post-it note on it labeled "MONEY FOR OKAMI!!!" at the ready...and I'm gonna buy a copy of it as soon as humanly possible, damnit! :P

[LogicDonny]

ty, however people like peanut has been giving me a bad rep on here calling my psp trash and I been trying to explain to him via pm to end this and stuff and also try to be his friend but he hates me so screw him.. he has something stuck up his butt anyways so I'll leave it to him.

He says he's sorry for al he's done but he doesn't even forgive me.

[Mecha Cow]

Don't take it so personal dude, I don't think anyone here has any real problems with you.

[Mr. Snackpants]

ty, however people like peanut has been giving me a bad rep on here calling my psp trash and I been trying to explain to him via pm to end this and stuff and also try to be his friend but he hates me so screw him.. he has something stuck up his butt anyways so I'll leave it to him.

He says he's sorry for al he's done but he doesn't even forgive me.

Hey dude, I didn't know you had a hard time speaking english. I just thought you had bad/lazy grammar. Sorry man.

[Peanut]

ty, however people like peanut has been giving me a bad rep on here calling my psp trash and I been trying to explain to him via pm to end this and stuff and also try to be his friend but he hates me so screw him.. he has something stuck up his butt anyways so I'll leave it to him.

He says he's sorry for al he's done but he doesn't even forgive me.

Or maybe you just have mental problems? I said you bought sh*tty PSP games once, and now you have some obsession with PMing me every 10 seconds to talk about it. I'm going to lay it out for you...I don't give a sh*t what you do, what you play, or why you like it. Alright? Stop thinking that I hate you because I don't reply to your endless PM's. You keep telling me to "end this stuff" when the first and last time I said something was about a week ago now. Get the f*ck over it.

[LogicDonny]

Or maybe you just have mental problems? I said you bought sh*tty PSP games once, and now you have some obsession with PMing me every 10 seconds to talk about it. I'm going to lay it out for you...I don't give a sh*t what you do, what you play, or why you like it. Alright? Stop thinking that I hate you because I don't reply to your endless PM's. You keep telling me to "end this stuff" when the first and last time I said something was about a week ago now. Get the f*ck over it.

oh ya.. well um your taste in video games stink because the games I got aren't crap dude and besides, I am just trying to be friendly.. nuff said.. let's stop this before you get warned or something.

[Anarky]

Okay, gentlemen, this ends. Now. Thank you. If you have an argument, then settle it somewhere that is not the public part of the forums.

Peanut, calling people or their tastes trash is not exactly a nice thing to do.
Donny, if you're expecting any politeness in this section, then stop looking. This section easily is the one with the most opinionated people on the whole Drome. If you or yourself are called trash or whatever derogative term the lot here can think of this week, just take away the insult and see what they are saying. "Your taste in games suck" means "I don't like the games you bought" and not "You're an idiot and the dumbest thing that has ever crossed my path".

There, that should settle it.

[discordiatookie]

I've got a PSP and I thought I would show face in here!

Right now i'm playing Lemmings, which I must say is a great revamp from when I used to play it as a young'un. Same levels, just looks a helluva lot nicer! Getting used to the controls, it was so much easier with a mouse on the Amiga, which is what we had when I was wee (that and a snes). Only thing is, I cant help thinking how great it would be on the DS, what with the touch screen and all, but och well.

Next up i've got Vice City. They done a bang up job on porting it to the PSP. Top notch, music's great, graphics are great, only bad thing is that it doesn't let you store any vehicles (a bug in the game, seemingly!)

Thirdly, there's Midway Arcade Treasures: Extended Play. Alright for nostalgia, but was Mortal Kombat really that hard? It has a few games from my youth, which his nice! (MK, Paperboy, Klax, Xenophobe) some I had on the good ol' Atari Lynx (which was a beast of a handheld!!!)

And the last game i've got, which I really can't get the hang of, is Me & My Katamari. It's the controls. They're absolutely horrid. I just can't get the hang.

I also picked up a coupla movies and the mighty boosh 1st series, for killing time when i'm at work...

[LogicDonny]

I've got a PSP and I thought I would show face in here!

Right now i'm playing Lemmings, which I must say is a great revamp from when I used to play it as a young'un. Same levels, just looks a helluva lot nicer! Getting used to the controls, it was so much easier with a mouse on the Amiga, which is what we had when I was wee (that and a snes). Only thing is, I cant help thinking how great it would be on the DS, what with the touch screen and all, but och well.

Next up i've got Vice City. They done a bang up job on porting it to the PSP. Top notch, music's great, graphics are great, only bad thing is that it doesn't let you store any vehicles (a bug in the game, seemingly!)

Thirdly, there's Midway Arcade Treasures: Extended Play. Alright for nostalgia, but was Mortal Kombat really that hard? It has a few games from my youth, which his nice! (MK, Paperboy, Klax, Xenophobe) some I had on the good ol' Atari Lynx (which was a beast of a handheld!!!)

And the last game i've got, which I really can't get the hang of, is Me & My Katamari. It's the controls. They're absolutely horrid. I just can't get the hang.

I also picked up a coupla movies and the mighty boosh 1st series, for killing time when i'm at work...

i been wanting to pick up vice city stories. it even has a concert of phil collins to boot which I saw a bit of it in a trailer of this game..

Check out hte list of psp games I got.. I added a new one called Lumines. Old game but fantastic.

[LogicDonny]

Ya so anyways, SNK is taking too long to release metal slug anthology on the ps2/psp. I want it more on the psp than ps2..

It now has a date of march 3 2007 i think.

[R-iZZy]

Well, we've all been clamoring for Sony to adjust the ridiculous price of their Playstation 3, and they've finally gone ahead changed it for us. Oh, just a couple of notes before you get excited: the price change is only effective in Canada, and it's a $50 increase. Yeah, you Canucks were getting off easy only having to pay $649 of your funny money for a PS3. The new price of $699 should suit you much better.

Oh, and it also appears that they've removed all 20GB models from the Canadian market as well. Is there a more anti-consumer company than Sony out there? Seriously, it's like they're trying to agitate their customers. Next they'll announce that in order to buy a PS3 you need to submit to a solid kick to the balls before leaving the store. –Adam Frucci

SOURCE (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/about-that-ps3-price-change-ive-got-good-news-and-bad-news-231780.php)

[Spitfire]

We should all buy tombstones and write "RIP Sony Playstation 1996-2007" on them and start sending them in to their company. Or line them up outside their buildings.

[LogicDonny]

Ok I live in Canada and I am going to ask Sony one question.

WHAT THE HECK WERE YOU THINKING!?

I don't even want the 20gigs one I wanted the 60 gig anyways but paying 700 bucks!!? now!?

WHen I read the topic I presume price drop, boom, damn sony jacked the price up 50 buck.

[Barkworm]

Not even the Japanese are buying. Sony has shipped about 1 million PS3s in Japan but they actually haven't sold more than about 500k. Of course there are no interesting games for it but still.

[LogicDonny]

i dunno what to say now. the psp is making money as well as ps2 so sony are doing ok.. if sony just drops the price a bit it will help but just because they lose money they can make it back if more games are released.

[Jed]

Games are going to be way too dear over here, discount stores are selling them for nearly €80 online, and they usually sell games between €10 and €20 cheaper than proper stores.

[Mr. Snackpants]

i dunno what to say now. the psp is making money as well as ps2 so sony are doing ok.. if sony just drops the price a bit it will help but just because they lose money they can make it back if more games are released.

How do you know PSP sales are good? I'm not saying you're lying but I would like to know you're source. I know one person with a PSP. Every Wal-Mart and Meijer around has full cases of PSP games that no one is buying.


Just wondering...

[Peanut]

PSP has lost in Japan. It's dead. Everyone thought MGS: PO would bring the PSP back. It showed up for awhile, still dwarfed by the sales over everything by the DS, then dropped right back off the map.

It's doing better in North America, or it was, but now it's just being destroyed. The sale of games is horrendous. When a game like Liberty City Stories needs to be ported to the PS2 to recoup development costs...well...you know you're not doing well. And now there are a ton of rumblings about a new PSP. After only two years? Doing that would prove that Sony f*cked up with the PSP, and it would only make them look worse. And who the hell is going to invest in an even more expensive piece of portable gaming filth? I know I won't.

if sony just drops the price a bit it will help but just because they lose money they can make it back if more games are released.

They. Can't. Drop. The. Price. They're already losing way too much on each PS3 as it stands. Not only would dropping the price so early put them even further in the hole, but it would be like admitting defeat to Microsoft. Sony is a Japanese company, an arrogant Japanese company, if there's any other kind, and they'd never do something like that. And at the current price, each PS3 owner needs to buy something like 6 or 7 games before Sony can even begin to make a profit, top this off with the fact that a company is going to need to sell at least 500,000 copies of a game to break even on any PS3 developed game and you're looking at a bleak picture.

All of this just keeps building against them. Every week you've got heads of major game developing companies coming out and ripping Sony a new asshole. And projects for the PS3 kept getting pushed back and/or canceled out right. Not even just third-party games like Oblivion or GRAW2, but even first party stuff like Warhawk, which now may never even see the light of day.

Their hole just keeps getting bigger and the faults just keep piling up. Many have speculated the latest news about FFXIII using Unreal 3 is evidence of them going multi-platform. Unreal isn't the most friendly engine to use on the PS3, but it is the most friendly you can use on 360 and the PC. Can you imagine the damage losing Final Fantasy would do to Sony? Then you have to realize that they're going up against a flood of insanity from the 360 this year. Halo 3 alone will destroy anything the PS3 has to offer. Yes, that includes both MGS4 and FFXIII, neither of which will probably even get out in NA in 07. When Halo 3 hits, Sony has to have an actual install base, or they're going to do nothing but fall further and further behind. Once all those people have bought into the 360 with Halo, you're going to get the once exclusive stuff that the PS2 built itself on. GTA4 to be specific, and with around 13-14, maybe even 15 million 360's sold by the time GTA4 hits the market, that's going to sway a ton of people.

Things just don't look good for Sony. Not good at all.

[LogicDonny]

ya you 2 sure got good points.

however we are still early in the next-gen lifecycle so wait a year and see what happens.

[R-iZZy]

Even though the PS3 is losing Sony a ton of money at the moment, the company is apparently seriously looking at a potential price cut for the next-gen system. A senior Sony exec told reporters that it's an option that may be used to expand the market.


Sony's PlayStation 3 was blamed just recently for bringing down Sony's profits, and now just one day after Lazard Capital Markets analyst Colin Sebastian said that a price cut for the console shouldn't be ruled out for this year, a senior Sony executive has gone on record saying that a price drop is an option to consider.


Although no decision on a price cut has been made just yet, according to an Associated Press report, "Pricing is among the factors Sony Corp. is studying as it expects to break even in its money-losing gaming business next fiscal year." Keep in mind that Sony actually lowered the PS3 price in Japan by about 20 percent before the console even went on sale.


"We may look at the price as part of our strategy to expand the market when the timing is right," Sony Senior Vice President Takao Yuhara told reporters at the company's Tokyo headquarters.


The obvious question, however, is: How can Sony realistically afford to bring the price down on the PS3 if the company is losing upwards of $300 on each unit sold? Moreover, Yuhara said that total annual loss at Sony's gaming division for the fiscal year through March could turn out to be even worse than the 200 billion yen ($1.6 billion) that the company previously forecast.


Nevertheless, Sony's plan to break-even during the next fiscal year in the gaming business actually does factor in price cuts. "Such factors, including price cuts to some extent, are factored in [the break even plan]," explained Yuhara.


A price cut would be a risky financial move for Sony, but Sony apparently isn't averse to taking risks these days. And if the company is able to streamline the production process while lowering the price and introducing "AAA" software at the same time, it's a strategy that could ultimately pay off.

SOURCE (http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15122)

[Peanut]

It's such a huge risk, I just don't see it happening. If they made that decision they would need a miracle to pull through. And if they do pull off a price cut, I don't see it being very big. They just can't do it, like that article said, they're losing money hand over fist on each PS3 sold. They would need to be sure as sh*t that they're going to break even next year, and they have no way of telling that. It's either they're 100% sure, or someone at Sony is looking for a reason to jump from the top of the SCE office building.

Either way, a government GST check and one screw job from Dell later has me looking for a PS3, possibly this weekend. We shall see.

[LogicDonny]

wait your actually thinking of getting a ps3 now?

anyways, did u hear sony released 3.10 firmware for the psp people believe it's to counter the downgrader for 3.03.

should I update to 3.10 or downgrade and homebrew?

[Peanut]

I was always going to get a PS3. I'm not a fanboy. I love games, not game companies. When the money was available in aggregate amounts, I always knew I would pick one up. The promise of a God of War 3 is enough to make the gamer in me pick one of them up, despite the fact that 2nd hasn't even been released yet.

It's a common misconception that I'm a Microsoft fanboy or something, when in fact I take everything as it's presented. My hate for the majority of Halo is well known among the VG forum old-timers, yet I'm commonly called a Halo fanboy. It's strange, but I'll live with it.

[LogicDonny]

I was always going to get a PS3. I'm not a fanboy. I love games, not game companies. When the money was available in aggregate amounts, I always knew I would pick one up. The promise of a God of War 3 is enough to make the gamer in me pick one of them up, despite the fact that 2nd hasn't even been released yet.

It's a common misconception that I'm a Microsoft fanboy or something, when in fact I take everything as it's presented. My hate for the majority of Halo is well known among the VG forum old-timers, yet I'm commonly called a Halo fanboy. It's strange, but I'll live with it.

well i know now that you are not a microsoft fanboy. you just owned a 360 big deal..

I want a ps3 also considering I have a psp.

So peanut, should I upgrade or downgrade to the custom firmware?

[Peanut]

Most of the homebrew stuff on the PSP is garbage anyways. And when you play newer PSP games it's always going to make you update to the latest firmware. I personally think downgrading is a waste of time.

[Ecto Jedi]

Most of the homebrew stuff on the PSP is garbage anyways. And when you play newer PSP games it's always going to make you update to the latest firmware. I personally think downgrading is a waste of time.

Ditto. Personally, I'd never jeopardize the safety of my $300 PSP by running all manner of pirate, home-made games and emulators.

[Peanut]

Ditto. Personally, I'd never jeopardize the safety of my $300 PSP by running all manner of pirate, home-made games and emulators.

Another very good point. Upon running all that crap, your warranty is null and void. A lot of homebrew programs have been known to brick PSPs. If that happens, you're pretty much screwed.

[Ecto Jedi]

The obvious question, however, is: How can Sony realistically afford to bring the price down on the PS3 if the company is losing upwards of $300 on each unit sold? Moreover, Yuhara said that total annual loss at Sony's gaming division for the fiscal year through March could turn out to be even worse than the 200 billion yen ($1.6 billion) that the company previously forecast.

Yikes! So each PS3 is costing Sony about a thousand dollars to make? That's whack.

[Peanut]

That's the price they pay for getting that Blu-Ray player in there. So much rests on the success of that format.

[LogicDonny]

I guess I will stick with the offical firmware then.

Anyways, to those that has been wondering if Metal Slug Anthology will be coming out for the psp, I just got word from another message board that the offical date of the north america is 3/01/07 which is like a month away :)

Europe will be getting theirs in 8 days and a few reviewers have already got their copies so I will be waiting to see what they give it.

I can't wait.. finally it's coming.

[Spitfire]

You guys read Sonypro's new article?

http://www.gamepro.com/gamepro/domestic/games/features/95508.shtml

That's just pathetic.

[Ecto Jedi]

You guys read Sonypro's new article?

http://www.gamepro.com/gamepro/domestic/games/features/95508.shtml

That's just pathetic.

What's pathetic, my dear friends, is people not being able to accept opinions that differ from their own. No offense intended, of course. :P

[TheGreenMagic]

Well... Rondo of Blood coming out for the PSP?

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3156904

Yeah, that news seriously makes my day.:D

[Peanut]

What's pathetic, my dear friends, is people not being able to accept opinions that differ from their own. No offense intended, of course. :P

No, man. That's just a load of fanboy bullsh*t. The group of games he goes on to list for the PS3 is pathetic. I'd like to know what all these huge exclusive games are? He lists the 360 as the one with two games, Gears and Halo 3, but it's pretty f*cking fair to say that the PS3 only has two, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear, neither of which are even first-party titles, and may not even be exclusive. He neglects to mention stuff exclusive titles like Mass Effect, Crackdown, Too Human and Halo Wars, yet mentions sh*t like Killzone as a plus for the PS3? Last time I checked, Killzone was mediocre and given a universal 'meh'. Since when does one fake trailer equal to a best selling game?

What's really funny is that he bashes Nintendo for not trying new things? WTF!?! What the hell is Sony pulling out? Every game he listed for the PS3 is a sequel! There's a difference between smart opinions and fanboy bullsh*t. This article is the latter.

[Ecto Jedi]

What's really funny is that he bashes Nintendo for not trying new things? WTF!?! What the hell is Sony pulling out? Every game he listed for the PS3 is a sequel! There's a difference between smart opinions and fanboy bullsh*t. This article is the latter.

All a matter of personal opinion, my dear man. Opinions -- they're great, aren't they? :lol:

[Peanut]

But that's what I'm getting at. That isn't an opinion. It's just nonsense. You can't say Nintendo is just doing the same old thing. You can't, because it's just not true. You can't call out one company for doing one thing, then praise another for doing that exact same thing! That's fanboy bias, and it doesn't belong on a professional gaming website. No wonder no one reads Gamepro.

[LogicDonny]

well i heard that sony has always had success for the last 2 generation they will win again.

nintendo will have the power for the first year until the bigs hits comes out on the ps3 then the tabels will turn.

About castlevania, it's about time.. I already have sotn for the ps1 but rondo of blood 2d and updated with sotn in 1 umd is awesome!

[Mr. Snackpants]

well i heard that sony has always had success for the last 2 generation they will win again.

nintendo will have the power for the first year until the bigs hits comes out on the ps3 then the tabels will turn.

About castlevania, it's about time.. I already have sotn for the ps1 but rondo of blood 2d and updated with sotn in 1 umd is awesome!

And these "Big Hits" are.......?

[LogicDonny]

And these "Big Hits" are.......?

Well take the final fantasies, metal gear solid 4, MotorStorm, Heavenly Sword, Resident evil 5, Devil may cry 4.

well these are just a bunch.

u may not think they are big hits but I believe they will do good.

[Ra]

You are pretty much right Donny. The games will be hits, but because they are pretty much over rated by the general public. Final Fantasy is usually a good seller, no matter what happens. (You can practically hear some girls from across town screaming "OMG! CLOUD! SQUALL! EEEEEEE!!!!11!1" -_-; ) The same goes with everything else with a number after the title. They have high expectations. After all, these are sequels to highly successful games. I mean, they didn't just make Kingdom Hearts II for the hell of it. They did it because the first game was a huge hit.

Anyway, I'm not one to judge. We'll just have to wait and see how the sales do :ohwell:

[Barkworm]

A potential system seller we tend to forget is Gran Turismo. Sure, none of us cares about it but it is an EXTREMELY successful franchise (as in GTA/Halo successful). Anyway, there's no way PS3 will win this gen. I even dare say none of the three consoles will repeat the first two Playstations success, this gen will be more balanced.

[LogicDonny]

A potential system seller we tend to forget is Gran Turismo. Sure, none of us cares about it but it is an EXTREMELY successful franchise (as in GTA/Halo successful). Anyway, there's no way PS3 will win this gen. I even dare say none of the three consoles will repeat the first two Playstations success, this gen will be more balanced.

Lol ya that one too and me and other people been expecting Gt4 mobile on the psp..

[Peanut]

People need to realize there is one huge reason the PS2 mopped up last-gen. It was out, unopposed, when there was nothing else on the market. At all. There was nothing. The N64 was dead, Playstation was getting nothing but sports games, and the Dreamcast was a disaster. It was the only thing to own, that's what lead to so many of those fantastic games. How many of the truly terrific PS2 games were made by Sony? And I'm not even talking in terms of sales.

4 of the top 5 selling PS2 games were third-party. Out of the top 20, how many were actual Sony games? TWO! Two games out of twenty. The rest of those games are all third-party and most, if not all of those games will/have become multi-platform affairs. The actual amazing stuff sold very little on the PS2. God of War and Shadow of the Colossus sold just over a million copies, and Okami hasn't even gotten half that far.

And those hits you listed, LogiclessDonny? Who's to say if Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword will be huge success stories? You can never count on a new IP. Then you also mention a multi-platform game and a potential one in DMC4. And might I add that after selling 4 million copies in the first go, the rest of the DMC series hasn't even broken a million copies. Hardly what I call a system seller.

GTA and Madden MADE the PS2. They were so popular there because the PS2 went without competition in the market for so long. And no one say the Xbox was fair competition, because it was a new console from a company who's video game history is based entirely on a flight simulator, while Sony and the Playstation had brand recognition.

Bottom line, whoever has the biggest installed base by this holiday season will walk away with this generation. Sony has to step up and put out some truly worthwhile EXCLUSIVE content or the PS3 is going to stumble for the next 6 years. Their price point is a barrier to entry for all those people who picked up a relatively cheap PS2, and all those top-selling games WILL BE on the Xbox360, day and date with the PS3 version, with superior online play to boot. Your Madden and GTA fiends aren't going to drop that kind of cash on a PS3 when they can get the exact same thing for cheaper on a 360. Period.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Well take the final fantasies, metal gear solid 4, MotorStorm, Heavenly Sword, Resident evil 5, Devil may cry 4.

well these are just a bunch.

u may not think they are big hits but I believe they will do good.

Then the PS3 is in some trouble. While those are good games some of those may be on the 360, as Peanut has already stated.

[Spitfire]

The DMC series makes me cry. 2 and 3 can never surpass the greatness of 1. 1 needs to be re-done though. The controls get annoying at times. Honestly 4 million is nuts and it deserves it 2 and 3 just don't. 2 sucks and 3 has the combat but everything else sucks. "WOOOOO IM RIDING A MISSLE" No Dante...no.

Anyways E 5 is multiplatform so that doesn't count. And you all failed to mention Silent Hill 5 for 360 and the maker of ZOE 3 said when he's done with MGS 4 he wanted to make ZOE 3 for PS3 and 360.

Point being that article is full of it. Like Peanut said opinions are fine when their not formulated with false info and further more when their not being told in a gaming magazine that many people read and believe.

[LogicDonny]

If i had a camera, I could show u doom on psp! HAHAHA my friend showed me anotehr fantastic homebrew game.

u of course need to own the copies of doom on pc in order to make it work..

[Mr. Snackpants]

If i had a camera, I could show u doom on psp! HAHAHA my friend showed me anotehr fantastic homebrew game.

u of course need to own the copies of doom on pc in order to make it work..

Why do you need a copy of the PC game? My friends brother had Doom on his PSP without it. Something to do with updated firmware?

That's basically all I used my PSP for. I just had an emulator with bunch of roms on it. It was basically a portable NES/SNES.

[LogicDonny]

Why do you need a copy of the PC game? My friends brother had Doom on his PSP without it. Something to do with updated firmware?

That's basically all I used my PSP for. I just had an emulator with bunch of roms on it. It was basically a portable NES/SNES.

uh you need the wads file from the actual game in order to play it. The devlopers didn't provide a wad of it due to the fact the game still sells.

I heard hexen and heretic can be played on the psp but I am not too sure baout that. I have to ask my friend..

So you have a homebrew psp, Mr. Snackpants?

[Mr. Snackpants]

I had a PSP when it first came out and kept it for about 6 months. I couldnt find a decent game and my PSP essentially became a portable NES/SNES, but it wasnt worth $250 so I sold it for an iPod. So no, I don't.

[Ecto Jedi]

I had a PSP when it first came out and kept it for about 6 months. I couldnt find a decent game and my PSP essentially became a portable NES/SNES, but it wasnt worth $250 so I sold it for an iPod. So no, I don't.

I'm feeling some pent-up aggression, Mr. Snackpants. Would you like to talk about it? :roll:

[Mr. Snackpants]

I'm feeling some pent-up aggression, Mr. Snackpants. Would you like to talk about it? :roll:

Ummm, he asked me if I had a PSP. What the hell does it matter to you?

And I'm pretty sure my aggression towards the PSP was just openly expressed, so....nothing "pent-up" here.

[Ecto Jedi]

Ummm, he asked me if I had a PSP. What the hell does it matter to you?

'Tis a light-hearted jab, my friend. Down boy... :P

[Mr. Snackpants]

Oh alright, your rolly eyes came off the wrong way I guess.

[LogicDonny]

guys guys, if u can obtain a copy of gta Lcs unpatch one that has 2.0 firmware on it, you can downgrade it and enjoy teh psp more than what the offical firmware can provide.

Look on ebay, the unpatch GTA LCS goes for a high price.

If you have a 2.0 one, keep it.

I'm getting fed up with you ppl on this board, just recently I check the latest video game thread after posting 2 psp gaems I pick up, Ai had the guts to say Psp is awful..

So peanut, Ai, Spitfire and all those others who bash me and the psp, end it now, take it out of your system, please.

[愛]

I'm allowed to state my opinion, thanks.

[Peanut]

The PSP is the GameGear of this generation. Tons of potential, sh*t battery life, few good games, opposed by the biggest force in portable gaming history. FTL.

And yeah, he's allowed to say whatever the hell he wants. And no one said anything about you, it's kind of sad that you're so in love with your PSP that you equate all insults directed towards it are personally directed against you.

[LogicDonny]

Still, your getting on my nerves, you have so much hatred towards the psp where your all wrong about the battery life and all that. The gamegear was much much worse than the psp.

You own 1, why do you even have 1 then?
I love my psp because it really is such a great piece of machine.. It can do everything. That is why I love it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

LogicDonny, you're flamebaiting. Stop it.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Still, your getting on my nerves, you have so much hatred towards the psp where your all wrong about the battery life and all that. The gamegear was much much worse than the psp.

You own 1, why do you even have 1 then?
I love my psp because it really is such a great piece of machine.. It can do everything. That is why I love it.

Are you serious? The battery life was horrible.

Yeah, the PSP can do a lot of things. But the reason it's not a good handheld is because it does do any of the things it does great. And I'm not bashing you so don't get offended.

[Peanut]

Are you serious? The battery life was horrible.

Yeah, the PSP can do a lot of things. But the reason it's not a good handheld is because it does do any of the things it does great. And I'm not bashing you so don't get offended.

He'll still get offended. He takes any negative comment about the PSP directly to heart. He's the very definition of a fanboy. And yeah, the battery life is horrific.

[Anarky]

Now, here we go again, another reported post. I have read through this thread and I cannot see why we should warn Peanut. He did not insult your person, he insulted a thing you own. So unless you're a PSP yourself and not a human being, there is no reason to give anyone a warning.

It is only natural that there's people who like things and that there's others who don't like it. That's life. And sometimes, the majority of one place doesn't like anything. And because everyon'e entitled of an opinion, everyone can say what they think. And if it's not what you like to hear, then that's life too. People will say stuff you don't want to hear. Stating an opinion, however unpleasant it might be, can not be, unless it's of pornographic and/or racist nature, warned.

[Peanut]

Anarky, you should know better than to tell him any different! Don't you know that he and the PSP share life force? Any blow to it will surely damage him!

BTW, how many times has he reported me now? 6 or 7? Classic!

[Ecto Jedi]

Can't we all...just...get along? :cry:

[Peanut]

Can't we all...just...get along? :cry:

Where's the fun in that!?!?!

[Anarky]

Now don't go bashing him please, he's already upset enough.

And no, getting along seems to be an impossible thing, here in the video games section.

[愛]

Like I've said before, the video games section is the rough neighborhood of the forums. Things get pretty crazy in here. That's just how it is. It very rarely leaves this section, though. No harm, no foul?

[Ecto Jedi]

The PSP is the GameGear of this generation. Tons of potential, sh*t battery life, few good games, opposed by the biggest force in portable gaming history. FTL.

And yeah, he's allowed to say whatever the hell he wants. And no one said anything about you, it's kind of sad that you're so in love with your PSP that you equate all insults directed towards it are personally directed against you.

I'd agree that the PSP's status is definitely Game Gear-esque. Still, there are plenty of good games on it, plenty of features, and better graphics than the DS. The reason it hasn't been selling all that well? Like you said, Nintendo is the dominant force in home gaming. The DS is smaller, less expensive, and it's got all the exclusive Nintendo brands. That's it, really.

Personally, I prefer the PSP. I didn't want to dish out the dough for an Ipod, but if I could get a machine that could play MP3s, go on the Internet, play videos and play awesome games with near-PS2 graphics, that's what I wanted. I stand by my decision.

[Peanut]

The reason it hasn't been selling all that well? Like you said, Nintendo is the dominant force in home gaming. The DS is smaller, less expensive, and it's got all the exclusive Nintendo brands. That's it, really.

You left out a lack of stand out games, a dead format in UMD, a bad battery life, horrendous web browser and a severely crippled multimedia system. Yeah, the PSP does a lot of stuff, but it doesn't do any of it well.

And we're talking about a portable gaming device here, what really matters are the games and the PSP simply does not deliver quality on the same level or at the same frequency of the DS. The thing has such a ridiculous amount of potential! What the hell is going on!?!

[Ecto Jedi]

You left out a lack of stand out games, a dead format in UMD, a bad battery life, horrendous web browser and a severely crippled multimedia system. Yeah, the PSP does a lot of stuff, but it doesn't do any of it well.

Oh come on now -- a lack of standout games? What about GTA: LCS? Wasn't that stand-out? For Christ's sake, it's probably the single greatest technical achievement ever realized on a portable system. Same with GTA:VCS.

You've got a point on the UMDs, though. That was a horrible concept to begin with, the movies were overpriced, and it just didn't go anywhere.

[Peanut]

They're not stand out because they're nothing but dumbed down versions of 5 year old games. Just because they're running on a portable device doesn't make them amazing. If they were so huge, Rockstar wouldn't have had to port them over to the PS2 to break even.

[Ecto Jedi]

They're not stand out because they're nothing but dumbed down versions of 5 year old games. Just because they're running on a portable device doesn't make them amazing. If they were so huge, Rockstar wouldn't have had to port them over to the PS2 to break even.

What part of it was dumbed down, exactly?

[Peanut]

Everything? Maybe it had a lot to do with the fact that I was playing GTA:SA just before I got LCS, so when I played it I was trying to do things in it that I could do in San Andreas, but for some stupid reason I couldn't.

[Ecto Jedi]

Everything? Maybe it had a lot to do with the fact that I was playing GTA:SA just before I got LCS, so when I played it I was trying to do things in it that I could do in San Andreas, but for some stupid reason I couldn't.

Well there you go. To put it in perspective, Liberty City Stories was like GTA 3, only with the stylings and features of Vice City (camera angles, etc.)

And no, you can't swim or fly helicopters in LCS. So what? It was a superbly-designed, incredibly engrossing chance to return to my favourite GTA location, with a new story, new characters and new missions. With, might I add, all the production values of its console counterparts. And a kick-ass multiplayer mode.

What's not to like?

[Peanut]

I've played the same game 3 times before on a big screen with better controls? That might be it.

[Ecto Jedi]

I've played the same game 3 times before on a big screen with better controls? That might be it.

If the formula works, it works. And there was absolutely nothing wrong with the LCS controls, Peanut. Perhaps you lack dexterity.

[愛]

When I played Liberty City Stories for a good five minutes, I could tell there was something wrong with the controls. That little control stick is awful. Gotta get some length to the trigger so you can move it with better precision. I just felt the controls on the PSP version were sluggish. I blame the handheld's design, though.

[Ecto Jedi]

When I played Liberty City Stories for a good five minutes, I could tell there was something wrong with the controls. That little control stick is awful. Gotta get some length to the trigger so you can move it with better precision. I just felt the controls on the PSP version were sluggish. I blame the handheld's design, though.

You get used to it, you really do. I've logged a good 15-20 hours on LCS and I've got no complaints control-wise. I rarely use the analog pad for racing/driving games because my hands are fairly large and my thumb would hurt after a while, but that's no big deal.

[Peanut]

If the formula works, it works. And there was absolutely nothing wrong with the LCS controls, Peanut. Perhaps you lack dexterity.

I'm afraid you will find that I'm in the majority on this one. The PSP's controls are simply busted when used to control a full 3D PS2-esque game. And I'm not even talking about how bad the control stick is, but just the overall controls in general. MGS: PO is another game that perfectly proves that point.

And there will be no mocking my dexterity. I'm sure if I can bust out Freebird on Expert in Guitar Hero, I can play a sh*tty port of a bad shooting game.

[Ecto Jedi]

I'm afraid you will find that I'm in the majority on this one. The PSP's controls are simply busted when used to control a full 3D PS2-esque game. And I'm not even talking about how bad the control stick is, but just the overall controls in general. MGS: PO is another game that perfectly proves that point.

Hmm. So, is there anything you like about the PSP?

And there will be no mocking my dexterity. I'm sure if I can bust out Freebird on Expert in Guitar Hero, I can play a sh*tty port of a bad shooting game.

That's how you classify Grand Theft Auto?

[Peanut]

Hmm. So, is there anything you like about the PSP?
That's how you classify Grand Theft Auto?

Yes, actually. The PSP is great for puzzle games and more simple 3D games. It's not horrific at bringing console experiences to the portable market. Not even by a long shot. However, most complicated games they try to stick on the thing end up being difficult to play. MGS and PoP come to mind immediately. If they out-fitted it with two analog sticks and two triggers from the get go, things would be soooo much better, unfortunately they didn't.

And yes, Grand Theft Auto is a horrific shooting game. All GTA really is is a mash-up of a bunch of different genres, all squished together into what is admittedly a very cohesive package. All together, the game works well, but if you were to segregate each different section of the gameplay, you'd see a bunch of sub-par garbage. The driving portions are solid, but anything on foot to do with GTA is the worst kind of tripe. Something any other game series gets hounded for.

[LogicDonny]

gta lcs is excellent on the psp i know the nub isn't all perfect but the game play well.

peanut, u have said 1 thing right and tht is the umd movie..

it sucks.

[Ecto Jedi]

Yes, actually. The PSP is great for puzzle games and more simple 3D games. It's not horrific at bringing console experiences to the portable market. Not even by a long shot. However, most complicated games they try to stick on the thing end up being difficult to play. MGS and PoP come to mind immediately. If they out-fitted it with two analog sticks and two triggers from the get go, things would be soooo much better, unfortunately they didn't.

I just can't wait for Sony to finally release the blasted downloadable PS1 emulator. It'd be great to play great classics like Metal Gear Solid, Driver, perhaps Final Fantasy...

[LogicDonny]

I just can't wait for Sony to finally release the blasted downloadable PS1 emulator. It'd be great to play great classics like Metal Gear Solid, Driver, perhaps Final Fantasy...

?? you talking about the one on ps3?

The psp ps1 emulation is already good. if you homebrew your psp, you can easily convert your ps1 games to iso and then put them on the psp easy as cake and they even provided a fix on the metal gear solid bug.. Metal geat solid will play disc 1 but you can't proceed to disc 2, apprently I hear you need to have teh same game id as the other discs like ff7 and so on.

[Ecto Jedi]

?? you talking about the one on ps3?

The psp ps1 emulation is already good. if you homebrew your psp, you can easily convert your ps1 games to iso and then put them on the psp easy as cake and they even provided a fix on the metal gear solid bug.. Metal geat solid will play disc 1 but you can't proceed to disc 2, apprently I hear you need to have teh same game id as the other discs like ff7 and so on.

No, I'm not talking homebrew. I'm talking about the official PS1 emulator Sony plans on releasing for the PSP sometime in the future.

[Peanut]

Isn't...that already out? You can buy PS1 games off of the PS3 online store and play them on the PSP. What else is there for them to do?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, and that would be jim dandy except you have to buy them on the PS3 before you can transfer them to the PSP, and I have no intention of purchasing a PS3. If they would just make it possible to buy directly to the PSP, I would already have a couple of games bought. Intelligent Cube on PSP would rule.

Are the games you buy digitally signed to your specific PSP? If so, I'll just take my existing PS1 games and rip them to ISO like I did in the old days, then play them on the PSP illegally.

[LogicDonny]

Yeah, and that would be jim dandy except you have to buy them on the PS3 before you can transfer them to the PSP, and I have no intention of purchasing a PS3. If they would just make it possible to buy directly to the PSP, I would already have a couple of games bought. Intelligent Cube on PSP would rule.

Are the games you buy digitally signed to your specific PSP? If so, I'll just take my existing PS1 games and rip them to ISO like I did in the old days, then play them on the PSP illegally.


u can still do that and why should be illegally? You own the ps1 games, u should be able to. With custom firmware u can easily do it.

I would download the ps1 games I don't own. Sony should just release an offical iso program that you can put your ps1 games in the ps3, the program will read the disc and convert to an Image file and send it to the psp.

[LogicDonny]

wow my friend spoke to me about metal slug anthology and apprently if you gain tokens you can unlcok new stuff like music and wall paper, for the psp version, you can copy the music from the game onto your memory stick and listen to the music anytime and I believe he also said the wallpaper as well.

He was disapointed there was no video interview but some lame text interview you had to scroll down.

The one thing I liked about the sega genesis collection for psp is the video interviews they had..

[Ra]

Sony should just release an offical iso program that you can put your ps1 games in the ps3, the program will read the disc and convert to an Image file and send it to the psp.
Sony wouldn't really want to do that. They are in there for the money. More than anything, if they ever want original PS1 games on the PSP, they'll put them on a PSP disk instead of the whole hassle of buying a system to convert something you already own into something else. PSP sales are falling, and they want to rake in as much money as possible. They will either have to have a ridiculous sale tag on the PS1-PSP converter, or they will just whack the PS1 games onto the PSP.

Also, they are not really into bringing back the older games. It all must be fresh! New! Catchy! Not old. It's a good idea, but in today's society, I don't think it's gonna to fly.

[LogicDonny]

Psp firmware 3.11 has been released and mere hours later, the hackers have exploited it.:lol:

Nice one sony, nothing major in this new firmware cept for a new option reset game and a couple fixes in a couple ps1 games

[Barkworm]

I played very little of Okami yesterday. The game is beyond beautiful but the intro sequence blew hardcore and the giberrish of all the characters is super-annoying. I hope I'll get used to it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, I must express my utmost gratitude to LogicDonny for directing me to the custom firmware scene. My PSP has been sitting in a drawer for about 5 months since I last touched it. That's over today. I installed the new 3.10 custom hardware hack after three hours of hell trying not to brick my PSP, and now I've got a full library of PSOne games running on my PSP at FULL FREAKING SPEED! I went fishing in my library and ripped a few ISO's, and right now I have loaded up on my PSP: Intelligent Cube, Jet Moto 3, Hydro Thunder, Symphony of the Night, The New Tetris, San Fransisco Rush, Spyro the Dragon, and Crash 3: Warped.

This is fu*king awesome. I'm going to run off FFVII later on. Good thing its winter because my overcoat has enough pockets to carry both my DS and PSP, because these two are traveling together from now on.

[Peanut]

Man...play some actual f*cking games. You've been living in the past for way too damn long. Who still wants to play original Playstation games? That entire generation looks and plays like the asshole of the history of gaming.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Got any other fu*king ideas to use my PSP for? You yourself call the thing worthless regularly. If I want to play anything, I've got a DS, 360, or Wii for anything I want to play. That covers all bases, but I don't buy anything for the PSP. The PSP is useless. There is nothing I want to play on it (except Castlevania, sue me), and it has spent the past five months being a paperweight for my DS, for which I've bought game after game after game, the latest being Hotel Dusk. Is it so wrong that I should find a use for the goddamned thing?

[LogicDonny]

Got any other fu*king ideas to use my PSP for? You yourself call the thing worthless regularly. If I want to play anything, I've got a DS, 360, or Wii for anything I want to play. That covers all bases, but I don't buy anything for the PSP. The PSP is useless. There is nothing I want to play on it (except Castlevania, sue me), and it has spent the past five months being a paperweight for my DS, for which I've bought game after game after game, the latest being Hotel Dusk. Is it so wrong that I should find a use for the goddamned thing?

now you are on homebrew, there's tons of stuff you can do with it, there's a site where you can download legal homebrew and stuff.

you can also make a iso of your own psp games and play them off the memory stick makign the games load faster.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The good thing about the custom OS is that I can run all my new games, but still have access to all the homebrew sh*t I want. Awesome stuff.

[Ecto Jedi]

Man...play some actual f*cking games. You've been living in the past for way too damn long. Who still wants to play original Playstation games? That entire generation looks and plays like the asshole of the history of gaming.

You can't be serious, can you? :|

[Peanut]

Yeah, I can. PS1 and N64 games have not aged well. At all. It was the jump to 3D. Aside from the fact that the games just look like complete ass, the majority of them play like horribly dumbed down, harder to control versions of games we have today.

[Ecto Jedi]

Yeah, I can. PS1 and N64 games have not aged well. At all. It was the jump to 3D. Aside from the fact that the games just look like complete ass, the majority of them play like horribly dumbed down, harder to control versions of games we have today.

That you can lump together about half a decade worth of videogames and say they all "look and play like the asshole of the history of gaming" proves your ignorance better than I ever could. Props for that, Peanut.

[Peanut]

I said the majority, not all. Just because I think most of what the Playstation and Nintendo 64 had to offer has aged horribly, I'm ignorant? I can't think of a single Playstation game I would ever want to play again, and I can probably think of maybe 3 for the N64. I'm certain that the majority of people would agree that those two console libraries have aged the worst out of anything else. Out of every single generation of games, I will go back to that one the least. It's an opinion. I never stated it as a f*cking fact.

You've just got this thing with opinions, don't you?

And you're really starting to creep me the hell out. Do you and LogicDonny have such a huge homo-crush on me that you've got to follow me around and reply to every single one of my posts?

[Mr. Snackpants]

Yeah, I can. PS1 and N64 games have not aged well. At all. It was the jump to 3D. Aside from the fact that the games just look like complete ass, the majority of them play like horribly dumbed down, harder to control versions of games we have today.

This is exactly how I feel. I own just about every console made and I love going back and playing old games. But I haven't touched a PS1 game in forever. Same with the N64 with a couple exceptions. I go back and play NES and SNES all the time. The PS1 just isn't fun to go back and play because it's unbearable.

[LogicDonny]

I said the majority, not all. Just because I think most of what the Playstation and Nintendo 64 had to offer has aged horribly, I'm ignorant? I can't think of a single Playstation game I would ever want to play again, and I can probably think of maybe 3 for the N64. I'm certain that the majority of people would agree that those two console libraries have aged the worst out of anything else. Out of every single generation of games, I will go back to that one the least. It's an opinion. I never stated it as a f*cking fact.

You've just got this thing with opinions, don't you?

And you're really starting to creep me the hell out. Do you and LogicDonny have such a huge homo-crush on me that you've got to follow me around and reply to every single one of my posts?


There are tons of great ps1 titles that I would play still

-Metal Gear Solid
-Final fantasy titles
-Lunar
-Star Ocean
-Mega man x4-6
-Crash Banicoot 1-3
-Tomb Raider series
-Castlevania Sotn
-Mega man Legends 1+2 and Tron Bonne

these are just a bunch that are really good.. Games don't have to have good graphics be enjoyed the gameplay and story matters. Also I am playing through doom2 and the graphics don't look all that great now but it's still fun. So peanut, please seriously think before you write.

Anyways, I can't wait to get Ratchet and Clank Size Matters. I downloaded the 8 minute look at the game from the psp website and I can't wait.

[Peanut]

these are just a bunch that are really good.. Games don't have to have good graphics be enjoyed the gameplay and story matters. Also I am playing through doom2 and the graphics don't look all that great now but it's still fun. So peanut, please seriously think before you write.

Oh. My. God. I didn't say everything from that generation was unplayable. Please, just go back and actually read what I wrote. I'm tired of you two, honestly.

[LogicDonny]

Oh. My. God. I didn't say everything from that generation was unplayable. Please, just go back and actually read what I wrote. I'm tired of you two, honestly.


ok peanut, ever played the Ratchet and clank series?

If so, please check out the new one coming out this week. it got a sweet 9 out of 10!

[Ra]

The new Ratchet and Clank game looks pretty good, but I can't help but think negatively about it. I have no idea why. The graphics look pretty good from what I have seen so far, and I'm one of the biggest R&C fans in town...yet I can't get myself hyped for the game *shrugs* Well, either way I'm going to try looking at reviews next week. Hopefully they can turn all of this negative thought of mine into something that resembled me when Ratchet & Clank 3 came out

[LogicDonny]

The new Ratchet and Clank game looks pretty good, but I can't help but think negatively about it. I have no idea why. The graphics look pretty good from what I have seen so far, and I'm one of the biggest R&C fans in town...yet I can't get myself hyped for the game *shrugs* Well, either way I'm going to try looking at reviews next week. Hopefully they can turn all of this negative thought of mine into something that resembled me when Ratchet & Clank 3 came out

check out Ign.. they posted up a review.

Don't think negative thoughts, if you are undecided buying this game, just give it a rent for a couple days.

[Ecto Jedi]

I said the majority, not all. Just because I think most of what the Playstation and Nintendo 64 had to offer has aged horribly, I'm ignorant? I can't think of a single Playstation game I would ever want to play again, and I can probably think of maybe 3 for the N64. I'm certain that the majority of people would agree that those two console libraries have aged the worst out of anything else. Out of every single generation of games, I will go back to that one the least. It's an opinion. I never stated it as a f*cking fact.

Seriously, the Atari generation of games has aged exponentially worse than the N64/PS1 era, now that's obvious. A few select classics stand out, but most of them are utter garbage.

Oh. My. God. I didn't say everything from that generation was unplayable.

"That entire generation looks and plays like the asshole of the history of gaming" sounds pretty close. For a guy who pretends to be the end-all, be-all source of knowledge in the realm of videogames, that's a pretty asinine thing to say.

And you're really starting to creep me the hell out. Do you and LogicDonny have such a huge homo-crush on me that you've got to follow me around and reply to every single one of my posts?

Well, your avatar is pretty damn sexy... :lol:

[Peanut]

"That entire generation looks and plays like the asshole of the history of gaming" sounds pretty close. For a guy who pretends to be the end-all, be-all source of knowledge in the realm of videogames, that's a pretty asinine thing to say.

The thing is I meant to say majority, which I cleared up in my follow-up post. People do make mistakes, especially on the interweb. And since when have I ever claimed to be the all-knowing source of gaming knowledge? I don't even know half the sh*t TMB has stored in his brain about random portions of the industry, and I could never match Ai in his knowledge of homo-PC games or Jap crap. Once again, it probably all comes down to the way I don't gloss up my posts. I just write and that's that. Sorry I come off as so hateful/negative/egotistical, but that's just the way it is.

[LogicDonny]

The thing is I meant to say majority, which I cleared up in my follow-up post. People do make mistakes, especially on the interweb. And since when have I ever claimed to be the all-knowing source of gaming knowledge? I don't even know half the sh*t TMB has stored in his brain about random portions of the industry, and I could never match Ai in his knowledge of homo-PC games or Jap crap. Once again, it probably all comes down to the way I don't gloss up my posts. I just write and that's that. Sorry I come off as so hateful/negative/egotistical, but that's just the way it is.

............Nothing to write here except :roll:

[Peanut]

............Nothing to write here except :roll:

You never learn, do you? You have to be prepubescent. There's no way in hell you're not. And if you are? Seriously problems there, buddy.

[LogicDonny]

well peanut, I keep writing yet keep erasing my thoughts, there are so many things I want to spew out at you but I don't want to, it's nothing major bad to get me warned or antyhing, I am just trying to write something that will fit the post well.

Peanut, this has to stop dude, we can get along again.. please?

[Peanut]

So instead of writing out your incessant bullsh*t you put in some childish smiley face and call it a post? You don't need to reply to everything everyone says. If you've got nothing of worth to add to the conversation, just don't say anything. Although that might prove difficult, as nothing you ever say is worth being said.

[Mecha Cow]

For f*ck's sake Donny, shut the hell up already.

[LogicDonny]

So you want me to shut up when Peanut has been arguing over the past few posts while I was away? Dude, stop following him.

[Cure]

So you want me to shut up when Peanut has been arguing over the past few posts while I was away? Dude, stop following him.

It's not about him following anyone, it's about who's right and who's wrong. You post nonsense and all your points just fall flat. Seriously, how many of your posts can you say HAVEN'T pissed people off?

[Mecha Cow]

So you want me to shut up when Peanut has been arguing over the past few posts while I was away? Dude, stop following him.
This is your exact problem. Someone compliments something, they're a fanboy. Someone criticises something, they're a hater. I tell you to shut up, I'm following Peanut.

You need to get over yourself and learn when to shut your damn mouth.

God damn, what is it with this section? Every time one of these illiterate morons gets banned, another one pops up. Are you sure you're not Turtledude?

[Barkworm]

Plus you say you want to get along but you get on Peanut's back every time you get the chance. Stop it. Seriously.

[Ra]

^^ Pretty much true, I'm afraid.

On a side note, can everyone PLEASE stop fighting? There isn't any true point to all of this. Debates on games I can live with, but fighting with each other isn't really solving anything. Please do so, just so that the peace can be kept in our humble forums

[LogicDonny]

It will be a long and difficult process but it can be done.

Now let try to stay on topic.

4 I repeat 4 good psp titles comes out this month I want.

Gurumin
Ratchet and Clank : Size Matters
Metal Slug Anthology
Monster Kingdom : Jewel Summoner <- published by Atlus

There has been news that a Sequel for Generation of Chaos is being confirmed as well as Makai Wars is still in development.

Now I know some of you may hear that Generation of Chaos is bad, but that isn't all true, you will need to understadn that the game didn't come with a turtorial and since it's the 4th game in the series, it's understandable.

http://nisamerica.com/members/downloads/etc/file/goc_miniguide.zip


here it is to the guide, if you need it if you have the game. Also With teh poor sales of Generation of chaos and Spectral Souls I was even surprised how they are releasing a sequel.

besides all that, if you have a psp, which games are you looking foward to. Oh btw, March is a good month to look towards burnout : Dominator coming to ps2/psp

[ThirdMarioBro]

Sony announced Wipeout for the PS3. If that game turns out anything like Wipeout Pure did, then I'm out $600.

[Peanut]

Of all the things to make someone buy a PS3...Wipeout? ROALZ!

[愛]

I don't remember Wipeout being any fun. That was a million years ago, though.

[LogicDonny]

Nice! Wipeout pure rocks on psp and the extra contents made it more fun. Cant wait.