The Sony Thread

[Peanut]

It's almost like I can hear a whooshing noise every time Turo or AquaParade replies to something.

I also like how the defense is coming from two kids who a) clearly don't know how dangerous this kind of sh*t can be and b) probably don't have a credit card or personal information that's been put in jeopardy. I'm totally sure Turo would be going "OH, WELL! SONY DOESN'T OWE ME A THING!" if it was all his sh*t that got stolen.

[Cure]

Actually, his cat analogy is making more sense than anything you or Aquaparade is saying. Also, why is choosing to complain over free cow dung dumb? Explain.

[Turo602]

It's almost like I can hear a whooshing noise every time Turo or AquaParade replies to something.

I also like how the defense is coming from two kids who a) clearly don't know how dangerous this kind of sh*t can be and b) probably don't have a credit card or personal information that's been put in jeopardy. I'm totally sure Turo would be going "OH, WELL! SONY DOESN'T OWE ME A THING!" if it was all his sh*t that got stolen.

I know the seriousness of this. Trust me, just because you call me "kid" doesn't mean it makes you look any bigger. And why would I b*tch if it were me? Sure it sucks and sh*t happens, the greedy pissed off person inside of me would want a reward for this bullsh*t too. But in reality, I played a part in it too for putting my info out there while knowing the dangers of it as well. Its like signing a contract that said you can get hurt and then you get pissed when you get hurt. Don't get me wrong, I can understand why you guys will be pissed. I'm just trying to clarify things. Don't mean any trouble.

Actually, his cat analogy is making more sense than anything you or Aquaparade is saying. Also, why is choosing to complain over free cow dung dumb? Explain.

Read a little closer there champ. The driver wouldn't have owed me anything.

[Peanut]

I know the seriousness of this. Trust me, just because you call me "kid" doesn't mean it makes you look any bigger. And why would I b*tch if it were me? Sure it sucks and sh*t happens, the greedy pissed off person inside of me would want a reward for this bullsh*t too. But in reality, I played a part in it too for putting my info out there while knowing the dangers of it as well. Its like signing a contract you didn't read.

You're taking this wrong. No one who isn't some snotty little f*ck gives a sh*t about reparations at this point. I want Sony to fix this horsesh*t. How can I ever use this service again if they're CLEARLY not taking proper steps to rectify the situation? The anger I feel isn't because I think PS+ is a sh*tty "gift" to get, it's because Sony was lazy and now my information is exposed. Do you understand now why those of us affected are simply made angrier by their awful attempt to recoup our confidence?

[Candy Kappa]

The f*ck does this have to do with any reward or a material goods apology, Sony messed up big time and it is irreversible. F*ck PSN+, I could care less had it not just been a extra insult to injury

[Turo602]

I know it's not about a reward. My whole point is enter at your own risk. Yes Sony f*cked up and f*ck them for that. I understand the anger and seriousness of this. Identity theft has happened in my family before and has currently happened again. Like I said before, it's like signing a contract. That is my point. You have every right to be pissed off and I'm not denying that. I'm not trying to pick a fight here.

[Peanut]

You still don't understand. Just because they put that in there doesn't mean they can just do WHATEVER. What it means is that the idiots trying to use this as a quick cash-grab and suing Sony don't have a leg to stand on. We're not all supposed to throw up our hands and go "OH, WELL! WE TOOK THE RISK!" that's a completely ridiculous line of thought.

Whenever you put your credit card anywhere, it's a risk, but whenever you use it on the internet you're usually promised that your stuff will be kept as secure as possible. You put your trust into the company, such as Amazon or whatever. Right now no one should have any trust for Sony and the fact that they think they can smooth it over by offering free TRASH is insulting. The sad thing is most Sony tools have already fallen for it.

[Turo602]

Yeah, I guess you have a point. Well, all in all. Sony really ****ed up.

I wonder what all those Playstation fan boys are thinking now?

[XERO]

I wonder what all those Playstation fan boys are thinking now?

They are finally bored with Black Ops.

[Candy Kappa]

best part for me on this; had it not been for Re-Shelled

[AquaParade]

I clearly stated that it's not compensation enough, for those who may have had money stolen.:o Honestly guys, read all of my posts on the fact, before replying with a bunch of swearing and attempts to patronize me. Obviously, anyone who has had money stolen or is in danger of losing money, needs to be compensated with more then playstation plus. I said it was good news that we are getting something for free. Don't try and make more of it.

If you want to use me as an excuse to vent your anger at Sony, whatever. I mean, it's a joke that Peanut has turned my arguement into "its clearly ok for Sony to only give us a month of playstation plus, even if we had money stolen, or dangerous information leaked." I never argued that. I simply said it was cool that we are getting a free month of ps plus. Yet, Peanut has chosen me to represent the idea that Sony is perfect. Wtf? Get real, Peanut.

If you are going to reply to my post, be civil. It is silly to watch the way some of you react, while at the same time trying to act like you are more mature than me.

[JameO]

So it is okay to lose our information as long as the criminals charges are returned to our accounts? having to change your credit cards and deal with all that crap. Completely stupid if you ask me. A free month is not enough, and even if it was a half of a year or a full year, that will only help the fact the service was down. Compromising your identity should be something completely different. They have lost their credibility. Like come on, the attacks started 17th but were not detected until 19th? And this is supposed to be a huge corporation like sony with a flimsy intrusion detection. No matter what they offer their service will have this bad media lingering.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Well, all in all. Sony really ****ed up.


yes this is true

[Peanut]

More nonsense.

I was speaking to Turo, who just needed to be cleared up on the train of thought. Everything to do with you was more along the lines of how you're just an idiot, nothing to do with your opinion on the matter. News flash, none of us give a sh*t what you say.

[deadpoolRKO]

idk if anyone checks they playstation blog , but here's a piece of what they said in they're press release a few days ago about what they've done to enhance there security.


Working closely with several outside security firms, the company has implemented significant security measures to further detect unauthorized activity and provide consumers with greater protection of their personal information.

The company is also creating the position of Chief Information Security Officer, directly reporting to Shinji Hasejima, Chief Information Officer of Sony Corporation, to add a new position of expertise in and accountability for customer data protection and supplement existing information security personnel.



The new security measures implemented include, but are not limited to, the following:

- Added automated software monitoring and configuration management to help defend against new attacks

- Enhanced levels of data protection and encryption

- Enhanced ability to detect software intrusions within the network, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns

- Implementation of additional firewalls



The company also expedited an already planned move of the system to a new data center in a different location that has been under construction and development for several months.


In addition, PS3 will have a forced system software update that will require all registered PlayStation Network users to change their account passwords before being able to sign into the service. As an added layer of security, that password can only be changed on the same PS3 in which that account was activated, or through validated email confirmation, a critical step to help further protect customer data.





The company is conducting a thorough and on-going investigation and working with law enforcement to track down and prosecute those responsible for the illegal intrusion.


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/30/press-release-some-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services-to-be-available-this-week/




I don't really know enough about this kind of thing to say if these steps are enough to earn back trust or even for people to give them another chance , but i'd like to hear takes on it from someone who understands it

[愛]

I'll be the first to say that no security system is unbreakable. With enough time and effort, even the most sophisticated system can be breached. With that said, Sony's security system was horrific, if not childish in its execution. They have no excuse for the lack of competency when it comes to someone's personal information.

I'm glad I never bought anything from PSN, but my personal information is still on someone's hard drive at this moment. What they want to do with it, God only knows. Let's just hope this person is caught.

[AquaParade]

It's almost like I can hear a whooshing noise every time Turo or AquaParade replies to something.

I also like how the defense is coming from two kids who a) clearly don't know how dangerous this kind of sh*t can be and b) probably don't have a credit card or personal information that's been put in jeopardy. I'm totally sure Turo would be going "OH, WELL! SONY DOESN'T OWE ME A THING!" if it was all his sh*t that got stolen.

Don't come on a message board and try telling people no one gives a **** what I say. People come here to post debates or read debates, dumbass. You may be delusional, if you think you are the only one people care to speak to on this website. You clearly shoved me in with Turo, and tried bitching at me for a point I didn't even try and make. Do you understand that, Peanut? Can you comprehend that? Don't answer.


I try not to get worked up on the internet, but you are seriously ****ing stupid. Not for your opinions, because you seem to form those just fine. But, you seriously can't hold a debate when you are backed into a corner. You rely on insults. You are the stereotypical message board douchebag/nerd.

I just can't seem to understand the fact that people who feel small, think raising their "voice" or spitting out a bunch of insults appears to make them look smarter, or dig them out of a hole. Grow up and join adult society, Peanut. I get the feeling you are over 18,but you sure don't act like it. Don't reply to my post's with your 5th grade vocabulary.

I agree that Sony ****ed up. I've spent my last few posts trying to slowly explain to Peanut, that I don't think its OKAY for Sony to just throw everyone a month of free stuff, yet he had continually tried to turn that into me saying whatever point Turo was trying to make.
Hopefully, all the backlash going around will get Sony on the ball, with customers who may deserve more of a fix. Peanut, take your bratty, big mouth over to the officials at Sony, if you want to make a difference.

[deadpoolRKO]

yeah , i got ironically lucky because the PSN would never accept my debit card. it always said the adress didn't match what was on my bank account ,

so everything i bought has been with PSN gift cards.


I agree though & definantly hope they're caught.

[Brodie]

Don't come on a message board and try telling people no one gives a **** what I say. People come here to post debates or read debates, dumbass. You may be delusional, if you think you are the only one people care to speak to on this website. You clearly shoved me in with Turo, and tried bitching at me for a point I didn't even try and make. Do you understand that, Peanut? Can you comprehend that? Don't answer.


I try not to get worked up on the internet, but you are seriously ****ing stupid. Not for your opinions, because you seem to form those just fine. But, you seriously can't hold a debate when you are backed into a corner. You rely on insults. You are the stereotypical message board douchebag/nerd.

I just can't seem to understand the fact that people who feel small, think raising their "voice" or spitting out a bunch of insults appears to make them look smarter, or dig them out of a hole. Grow up and join adult society, Peanut. I get the feeling you are over 18,but you sure don't act like it. Don't reply to my post's with your 5th grade vocabulary.

I agree that Sony ****ed up. I've spent my last few posts trying to slowly explain to Peanut, that I don't think its OKAY for Sony to just throw everyone a month of free stuff, yet he had continually tried to turn that into me saying whatever point Turo was trying to make.
Hopefully, all the backlash going around will get Sony on the ball, with customers who may deserve more of a fix. Peanut, take your bratty, big mouth over to the officials at Sony, if you want to make a difference.


What's being on the rag like, sunshine?

[That Matt Guy]

So anyone else heard they found out 20 million more people had their information stolen, bringing the total to 101 million?

The fun never stops.

[AquaParade]

What's being on the rag like, sunshine?
Riiiight....Thanks for the input.


Such a shame. I've grown up with Sony, and always love their products, so I hope they can someday make up for this.

[Peanut]

Whiny nonsense

This is why I do it, folks. I don't know why I find it so entertaining, but yow! Look at that kid! Unfortunately, still only a C+. Not quite insane enough to bump up the grade and repetition is always a minus.

Edit: Sony's response to the SOE thing is really f*cked up. They claim it's not so bad because of the 13,000 cards stolen, only 900 were still active. And it's not such a big deal, because those cards were in a separate, less secure database. The newer one is much more secure, so we shouldn't worry!

F*cking. Worthless.

[Cure]

Don't come on a message board and try telling people no one gives a **** what I say. People come here to post debates or read debates, dumbass. You may be delusional, if you think you are the only one people care to speak to on this website. You clearly shoved me in with Turo, and tried bitching at me for a point I didn't even try and make. Do you understand that, Peanut? Can you comprehend that? Don't answer.


I try not to get worked up on the internet, but you are seriously ****ing stupid. Not for your opinions, because you seem to form those just fine. But, you seriously can't hold a debate when you are backed into a corner. You rely on insults. You are the stereotypical message board douchebag/nerd.

I just can't seem to understand the fact that people who feel small, think raising their "voice" or spitting out a bunch of insults appears to make them look smarter, or dig them out of a hole. Grow up and join adult society, Peanut. I get the feeling you are over 18,but you sure don't act like it. Don't reply to my post's with your 5th grade vocabulary.

I agree that Sony ****ed up. I've spent my last few posts trying to slowly explain to Peanut, that I don't think its OKAY for Sony to just throw everyone a month of free stuff, yet he had continually tried to turn that into me saying whatever point Turo was trying to make.
Hopefully, all the backlash going around will get Sony on the ball, with customers who may deserve more of a fix. Peanut, take your bratty, big mouth over to the officials at Sony, if you want to make a difference.

Hahahaha, too good.

[AquaParade]

You guys win. I have never been so amazed by ignorance. That was your goal right?
i'm not really sure what you are laughing at Cure. Is it the fact that I got worked up(you must get a kick out of peanut, than)? Or do you just not have a good debate to punch back with?


Peanut, changing my quote was pretty clever...the first time. I give you credit though....You sure have turned Cure into your bitch, lol. He literally follows you around the boards backing you up. Kinda like those dudes in "Doug", who would follow around Roger Klotz, and try and win his approval.


For the record, ever since I called Peanut out, on acting like I said what Sony did was ok, he has done nothing but misquote my posts and chuckle. I think my point is proved. Be back when it cools down in here :)

[Peanut]

You've never proven your point and you never will. You act like there was actually a point to be had in the mountains of bullsh*t you've been spewing.

And you know, this is always the best part. When one of you clowns starts going "YEP, I WON!" as if there's anything to win, or like you've actually somehow proven me wrong or gotten to me. It's always really funny when you kids think "calling someone out" means misconstruing what was side, twisting it in your own warped favour and then acting like everyone doesn't understand you, when in truth we're all just done listening to the sh*t. This is all part of the shtick you f*cking tool. Do you have any IDEA how many of your kind have been through this section? And your sad attempts to prove anyone in this section wrong have been a drop in the bucket compared to the truly intelligent people we've hazed in here. It's always a great feeling to see the anger start to come through in the posts, especially when awful comebacks or insults are hurled, because guys like you always think you've shut everyone up, when in reality we're all in the same place, reading the hilarious replies out loud in retarded voices and laughing.

The smart ones usually come through as an amazing addition to this section and generally also become a really good friend of everyone in here. You're definitely not making the grade.

[愛]

I thought you'd be used to this kind of environment by now, Aqua.

[AquaParade]

I thought you'd be used to this kind of environment by now, Aqua.


Must keep....

faith.....

in humanity.....

[愛]

Must keep....

faith.....

in humanity.....

Oh come on. You're going to let a few meddling kids on the internet completely ruin your chance to enjoy life?

Listen, the rules are simple here. Get the facts before saying anything (which is a rule anywhere, if you ask me), ask questions if you're unsure, and just enjoy yourself. We're all actually very nice people. We just have a bit of a jaded personality after all the years of disappointment from both the video game industry and the ill-informed rookies who come and go here. It's nothing personal, but it's reality.

With that said, I love all of you guys. <3

[AquaParade]

Well no, I was joking, but it was hyper-exaggeration, you are right.

I'm a pretty intelligent guy, who has followed the game industry fairly closely over the last ten years. So, I feel like my opinions are justified.

I may have expected too much from a kids franchise message board, but I just feel like there are some fairly immature members in here. Obviously, I'm not referring to you A.I. You've been quite pleasant.

[That Matt Guy]

All of these guys are professional douche bags, just keep that in mind. Of course, I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Brodie]

That's accurate. When not malforming the minds of the youth, I'm being a professional d-bag.

I <3 Matt. I always feel so content when he comes back.

[Cure]

I think my point is proved. Be back when it cools down in here :)

FINALLY, he's gone forever.

[愛]

Well no, I was joking, but it was hyper-exaggeration, you are right.

I'm a pretty intelligent guy, who has followed the game industry fairly closely over the last ten years. So, I feel like my opinions are justified.

I may have expected too much from a kids franchise message board, but I just feel like there are some fairly immature members in here. Obviously, I'm not referring to you A.I. You've been quite pleasant.

I will be the first to say that you will not find more intelligent conversation about video games anywhere else but here. Sure, it's coated with a bit of harsh and honest banter, but everyone here knows what they're talking about. Video games are a way of life around here, and my good buddy Peanut, who I have known for over seven years, is the man I go to for anything I'm unsure about. He will be more than welcome to share his wisdom to anyone who asks for it.

It's funny you say I've been pleasant, because I used to be absolutely horrible. I've lost my modship over calling someone fat, been temporarily banned, and had many threads locked because of me. Some of the hate still lingers, but I've taken many leaves of absence from this board to take care of my real life stuff and that has wavered my bitterness. I've also switched to a bit of a casual gamer these days, so things don't bother me as much as they used to. Now that I'm getting older (not that I'm old, but still), I just don't have the energy to argue anymore. I'd rather just keep everything to myself.

But that's enough about me. I don't even know why I wrote all of this. Maybe I'm becoming a homo. :ohwell:

[愛]

All of these guys are professional douche bags, just keep that in mind. Of course, I wouldn't have it any other way.

And Matt, I f*cking love you. I miss all the good times.

[AquaParade]

Nice speech A.I. :):lol:

I can vibe with most of what you said. I can even agree that Peanut is knowledgeable, when it comes to video-games. I just wish he were a little less "professional douche-bag", so I could have some mature debates with him.
"That game sucks, you ass-clown!!!! Shut the **** up!!!!", just doesn't seem that intelligent to me.

[Peanut]

You can't have intelligent debates with someone who doesn't know what the f*ck they're talking about, or argues semantics. The Crysis 2 bullsh*t was enough to prove to me that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. And I like how you act like I haven't given very clear opinions citing multiple facts to back up my arguments with you about games. You're the one who can never back up your horsesh*t opinions.

And I'll get in on the Matt praise. Always a nice feeling of nostalgia when he posts. I keep thinking it's weird that I feel nostalgia for stuff on the Drome, but I've been posting here damn near 10 years now. I was like 15 when I started posting here.

[XERO]

"That game sucks, you ass-clown!!!! Shut the **** up!!!!", just doesn't seem that intelligent to me.

Such is the Language of the Gamer.

[GK Punk]

Nice speech A.I. :):lol:


It's.. Ai. Not A.I. As in the Japanese word.

[XERO]

Tell him, G.K.!

[Peanut]

GK in here too!? Damn! 3 DL's dropping into this thread in one night. Feels good!

[GK Punk]

It's kind of like a reunion in here

[Storm Wolf]

Wow... So one month of PSN+ free? That's disturbing. They may as well just mail me a grilled cheese....that I have to assemble and grill myself. I seriously hope they are going to compensate for people who have lost money and information due to this.

So I suppose I will assume they have stolen my information as well? I haven't used my PS3 in a long while and truthfully cannot remember if I put any information on there like credit or debit cards.

I am worried now. It's actually making me shy away from wanting to play the system at all...for while anyways.

[Peanut]

Just keep on eye on your stuff and you should be fine. The information IS out there, so whatever you may have put on PSN is in someone's hands now. We're all just hoping they don't do anything with what they have.

[That Matt Guy]

Nice to know I'm still appreciated 'round here.

It's kind of like a reunion in here

Totally. Now if only Voltron or Anarky would show up...

[Barkworm]

hai gaiz!

I was so happy when I had my PS3 for one day and tried to download some PSN games but I couldn't! Gladly, I don't even have a credit card but the fact that I had to change the password I've been using on thousands of sites for years wasn't that great either.

[AquaParade]

Peanut, I said Crysis 2 had great A.I. when it was functional, had great graphics, and an awesome musical score. You called it crappy and said that without it's graphics, it was comparable to Homefront.

I'd say my opinion was just as valuable as yours, not to mention, probably more popular.


P.S. I'm glad to play a part in bringing all you assholes back together ;]

[GK Punk]

The thread just got legendary, Barkworm has appeared!

[deadpoolRKO]

Seeing all you guys happy to talk to each other in this thread , is the only good thing i've seen come out of this PSN fiasco.

[AquaParade]

I feel like Dr. Manhattan...or a Giant Alien Squid.

[Brodie]

That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Don't pull pop-culture references that don't mean anything.

You should feel more like Rebecca Black. You know why that works? How that makes sense? Everyone hates you.

Well, almost everyone. And anyone who doesn't just lacks legitimate taste.

That's how you pull a pop-culture reference.

[AquaParade]

That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Don't pull pop-culture references that don't mean anything.

You should feel more like Rebecca Black. You know why that works? How that makes sense? Everyone hates you.

Well, almost everyone. And anyone who doesn't just lacks legitimate taste.

That's how you pull a pop-culture reference.

Lmao, lighten up, kid. Anyone who "hates" anyone in here, seriously needs to relax haha.

Wrong. Being a giant alien squid, would mean that your collective disdain for me has brought you together again....ahem...silly :lol:

To keep slightly on topic... I've decided I'm going to Pick up Portal 2 on PS3 this week, during gamestop's sale. I haven't been able to play any games with my friend, since we both sold our 360's last year. I love that Valve has implemented cross-platform gaming. Anyone else planning on playing this with a buddy on Steam?

[Candy Kappa]

Blue, naked and able to replicate yourself?

which reminds me I have yet to see the full movie with the pirate story and all

[AquaParade]

[QUOTE=Kiwamu The Kappa;845757]Blue, naked and able to replicate yourself?
/QUOTE]

That too...but seriously, I just explained the reference, directly above your post. Lets just hope I don't offend anyone else, with pop-culture references.

[Brodie]

You get a pass for having a Swamp Thing signature. Just this once.

[AquaParade]

You get a pass for having a Swamp Thing signature. Just this once.

Greatest comic ever.

[Ninjinister]

Seriously love what they've just done with the character in the comics... but that's for another day, another discussion.

[Cure]

Being a giant alien squid, would mean that your collective disdain for me has brought you together again....ahem...silly :lol:

Not disdain. Hate. Don' t get it twisted.

[Storm Wolf]

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11102763/1/sony-gets-hacked-a-second-time.html

Sooo....they were actually hacked twice? Was this already known or are they just figuring this out?

BLAH.... What a mess.

[Jester]

I don't know how this is not going to practically kill Sony. Who's going to trust them with online play after this colossal mess?

[That Matt Guy]

I understand why everyone on here hates Sony now.

[The Stryker]

Who's going to trust them with online play after this colossal mess?

vyufDxxWIsM

[Jester]

vyufDxxWIsM
So the totally delusional?

[Storm Wolf]

O.o

Sacrilege!

Thanks for posting that Stryker, I needed my dose of stupid for the day.

I wish I knew half of what he was trying to say..... guess I don't speak Chadwarden.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I understand why everyone on here hates Sony now.

just want to know how i can get in on this lawsuit, lol! :tlol:

[Candy Kappa]

LordKat and Nash Bozard debates the Sony mess
http://www.lordkat.com/tuesday-tech-talk-nash-bozard-050311.html

[Jester]

vyufDxxWIsM
So...youtube cuts out at work and I didn't get far into this video. Watched it home...didn't get much farther. I have never wanted to choke someone to death in my life, more than that idiot.

[Cure]

You're just a hater. Chad daddy be ballin'.

[愛]

Chadwarden is a role model for me.

[Cure]

PSN wasn't even behind a firewall, holy sh*t. I have a goddamned firewall.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/psn-servers-were-unpatched-and-had-no-firewall-installed-secu/

[AquaParade]

vyufDxxWIsM

:lol: This is ****in hilarious!

[Peanut]

I haven't been able to play any games with my friend, since we both sold our 360's last year.

Yep. That explains it all.

[AquaParade]

Yep. That explains it all.

:lol:Hahah, I was waiting for that. I guess it was too easy of a shot.

EDIT: I thought you were quoting me on liking that Chad guy's video, and were comparing me to him lol. How does me selling my 360 explain something? My 360 broke, unfortunately, and I just didn't have the ambition to fix it. May pick up a new model though, when I move. Gears 3 looks like a nice guilty pleasure.

[Peanut]

It's just always extremely telling.

[AquaParade]

Hmmm. I see.

I just don't see the significance of my friend and I selling 360's. Especially a broken one.:tcool:

[Storm Wolf]

PSN wasn't even behind a firewall, holy sh*t. I have a goddamned firewall.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/psn-servers-were-unpatched-and-had-no-firewall-installed-secu/

Sooo... what this seems to say to me is Sony got a little to comfortable with things and decided it wouldn't hurt to have no security? Lazy much...or just stupid?

[AquaParade]

I think their stupidity caused them to be lazy...er, the other way around?

Seriously though, wtf? I'm not a technical expert, but I roughly know what a firewall is. Why wouldn't they have one???

[The Stryker]

Because they're idiots.

Hey. Atleast it was free, right?

[Storm Wolf]

Because they're idiots.

Hey. Atleast it was free, right?

I get enough free stupidity on a daily basis...why would I want more from Sony?

Actually I'd be even more pissed off if I paid good money for it and this still happened. Not saying that I'm not POed that it happened in the first place.

[AquaParade]

Because they're idiots.

Hey. Atleast it was free, right?

Responses like this aren't worth much. I mean these guys have been sitting on the throne of electronic sales for over a decade. They can't just have always been "idiots". What happened? Terrorist impersonators? Skrull Invasion? Did they just get cocky?

[Peanut]

Get cocky? Where the f*ck have you been? Did you never hear the "It's so good you'll get a second job just to afford one!" bullsh*t Sony trotted out along with the PS3? Their sh*tty attitude is arguably what put them in 3rd place this generation.

[AquaParade]

Get cocky? Where the f*ck have you been? Did you never hear the "It's so good you'll get a second job just to afford one!" bullsh*t Sony trotted out along with the PS3? Their sh*tty attitude is arguably what put them in 3rd place this generation.

Yes. They had to GET cocky at some point. Maybe they always were. I did put questions marks lol.

[JameO]

PSN wasn't even behind a firewall, holy sh*t. I have a goddamned firewall.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/psn-servers-were-unpatched-and-had-no-firewall-installed-secu/

Finally it was uncovered! The reason behind it taking almost 4 days until they even knew they were compromised. Like others stated, free apparently meant keeping them unpatched for 3 months and no firewall. This just keeps getting worse and I truly don't know how Sony will ever bounce back from this. Like Peanut stated being already behind in the generation, and to have this bring them down completely. RIP Sony.

[deadpoolRKO]

well .. even more disapointing news.

Playstation said at there press conference the PSN would be returning this week.

thursday they said they'd finished rebuilding the network

yesterday they said more test were required as " security is our priority "

so now they've taken away any timeframe for it being back up.

they just say it will be back up " soon "

[AquaParade]

They need to stop ****-teasing, shut up until they have good information, and make this thing work!

[Volvagia]

I want to know how soon, soon is, I'm tired of waiting for this sh*t to go online.

[Turo602]

I want to know how soon, soon is, I'm tired of waiting for this sh*t to go online.

When the PS4 is out.:lol:

[XERO]

When the PS4 is out.:lol:

I wouldn't bet on it.

[Cure]

Why anyone is still looking forward to getting on PSN is beyond me.

[Storm Wolf]

I don't get it either. You don't have to be on PSN to play games so m not in any rush. Actually the only thing I use the internet for on that console is Little Big Planet. *shrugs*

[Ninjinister]

I'd rather have them get their s**t fixed and do it right than have it asap.

(By the way all I'm looking forward to is getting my classic Jade costume I tried getting the day they took it down. I couldn't care less about anything else.)

[愛]

Remember when PSN was good? Me either.

Seriously, the PS3's wireless has given me nothing but problems. It just randomly cuts out when I'm playing stuff online. I thought it was a router problem, but I tried a different one and I got the same thing. I never have this issue with Live. Granted, I have that connection wired.

I dunno, the PSN games are nice, I guess. I'd just rather play online games on 360.

[GK Punk]

I actually have had more problems with the Xbox live than PSN. (Which is why I stopped paying for XBL, sadly...)

[That Matt Guy]

Seriously, the PS3's wireless has given me nothing but problems. It just randomly cuts out when I'm playing stuff online. I thought it was a router problem, but I tried a different one and I got the same thing. I never have this issue with Live. Granted, I have that connection wired.

I had a lot of problems with it too, then I got it wired and now rarely have any connection issues.

I can't really comment on how "good" I think the PSN is because I mostly use it to play Battlefield on, and it serves that purpose fine. If I had a decent PC I'd be playing it on that rather than any console though.

[JameO]

Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

About the Xbox Live bit, I have had friends that had flaky issues with wireless as well, but from my view it looked like a router issue. I would rather run cable with repeaters everywhere than to go wireless. A major turning point for me is the large download times for updates that seem to be every week or so. Any xbox live update I received took a few seconds and I was back into my game again. It is almost like they are adding a service pack to the ps3 every week, insane! Anyways, this said I will still be playing games like SOCOM online with friends, but xbox live will always be the better online experience. Sure it has a price tag, but well worth it in my opinion. Now one thing I would like is dedicated servers, heck I would even pay extra monthly for each game if they had dedicated servers. Some games setup just doesn't seem to pick the right host (Black Ops) and leads to host changes and games being dropped.

[JameO]

Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

About the Xbox Live bit, I have had friends that had flaky issues with wireless as well, but from my view it looked like a router issue. I would rather run cable with repeaters everywhere than to go wireless. A major turning point for me is the large download times for updates that seem to be every week or so. Any xbox live update I received took a few seconds and I was back into my game again. It is almost like they are adding a service pack to the ps3 every week, insane! Anyways, this said I will still be playing games like SOCOM online with friends, but xbox live will always be the better online experience. Sure it has a price tag, but well worth it in my opinion. Now one thing I would like is dedicated servers, heck I would even pay extra monthly for each game if they had dedicated servers. Some games setup just doesn't seem to pick the right host (Black Ops) and leads to host changes and games being dropped.

Edit: So apparently the second day that they were in the blind, "computers rebooted at random times when they were not scheduled to", well that might be a key indication of it being compromised. And then there is people all over the web saying don't blame Sony, no network is safe. Yes this is true, but also if they did the updates like they were instructed to and also if they had installed things like firewalls or honeypots then they could have known a lot quicker of the break in and not leave your entire infrastructure open for 3 full days. There is no network unbreakable, but there is also no excuse for choosing to opt out of very neccessary pieces of equipment.

Edit 2: Apparently I am a n00b, sorry for the double post. Not enough sleep leads to dumb moves like this.

[Peanut]

Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

The latest firmware update available at the time of press is always on the disc.

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.

[愛]

This is gay! I'm outta here! ....IT'S LOOOOOCKED! *passes through a door*

I wish I was gay.

[That Matt Guy]

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.

When May 31st gets here they'll probably announce that they need another week.

[JameO]

The latest firmware update available at the time of press is always on the disc.

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.

That is true, but was strange because I clicked the PSN network login and it said successful login, then did the update. But it would still download the update? Is the whole update on the disc, or is it a pointer to the server to download it? Either way, the 31st until everything is up? By then I might have SOCOM returned seeing it collect dust while I wait to play online.

[Peanut]

It comes on the disc. You wouldn't even be able to play the game if you couldn't update your firmware and not everyone has their PS3 online, so they can't just screw over the majority of PS3 owners by having the only means to an update be online. I also wouldn't give too much notice to most of the things the PS3 says right now. Mine keeps telling me that Uncharted 2 just came out.

But who knows, they may have an update server chugging away somewhere, although I would be surprised.

Hopefully Sony decides to bring their European incentive over to the NA. Apparently they'll be giving PS3 owners the choice of 2 games out of a possible 5 and and PSP owners the choice of 2 games out of a possible 4. That's a pretty generous offer, depending of course one what choices are actually available. Free games is free games, though. I think straight up giving away free games is not only one of the only ways they're going to satisfy a lot of people, but it pretty much guarantees that everyone will be trying those games out on their PS3 as soon as possible, which works well in their favour.

[ThirdMarioBro]

But either way, their reputation and the benefits of a free service are permanently borked after this. I don't expect their brand image to recover quickly.

Tis' a shame, because PSN has never given me one ounce of trouble. Sure, XBL's updates are smooth as silk in comparison to Sony's 20 minute installs (which are inexcusable), but functionality wise, I've never had a problem. I hope they recover from this.

[JameO]

Could very well have been on the disc, was just strange that it said sign in successful and I hadn't loaded a game but I haven't used it in a while so could be just the way it is. Then loaded the game and had another update but that was off the disc for sure was downloaded instantly. Either way 2 free games would be nice for sure. Hopefully they have worthy options, but free is free like you said. I will still be using their service for any shooters I can't play online for xbox, and like tmb said for what I used it for the online service was good. Nothing amazing but from friends that have ps3 and black ops they were having better luck server wise but that aint xbox live fault. I am hoping they can bounce back but it will for sure be a hard task to complete.

[deadpoolRKO]

the Playstation network is back online.

The store is still down so the welcome back packages haven't started yet , but you can log in and play online.

[That Matt Guy]

They finally fixed it, or at least partially. Still no sign of all that junk Sony is supposedly going to hand out though.

[AT-Man]

I couldn't log in yet, but could update system.

[deadpoolRKO]

I couldn't log in yet, but could update system.

well you have to update before you log in , the update makes it mandatory that you change your pw so you have to have it first

[TheCanadiandrome]

haven't run the update yet, but will do so later

[Volvagia]

It's finally up in Sweden, now comes the wait for the store to go online.

[Ninjinister]

The store's the only thing I care about, dammit.

[Volvagia]

Same here, I never play online.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The store's the only thing I care about, dammit.

Same here, I never play online.

ditto for me as well

[AquaParade]

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/16/details-of-the-welcome-back-programme-for-scee-users-2/

Rewards program detailed. Consider me satisfied. I'll probably take Ratchet & Clank along with one other. I love Infamous, but it's the only game on the list I HAVE beaten, so I feel like I should go with something else.

[TheCanadiandrome]

i think i'll go with a PSP game.

hey, has anyone else gotten an error message when they try to do the System Update? i've gotten errored out 3 times and it's pissin me off, u can't get the update. going to contact tech support me thinks

[JameO]

Not a problem with updating and been playing SOCOM smoothly online. And if that goes live with those games thats a sweet deal. Maybe not great for people that have had a play through those games but Infamous was one I wanted to give a try and I have never even played little big planet (yes sad I know). So would be sweet if I could get both of those games.

[TheCanadiandrome]

well, i'm still not able to update, and according to Sony's Tech Support if i can't get it to work, then i might have to send my PS3 in for repairs!

and that sucks a$$! Sony f*cks up it's online service, then decides to fix it with a Firmware update, and that maybe f*cks up my PS3...way to go Sony

[That Matt Guy]

Meh, I'm not really interested in any of those games they are offering. I would rather just have store credit.

[deadpoolRKO]

so Sony went into more detail about there " welcome back " program


30 days after the psn comes back up PS3 users get to pick 2 of the follwing games to DL and keep forever

inFAMOUS

Little Big PLanet

Wipout HD + Fury

Dead Nation

Stardust HD

&&

Psp users get 2 of the follwing 4 games to DL and keep forever

Little Big Planet

Mod Nation Racers

Killzone Liberation

pursuit force

[TheCanadiandrome]

so Sony went into more detail about there " welcome back " program


30 days after the psn comes back up PS3 users get to pick 2 of the follwing games to DL and keep forever

inFAMOUS

Little Big PLanet

Wipout HD + Fury

Dead Nation

Stardust HD

&&

Psp users get 2 of the follwing 4 games to DL and keep forever

Little Big Planet

Mod Nation Racers

Killzone Liberation

pursuit force

only interested in Mod Nation Racers for PSP

[TheCanadiandrome]

does anyone know how to fix a PS3 that won't system/firmware update?

[Ninjinister]

Oh wow, nothing I give a $#!+ about. I'd rather have a choice of PS1 classics.

Wait, is this still the Euro list, or is this the US one?

[Cure]

It's the US one. Such crap, right?

[Jester]

It's the US one. Such crap, right?
No, that's the greatest thing Sony could offer. Ever! Games no one cares about or already own...you think they'd give credit to be used on something you'd really want...but hey, that's our Sony...


Wait...I don't even own a next gen console or play on line. Nevermind what i said.

[Ninjinister]

It's the US one. Such crap, right?

Definitely.

[Peanut]

You do have to love their choice of outdated or worthless titles. I mean, it's nice for people who've never played any of them, but for the majority of people who actually give a sh*t about PSN being down? Great.

[deadpoolRKO]

Honestly I thought they were only going to give people PS+ subscriptions. So 2 free games ( 4 if you own a psp ) is a little bit better. PS Store credit or Cross game chat would've been there best options imo.

[愛]

Is this for anyone who has a PSN account? Because I don't even think I provided my credit card information. Not that I really care, the list of free games is horrific.

[AquaParade]

The list is far from horrific. It's a bummer if you already own those games, but they are quality titles.

[TheCanadiandrome]

You do have to love their choice of outdated or worthless titles. I mean, it's nice for people who've never played any of them, but for the majority of people who actually give a sh*t about PSN being down? Great.

this is true

[Cure]

The list is far from horrific. It's a bummer if you already own those games, but they are quality titles.

I think you forgot to mention that you're not affiliated with Sony.

[AquaParade]

:lol:

I just think it's a good list. I understand the frustration for those of you who have played the crap out of these and own them, however.

I have beaten both Infamous and played Wipeout hd, but I am still stoked to be getting both of these games for free. :ohwell:

[The Stryker]

In what crazy backwards world is Dead Nation considered a 'quality title'?

EDIT: Also LBP. That game is so below mediocre it hurts.

[AquaParade]

:lol:

I just think it's a good list. I understand the frustration for those of you who have played the crap out of these and own them, however.

I have beaten Infamous and played Wipeout hd, but I am still stoked to be getting both of these games for free. :ohwell:

In what crazy backwards world is Dead Nation considered a 'quality title'?

You got me there. I haven't actually played Dead Nation, but I have a couple friends who think it's a really fun game. I'm sure others would agree with them. Infamous, Little Big Planet, Wipeout....good luck arguing those aren't quality titles. I mean you technically can, but...

Stryker, you can argue any title isn't quality, but when discussing something that matters to such a large group, you tend to go by the general consensus, understand? Ton's of people love these games. I'll reiterate for some of you, that yes, it sucks if you already own these games. I'm not cryin for you though.

[愛]

These are old-ass games that probably a lot of people already own considering they've been given many price slashes. Nothing like a company failing to keep your personal identity information private and then saying "sorry about that, here's games you already have!"

[AquaParade]

These are old-ass games that probably a lot of people already own considering they've been given many price slashes. Nothing like a company failing to keep your personal identity information private and then saying "sorry about that, here's games you already have!"

I respect your opinion, and your outlook makes a lot of sense to me. Personally, I don't feel unsafe and all my money is in check. I'm getting two free games that I love, and have even played before. I'm happy.

[Peanut]

I honestly couldn't give less of a sh*t either way, technically Sony doesn't owe anyone anything aside from an apology and guaranteed secure network, but don't act like them giving away worthless crap is doing good by anyones standards aside from fanboy retards who would have been just as happy with a kick in the teeth. This isn't good will, it simply makes the most marketing sense, they aren't losing anything by letting you have these games for free and people will just forgive them for this entire f*ckup because they get free sh*t.

They're good a knowing how to herd the sheep back into the barn. That's for sure.

[AquaParade]

Free games is as good as a kick in the teeth? I'm not taking this literally, but it's just not true. I'm happy because I'm getting free games. Is that really hard to believe? Sony screwed up big time, and free games don't make up for what could have happened to you, but try and balance that with what did happen to the majority of you: You couldn't play online for a month. Now if your house gets broken into or you have money stolen from your account, you can come back and call me an asshole.

On another note, I came up on some extra money and was wondering if any of you guys have suggestions on what to pick up, that isn't still full priced.

Right now I am considering New Vegas and Wolverine, seeing as I haven't played either. Did any of you enjoy Killzone 3? Looked "meh" to me, but I'm kinda in the mood for slick production values today.

[愛]

Just get New Vegas. You'll really get your money's worth.

[Cure]

Free games is as good as a kick in the teeth? I'm not taking this literally, but it's just not true.

He never said they were like getting kicked in the teeth. Com. Pre. Hen. Sion.

[Peanut]

Free games is as good as a kick in the teeth? I'm not taking this literally, but it's just not true.

Really? Again? Again with this sh*t? I was trying to convey the point that Sony fanboys would be satisfied with WHATEVER Sony handed out, not that what they're giving out is equal to a boot to the mouth.

What the f*ck is wrong with your reading comprehension skills!?

[AquaParade]

Really? Again? Again with this sh*t? I was trying to convey the point that Sony fanboys would be satisfied with WHATEVER Sony handed out, not that what they're giving out is equal to a boot to the mouth.

What the f*ck is wrong with your reading comprehension skills!?

:lol:

Dude, I said I wasn't taking it literally. I understand that you meant the games were worthless. My point still stands. I am HAPPY with the games, so they apparently aren't worthless to everyone. Oh, I guess that makes me a fanboy. Looks like you need to work on your comprehension, because I clearly stated I wasn't taking it literally. Damn, lol.

Cure, he did say that. Are you retarded or you can't read or what??? If you can read you'll also notice that I clearly said that I know it wasn't literal. His point was The games are worthless gifts, to which I disagreed. Man, oh man, Cure, you are good for a laugh.

[AquaParade]

Just get New Vegas. You'll really get your money's worth.

Thanks Ai. Have the glitches mostly been smoothed over? Or have you not played it recently?

[Peanut]

:lol:

Dude, I said I wasn't taking it literally. I understand that you meant the games were worthless. My point still stands. I am HAPPY with the games, so they apparently aren't worthless to everyone. Oh, I guess that makes me a fanboy. Looks like you need to work on your comprehension, because I clearly stated I wasn't taking it literally. Damn, lol.

WOW! I feel like just having the rest of the forum come in here and read this.

You're a complete f*cking clown.

[AquaParade]

WOW! I feel like just having the rest of the forum come in here and read this.

You're a complete f*cking clown.

It's as simple as me clearly posting " I know its not literal" and you and Cure posting " you really took that literally???" Anyone reading all this can see that, dude...Did you really not comprehend me when I said " I know its not literal" Do I have to spell out the fact that I know you are using a simile? I clearly said it.

I would love to see what route you take with this, because the facts are right in front of us. I'm guessing a subject change.

[Cure]

Cure, he did say that. Are you retarded or you can't read or what??? If you can read you'll also notice that I clearly said that I know it wasn't literal. His point was The games are worthless gifts, to which I disagreed. Man, oh man, Cure, you are good for a laugh.

He said the fanboys would have been happy with whatever was thrown at them, whether physical pain or free crappy games. He never said the games were like a kick in the teeth. I don't see how you don't see that. And saying you didn't take it literally doesn't help.

[Peanut]

Oh man. Wow. New levels in here, kids. New f*cking levels.

[AquaParade]

He said the fanboys would have been happy with whatever was thrown at them, whether physical pain or free crappy games. He never said the games were like a kick in the teeth. I don't see how you don't see that. And saying you didn't take it literally doesn't help.

Exactly Cure. So what he was saying is...

"Only fanboys would be happy with free games, because to anyone who is not a fanboy, they are worthless."

Are we on the same page here? That's what I got from Peanuts post.

I came in and said, " I don't think they are worthless." Does that make me a fanboy? The fact that I am pleased with these games? If you say so.

Cure, Peanut. Do you understand that in my first post quoting Peanut I said "I know its not literal" and then you replied saying "how could you take that literally?"

...lmao, try addressing that fact instead of just indirectly insulting me in another post.

[愛]

Thanks Ai. Have the glitches mostly been smoothed over? Or have you not played it recently?

If you're talking about the PS3 version, then I would not know. I only played the PC version. I also haven't played it since it came out.

[Peanut]

Free games is as good as a kick in the teeth? I'm not taking this literally, but it's just not true.

The rest of this sh*t is irrelevant at this point. We called you out for you thinking I was making a direct correlation between the games they're giving away and a super kick. Is that not what you're doing in that quote? Incorrectly comprehending what I meant? Also, stop using the word literal. Neither of us used it and you clearly don't know how to.

You did this same sh*t to Ninjinister like a week ago. Stop being retarded.

[AquaParade]

The rest of this sh*t is irrelevant at this point. We called you out for you thinking I was making a direct correlation between the games they're giving away and a super kick. Is that not what you're doing in that quote? Incorrectly comprehending what I meant? Also, stop using the word literal. Neither of us used it and you clearly don't know how to.

You did this same sh*t to Ninjinister like a week ago. Stop being retarded.

Jesus Christ Peanut. Did you not read the part DIRECTLY after the bolded words. It says " I'm not taking this literally"

"I'm not taking this literally."


Sorry to be excessive but I guess it's the only way you will understand lol.

Words fails me. Wtf? Lol, sorry, I just can't decide whether you just spouted your big mouth of before seeing the following sentence, or are just plain stupid. I mean christ man, it's right after the part you bolded up in my post. I said I'm not taking this literally, but its just not true. "its just not true" referring to your simile. It's a crappy simile because free games aren't worthless to everyone but fanboys. <- Now thats the topic we should discuss, because it is actually related to this thread.

[Peanut]

I'm at a f*cking loss. It's to the point where it's just so stupid I have no idea how to converse with it anymore.

[愛]

I don't even know what the argument is about anymore. I guess I'm just getting too dumb from all of this.

The way I see it with this horrible set of games is yeah, the games suck, but at least we're getting SOMETHING. The service is free, but then again the majority of PS3's titles require online to get the other half of the game's experience. So to have half of your library taken from you is a bit of a drag, and Sony recognizes this. They could've been okay with an apology and a "well, tough sh*t, we'll do better next time." I guess that's why the games are free, but they're not top quality titles.

As to whether my opinion is valid or not is up for interpretation, but really I don't care either way about this whole thing. I haven't touched my PS3 in months since I mostly game on 360 and PC. Wii once in a blue moon.

[AquaParade]

I'm at a f*cking loss. It's to the point where it's just so stupid I have no idea how to converse with it anymore.

You are at a loss, Peanut. You insulted me, reread my post. Realized that I said I wasn't taking it literally, and now have nothing to do but pout or insult.

[Peanut]

The argument hasn't been about the validity of the titles available for awhile. It was more about AquaParade directly comparing two things I said that weren't meant to be compared and then him backtracking on it and using the world "literally" with reckless abandon for half a page.

Either way, I've gotten to the point where I'm done bothering listening to his sh*t. Nothing he says is worth a damn.

Edit: AquaParade, just because you didn't take the kick in the teeth comment literally doesn't mean that you understood the comment at all. Again, you got into the same pissing match with Ninjinister the other day and we all told you to stop being a f*cktard then, so I think it's time we all started just ignoring your idiocy.

[愛]

Oh...well, damn. Can't help anyone there. :lol:

[AquaParade]

The argument hasn't been about the validity of the titles available for awhile. It was more about AquaParade directly comparing two things I said that weren't meant to be compared and then him backtracking on it and using the world "literally" with reckless abandon for half a page.

Either way, I've gotten to the point where I'm done bothering listening to his sh*t. Nothing he says is worth a damn.

Peanut... Come back to earth. We miss you <3

Take Peanut's word for it, or re-read the last page for yourself. You'll see where he stumbled, by acting like I couldn't comprehend a simile, when I blatantly stated I knew it wasn't "literal" ;] Are you really trying to rally up people to ignore me? Geeze dude, no hard feelings or anything lol.

I didn't understand your comment Peanut? I took it as you saying the games they offered aren't worth **** - i.e. - "a kick in the teeth". Was that not your point? If not, I apologize for misunderstanding, but I'm pretty damn sure that was your point, and I responded accordingly.

[Peanut]

So you didn't directly compare those things? Is that what you're trying to say? Keep in mind that not taking the kick in the teeth "literally" doesn't mean you can compare the two statements like you did in your first reply to me, which is what this entire thing is about.

Edit: NO! That wasn't my point, you f*cking tard! If you read it correctly, you'd note my point is Sony fans would take ANYTHING, no matter if it was good or bad. I wasn't comparing the games to a kick in the teeth! This is what the entire thing is about and you're JUST coming to this god damn realization!? Jesus f*cking Christ.

[AquaParade]

So you didn't directly compare those things? Is that what you're trying to say? Keep in mind that not taking the kick in the teeth "literally" doesn't mean you can compare the two statements like you did in your first reply to me, which is what this entire thing is about.

Didn't directly compare what two things? You said free games are as good as a kick in the teeth. It wasn't literal, but it's still a statement claming that those free games aren't...any...good. I replied saying I disagreed with your simile. That doesn't mean I took it literally, man...If you want to send me a message we can clear it up, but everyone here is probably sick of our argument.

[Ninjinister]

You have officially ruined Swamp Thing for me by tainting his presence with your nonsense. Thanks a lot, f**ker.

[Cure]

I didn't understand your comment Peanut? I took it as you saying the games they offered aren't worth **** - i.e. - "a kick in the teeth". Was that not your point? If not, I apologize for misunderstanding, but I'm pretty damn sure that was your point, and I responded accordingly.

That was NOT his point, oh my God. That's why we're telling you your comprehension is extremely poor.

[Peanut]

DYou said free games are as good as a kick in the teeth. It wasn't literal, but it's still a statement claming that those free games aren't...any...good.

Read again, f*cktard!

don't act like them giving away worthless crap is doing good by anyones standards aside from fanboy retards who would have been just as happy with a kick in the teeth.

Where in that statement do I say the games they're giving away are as good as a kick in the teeth!? COMPREHENSION! The entire point of that statement is that no matter what it is, Sony fanboys would lap it up, whether it be free games or a kick in the teeth. AGAIN - COMPREHENSION!

[AquaParade]

what they are doing is not worthless or as good as a kick in the teeth ( figuratively of course)

like i said dude message me if you wanna continue this



ninjister try and relax bud

[Peanut]

Go f*ck yourself. You argued like a little b*tch for an entire page and now that you've been beat down you wanna run to PM's. Grow a pair and read a book.

Also, Ninjinister = lawl.

[AquaParade]

Go f*ck yourself. You argued like a little b*tch for an entire page and now that you've been beat down you wanna run to PM's. Grow a pair and read a book.

Also, Ninjinister = lawl.

You know me so well, Peanut. I'm scared of my online reputation. Has nothing to do with me being tired of arguing with someone as rude and asinine as yourself. I should grow a pair of online nuts. Sorry dude, I'm just done with this conversation.

[Cure]

ninjister

With this and you calling Ai A.I. it's pretty clear you can't comprehend some people's usernames, either.

[Peanut]

You know me so well, Peanut. I'm scared of my online reputation. Has nothing to do with me being tired of arguing with someone as rude and asinine as yourself. I should grow a pair of online nuts. Sorry dude, I'm just done with this conversation.

Boo f*cking hoo. You're not saving face by reverting to the "you're all rude" standby. Also, the "I'm too cool for the internet! Get a life!" attitude is so worn.

[AquaParade]

Boo f*cking hoo. You're not saving face by reverting to the "you're all rude" standby. Also, the "I'm too cool for the internet! Get a life!" attitude is so worn.

I didn't say you are all rude. I said you were. The "internet isn't cool" schtick sucks, unless someone is calling you out and telling you to grow balls on a message board. Also I'm a bitch for ending a conversation we obviously weren't going to agree upon? Who raised you dude?

[Peanut]

Gonna start up again now? It's cool. I'm sure someone else in here will enjoy making you look like more of a clown.

[AquaParade]

Gonna start up again now? It's cool. I'm sure someone else in here will enjoy making you look like more of a clown.

Let it go, dude.

[Revan]

*waiting to see who gets the last word in*

[XERO]

What the hella-hell just happened in the past hour?

[Peanut]

He can have it. I don't have anything to prove.

More on topic, Yakuza 4 is really great and people should give it a try. It's insane.

[愛]

He can have it. I don't have anything to prove.

More on topic, Yakuza 4 is really great and people should give it a try. It's insane.

Getting this game next week. Can't wait.

[XERO]

Dumb story.

I was never really into Tekken back then, but when the first Yakuza came out, I thought it was a spinoff game for one of the Tekken characters.

It wasn't until the next week I found out his name was "Kazuya" and Yakuza was an ENTIRE different series.

:|

[愛]

Dumb story.

I was never really into Tekken back then, but when the first Yakuza came out, I thought it was a spinoff game for one of the Tekken characters.

It wasn't until the next week I found out his name was "Kazuya" and Yakuza was an ENTIRE different series.

:|

You never heard of the biggest crime syndicate in Japan? :(

[Peanut]

Although Tekken sometimes equally as insane as the Yakuza series.

http://www.thunderboltgames.com/s/reviews/ps2/tekken_5_2.jpg

[XERO]

You never heard of the biggest crime syndicate in Japan?

Yeah, of course.

I just thought the character from Tekken's name was "Yakuza". Kinda got the letters jumbled up.

[愛]

Yeah, of course.

I just thought the character from Tekken's name was "Yakuza". Kinda got the letters jumbled up.

Well, that's understandable.

[Ninjinister]

Selective dyslexia?

[XERO]

Kinda embarrassing, too.

How would I have been able to talk smack to people while playing Tekken games if I didn't know any of the characters' friggin' names?

Well... besides Law, King, and Eddy 'Lateef Crowder' Gordo?

Selective dyslexia?

More like straight up stupidity. :P

[TheCanadiandrome]

Although Tekken sometimes equally as insane as the Yakuza series.

http://www.thunderboltgames.com/s/reviews/ps2/tekken_5_2.jpg

rofl! good example :tlol:

[Jester]

Which character are we supposed to laugh at Roger Jr. the kangaroo or Wang.

*snicker* Wang....

[Brodie]

You have officially ruined Swamp Thing for me by tainting his presence with your nonsense. Thanks a lot, f**ker.

Finally, someone ****ing said it.

[AquaParade]

Beat Portal 2 a few days ago for ps3. It was seriously fantastic. Great atmosphere, hilarious writing (especially for a video-game), and clever as hell puzzles. Give it up for Valve. So far, I'm enjoying the co op even more, but I am waiting for a buddy to pick up the game, before completing it.

Just picked up the ps3 version of Fallout New Vegas. I loved Fallout 3 for a few weeks, but found it hard to go back to after taking a break. This one looks a little more colorful though, which is kind of up my alley.

[That Matt Guy]

New Vegas glitches like a motherf*cker. If you can put up with the constant freezing or getting stuck in the terrain than its a great game.

[Peanut]

Problem with New Vegas is that Gamebryo was f*cked up to begin with and has some how only continued to get worse over time. Couple that with the fact that Obsidian, who has become notorious for putting out buggy half-complete games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_II_The_Sith _Lords), was behind it and you've got a match made in jank-ass heaven.

That being said, I never had any problems with New Vegas on 360. Not that I played a ton of it. After all the Fallout 3 DLC I was kinda worn on the systems as a whole.

[AquaParade]

Obsidian sure does put out buggy games. The initial reviews which pounced all over the bugs kept me away initially....plus the fact that I had recently played Fallout 3, which is a pretty similar game.

Here's hoping most of the bugs have been patched, because I hear it's a really great experience. Seriously, I've gotta wish it luck after beating Portal 2. Any action game fans out there who are skeptical of playing a "Puzzle game"...Dont be.

[deadpoolRKO]

so is anyone excited about Sony's NGP ( psp 2 )


http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/the-sony-psp2/



OLED Display , dual analog sticks , Trophy integration. it seems to have potential.

I know for me i never got used to the single analog stick on games like socom FTB

but , the GPS , " ps move " type controls , & front and rear cameras seem like a little much & gimmicky.

I assume it's gonna be really expensive when it releases.

[TheCanadiandrome]

so is anyone excited about Sony's NGP ( psp 2 )

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/the-sony-psp2/

OLED Display , dual analog sticks , Trophy integration. it seems to have potential.

I know for me i never got used to the single analog stick on games like socom FTB

but , the GPS , " ps move " type controls , & front and rear cameras seem like a little much & gimmicky.

I assume it's gonna be really expensive when it releases.


i think i'll get one. seeing as though i don't want anything further to do with the "next-next-gen" systems, one of the things i was going to do was go with the new portables

[PizzaPower]

im kinda mad at sony right now, the 2 free ps3 game downloads and i downloaded only 1 so far and its saying i have the other one 2, but i dont. ********.

[Peanut]

It's all messed up for a lot of people. It's probably best just to wait, since everyone is probably trying to access it all at once and destroying the servers.

[TheCanadiandrome]

It's all messed up for a lot of people. It's probably best just to wait, since everyone is probably trying to access it all at once and destroying the servers.

that's what i plan to do, wait

[Storm Wolf]

Saw a PS3 game on the sale rack a few months back and bought it but never put it in.

Demon Souls. I've never really heard of it. The guy at the game store said it was a very difficult. Anyone ever played it and maybe can give me an opinion?

[Brodie]

I own it. I really dig it, but the clerk is right, its incredibly difficult.

I'd usually be turned off of a game because of it, but its part of the charm of Demon's Souls.

Its a neat game, but intended for a very small niche of people, I think. If you aren't easily frustrated, give it a go. Also, don't assume you're terrible at it if you die. A lot. That will happen. Its supposed to. You'll end up getting stronger, the more you play through levels.

I'm stoked for the quasi sequel coming to, Dark Souls.

[Peanut]

The PS3 must have the WORST update system in history. I just got Modnation Racers on sale tonight, decided to throw it in to check it out before I called it a night. God damn thing has 9(!) updates, all of which need to go through the painfully slow download/install process. It wouldn't have been TOO annoying if the thing didn't keep saying my HDD didn't have enough space.

How the f*ck is it possible that I've filled up almost my entire 60GB hard drive on my original machine? I play maybe 3-4 PS3 games a year and have 4 PSone games downloaded on it. What the f*ck is going on that fills in all that space? My 250 GB 360 S still has almost 100GB left on it and that's with over a dozen games fully installed, nearly 100 XBLA games and crazy amounts of DLC. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so difficult just to look at exactly what's on the drive and what's taking up all the space so that I can just delete it, but apparently that either doesn't exist, or is buried so deep within the sh*tty XMB that I can't find it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The PS3 must have the WORST update system in history. I just got Modnation Racers on sale tonight, decided to throw it in to check it out before I called it a night. God damn thing has 9(!) updates, all of which need to go through the painfully slow download/install process. It wouldn't have been TOO annoying if the thing didn't keep saying my HDD didn't have enough space.

How the f*ck is it possible that I've filled up almost my entire 60GB hard drive on my original machine? I play maybe 3-4 PS3 games a year and have 4 PSone games downloaded on it. What the f*ck is going on that fills in all that space? My 250 GB 360 S still has almost 100GB left on it and that's with over a dozen games fully installed, nearly 100 XBLA games and crazy amounts of DLC. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so difficult just to look at exactly what's on the drive and what's taking up all the space so that I can just delete it, but apparently that either doesn't exist, or is buried so deep within the sh*tty XMB that I can't find it.

all i'll say is i guess that's Sony for ya

[deadpoolRKO]

Peanut Im sure you already know to do this, but deleting your old game data helps, i had no idea how huge some of the installs were or that every game had them

[Storm Wolf]

So.. I hear that an Uncharted movie is being made. I couldn't find many details on the project but I did see that they had cast Mark Wahlberg but according to this link (http://screenrant.com/uncharted-movie-mark-wahlberg-david-russell-script-nathan-fillion-benk-117504/) they are thinking of cutting him loose. Does anyone have any "new" info on the situation?

I like Wahlberg well enough but I feel he just isn't right for the role as Nathan Drake. If he is cast I probably won't be seeing the movie until it's in redbox or on the $5 rack at Walmart.

[TheCanadiandrome]

So.. I hear that an Uncharted movie is being made. I couldn't find many details on the project but I did see that they had cast Mark Wahlberg but according to this link (http://screenrant.com/uncharted-movie-mark-wahlberg-david-russell-script-nathan-fillion-benk-117504/) they are thinking of cutting him loose. Does anyone have any "new" info on the situation?

I like Wahlberg well enough but I feel he just isn't right for the role as Nathan Drake. If he is cast I probably won't be seeing the movie until it's in redbox or on the $5 rack at Walmart.

who would u pick to play Nathan Drake?

[Brodie]

So.. I hear that an Uncharted movie is being made. I couldn't find many details on the project but I did see that they had cast Mark Wahlberg but according to this link (http://screenrant.com/uncharted-movie-mark-wahlberg-david-russell-script-nathan-fillion-benk-117504/) they are thinking of cutting him loose. Does anyone have any "new" info on the situation?

I like Wahlberg well enough but I feel he just isn't right for the role as Nathan Drake. If he is cast I probably won't be seeing the movie until it's in redbox or on the $5 rack at Walmart.

He's not involved anymore. He and DeNiro were only attached because the director wanted them. Was a package deal thing, and that guy left.

Thank ****.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The PS3 must have the WORST update system in history. I just got Modnation Racers on sale tonight, decided to throw it in to check it out before I called it a night. God damn thing has 9(!) updates, all of which need to go through the painfully slow download/install process. It wouldn't have been TOO annoying if the thing didn't keep saying my HDD didn't have enough space.

How the f*ck is it possible that I've filled up almost my entire 60GB hard drive on my original machine? I play maybe 3-4 PS3 games a year and have 4 PSone games downloaded on it. What the f*ck is going on that fills in all that space? My 250 GB 360 S still has almost 100GB left on it and that's with over a dozen games fully installed, nearly 100 XBLA games and crazy amounts of DLC. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so difficult just to look at exactly what's on the drive and what's taking up all the space so that I can just delete it, but apparently that either doesn't exist, or is buried so deep within the sh*tty XMB that I can't find it.

I feel 'ya. It's a wreck in every way. Microsoft's got the most streamlined system. System update is like 30 seconds, TOPS. Nintendo's isn't totally broken, but Sony's is just embarrassing to the point of making me want to turn the damn thing off when I see the update screen. Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD demanded a 300MB patch. Hell, the damn game wasn't that big in the first place. What is all this sh*t we have to download?

[Turo602]

who would u pick to play Nathan Drake?

Mark Wahlberg is a good actor but he ruined Max Payne and is also a horrible choice for Nathan Drake. I was thinking either James Lafferty (http://img.listal.com/image/1181600/600full-james-lafferty.jpg) from One Tree Hill or Nathan Fillion (http://blastr.com/assets_c/2010/11/NathanFillion110810-thumb-549x398-51103.jpg) who was the voice actor and character model for Buck in Halo 3 ODST.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Mark Wahlberg is a good actor but he ruined Max Payne and is also a horrible choice for Nathan Drake. I was thinking either James Lafferty (http://img.listal.com/image/1181600/600full-james-lafferty.jpg) from One Tree Hill or Nathan Fillion (http://blastr.com/assets_c/2010/11/NathanFillion110810-thumb-549x398-51103.jpg) who was the voice actor and character model for Buck in Halo 3 ODST.

have never seen One Tree Hill, so i'd go with Fillion myself

[XERO]

Michael Cera.














*bursts out laughing*

[Storm Wolf]

Michael Cera.














*bursts out laughing*

I like how you are trying to kill the franchise with that choice.....

:dead:

[TheCanadiandrome]

yeah no kidding

[XERO]

... What??? :-?

[deadpoolRKO]

so Sony might soon have every game come with a " psn pass "

http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/07/06/so-just-what-the-hell-is-a-psn-pass/

i have a few games that have codes that come with the game that you have to use to play online.

socom 4 , ufc , ect. it kind of sucks because it really diminishes the re-sell value

[TheCanadiandrome]

so Sony might soon have every game come with a " psn pass "

http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/07/06/so-just-what-the-hell-is-a-psn-pass/

i have a few games that have codes that come with the game that you have to use to play online.

socom 4 , ufc , ect. it kind of sucks because it really diminishes the re-sell value

another reason for me NOT to go online

[PizzaPower]

oh man thats retarded but at the same time i guess smart? a way to make money.

[TheCanadiandrome]

well, my PS3 is in the shop now after i finally just decided to send it rather than plunk another $400 for a new one, so in a few short days it'll be all good...hopefully

[PizzaPower]

well thats good, what happened to it?

[TheCanadiandrome]

well thats good, what happened to it?

it was f'd up during the one of the recent firmware updates. the one that happened after the PSN Hacking. it tried to update but kept crappin out at 30% install. so i called Sony Tech Support and the chick on the line tried to walk me through a manual boot into safe-mode and when that didn't work, she told be to send it in. So basically i get told i've got to shell out nearly $160 to have it fixed, as a result of a mistake by Sony. it's their fault the machine got f'd up in the first place.

[PizzaPower]

thats ******** they should fix it. you had insurance on it?

[Peanut]

You shouldn't need insurance for their bullsh*t. This is exactly what I mean when it comes to Sony and Nintendo being assholes about fixing consoles and typically it's not actually the hardware, but their software updates they f*ck everything up. 360's pre S were awful pieces of sh*t, but at least Microsoft owned up and fixed them when it was their problem.

[PizzaPower]

yea thats true. ahhh i miss the days of super nes.

[The Stryker]

.....what did any of that have to do with the Snes?

[Jester]

.....what did any of that have to do with the Snes?
Back in the good ole' days of no firmware updates? I dunna. I still love my still fairly functional SNES.

[PizzaPower]

yup no updates no software, no ring of dealth or line of death, the good ole days.

[Peanut]

If the SNES didn't have software, it would kinda have been useless...

[PizzaPower]

i know the super nes was software im not saying that im saying no updates or any of the stuff that iswith today systems, you know?

[TheCanadiandrome]

You shouldn't need insurance for their bullsh*t. This is exactly what I mean when it comes to Sony and Nintendo being assholes about fixing consoles and typically it's not actually the hardware, but their software updates they f*ck everything up. 360's pre S were awful pieces of sh*t, but at least Microsoft owned up and fixed them when it was their problem.

this is true. i sent a letter to Sony Computer Entertainment to see about some compinsation for their stupidity so we'll see what if anything comes from it

thats ******** they should fix it. you had insurance on it?

my warranty was way done. i bought the system in 2008

[PizzaPower]

damn man im sorry about that. crazy just crazy.

[TheCanadiandrome]

damn man im sorry about that. crazy just crazy.
yup, should know in awhiles time what the score is. they already charged my credit card so it must be fixed

[PizzaPower]

haha it better be.

[TheCanadiandrome]

haha it better be.

it's fixed and back with me and works good. so if anyone wants to add me on PSN go for it

[Volvagia]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/08/25/uncharted-3-drakes-deception-collectors-edition-unboxed/

Nolan North is awesome :tlol:

I really can't wait to get this game.

[deadpoolRKO]

So i read in playstation magazine that the PS Vita will have cross game chat , and it turns out the ps3 will never have it. apparently it doesn't have enough RAM.


that's awesome for the vita but ****** news for ps3 since people have been basically begging for it for years

[TheCanadiandrome]

i plan on getting a Vita regardless. nice feature but really not a big selling point for me

[Shreddhead]

i agree, i never really understood why everyone wanted cross chat. its a feature that i would never use and i have absolutely no problem using my ps3 without it

[Peanut]

i agree, i never really understood why everyone wanted cross chat. its a feature that i would never use and i have absolutely no problem using my ps3 without it

Get friends, then you'd see the issue.

[TheCanadiandrome]

lol! very subtle as always

[Shreddhead]

Get friends, then you'd see the issue.

but why would you want to talk to them when youre not playing a game with them? i mean ive got a phone...

[AquaParade]

I can easily see why cross-chat wouldn't mean **** to a lot of people, but hearing that ps3 won't ever be getting it is seriously a downer.

Next to Halo and Gears horde mode, Cross-game chat is what I miss most about my 360. Playing games while chatting to friends is great! My buddy and I practically went through all of Bioshock with cross-chat. Sure, it might have killed some of the immersion, but it was worth it.

[Brodie]

I always talk to my friends while playing other ****. I play a lot of single player games, and enjoy talking to them while doing so.

[deadpoolRKO]

I always talk to my friends while playing other ****. I play a lot of single player games, and enjoy talking to them while doing so.

this


and on some games like socom when my team is full of people singing or talking about something completely irrelevant it'd be nice to be able to just talk with 3-4 of my friends and strategize instead of having to wait 5 minutes to get 10 seconds of mic time

[Peanut]

but why would you want to talk to them when youre not playing a game with them? i mean ive got a phone...

That's just stupid. You're going to get on the phone to talk to more than one person for hours at a time? Party chat is amazing, especially when trying to figure out what everyone would like to play, or just conversing about sh*t in general. You also don't have to worry about the limited chat system a lot of games have, or when someone gets disconnected from a game. There's isn't any confusion or message tag going on, the person will just go "I got dropped, yo!" and then you sort it out. The whole thing really is a must-have for people who socialize with friends while playing games, together or otherwise.

I mean, we've played f*cking PS3 games while using the 360 party chat, so that says a lot.

[deadpoolRKO]

" I think it's ludicrous that a system such as the PS3 can run games that look like Uncharted and play as massively as MAG, yet it can't let two people talk to each other while playing them. Then again, it's Sony, the company that develops amazing technology and then lets chimpanzees glue it all together. "

[TheCanadiandrome]

so is anyone else getting a PS Vita this Wednesday or on the 22nd?

[Peanut]

I'll probably end up getting one. I was on the fence, but I really do want Katamari and now that I've seen that Tenchu-esque game Spike (makers of Way of the Samurai, not the TV station) put together I really want to play that as well.

Also, I always buy new game stuff so I may as well not even pretend I won't do it, because I know I will.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Also, I always buy new game stuff so I may as well not even pretend I won't do it, because I know I will.

Lol I'll admit the same

[Peanut]

I get the impression you don't buy or playing anything, to be honest.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I do buy, i just don't play that often as much as I should? Got some games I haven't played yet

[Archon_Turtle]

So anyone going to be a vita early adopter? I'm totally on the fence about it. I like what I've seen performance wise, and there are a couple launch titles I want to play... But there's all sorts of bug and failure complaints coming out of Japan... So I'm a little weary.

[Peanut]

I was on the fence, then jumped off when I heard about the ridiculous memory card prices. I'll probably end up getting it within the next month, but I won't be getting it day one.

[TheCanadiandrome]

So anyone going to be a vita early adopter?

yeah getting my First Edition bundle Wednesday

[Archon_Turtle]

yeah getting my First Edition bundle Wednesday

let us know if you have issues with locking up. It's been widely reported that the first wave Japan release was crashtastic.

[TheCanadiandrome]

let us know if you have issues with locking up. It's been widely reported that the first wave Japan release was crashtastic.
oh man! not cool! hopefully won't happen

[deadpoolRKO]

I got my vita. The screen is soo vibrant. Marvel vs Capcom looks phenomonal.


I got mod nation road trip & Dungeon Hunter Alliance as well.

Everything is running smoothly and so far this system has amazing potential & i can't put it down

[Peanut]

The screen really is gorgeous. I think that's the thing making me want it the most. I've heard it feels like it can scratch pretty easily, what are your feelings on that?

[TheCanadiandrome]

The screen really is gorgeous. I think that's the thing making me want it the most. I've heard it feels like it can scratch pretty easily, what are your feelings on that?
good thing i'm investing in a screen protector