Sonic the Hedgehog Live-Action/CGI Movie Targeting 2020 Release Date

[Andrew NDB]

Hah, that looks way better. And the original design didn't even bother me.

[ranger_scout]

That trailer obviously looks much better than the one we previously saw. The design is so much more recognizable and most of the time it seemed like a fun popcorn flick for video game lovers. Carrey still seems like he is reprising his role as Riddler from Batman Forever and instead of trying to bring Robotnick to life even though both characters are over-the-top.

[Ninjinister]

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[TigerClaw]

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Funny seeing the TMNT Movie Twitter tweeting the new Sonic Movie Trailer. Makes you wonder if Paramount is thinking twice when they redesign the Turtles for the Movie Reboot they have planned.

[AquaParade]

I've always loved Sonic. Sure, it's mostly nostalgia at this point, but I'm actually a little surprised by how little I am interested in this. I'll probably rent it though!

I have no expectations, especially after they went back and redesigned Sonic. They made an improvement, but it hints towards a total lack of direction or focus.

[IMJ]

Definitely a vast improvement. It still might not be a good movie but......the fact that someone went out of their way to appeal to the fans is actually an improvement. The fact that they listened and not say that the fans are wrong, the fact that they showed a care, this is something I will support. And I'll be honest while the movie may not be good, that was a pretty decent trailer. A pretty recognizable Sonic, no Gangsta's Paradise, Jim Carrey hamming it up even more......I'm sold.

You pretty much spoke my thoughts as well here.
Although I still can't understand putting Sonic on "regular Earth" when it very clearly has never worked for a franchise where the IP's world is so inextricable from the character itself.

[oldmanwinters]

February release dates are typically "garbage dump" scheduling for movies, but I'm very much looking forward to seeing my favorite Blue Blur on screen!

[sdp]

I don't see how people can go from "movie sucks" to "movie is awesome", the only change is Sonic, the whole movie is exactly the same. I personally always thought it looked like a fun movie, the design is cool but I gotta admit I kinda liked the weird realistic hedgehog they had going on with the original design, I wonder since the movie was practically finished if we'll ever see the "real" hedgehog version. #snydercut

That’s 1995 Jim Carrey alright. Amazing how he can still play his old self from like 25 years ago now.

He totally feels like 90s Jim Carey and it works

[Leo656]

Yeah, I watched the trailer on mute because I already know from before that the humor isn't to my taste. I especially hate Jim Carrey more than just about any actor who's ever been in the business. But I was curious to see the new design after all the hullabaloo, and I must say, it's about one thousand percent better. So, much credit to them for that.

.... ALTHOUGH, as my old boss used to say, "Yeah, great job, 'hero', thanks for doing exactly what you're supposed to do." :lol: One still has to wonder how things would have gone - and how much money and aggravation they'd have saved - if they'd started with this design in the first place instead of "experimenting" with that hideous original one.

Kinda like Ang Lee's "Hulk" just might have done better if only the main character didn't look like a giant Nerf ball. We'll never know now, but it's a distinct possibility. In that case, the SFX guys knew it looked terrible but Lee kept overruling their complaints, and we all saw how that turned out. So at least in this case whoever made the original mistake was willing to swallow their pride and fix things.

Still not interested in seeing it but at LEAST the main character actually looks fairly accurate, now. I'm sure that will be more than enough to make most people happy. Good.

[Wildcat]

Green Hill is beautiful. I seriously wish I could live there. His home planet might only briefly appear but it’s cool they included it.

I already mentioned I think the redesign is perfect but I still have soft spot for the first design. I hope the home release has more footage of it.

That aside this trailer is fantastic. The humor is cute and there seems to be more Sonic vs Robotnik than the previous leaks suggested.

[Leo656]

To be fair, that first trailer several months ago was just entirely comprised of poor choices. They did not lead with their strongest material at all. But to their credit, it does appear that they've learned from their previous mistakes - which were many - and are trying hard to make the most of this "do-over." Some people claim it sets a very dangerous precedent about how much control creators will have to concede in the future thanks to "fanboy whining", and I can totally understand that, but at the same time, what they're showing now is at least far more recognizable as "Sonic". It's closer to what it should have been like in the first place - even on mute, the trailer altogether showed a lot more of what I'd expect from a Sonic movie than the first one did - and whatever it took to get there, I'm fine with.

It's just a little irritating because they still lost 2/3s of a year and a sh*tload of money, just to end up where they should have started in the first place. You can't help but wonder what kind of drooling slapnuts approved each of the decisions that led them to believe the original look and trailer was a good idea to begin with. But hey, whatever got them to a better place, I suppose.

[Wildcat]

Well it’s being said the artists originally wanted a traditional design.
https://screenrant.com/sonic-hedgehog-movie-redesign-original-design-artists/

Don’t know how much the delay affected the budget but there’s also the merchandise. I’m guessing manufacturers had to be a bit annoyed they needed to start productions over.

2 different versions to collect though. Some first design stuff had to been made.

[Leo656]

How sad for them, having to "crunch" and everything when all the higher-ups had to do was trust their judgment in the first place. So unfair to the workers.

"Wanting a less-traditional design for the non-gaming audience" sounds about right, though. That's the kind of pointless over-thinking Hollywood execs often indulge in. As if anyone in the "non-gaming audience" would even care about the movie in the first place, for crying out loud. Why waste time trying to appeal to people who aren't going to give a sh*t, especially at the expense of people who will? "We're not trying to entice fans; we're trying to entice people who are NOT fans. If the fans like it, fine, but we really don't care about that so much." :roll: Makes no sense to ME, but it's par for the course in these stupid creative meetings.

I mean, it's their money, not mine. It's just... you have to be remarkably stupid to make some of these decisions. It's not too dissimilar to the BayTurtles fiasco, so I guess it's just goin' around.

[Papenbrook]

Eh, I still think that Sonic looks a bit weird with the separated eyes.

Schwartz does sound like a great Sonic, though! :D

[Andrew NDB]

Eh, I still think that Sonic looks a bit weird with the separated eyes.

That's like the one thing they kept from the original design in the movie, and it makes sense. Sonic having one big eye cornea doesn't make any sense, certainly not in a live action movie.

[ZariusTwo]

Funny seeing the TMNT Movie Twitter tweeting the new Sonic Movie Trailer. Makes you wonder if Paramount is thinking twice when they redesign the Turtles for the Movie Reboot they have planned.

Watch them pick Fred Wolf designs and Andrew to pass out:P

[Andrew NDB]

Watch them pick Fred Wolf designs and Andrew to pass out:P

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. About the Fred Wolf designs (they've hardly not been transparent in oogling Fred Wolf from the start), not me passing out. I didn't even watch the last one.

[oldmanwinters]

That's like the one thing they kept from the original design in the movie, and it makes sense. Sonic having one big eye cornea doesn't make any sense, certainly not in a live action movie.

Funny that every cartoon character who was originally drawn with a uni-eyeball has had to have that style interpreted for the purpose of animation adaptation.

I guess Mickey Mouse was the first when he went from black and white to color and then the Smurfs when they received the CGI animation treatment:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/why-sonic-has-one-giant-eye.860185/

[Wildcat]

Ok speculation time. The Green Hill zone scene in the trailer might be at the end of the movie.

I’ve brought it up before but he’s wearing his shoes (redesigned but still Pumas) before teleporting through the ring. Those shoes were clearly acquired on earth because we saw all the others he ruined.

Also it was said he had to leave his planet as a baby which he’s obviously not in this scene and before teleporting he seems to stop and look up at something.

The full blown Dr. Robotnik look we saw is also probably at the end or after the credits but the Green Hill Zone part specifically might have him returning to earth a second time either to visit Tom or escape again since he says people on his planet are after his power.

[Papenbrook]

Apparently, they released a new poster.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJKlA_RVAAEo91x?format=jpg&name=900x900 (https://mobile.twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1194208050933977090)




Isn't Robotnik's mustache supposed to be brown? :ohwell:

[TigerClaw]

Apparently, they released a new poster.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJKlA_RVAAEo91x?format=jpg&name=900x900 (https://mobile.twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1194208050933977090)




Isn't Robotnik's mustache supposed to be brown? :ohwell:
Here's another poster for Japan.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJKzAWjXsAAQvOO?format=jpg&name=small

Another for Australia

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJK_2M0WoAECgfW?format=jpg&name=small

And a motion poster.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1194619909621370880

[Shark_Blade]

They’re marvellous.

[Papenbrook]

Anyway, that trailer wasn't particularly great. I still think that this'll bomb.

Like, right out of the gate, I can see it earning EXACTLY zero dollars.

***Quote me on that!***

[Turo602]

Anyway, that trailer wasn't particularly great. I still think that this'll bomb.

Like, right out of the gate, I can see it earning EXACTLY zero dollars.

***Quote me on that!***

If trash like BayTurtles and Venom could find success, this will too. At the very least we can hope they jump the gun and make a sequel that bombs so they can start over and do it right from the beginning.

[Papenbrook]

Apparently,Sonic's redesign had only cost Paramount around $5-MILLION. ( "https://www.indiewire.com/2019/11/sonic-redesign-cost-paramount-five-million-1202190493/")

Also, it looks like Tyson Hesse DID work on Sonic's redesign. (https://mobile.twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1194331183351357440)

[oldmanwinters]

Also, it looks like Tyson Hesse DID work on Sonic's redesign. (https://mobile.twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1194331183351357440)

Say what you will about poor Sega's many mistakes, but they do seem to recognize the top talent to call in for emergencies.

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[Papenbrook]

On a similar note, why did they feel the need to give Sonic nostrils?

They look ... extremely weird on him.

[sdp]

On a similar note, why did they feel the need to give Sonic nostrils?

They look ... extremely weird on him.
How else s he going to breathe?

[Papenbrook]

Huh. I guess you have a point there. The nostrils still look awfully weird, though.

On another note, I thought that the scriptwriters/storywriters clarify that there would be no fart jokes. So, why did they include that armpit scene?

It doesn't make any sense. :(

Update: So, do y'all remember the trailer that was released way back in April?



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKQMAMWWoAEll0X?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKQqEu-W4AIrKrc?format=jpg&name=small (https://mobile.twitter.com/sienduk/status/1199096605711970304)

Yeah ...

[Papenbrook]

So, surprise surprise.

Paramount themselves were the one's that pushed for Sonic's original redesign. (https://mobile.twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1199877441243758593) ( They thought everyone would just accept it. :roll: )

Paramount, ... just ... don't change, man.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

So, surprise surprise.

Paramount themselves were the one's that pushed for Sonic's original redesign. (https://mobile.twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1199877441243758593) ( They thought everyone would just accept it. :roll: )

Paramount, ... just ... don't change, man.

Millions of dollars spent a making a beautiful disaster of a movie into a generic run of the mill movie :lol:

I don't think the redesign will help it finacially, despite the mostly positive reception by fans.

Stop being contrarian and apologising for dogs*it. It bores us.

Well, I don't know about being Contrarian, but sometimes, there are pieces of Dogshit in life which need to be appreciated because of how charmingly filthy they are.

Take The Room for example.

[TommyT]

So, surprise surprise.

Paramount themselves were the one's that pushed for Sonic's original redesign. (https://mobile.twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1199877441243758593) ( They thought everyone would just accept it. :roll: )

Paramount, ... just ... don't change, man.

Because that way, they can sell you the NEW AND IMPROVED Sonic.

[Papenbrook]

WHY?!

What forced them to rethink their plan?! What compelled them to design Sonic like that in the first place?! What made them use the Bayformers/Bayturtles as a base for the movie as a whole?!

WHAT?!

[Leo656]

My thoughts after every PapenKraken post in this thread:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTHWQEJLSqN447bSJlFmpiMt7vYRaZ OmZGIoKPBnzEBuR-ytEvA

[TigerClaw]

Apparently Paramount forced some sites to remove the articles which had the interview with one of the animators talking about the process they went through with the redesign. and how Paramount initially wanted to go with the old design even if the fans wouldn't like it.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1200235848190566400
https://twitter.com/tssznews/status/1200141815975952386

There are legal issues. Because the person who was interviewed wasn't supposed to talk about this in public.

[Shark_Blade]

Well it's public now, too late lol.

[Papenbrook]

In hindsight, all it does is make them look worse.

[TommyT]

Can we get a summary of the events of the last little while?

any links to the forbidden interview?

[Papenbrook]

Can we get a summary of the events of the last little while?

any links to the forbidden interview?


No luck. It's all been taken down, unfortunately. :(

[TigerClaw]

Can we get a summary of the events of the last little while?

any links to the forbidden interview?
You can read it here.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/11/sonic_movie_animator_talks_through_the_process_of_ the_blue_blurs_redesign

[Shark_Blade]

I mean Paramount did approve the first design but now they wanna backtrack when obvious statements like this came out because it made themselves look bad?:

Amazingly, it turns out that Paramount was "confident" on the original design; Schneider compared the film's live-action look to movies like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Transformers, where each case went ahead despite a number of fans being displeased with character designs.

The clownery is "paramount" lol. Bunch of out of touch boomers :tlol:

https://i.imgur.com/5E4WXb8.jpg

[Wildcat]

I read it yesterday. The original article that had to be translated.

It just sounds like they thought people would come around after getting used to it and that first reveal wore off. The backlash was just so big all at once.

I never hated the Bay TMNT design but they’re not my favorite. They are kinda human-ish to begin with anyway. I just thought the actual movies were poor.

The Transformers on the other hand, regardless of the movies, the designs are awesome but it’s also much easier to adapt robots.

Don’t see why they’d remove articles. They didn’t say anything bad about anyone. Just they wanted him to blend in more with the real world. They approved the redesign so they obviously felt it was a mistake.

[Papenbrook]

I hope that whoever approved of Sonic's previous redesign gets punished via demotion.

[Papenbrook]

Important Update: Moving Picture Company, who have just likely finished the Sonic Movie, have just closed down its Vancouver studio. (https://www.cartoonbrew.com/business/breaking-mpc-studio-behind-the-lion-king-shuts-down-vancouver-studio-183671.html)

It's just, ... wow.

[DarkFell]

And coming from the same article..

Vfx studios often have seasonal reductions, so it is not clear if the staff reductions at other locations are permanent or just temporary reductions until the studio has more work in its pipeline.

Perhaps the MPC is allowing the people to rest up some (especially since they were cranking out 17+ hours nearly every week to re-tweak Sonic's appearance), or as quoted above, that the projects for the studio are finished for the year.

MCP could reopen its doors sometime next year.

[Papenbrook]

Y'all remember the guy that said that Paramount was responsible for the original design of Sonic?

Well, that guy ( allegedly ) got fired and blacklisted from Paramount. (https://mobile.twitter.com/SonicStageArg/status/1204985990194094080)

Well, ... holy ...

[Wildcat]

I didn’t read through Reddit but there’s no confirmation that guy was blacklisted or lost his job over that article/interview. Even one of the Twitter posts asks for a source.

What was the other “infamous” movie they worked on? Says 2.

It’s not really about Sonic. They worked other high profile movies. Just says the studio closed for better locations like tax reasons.

[Papenbrook]

I didn’t read through Reddit but there’s no confirmation that guy was blacklisted or lost his job over that article/interview. Even one of the Twitter posts asks for a source.

What was the other “infamous” movie they worked on? Says 2.

It’s not really about Sonic. They worked other high profile movies. Just says the studio closed for better locations like tax reasons.


We can infer that he did.

That other movie was probably The Lion King.

It's specifically about the Sonic film.

[Leo656]

Saxon = joke account

[Mayhem]

That other movie was probably The Lion King.
Probably, the studio definitely worked on it.

[Papenbrook]

Welp, the Sonic The Hedgehog Channel will release a brand-new, Christmas-themed, animation short later today (https://mobile.twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1204826813899272192). In addition, more Sonic Movie news will also potentially be revealed at The Game Awards tonight. ( "https://mobile.twitter.com/SSF1991/status/1203823110320984070")


Man, what a day for all of this to finally go mainstream.

And y'all know what the worst part is?

Even if the movie doesn't see a cent at the box office, Paramount will just move on to their next IP, and ignore future fan feedback for future IPs. They won't compensate their workers, and will likely leave the animators at the now defunct MPC-Vancouver joyless and jobless. They will probably not get compensated for their work. It will be for NOTHING.

I feel so sorry for all the people ( except for the executives/producers ) that worked on this godforsaken film. I truly do hope that all of the executives/producers at Paramount, Moving Picture Company, AND Sega get their comeuppance someday.

Man, now I feel bad for complaining about the design in the first place.

[Coola Yagami]

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Man, now I feel bad for complaining about the design in the first place.

Naw, it was still a horrible design and you should never excuse crap. Whoever was lead designer and whoever first approved it should never work on a CGI film ever again.

[Papenbrook]

Probably, the studio definitely worked on it.


Well, we know that the studio had worked on other films besides Sonic's. (https://www.cartoonbrew.com/business/breaking-mpc-studio-behind-the-lion-king-shuts-down-vancouver-studio-183671.html)

Their other projects had included Cats, Detective Pikachu, and and the heavily-reviled Dark Phoenix. They also did the VFX on the Life of Pi, which had another studio, Rhythm & Hues, shutting its doors (https://www.cartoonbrew.com/business/breaking-rhythm-hues-will-file-for-bankruptcy-today-77816.html).

And Jeff Fowler had promised that the team(s) involved wouldn't experience any crunch. (https://mobile.twitter.com/fowltown/status/1131937685700980736)

Damn, why did he lie? Isn't he a VFX artist, too? Does he feel any sympathy/empathy for the recently fired workers? Hell, did he even know of this recently revealed revelation?!

I know that its only that one particular branch of MPC, but it still doesn't excuse any of their ( MPC's or Paramount's ) business practices. Paramount/Sega/Jeff Fowler ( or whoever was in charge, really ) should had made sure that the workers were in a stable and safe workplace environment. They should had looked out for the workers, made sure they had gotten proper care/assistance for their workings, and payed them enough for their work. They also should had set reasonable breaks for them, and had the studio pay overtime if needed.

Anyway, Yuji Naka (https://mobile.twitter.com/nakayuji/status/1205358040565706754), one of Sonic's creator, and Patrick Casey (https://mobile.twitter.com/Pat_Kc/status/1205309825258676224), one of the film's writers, decided to weigh their thoughts on this.

Damn, I guess this is getting serious.


If done correctly this could be amazing.

Too bad it wasn't.

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Also, merchandise is in the works. (https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/12/11/sega-and-paramount-announce-official-sonic-movie-merchandise)

[Papenbrook]

For anyone who still cares about this movie, the sound mixing is done.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELngMBHUYAAEZqd?format=jpg&name=large ("https://mobile.twitter.com/fowltown/status/1205240875833413633?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)





Yay.

[Papenbrook]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMMqtvGU8AE_gSt?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/skyblue_0810/status/1207856201674833920)

Japanese theaters are giving away Baby Sonic keychains.

Also, a lizard warrior supposedly appears in the movie. (https://mobile.twitter.com/sonicboom13561/status/1204283637346242562)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELZ5k1VX0AAumGK?format=jpg&name=large

[Shark_Blade]

Cant wait for the merchs.

[Coola Yagami]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMMqtvGU8AE_gSt?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/skyblue_0810/status/1207856201674833920)

Japanese theaters are giving away Baby Sonic keychains.

Also, a lizard warrior supposedly appears in the movie. (https://mobile.twitter.com/sonicboom13561/status/1204283637346242562)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELZ5k1VX0AAumGK?format=jpg&name=large



Can't wait for the movie.

[TigerClaw]

This 20 second TV Spot shows how Sonic got his red shoes.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1209128117622718469

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMew1gqXsAI3M3o?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMew1gqXYAECYGz?format=jpg&name=small

[TigerClaw]

Baby Sonic has been revealed in a new Spot from Japan.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMv7W55WwAImaDs?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMv6T4-WwAAeh58?format=jpg&name=medium

[Wildcat]

Cute but those characters behind him are moving...and whose he giving the flower to?

Plus looks like a reptile which matches the leak.

https://i.postimg.cc/HW5JXqJb/442-CB3-E6-5-C2-A-497-D-B244-9-B59-D8-CDF727.jpg

[drgon78]

That is adorable but I am also curious of who(or what) he is giving that flower to as well. Makes me wonder if we will ever see Sonic's parent(s) or was he an orphan at this point.

[AquaParade]

I'm thinking they whipped this number up after seeing the reaction to Baby Yoda.

Def cute though. Wonder if they should have gone with this design from the start in the interest of profit.

[TigerClaw]

Check out the attention to details in this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMzMSfjWsAA8Dni?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMzMSe3WsAAl6ow?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMzMSe5XkAAOaGz?format=jpg&name=small

[Wildcat]

Wow I didn’t even remember the face appeared in that stage. So that means Labyrinth zone exists on the island just like in the games.

I still wonder if it’s related to a character in the movie. Like if that was the inspiration for the villain or some other character.

I’m confused about the shoes though since he’s wearing the same ones as a baby in a smaller size.

I’m sure there’s an explanation but I’m thinking it might be something like a parallel dimension thing. They exist in both worlds but have different names.

[Papenbrook]

Wow, the artists/animators placed their best efforts for this movie.

Too bad, as it will likely bomb anyways. Sad.

[Galactus]

Very good South Island/Green Hill Zone recreation.

I've not been following the development of this movie but I'm kinda surprised to see that it's following the 90s international Sonic story where it's Robotnik and not Eggman and it's set on Moebius and not a version of Earth. Has anyone involved said why?

I know that for "our"generation that's what Sonic is but they've been using the Japanese story for nearly two decades now and since the movie is primarily set on Earth anyway I would have expected the movie to follow that too.

[Wildcat]

The Japanese story? It’s the same in both countries. I mean the games carry the same story everywhere.

Sonic Adventure started the trend of taking place on earth but I think it’s a given him and his friends are from another planet even though they never explain it.

Classic Sonic is treated as an alternate universe. Although I prefer to think of it as all the same and “Modern Sonic” is just older along with everyone else.

Edit: Ok there’s a floating island in SA but that could not have come from another planet. It’s clearly a location on earth.

I’ve read in the comics that Mobius is actually earth in the future. Sonic and everyone’s origin are alien related. I have not read the entire backstory but I really like this idea.

Still the games should have explained where they’re from in SA. It’s weird because at the time there had not been a major Sonic game for awhile. They just stuck it on earth.

They didn’t reintroduce Classic Sonic til Generations so that seems like a recent decision. It’s possible they thought about it during the Dreamcast days but it’s confusing.

Maybe the chaos emeralds landed here, creating a new earth bound floating island and Sonic and company followed shortly after...either way works I guess. I know the comics don’t really influence the games. I’m just saying we can imagine it however we want.

Edit 2: I forgot SA2 does give earth as the origin but Sonic X has them come from another planet. It’s just different for each era/continuity.

In the context of a movie it was best to be from another planet or else it’d require a big explanation for anthropomorphic beings coexisting with humans. It’s simpler.

[Galactus]

I'm not the biggest follower of Sonic The Hedgehog but I'm fairly certain that the Japanese version of the original Sonic game was that it was set on Earth and that the anthropomorphic animals and lands we see in the game are mystical in nature.

When they brought the game to the rest of the world Sega of America came up with their own story that the entire thing was set on a world called Mobius and that Dr. Ovi Kintobor experiments with then-brown prickly Sonic went awry turning him into the super fast hero in the game and drove Kintobor evil to become Robotnik.

Since the in-game Sonic didn't really future much in the way of a narrative the discrepancy didn't matter. It only started to mater in the 3D games when we saw more realistic environments and actual humans used. By Adventure 2 they just threw their hands up and said they'd just follow the Japanese lore.

I know the Archie comic said that Mobius is Earth in the future to square the circle and I'm not complaining about the movie following the American version. It's the one I'll think of first, in my mind he'll always be Robotnik and not Eggman (strangely I've accepted Princess Peach though) but whole generations have grown up with the Japanese version as the main canon that I find it puzzling the movie has gone with the now defunct US version of the story.

[Wildcat]

Ya I’ve read even for the original games the setting was considered earth just was not pointed out and Mobius was an American thing.

If you use the Mobius idea it still leaves the question of how and why Robotnik is seemingly the only human around.

I’m good either way but for the movie I still think it was best to make him an alien. It’s not really surprising. The American origin might be more popular.

Even Sonic himself was designed based on western culture which I find kinda funny. You’d think appealing to the Japanese market would come first.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I like how everything in Sonic's world looks amazing, and Sonic's redesign is decent. I laughed at most of the jokes in the trailer, so I'm really looking forward to this Flick. I'll definitely be picking a ticket up opening weekend.

[Papenbrook]

They are probably using Iizuka-san's "two worlds" origin for this film.

It's still incomprehensible.

[Coola Yagami]

The Mobius thing always made more sense to me. Even in Sonic X, from the episodes I've seen, it seemed the only animal-people were Sonic and his crew, and regular people still had to adjust to now living alongside them.

Making the Sonic series take place in Earth, we have to take for granted that all these odd creatures co-exist with normal humans. Robotnik himself, even though he is human, he still looks very cartoonish and odd alongside regular humans, almost like if you put Homer Simpson in the middle of more realistic drawn show while still keeping his original cartoonish design. Robotnik just looks out of place compared to normal humans too.

[Papenbrook]

There's a brand new Sonic poster that appeared ... in Spain.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENX8PGkXkAECiKf?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1213153016225959936)

[TigerClaw]

New Movie Poster
https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1214190707147100160

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmsAvaUUAAnhy5?format=jpg&name=small

[Coola Yagami]

New Movie Poster
https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1214190707147100160

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmsAvaUUAAnhy5?format=jpg&name=small

The more I see, the more I can't wait to see this.

[Leo656]

It will be pretty interesting to see if this thing really can do a full 180 from the general consensus of, "Who booked this sh*t?" into most people being generally excited about it, based solely on the redesign.

I mean, originally most people were against the entire project on principle, and the fact Sonic was hideous was just a "bonus". Now that Sonic looks a lot better, people seem genuinely looking forward to it. All the "video game movies are always terrible" and "Nobody cares about Sonic anymore" arguments have gotten very, very quiet, even though they're still perfectly valid talking points. The entire conversation now is only about, "He looks a lot better, so perhaps the movie will be good after all."

It's interesting. Is everything REALLY as simple as the visuals? I kind of suspect so.

[Wildcat]

In general, regardless of being based on a video game, people who are genuinely into whatever it is are naturally going to get enjoyment out it.

That’s why I hate when people say...so-and-so is just another movie with “name”. Well those totally invested in that particular thing don’t view it as just another movie.

I understand why they say it but then anything could be described that way. What makes one more so than the other?

Anyway I realized something. Other franchises have gone to 3D animation. It’s said the live action Tom and Jerry is gonna be done in a different, new way. Whatever that means. Then the whole redesign situation...I’m extremely grateful live action Sonic made it.

As silly as it may sound this has always been my most wanted movie.

I remember it mentioned from time to time when it was “in the works”. I was happy but knew it was still a ways off so I was able to put it aside. But as it drew closer and actually went into production my excitement hit max.

Needless to say the delay was a frustrating time period :lol: but it turned out for the best.

[Coola Yagami]

It will be pretty interesting to see if this thing really can do a full 180 from the general consensus of, "Who booked this sh*t?" into most people being generally excited about it, based solely on the redesign.

I mean, originally most people were against the entire project on principle, and the fact Sonic was hideous was just a "bonus". Now that Sonic looks a lot better, people seem genuinely looking forward to it. All the "video game movies are always terrible" and "Nobody cares about Sonic anymore" arguments have gotten very, very quiet, even though they're still perfectly valid talking points. The entire conversation now is only about, "He looks a lot better, so perhaps the movie will be good after all."

It's interesting. Is everything REALLY as simple as the visuals? I kind of suspect so.


Well... has any failed video game movie actually LOOKED good?

[Leo656]

I know very little of either Ratchet & Clank or Warcraft, but they both looked alright to me. I didn't end up seeing them, though. But going strictly by the visuals as presented in the trailers, they looked just fine.

I'm not surprised they failed, though; I mean R&C was at least ten years too late, and if you don't play Warcraft you don't care about it and aren't gonna see a movie about it. But I don't think they failed because their visuals were underwhelming. They looked fine, it's just that nobody in the grand scheme of things actually gives a sh*t about either property.

[TigerClaw]

A Tweet from Paramount Spain mentions a Character name LongClaw. This is the Character rumored to be the Owl that takes care of Baby Sonic. a couple of months ago there was a leaked image of a Storyboard for the Sonic Movie. It featured Sonic with an Owl character.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1214874759625924608

https://i.redd.it/0gytl1htfmy21.png

The tweet pretty much confirms this rumored character.

[Wildcat]

So we have Longclaw, the Echidnas (or whoever’s in the tree) and a lizard warrior said to be after Sonic’s power. He’s shaping up to have a nice backstory. They could have easily just left it a mystery or waited for a sequel.

I know there’s the trilogy rumor but don’t want to get too excited.

[Papenbrook]

I know there’s the trilogy rumor but don’t want to get too excited.


Do you happen to know the source of the rumor?

New Movie Poster
https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1214190707147100160

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmsAvaUUAAnhy5?format=jpg&name=small


Lol. Shouldn't it be 2020?

On a relatable note, some of the storyboards have been posted on Instagram.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENZ3_nOXkAARDRo?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENZ4AebXYAEo0C2?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENZ4BRuW4AAlbVS?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENZ4BR8WsAA8wEV?format=png&name=small (https://mobile.twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1213289097349009419)




Is ... Is this supposed to be Sonic?! :o

[Galactus]

It will be pretty interesting to see if this thing really can do a full 180 from the general consensus of, "Who booked this sh*t?" into most people being generally excited about it, based solely on the redesign.

I mean, originally most people were against the entire project on principle, and the fact Sonic was hideous was just a "bonus". Now that Sonic looks a lot better, people seem genuinely looking forward to it. All the "video game movies are always terrible" and "Nobody cares about Sonic anymore" arguments have gotten very, very quiet, even though they're still perfectly valid talking points. The entire conversation now is only about, "He looks a lot better, so perhaps the movie will be good after all."

It's interesting. Is everything REALLY as simple as the visuals? I kind of suspect so.

I think it's the fact that the people making this very openly and unashamedly confessed to getting it wrong with the design and a huge gesture of fixing it for the fans got this movie a lot of good will. You don't have to know anything about the mechanics of Hollywood to know overhauling the design would not cheap or easy - you just don't see that kind of effort to please the fanbase after a such a huge **** up.

The movie has been compared in many ways to TMNT 2014 in terms of fan response and we've been told people at Paramount used the "success" of that movie in spite of the criticism as an excuse not to change Sonic. The tactic with that movie was to very publicly and unashamedly tell the fans "we hear you...but you're WRONG. These designs are so much better than the old ones. The old designs would never work in live action cgi, once you see it you'll agree and if you don't you're a loser".

It wasn't just the designs but the story, the tone and damn near everything that fans were bothered by was met with this response and when they did make changes to the movie they didn't use the opportunity to change it for the fans but correct all the stuff Bay didn't like about it.

Likewise if you look at the Sonic movie the first trailer made the movie seem just awful in all the same ways and now subsequent trailers are much better. Whether that is because the marketing is focusing on different aspects or (as many suspect) since they are changing the main characters design itself might as well change the story and tone as much as they can. Again you don't see that kind of effort being put in to other movies.

I don't know if the movie will actually be good but because of all of the above I went from "no one wants this" to quietly rooting for it.

[Leo656]

All fair points and well-spoken. For my part, I suspect that the movie itself was and is probably terrible in a lot of ways beyond just the original Sonic design, so it just makes me chuckle that a fresh coat of paint is all it takes to get the masses to go full cheerleader.

Also, yeah, nice gesture in "listening to the fans", but they also crunched the workers to death and then fired them right before Christmas, so as usual, No Good Guys in this situation. If they'd used common sense in the first place, it all could've been avoided. That's the real tragedy of it. They blew a ton of money and wasted a ton of time on a design and a strategy that anyone with two eyes could've told them was a huge mistake. And it cocked-up the whole damn thing.

...Just like BayTurtles. :lol:

[Papenbrook]

All fair points and well-spoken. For my part, I suspect that the movie itself was and is probably terrible in a lot of ways beyond just the original Sonic design, so it just makes me chuckle that a fresh coat of paint is all it takes to get the masses to go full cheerleader.

Also, yeah, nice gesture in "listening to the fans", but they also crunched the workers to death and then fired them right before Christmas, so as usual, No Good Guys in this situation. If they'd used common sense in the first place, it all could've been avoided. That's the real tragedy of it. They blew a ton of money and wasted a ton of time on a design and a strategy that anyone with two eyes could've told them was a huge mistake. And it cocked-up the whole damn thing.

...Just like BayTurtles. :lol:


As much as I disapprove of both this film and Paramount's/Sega's actions surrounding it, I don't think they themselves actually laid any workers off.

The Technicolor executives, who had operated the now-defunct Moving Picture Company VC, were the ones who had decided to dismiss the workers. And, from what I heard from second-hand sources, the company as a whole was rather poorly run. In addition, I have not heard any deaths that occurred on the job/project itself.

Still scummy, either way.

[Leo656]

Well, in my own defense, "______ to death" is merely an expression. :lol:

[Wildcat]

That effects studio was obviously going to get shut down regardless. They were probably just about to do until the delay. Surely they got paid for their work.

The design situation aside Green Hill, nonhuman characters, and whatever else they put in based on his planet/games were clearly part of the story to begin with because we read about it. Those could not have just been added.

If it was just Sonic and nothing else people would complain about that too. Saying they didn’t bother to use anything from his past.

I watched a YouTube video where the guy complained they just made up a new character to stick in the movie...like the games have not been introducing new characters in almost every single installment starting with Tails?

[Papenbrook]

Apparently, the stunt team gave away one of their beanies.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENYSl4fWoAAhsUc?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENYSl4mW4AIBipM?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENYSl4bWkAA39av?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/SlySonic/status/1213177604309733376)




They must want to forget this ... as soon as possible.


EDIT: So, this is interesting.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN2qGWqU4AAkLg4?format=jpg&name=large ("https://mobile.twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1215314505061650433" )





If course, this could just be some form of damage control.

[Galactus]

Sure, we could berate the makers of the Sonic movie for getting it wrong on their first try but I'm realistic enough to know that there are certain properties that are harder to interpret in a live action movie.

Would the classic design just look ridiculous in live action? How much do you change it before it doesn't look like Sonic anymore? Then there's question of the canon? Which (if any) do they use and I can appreciate it all sounds a bit too 'out there' even in the current movie going environment which accepts a talking raccoon as a compelling character.

I'm a lot less forgiving when it comes to TMNT because they had the 1990 movie which was an almost impossibly perfect template to show what works with this property in movie form. Even then I accept there are question marks over certain designs and concepts; people are always going to ask how people will tell the turtles apart, the whole rat knowing ninjutsu are just too examples. So even with turtles I get it...somewhat.

When they knew what they did was thought of as garbage they could have changed things. I appreciate that changing the designs of four (six if you count Splinter and Shredder) would be a tall order but a lot of the story could have easily been fixed. It was never going to be good but it could have been passable as TMNT movie. Those re-shoots could have easily been used to tweak the story to something people wanted instead they changed it to what Michael Bay wanted.

The makers on Sonic The Hedgehog at least listened and understood were they were going wrong whether they've course corrected enough remains to be seen but everyone involved with the 2014 movie just did a huge middle finger to everyone who pointed out they were headed in the wrong direction and when they had a golden opportunity to course correct have us all a huge middle finger again.

[Papenbrook]

The marketing is ... all over the place.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EK1PdWpUcAAq1wm?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonic_MovieJP/status/1201704054675558401)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENA4T8PW4AAj4jN?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/DrakeTheroux/status/1211530225164718080)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3xft4VAAEP90P?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3xfuKUYAAYmMe?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/Some_Normie/status/1215393034608705541)






If they didn't even plan out the whole thing, then Paramount shouldn't have even ATTEMPTED to film this in the first place.

... and, yet they did it ... for the money ...

[TigerClaw]

I got a Sonic Movie shirt from Sega Shop.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENtXoNRWwAEpaO0?format=jpg&name=small

[Coola Yagami]

The marketing is ... all over the place.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3xft4VAAEP90P?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/Some_Normie/status/1215393034608705541)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN3xfuKUYAAYmMe?format=jpg&name=large






If they didn't even plan out the whole thing, then Paramount shouldn't have even ATTEMPTED to film this in the first place.

... and, yet they did it ... for the money ...

Some of those toys are obviously based on the old design and they're too lazy to go back and re-do them.

[Wildcat]

Well it’s not lazy they were probably made way in advance. Manufacturers got designs a long time ago. Those toppers were shown awhile back.

That plushie isn’t the best but there’s gonna be different ones from other companies. The best so far imo is the talking one but the release date is May/August. That’s gotta be an error.

I love the merchandise being be split though. It’s more fun. I really want a first design plushie or figure. A quality one. Accurate to the first trailer.

Let’s not forget the possible toys based on the lizard, owl and tree characters.

[TigerClaw]

The movie is officially rated PG for action, some violence, rude humor and brief mild language.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1217248991219453952

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOSJgX3WsAAyNiB?format=jpg&name=small

[Papenbrook]

Well, at least promotion has started.

In the United States:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EON8BSpVAAErzgL?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/KcKlash_153/status/1216952694696562689)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOTAX54VUAA2lPE?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/bradflick55/status/1217309321739915264)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOM1QWXW4AA5qRr?format=jpg&name=small (https://mobile.twitter.com/_Boulevardier_/status/1216874881448587264)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOTjpn6UwAIPxEV?format=jpg&name=large ("https://mobile.twitter.com/braket/status/1217348112487837696" )

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOSUCXuUwAApWPg?format=jpg&name=large ("https://mobile.twitter.com/LockeTrufeld/status/1217260576058986496)

[Leogeddon]

I personally can't wait to go see it. Sonic definitely looks amazing now.

[Papenbrook]

There are more ads.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOauPRNUYAEsUoE?format=jpg&name=medium (https://mobile.twitter.com/KcKlash_153/status/1217852373617397761)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENSxejIW4AABaFG?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/EliGamesLife/status/1212789363534422016)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMtAqjGXYAAIaIx?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMtAqjSWkAABJ3l?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/SAAC_RUS/status/1210132063413817344)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EL6h_GDWkAAY5cB?format=jpg&name=medium (https://mobile.twitter.com/PlanetaSonic/status/1206579875932508161)


It's also being promoted in Mexico.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOVCeXUX0AQ_EEc?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1217452384999411713)

There's a (near) full-body image of Dr. Robotnik.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EORaK2FWAAI6sED?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/o_Azul35/status/1217197082550919168)

[TigerClaw]

New Motion Posters.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7ZKSTwHRqm/

[AquaParade]

Not really sure what happened to my love of Sonic or if I just have no faith in this film, but I have very little desire to see it. Sonic was always sort of a main-stay for me growing up, between the games, animations, figures, and even comics.

This movie should really stem my curiosity, but it doesn't. Still, I am looking forward to checking it out when it is available to rent.

[Andrew NDB]

I always visually liked Sonic, but the games were kind of boring to me. It's hard to "manage" Sonic when he's going really fast and it's just a lot of that, and jumping at the right moments.

[IndigoErth]

Ran across part of a tv trailer... That's just too bizarre for me. And can't get over one line (that I now can't even recall) that I was pretty sure has also been said in 'Rise,' in exactly the same way as 'Rise' Leo said it, leading to a moment of cringy dissonance.

[Papenbrook]

Ran across part of a tv trailer... That's just too bizarre for me. And can't get over one line (that I now can't even recall) that I was pretty sure has also been said in 'Rise,' in exactly the same way as 'Rise' Leo said it, leading to a moment of cringy dissonance.


That is the mighty acting power of Ben Schwartz.

Anyways, I wonder what this movie's Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic score(s) will be.

What fate will await this peculiar film?

[Powder]

I always visually liked Sonic, but the games were kind of boring to me. It's hard to "manage" Sonic when he's going really fast and it's just a lot of that, and jumping at the right moments.

Same here. My enjoyment of the series was limited to cartoon & comic stuff (which isn't saying much, most of it sucks), 'cause I found the games virtually unplayable. There's a lot of aesthetic charm to the Sonic world, it's characters & settings are very fun, but it's not enough to win me over. I'll go see this piece of sh*t movie for my partner's sake, though. Sonic's kinda like their TMNT.

[Wildcat]

I always visually liked Sonic, but the games were kind of boring to me. It's hard to "manage" Sonic when he's going really fast and it's just a lot of that, and jumping at the right moments.Which ones have you played? You don’t have to go fast all the time. I mean you can play them more like a traditional platformer if you want to. Especially the old ones.

In some of the newer ones you do have to go fast but mostly just in speed specific areas which works out ok since they kind of only exist for speeding through.

[oldmanwinters]

I'm not usually who goes to see February movies (it's a studio's dumping ground for most movies it has little confidence in) but I do love the ol' Blue Hedgehog.

Even when he's at his lowest:
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[Leo656]

Which ones have you played? You don’t have to go fast all the time. I mean you can play them more like a traditional platformer if you want to. Especially the old ones.

In some of the newer ones you do have to go fast but mostly just in speed specific areas which works out ok since they kind of only exist for speeding through.

In theory you are correct. BUT. "Go fast" is the entire selling point of the character/series, and in many of the games you are actively punished rather than rewarded for doing so. Sonic Adventure 2 was especially bad with this, "tricking" you into going full-blast through a section only to abruptly whip you off of the track and into space, killing you instantly without warning. Over and over and OVER again, to the point where you don't even trust the game to play fair anymore, and you end up tiptoeing through a level until you have it memorized. That's not fun. Other Sonic games have had that problem, but SA2 was particularly bad with it. So was Sonic 2006, but that game wasn't even finished, so anything NOT broken is what surprises me. Meanwhile, the original 2D Sonic games were more about whipping you into spike strips at full-speed before you could stop or slow down. Either way, cheap and annoying is cheap and annoying.

And yes, you can go through it like a "regular" platformer, but that erases the entire point of it being SONIC, and meanwhile, in most of the games the platforming elements are merely functional when removed from the sense of speed. At the end of the day, the reason the Mario series has reached such lofty status while the Sonic series has floundered is simply because, Mario games are just plain better-designed than Sonic ones. Sonic games DO have plenty of fun sections and are generally beautiful to look at, but most of the time the level design is straight-up junk, full of "anti-player" sections that emphasis trial-and-error memorization over fun gameplay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Sonic fan. I've played most of the "main" games, and I have fun with most of them, but there's undeniably just a ton of "What in the F*CK" moments along the way. What gets me is, some of the Sonic games I enjoy the most don't seem to be appreciated much by others. Like both chapters of Sonic 4, I had no problems with at all, definitely one of the most fun and least-frustrating Sonic games I've ever played. But apparently people hate it; something about the jumping not feeling exactly 1:1 with the Genesis games? Like yeah, I can feel it, but seriously? Just about everything else in 4 is a HUGE improvement over the originals, objectively. I just got done with the main part of Sonic Forces, and again, that was by far one of the most fun and least-frustrating Sonic games I've ever played. The levels were a bit short, but never ONCE did I mutter, "This is bullsh*t", and that's rare for a Sonic game. Looked great, played very well, the jumping in the 2D sections needs to be tighter but it's nothing a person can't adjust to. I had a ton of fun with it, but apparently people don't like it. I'unno.

The peak for me, though, I think, was Sonic Generations. That's the most fun I ever remember having with any Sonic game. Everything was tight, nothing felt cheap or unfair, and both the 2D and 3D parts were executed pretty much perfectly. Whenever people tell me they don't like Sonic, or they haven't enjoyed a Sonic game since the 90s, I tell them to check out Generations.

So yeah, Sonic games CAN be great, but if we're being totally honest, most of them are just "decent", with pretty good graphics, and a few of them just aren't very good at all (although I maintain there's a lot more good than bad, overall). I'm in a minority in that I think they've only started figuring how to do them properly within the last ten years or so. Even the "classic" originals were only Pretty Good, not Great.

The best ones, to me, in no real order are Generations, Colors, 4, and Sonic Adventure. I have not played Mania yet, however. And Adventure isn't for everyone, but I dig it. But I maintain that most people who don't traditionally like the series should still find much to like about the others I mentioned.

[Andrew NDB]

I'll go see this piece of sh*t movie for my partner's sake, though. Sonic's kinda like their TMNT.

That's fair. Luckily I don't have that problem. I'll catch it on Netflix or something if there's good word of mouth. I value this about as much as that Detective Pikachu movie, as in it doesn't irk me in any way and seems like it could have potential, yet absolutely nothing about it draws me to it.

Which ones have you played?

Eh... dabbled with the first three but mostly lost interest and walked away. Then YEARS later, Sonic the Hedgehog on PS3. I actually got pretty far into that one, I think, but sure enough I lost interest. I think it wasn't bad, though. It tried new stuff.

So yeah, Sonic games CAN be great, but if we're being totally honest, most of them are just "decent", with pretty good graphics, and a few of them just aren't very good at all (although I maintain there's a lot more good than bad, overall).

I'm no Sonic expert, from from mostly afar it just seemed like the same game over and over again. Like TMNT II, III, IV, Hyperstone Heist, etc.. At least the Mario games are very different and every one of them (the CORE Mario games) radically changes things. There's still running and jumping and goombas and Bowser in an airship usually, but the mechanics are all different.

[oldmanwinters]

I loved the Genesis games, and one reason why they left such an impact upon me was that the games told a story, one that unfolded slowly but naturally, without resorting to text or voice acting, but simply used in-game graphics to "speak" to the player.

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[Leo656]

Your memory is lying to you, Andrew. Sonic '06 was an unfinished, broken, nearly-unplayable mess, only even tolerable when playing a patched version. I believe the patch was actually done and issued by fans, on account of Sega couldn't be assed to bother.

I got through a decent chunk of it, myself, until I realized that it was bullsh*t and I wasn't actually having fun. Easily one of the worst games I've ever, EVER played. Yeah, there was potential, but... it wasn't even a "game" as much as a really polished demo. Pretty much every game since, even "Unleashed", does everything that game tried to do much, much better (Although Unleashed has its own damn problems).

If you actually enjoyed '06 at all, then you'd probably be pleasantly surprised by more recent Sonic games which were, y'know... actually finished and work properly. That game, though, was by far the closest I've ever come to assaulting one of my games with a power drill. And if I was home alone I just might've. I don't always make good decisions when I'm alone, but dammit, I know how to express what I'm feeling. :lol:

You'd most likely enjoy Colors and Generations. Colors is by far the most "different" in the series; some people don't like it for that very reason, as it actually borrows a few things from Mario and at times feels more like a Mario game than a Sonic game, but it's altogether very good. And Generations simply flawlessly executes everything great about the Sonic series' gameplay while minimizing the annoying or frustrating parts. I totally couldn't put it down and actually got thumb cramps, the first time that's happened to me since like, 1994. So I give it a lot of respect, for that.

[Andrew NDB]

Your memory is lying to you, Andrew. Sonic '06 was an unfinished, broken, nearly-unplayable mess, only even tolerable when playing a patched version.

Maybe that's why I walked away from it. I know I was enjoying it for a while, at least. It was like one of the first two PS3 games I got, before there was even much of a lineup.

[Wildcat]

Leo656, well ya speeding through them is the point but you don’t have to to enjoy them. Plus there are plenty of levels that play like a traditional platformer. That’s something people tend to forget. Not every stage or level was designed to speed through. It was a mix of both.

Ya Forces gets criticized but it is good. My only complaint was it seems a bit too easy in part and feels shorter than usual. I agree about SA2. The later stages anyway.

AndrewNDB, Oh well the originals are the easiest to get into imo. I don’t think Sonic 06 (PS3 or 360) is bad either. Just a few annoying hiccups that happen sometimes. Unless you’re talking about Unleashed.

[Leo656]

Forces was relatively short and a bit on the easy side, sure; if you play each level once you can see the whole thing in about 3-4 hours. BUT, every level is fun to play and there's almost no frustration factor, thus the replay value skyrockets. It is not a perfect game, but it's very "fair". If you die, it's because you did something wrong, not because the game spazzed out and threw you off the rails or had you glitch through the floor or you ran out of momentum while trying to run on water. That stuff is always terrible, and games like '06 and SA2 had all of that in spades, but Generations, Colors and Forces have pretty much eliminated those problems almost entirely. You still have to pay attention, but if you screw up, you immediately know how to not screw up next time. It never feels like, "Well, THAT came out of nowhere and was some straight-up bullsh*t." Unleashed had a big problem with that. Tons of cheap deaths that were unavoidable until you'd played the level a dozen times and memorized every twitch jump. The levels, traps, and enemy layouts in Generations, Colors, and Forces don't feel like they're there to "trick" you, and the branching paths are enticing rather than punishing. I'm fine with a slightly-easy game that's 100% fun, any day.

Forces, so far, was one of the only Sonic games where I could easily blitz through most of a level at full-speed using "Burst" mode and either not die, or only die because I was careless. And I'm like, "WHY was it so hard to finally get to this point?" Yeah, it's easy, but it also gave me the sense of what these games actually allege to present to you in the first place. Playing them at a leisurely pace like a Mario game kind of misses the point of SONIC. So it was nice to actually be encouraged to cut loose as much as possible and not be punished for it.

I might pick up Mania this weekend when I get paid. Kind of in the mood for it, now. And I saw it at the store for like $20.
-------------------------

Andrew: Yeah, I bought it for 360, similar reason, didn't own many games for it yet. And I figured, "Well, c'mon, it can't be THAT bad." I've played several games that were similarly lambasted and enjoyed them, so I figured with '06 it was a simple case of "Sonic sucks since it went 3D, lol" and people just not being fair. BOY, was I wrong! Game's terrible! :lol:

Falling through floors, glitching through walls, randomly losing momentum and falling to death, "homing" jumps that send you the complete f*cking wrong way... before I was even done with the first level, I was like, "...This thing doesn't work, mang." But I did give it a few days before finally rage-quitting. I'm glad I didn't give up on the series - "Unleashed" kinda pushed me to towards the end, though - but man, if '06 is the last Sonic game a person played I can totally understand them being gun-shy.

[Wildcat]

I agree Forces levels are good. I replayed a bunch unlocking avatar items. Some just for fun. (I really hope they continue the avatar characters).

While I’ve enjoyed all of them I think Secret Rings might be my favorite modern Sonic. I guess I’m in the minority but once you get going I think it’s a lot a fun. It’s not too easy or hard and feels exhilarating in a good way.

Sonic Mania is good but I found myself wishing for more levels again. New and/or reimagined ones. There’s so much to chose from the past. It’ll probably get a sequel so maybe that’s ok.

I still have not played Sonic 4. I was hoping it’d get a physical release in a compilation or something. We need a Sonic Gems 2. Lot of stuff they could put on there. Especially more obscure material.

[Leo656]

Yeah, I usually don't download games but I think I saw at one point where they flat-out said Sonic 4 wasn't going to get a disc release, and both chapters were cheap, so I said f*ck it. Very glad I did. Again, some people complain that they're a little on the easy side and that the jumping physics aren't identical to the Genesis games, but they definitely feel like "Sonic 4" in spirit. I'm more apt to replay 4 than the originals, most of the time.

With Forces, I felt compelled to replay just about every level immediately, either for an S-Rank or just to see and do more. I usually don't care as much, or only grudgingly replay the levels I've already beaten, but it never felt like a chore in that one. I'm actually going to jump back into it for a bit in a few minutes, just for fun.

"Secret Rings", huh? That's definitely a unique choice. :lol: It's definitely among the most hated games in the series, but I do agree that a lot of that is overblown. The problem, to me, is having to play the game for a fairly long time before you can do standard, simple, basic Sonic stuff that you can do in most of the other games right out of the box. Having to "unlock" the moves and abilities that are required simply to play the damn game properly felt more like needless padding than anything else. I know for a fact that most people who played it didn't even get far enough into it to have a decent abilities list, because at the start of the game it's so "gimped" that I can't fault anyone for not having the patience for it. For the first few levels, it felt like by far the worst Sonic game I'd ever played. BUT, I agree with you that it actually gets pretty good and is fairly fun, once you do get a few hours into it. Problem is, 99% of players aren't going to suffer through the first few "broken" parts to get that far, and I can't really blame them. It seriously just felt like a cheap way to add several more hours onto what would otherwise be a fairly short and simple game.

The "auto-running" thing is definitely not for everyone, but it does take some of the frustration out of things when all you as the player have to worry about is maneuvering around traps and enemies. I actually had fun with it, but it took a while to get there. The second half of Secret Rings is actually pretty fun. I just don't think getting there should have been such a chore, and it ultimately killed that game's chances of success. Its terrible reputation is almost entirely due to the fact that even most paid critics never played it for more than two hours, by their own admission, and thus didn't actually see that it got a lot better later on. It just should have been more polished all around.

I have not played Black Knight yet, but I've heard that it's pretty lousy. Thank goodness Sonic Colors came out so that Wii owners could have a "proper" Sonic game that was actually good.

[Wildcat]

I think once you get a decent soul gauge/flame bar it starts to even out.

I thought Black Knight was disappointing because the main quest is very short and the levels didn’t feel as exciting as Secret Rings...but I’ve only played it once when it was new. I really want to replay it and try more of the side stages.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Truth is....plenty of fans will try to tell ("educate" as they put it) you what a Sonic game is about. They'll say it's about explorative level design with speed being a reward, think quick and act quick, etc. and I say to that, "you guys are over-analyzing a fun and simple early 90s platformer.":roll: But it's really how you want to play it. Speed is the main selling point for Sonic but outside of that, it's no different from any other platformer.

Sonic 1, you really only go fast in like two stages (Green Hill and Starlight) but other stages like Marble Garden and especially Labyrinth and Scrap Brain you really aren't going as fast, so the game kinda misses the mark of what it was advertised.:tlol: Sonic 2 does a much better job at doing what the first game failed to do. Though I'm gonna be honest, I didn't grow up with this one much and I think there were a lot of cheap deaths in the game so I don't have the nostalgia glasses for it like others do. Sonic 3 & Knuckles (do not play the game separately) is the pinnacle for me beacuse they actually balance speed and platforming really well, plus if Sonic's not up your alley, you can play as Tails or Knuckles and have a smoother experience. Knuckles is a bit harder though but much shorter.

3D games may vary with you though. I enjoyed some of them but I'll admit, I don't have a favorite between them because while many of them have great qualities, I only enjoy bits and pieces of each one of them and none of them really nailed Sonic's transition into 3D. Sonic Adventure, the Sonic and Tails gameplay styles were fine but there were times with the amount of terrain you were given, you often couldn't keep a character in a straight line and might even slip off or glitch through a wall and fall to your death. Not to mention the other gameplay styles were not what you play a Sonic game for. It was a good game but a bit too ambitious, for my liking. Adventure 2 focused on going fast but for later stages it often lead to cheap deaths. Heroes had some good ideas but often slippery controls, unnecessary padding, and playing the same playthrough 4 times just to unlock the final story made it more of a chore. 06 is bad, whether some people like it or not, it's just an unfinished mess. Unleashed had some good ideas with the daytime stages but if anything this game was the best example of going so fast leads to cheap deaths. Colors is a fun game, you spend a lot of time playing it in 2D than 3D but I still though it was a breath of fresh air compared to what we got before. Generations is fun. Lost World has a learning curb to it and may or may not work well for you, I thought it was frustrating. Forces....is not terrible but it's not really that fun and the controls for the characters (Classic especially) just don't feel right. Yeah, the levels were short but it still was pretty boring and really nothing but a time waster. It was pretty underwhelming and not worth the $40.

I also understand that it's difficult to take some Sonic fans' word on a lot of the games because there's many out there who unconditionally love even the bottom of the barrel games and often say stuff like "I don't get how people can not like this game." Some just have straight up Stockholm Syndrome. I honestly wish they would go away but nothing I can do about it. But I also understand that Sonic is not everyone's cup of tea. I admit there's a lot I love about the series but I don't hold it up as one of the holy grail IPs that some do. All I really want is a good game, that's it.

[IMJ]

Ran across part of a tv trailer... That's just too bizarre for me.

This movie would've made more sense in every way if it took place in a fantasy world rather than Earth.

[RaphaelinSTL]

This movie would've made more sense in every way if it took place in a fantasy world rather than Earth.

It's cheaper to do the tired old, "fish out of water" story and have your favorite characters COME TO EARTH so many kids franchises turned into films have done.

That being said, I'm mildly interested in checking this out in the theaters and I don't know why.

My big question to you all is do you think this will take away the number one from Birds of Prey when it comes out? BOP will only be out one week before Sonic hits theaters and if Sonic takes its spot, BOP will be the second major post-Nolan DC movie to lose it's top spot at the box office in its second weekend next to Justice League. Now granted, BOP is rated R and has a smaller budget ... but I honestly see Sonic being number one the weekend it drops.

[TigerClaw]

Junkie XL talks about doing the Soundtrack to the Movie. And he can't use the Green Hill Theme for legal reasons.
http://www.tssznews.com/2020/01/17/junkie-xl-speaks-about-sonic-movie-score/

[Wildcat]

Thats weird about the Green Hill rights. Didn’t know Sega never actually owned the music.

So I know some here (maybe on other sites too) might not take me seriously when talking about Sonic since I’ve made it clear he’s my favorite character/franchise.

However I think I’ve been able to remain unbiased enough over the years. There’s been stuff I did not really enjoy or had mix feelings about.

I never finished the Sonic Boom cartoon. Didn’t think it was interesting and leaned too much on random comedy. I mentioned Black Knight was disappointing and I never really liked Sonic Heroes character swapping either. It was a nice idea but could have been done better.

So I’m sorry for repeating this again, but I just do not get the earth complaint. The concept of a nonhuman coming here was established since whatever the first alien story was and there’s many other things that could be viewed as out of place.

Why is Sonic specifically unfit for coming to earth? He’s from earth depending what continuity you use.

I know I tend to defend a lot of stuff but I honestly think a lot of things are perfectly acceptable because they’ve been done before and/or fit whatever the story is about.

[Papenbrook]

There's going to be a Sonic-themed run-and-walk event in Brazil.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOcqdmuXUAgxDUx?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/contriteorb4/status/1217988980014227457)

[TigerClaw]

The Baby Sonic Trailer. But now in English.

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[oldmanwinters]

Hooray for Sanic!
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sonic-hedgehog-could-jump-high-165220834.html

[Papenbrook]

Nooooooooo ....

Make it BOMB! :flaming:

[TigerClaw]

a Song for the Sonic Movie is expected to be out at Midnight. But it got leaked. You can listen to it here. The song is called Speed Me Up.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/01/sonic-movie-theme-speed-me-up-leaks-on-the-internet/

New TV Spot. Also. Sonic drives a car.

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Another TV Spot.

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[sdp]

The song speed me up is not bad at all, definitely feels very Sega of America Sonic inspired and it's great. SoA Sonic's attitude was what made him so cool.

The movie is trending to do fairly well and might be able to outdo Detective Pikachu, many months earlier in this same thread when I suggested this could do almost as well as Detective Pikachu I got called crazy, but not so crazy anymore now am I?

https://picfiles.alphacoders.com/320/thumb-320434.jpg

Seeing this giant poster while driving from work is really wonderful, brings me back. Sonic and Jim Carey? This reeks of the 90s, hell it feels like it could've been a movie that came out in the 90s when both Sonic and Jim Carey were in their prime fame.

[TigerClaw]

The song speed me up is not bad at all, definitely feels very Sega of America Sonic inspired and it's great. SoA Sonic's attitude was what made him so cool.

The movie is trending to do fairly well and might be able to outdo Detective Pikachu, many months earlier in this same thread when I suggested this could do almost as well as Detective Pikachu I got called crazy, but not so crazy anymore now am I?

https://picfiles.alphacoders.com/320/thumb-320434.jpg

Seeing this giant poster while driving from work is really wonderful, brings me back. Sonic and Jim Carey? This reeks of the 90s, hell it feels like it could've been a movie that came out in the 90s when both Sonic and Jim Carey were in their prime fame.
TY Dolla $ign and Wiz Khalifa worked on this song. They worked on the Shell Shocked song for the 2014 TMNT Movie.

[sdp]

I loved that song as well, :lol: Probably the only one

[Wildcat]

Nice song but it clearly mentions Tails. Why is nobody talking about that?

Doesn’t mean he’s in the movie but an end credits shot/cameo would not surprise me. They could have been friends when they were still kids. Before Sonic came to earth.

[ZariusTwo]

Here's the music video for Speed Me Up

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[Wildcat]

I saw that awhile ago. It’s pretty cool.

I forgot to mention the beginning totally sounds like the start of Metropolis Zone.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the first clip from the movie.

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[drgon78]

Nice, can't wait for this one.

The song is crap but interesting pixel effects.

[Coola Yagami]

Nice, can't wait for this one.

The song is crap but interesting pixel effects.

It's mostly aight, just too much of it is 'singing real fast in auto-tune can't understand what the **** they sayin'.

Also minor nitpick. This ain't Nintendo. You don't have to blow on the Genesis cartridges. I remember back in the day my friends were jumping up and down at the fact you could just pop the SEGA cartridge in and play it rather then spending 10 minutes blowing on the game and messing with it like you had to with the NES.

[Wildcat]

Maybe I’m reading too much into it but the video is all based on scenes from the movie. There’s no actual video game segments. Does that mean the Special Zones could be in the movie?

The Sonic 2 style one has street signs and donuts so that’s clearly a play on the movie itself but what about the sphere zone? He could briefly enter one while portal hopping.

Also he’s carrying a turtle. He could have a pet turtle or helps one because they’re too slow :lol:

[Papenbrook]

The embargo is set to lift on February 12th at 10:00 P.M. PST. (https://mobile.twitter.com/AmiyrahMartin/status/1221222540632195072)

If they are setting it this late, then we KNOW that this film's gonna bomb. Overall, a bad reception, a terrible word-of-mouth, and an abysmal opening weekend could kill this movie franchise ( and by extension, Sonic himself ) for good.

LET'S BRING IT ON! :evilgrin:

[ZariusTwo]

The embargo is set to lift on February 12th at 10:00 P.M. PST. (https://mobile.twitter.com/AmiyrahMartin/status/1221222540632195072)

If they are setting it this late, then we KNOW that this film's gonna bomb. Overall, a bad reception, a terrible word-of-mouth, and an abysmal opening weekend could kill this movie franchise ( and by extension, Sonic himself ) for good.

LET'S BRING IT ON! :evilgrin:

Oh move on already.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Oh move on already.

It's as if Papenbrook is begging to get banned.

[Shark_Blade]

Jim Carrey answered a little boy’s question “Why is Robotnik so angry?” in a very heartfelt way. <3

https://twitter.com/meaganharrell/status/1220863055661191168?s=21

[TigerClaw]

New clip from the Sonic Movie featuring Robotnik. Sonic called him Eggman in this clip.

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Here's another clip.

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Behind The Scenes Video with Jim Carrey.

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Behind The Scenes Video with Ben Schwartz

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B-Roll and Behind The Scenes Footage.

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[Coola Yagami]

Well geez, just show us the whole movie why doncha?

[ranger_scout]

Carrey believes that Riddler and Dr. Robotnick are very similar after playing both of them. Clearly that is what the producers had in mind when they cast him in this movie and from the way he is portraying the character from the trailers.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/2020/01/27/jim-carrey-sonic-robotnik-batman-forever-riddler-comparison/

[DarkFell]

Jim Carrey would definitely believe in his words because he has portrayed both movie villains as quirky and deranged in some aspect.

However, both characters have also been portrayed as serious villains within their own animated series' by different voice actors. My favorite Riddler is found within Batman: The Animated Series, and my favorite version of Dr. Robotnik is within the SatAM series. Neither villain had to be quirky or deranged - all they did was provide a sinister and calculating cold demeanor - those attributes made their personalities feel more grounded and believable.

[Papenbrook]

More ads:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPxreW-X0AQUvOF?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/vintage_away/status/1223971379667750914)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOvyjFBXsAIjRaD?format=jpg&name=medium (https://mobile.twitter.com/o_Azul35/status/1219335064380723200)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPfO8I0WkAM0c34?format=jpg&name=medium (https://mobile.twitter.com/PlanetaSonic/status/1222673369952411648)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPTygXPWAAESfIN?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/JonnyBunning/status/1221868049168576513)




Also, an explanation for the "The World's Largest Rubber-Band Ball" joke:




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPvisycU4AIRxTi?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPvisyrU4AAG67m?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1223820993992331264)

[Coola Yagami]

Jim Carrey would definitely believe in his words because he has portrayed both movie villains as quirky and deranged in some aspect.

However, both characters have also been portrayed as serious villains within their own animated series' by different voice actors. My favorite Riddler is found within Batman: The Animated Series, and my favorite version of Dr. Robotnik is within the SatAM series. Neither villain had to be quirky or deranged - all they did was provide a sinister and calculating cold demeanor - those attributes made their personalities feel more grounded and believable.

That's true, however in the actual games themselves, Robotnik is a bit of a goofball. It works in this case.

Riddler was a bit different because I don't think he was as goofy in the comics as he was in the 60's Batman show which Carrey was kinda going for.

[TigerClaw]

The Tracklist for the Soundtrack has been revealed.
https://soundtracktracklist.com/release/sonic-the-hedgehog-soundtrack/

1. Meet Sonic
2. Welcome to Green Hills
3. A Very Lonely Life
4. Dr. Robotnik
5. That Would Work
6. Is That a Drone
7. Things to Do Before I Die
8. A Visit From the Doctor
9. But I Will Always Be Faster
10. SF-Paris-Egypt-SF
11. Skyscraper
12. Not a Baby Bigfoot
13. He Is My Friend
14. A New Home
15. Sonic the Hedgehog

[Papenbrook]

Omigosh!

That soundtrack is so ... generic ...

Disappointing ...



Anyway, the movie apparently has two post-credit scenes. (https://mobile.twitter.com/o_Azul35/status/1224544549873377281)

Also, There's a clip of Sonic receiving his new sneakers. (https://mobile.twitter.com/CrafterArmys/status/1224940491952787456)






It has a 35/100 on the Critics Choice Association website. (http://criticschoice.com/search/?s=sonic) For reference, Cats has a 47/100 on that same website.

Yikes ...

[Coola Yagami]

Omigosh!

That soundtrack is so ... generic ...

Disappointing ...



Anyway, the movie apparently has two post-credit scenes. (https://mobile.twitter.com/o_Azul35/status/1224544549873377281)

Also, There's a clip of Sonic receiving his new sneakers. (https://mobile.twitter.com/CrafterArmys/status/1224940491952787456)






It has a 35/100 on the Critics Choice Association website. (http://criticschoice.com/search/?s=sonic) For reference, Cats has a 47/100 on that same website.

Yikes ...




I'd take that with a grain a salt. Those are the old folks that don't play that there video games.

[AquaParade]

I just realized Tails doesn't appear to be in this movie.

[The Deadman]

I'd take that with a grain a salt. Those are the old folks that don't play that there video games.

I see her hatred for a movie she doesn't plan on seeing is still going strong.

[TigerClaw]

I just realized Tails doesn't appear to be in this movie.
Don't look unless you want to. Leaked video of a Post Credit Scene. a certain Character is revealed.

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[Zulithe]

Early impressions on twitter seem mostly positive. Flip side... they usually are, influencers love to hype up these kinds of films. So hard to know for sure until next weekend.

Also I'm pretty happy with that after credits scene.

[BlimeyBullhop]

Don't look unless you want to. Leaked video of a Post Credit Scene. a certain Character is revealed.

_QEoRBRORCI

Very subtle dude.

[Shark_Blade]

Sonic scored an A- on Cinemascore. :D

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[AquaParade]

Wow if this is something I can enjoy, I’ll be thrilled. Keeping expectations low byt will def give a chance.

[Allio]

I mean it can't be any worse than the actual current Sonic games.

[Leo656]

Which ones are those? Both Mania and Forces were both pretty damn good to me, but those are the most recent ones I've played.

[Allio]

Mania was fine, but I found forces to be hot garbage. Games like Generaiton and Colors are about "average" for me.

[Papenbrook]

Sonic scored an A- on Cinemascore. :D

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Eh, I don't believe it. :|

Anyway, I found a behind-the-scenes picture from the set.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQOZw8WUEAIivep?format=jpg&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1225992594942902272)


Just, ... wow.

[Leo656]

Mania was fine, but I found forces to be hot garbage. Games like Generaiton and Colors are about "average" for me.

Well, that's unfortunate. We have very little in common regarding this, sadly.

I do think "Hot Garbage" is incredibly extreme, though. The worst thing I can come up with is that it's kinda short and very easy. But I'll gladly take that over some of the other sh*t we've seen in the franchise. I won't say you're wrong, it's your opinion; it just seems a bit extreme when some of the other games in the series are literally broken.

((Shrug)) I had fun with it for a few days. That's all I ever ask for.

[ZariusTwo]

Eh, I don't believe it. :|]

You're never going to entertain the idea of this movie being actually good, so that's not surprising

[drgon78]

Well I already have the after credits scene spoiled for me, though that makes me more interested.:lol:

[sdp]

Sonic the Hedgehog is the perfect example of people judging a book by its cover, people are praising the movie while months before they were blasting it. It's the exact same damn movie, the only difference is how Sonic looks.

[TigerClaw]

Sonic the Hedgehog is the perfect example of people judging a book by its cover, people are praising the movie while months before they were blasting it. It's the exact same damn movie, the only difference is how Sonic looks.
Maybe Paramount will listen to the fans if the Turtles don't look right in the reboot.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Well, apparently several youtube reviews who are sonic fans saw early screenings of the flick, and their opinion of the movie seems to be 'pretty good' and 'not bad'. We may just have a decent video game adaptation on our hands.

[frank_one]

Well, apparently several youtube reviews who are sonic fans saw early screenings of the flick, and their opinion of the movie seems to be 'pretty good' and 'not bad'. We may just have a decent video game adaptation on our hands.The fact that the movie appeals to Sonic fans, and not just to movie reviewers in general, is positive.

[IMJ]

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDCM9JZ0DM) "Dreamcast" Youtuber guy seemed to think it was really good....

[Papenbrook]

There are more Sonic stand-ins.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQWJOrWWoAMPO1f?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQWJO9xWsAA1u2i?format=jpg&name=medium ("https://mobile.twitter.com/williamweeks02/status/1226537369316265984)

[oldmanwinters]

There are more Sonic stand-ins.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQWJOrWWoAMPO1f?format=jpg&name=medium ("https://mobile.twitter.com/williamweeks02/status/1226537369316265984)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQWJO9xWsAA1u2i?format=jpg&name=medium




Haha, suddenly I want to be a guest at a birthday part in which that thing appears.

[AquaParade]

Kinda reminds me of that "Five Nights at Freddy's".

[TigerClaw]

There's a new TV Spot and it reveals a Character. Or Species rather.
https://twitter.com/I_am_SpiderCop/status/1226984700553629698

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQcePU6W4AEz1As?format=jpg&name=large

[Allio]

You know, I can't wait to see Pender's reaction to the film

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Oh, god, it's THEM... :o

... well, given the spoiler leaks we got on Sonic's backstory in this film, this is going to give sonic a really good reason to hate Knuckles if he ever meets him. :(

[The Deadman]

Who let Papenbrook make multiple accounts on Twitter?
https://twitter.com/CBMCringe/status/1227016476999028736

[Papenbrook]

There's a new TV Spot and it reveals a Character. Or Species rather.
https://twitter.com/I_am_SpiderCop/status/1226984700553629698

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQcePU6W4AEz1As?format=jpg&name=large


LOL! :lol:

They must be desperate ...

[Autbot_Benz]

This movie looks decent. Love that Jim Carrey is Eggman Sonic has his classic look. now we know Knuckle's tribe exists and Tails is shown in a post credit scene Also it triggers Papenbrook

https://i.imgur.com/a19peg0.gif

[IMJ]

There's a new TV Spot and it reveals a Character. Or Species rather.
https://twitter.com/I_am_SpiderCop/status/1226984700553629698

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQcePU6W4AEz1As?format=jpg&name=large

This looks like it belongs in a Crash Bandicoot movie rather than a Sonic film.

[Papenbrook]

Sonic the Hedgehog is the perfect example of people judging a book by its cover, people are praising the movie while months before they were blasting it. It's the exact same damn movie, the only difference is how Sonic looks.


And of that note (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/sonic-the-hedgehog-early-reactions), ...



"I think it had been about five months that had passed since the first trailer. We had worked very hard on our updates to the character. It was definitely a little bit of like, 'Oh man, what happens if they don't like this?"


... But really, everyone that saw it internally as I was working on the film, just responded so positively. It really felt like, once we shared it with the fans, they would really embrace it and be excited about it."


"Fortunately, any anxiety I had the night before passed really quickly once it was released. Because, yeah, it was such an incredible feeling to see Sonic 2.0 get embraced the way it was ..."

[Papenbrook]

Uh oh. It looks like the film is already receiving negative reception. (https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-sonic-the-hedgehog-doesnt-rock-even-after-a-new-paintjob/)

[TommyT]

Count my surprises.

[The Deadman]

Uh oh. It looks like the film is already receiving negative reception. (https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-sonic-the-hedgehog-doesnt-rock-even-after-a-new-paintjob/)

You love it, dont you.

[TigerClaw]

Uh oh. It looks like the film is already receiving negative reception. (https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-sonic-the-hedgehog-doesnt-rock-even-after-a-new-paintjob/)
That review got taken down. You just get Error 404.

[Papenbrook]

In, before the disaster:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQnS3NlVAAE5woA?format=png&name=large (https://mobile.twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1227744231747280896)

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm a bit torn on whether to watch this soon.

On the one hand, Jim Carrey looks so funny but everything else just looks so run of the mill.

Not awful, just generic and not like the fiery and lulzy nightmare fuel that we were about to get before.

[IMJ]

I'm a bit torn on whether to watch this soon.

On the one hand, Jim Carrey looks so funny but everything else just looks so run of the mill.

Not awful, just generic and not like the fiery and lulzy nightmare fuel that we were about to get before.

This is not a movie I would've sought out or gone to see on my own. But I will say that I am considering buying a ticket out of respect for the respect they showed the fans trying to fix the Sonic problem. It helps that it looks okay.... not great, but it doesn't look like a train wreck. I've come around on it a bit.

Although I still think that it's always a disaster when movies put otherworldly characters onto Earth because some simple minded film exec thinks it makes it more relatable or some similar nonsense. The killer is that this has backfired almost every time, but Hollywood does their thing.

[Andrew NDB]

Was it REALLY out of respect for the 35-45 year old fans, though? Or was it just the bean counters getting nervous about the sudden bad word of mouth?

I guess it doesn't really matter which. They fixed it, so...

[Autbot_Benz]

IGN
@IGN
·
38m
Sonic the Hedgehog is a love letter to longtime fans boosted by solid performances from Ben Schwartz as Sonic and Jim Carrey as Dr. Robotnik.

IGN 7/10

[ZariusTwo]

64% on RT

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sonic_the_hedgehog_2020

[oldmanwinters]

IGN
@IGN
·
38m
Sonic the Hedgehog is a love letter to longtime fans boosted by solid performances from Ben Schwartz as Sonic and Jim Carrey as Dr. Robotnik.

IGN 7/10

Ha, that's a best score than they give most of the 3D Sonic games.

I'm still bitter at them for their reluctant praise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2z761q9PA) of Sonic Colors back in 2010.

64% on RT

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sonic_the_hedgehog_2020

I'm seeing 70% on the Critic's Score.
http://i.imgur.com/ljP7xVoh.jpg (https://imgur.com/ljP7xVo)

Of course, these days a "Certified Fresh" RT critical score might well as be the kiss of death for box office performance.

[frank_one]

https://i.imgur.com/l2iLtCt.png

[Shark_Blade]

Best video game movie ever tbh. Even better than Detective Pikachu.

It surprisingly has a lot of heart touching moments and soul searching.

For those hellbent on review ratings, just think this:
Joker got 68% rating yet it won 2 Oscars and made over a billion at the box office. Screw rotten tomatoes it’s a joke system.

[TigerClaw]

You can listen to the Soundtrack online.

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[The Deadman]

Since people take Rotten Tomatoes as the end all be all of whether or not you should see a film, this movie has a 90% audience score right now. So much for everyone hating the movie at the moment.

[oldmanwinters]

Bought a ticket.
Saw it. Enjoyed it.
Sequel, please!

Also, suck it, Papenbrook. :twink:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Bought a ticket.
Saw it. Enjoyed it.
Sequel, please!

Also, suck it, Papenbrook. :twink:

Offical proof that this film did not make $0. :tlol:

[Leo656]

I don't want to see it but my wife does. :ohwell: Might be outvoted.

[oldmanwinters]

I found the entire credits animation sequence delightful.

Also, I can't imagine how horrifying the "other character from Sonic's homeworld" would have looked prior to the redesign.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Pretty good! Not amazing but for a Sonic film, definitely enjoyable.

Best video game movie ever tbh. Even better than Detective Pikachu.

Screw rotten tomatoes it’s a joke system.

I wouldn't say best but a very entertaining adaption. All I expected it to be.

Except it got a decent percentage there so chill, shill!

Bought a ticket.
Saw it. Enjoyed it.
Sequel, please!

Also, suck it, Papenbrook. :twink:

This! Soooo this!:lol:

[TigerClaw]

I'm gonna see it on Saturday.

[oldmanwinters]

For fans of SA2 there is a clever reference to the City Escape level once the movie shifts to San Francisco.

[Papenbrook]

I still think that the movie won't do very well, at least financially.

I mean, Fowler could have leaned into the bizarreness and weirdness of the overall Sonic lore. But, for some reason, he didn't.

Was it his personal choice, or was he restricted by the higher-ups?

[drgon78]

I am going to try to see it this morning before I go to work.

[ZariusTwo]

I don't want to see it but my wife does. :ohwell: Might be outvoted.

Just remember, if someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you uncomfortable...that's no good.:lol::P

[The Deadman]

I still think that the movie won't do very well, at least financially.


What happened to everyone hating this movie?

[ZariusTwo]

Saw it, had a blast.

Sonic was very emotional in the film...not just brazen and cool, just shows you those urban rumours of mandates Sega give about the character to creators are ********. Yeah, there was no sobbing, but there was longing, and some anger directed at Tom for wanting to leave Green Hill. Jim I enjoyed, but I feel his best scenes had already been spoiled in the trailers. In fact, a lot of the story's strongest beats were already there in the trailers, so it was just a case of enjoying whatever connected the dots.

The bar scene was the standout for me, and I liked how Sonic was put in mortal peril in two major instances in the movie. Robotnik was out for blood. Wish more had been developed in the town with the characters, felt weird to set up people Sonic could interact with and sacrifice it all for a generic road trip plot...maybe for the sequel I guess.

[oldmanwinters]

Saw it, had a blast.

Sonic was very emotional in the film...not just brazen and cool, just shows you those urban rumours of mandates Sega give about the character to creators are ********. Yeah, there was no sobbing, but there was longing, and some anger directed at Tom for wanting to leave Green Hill. Jim I enjoyed, but I feel his best scenes had already been spoiled in the trailers. In fact, a lot of the story's strongest beats were already there in the trailers, so it was just a case of enjoying whatever connected the dots.

The bar scene was the standout for me, and I liked how Sonic was put in mortal peril in two major instances in the movie. Robotnik was out for blood. Wish more had been developed in the town with the characters, felt weird to set up people Sonic could interact with and sacrifice it all for a generic road trip plot...maybe for the sequel I guess.

I agree about the trailers spoiling most of the best stuff, however...

This movie's trailer, more than any other in recent memory, situated most of the movie's scenes into different contexts. Most all of the background environments were switched between trailer and film and most of the trailer shots feature Sonic in his iconic shoes even those he doesn't acquire those until the last 20 minutes of the movie.

[drgon78]

I just saw it, really enjoyed it, a solid 4 stars, though I really wish the movie was longer.

[Autbot_Benz]

Glad its a hit I hope it beats BOP at the box office.

[ZariusTwo]

One other thing

Sanic

Is in this.:lol:

[oldmanwinters]

Doesn't "catch 'em all" but here's a decent Easter Egg roundup:
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-42-easter-eggs-and-refere/2900-3383/6/

[TurtleTitan97]

Watched it. Not as bad as I feared, but I can't say I enjoyed it as much as Detective Pikachu. I could care less about the human cast or the unnecessary product placement. I have to agree with Pap that this film should have leaned more into the wilder elements of Sonic's lore instead of restricting it to Earth.

Schwartz's Sonic was alright though. Film could have done a better job establishing the rivalry with Robotnik, he felt more like Tom's nemesis.

Not to mention all the unanswered questions like:


* Why was a talking realistic looking owl taking care of Sonic?
* Why were those Tribal Echidnas after him?
* What was up with the Pseudo Super Sonic transformation at the end? That literally came from nowhere!


Overall I'd give it 6.7/10

[ZariusTwo]

Not to mention all the unanswered questions like:

* Why was a talking realistic looking owl taking care of Sonic?

Longclaw (I think that's her name), is from the games I think, one of Sonic's mentors. I've never played much of the games after 2000 so I'm not familiar with her.

* Why were those Tribal Echidnas after him?

The answer's in the narration, some bad people wanted his power

* What was up with the Pseudo Super Sonic transformation at the end? That literally came from nowhere!


Sonic building up energy like that had been a major recurring plot point in the film

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I saw the flick, loved how accurate they got sonic and his world (what little we saw of it, anyway). I hope the sequel lets Sonic go to his planet more, and Amy, the chaos emeralds, and Metal sonic are brought in as part of the story, along with that little surprise from the end credit scene, of course. :lol:

And I think a certain character in the film is based on Old man Owl, a goofy friend/'mentor' of sonic's from the OVA. I personally think they should have used uncle chuck for that role, though (and yes, Sega owns Uncle Chuck)

[TurtleTitan97]

Longclaw (I think that's her name), is from the games I think, one of Sonic's mentors. I've never played much of the games after 2000 so I'm not familiar with her.[QUOTE]

Except I'm pretty sure she isn't. I checked places like the Sonic wiki to see if a character like her had appeared in any games or comics and I found zero references. She was totally made for this movie alone. And it still doesn't excuse how off putting the design is compared to Sonic and the Echidnas.




[QUOTE]The answer's in the narration, some bad people wanted his power

But what exactly IS his power and how does it work? Is it Chaos energy? Some Sonic equivalent to the Speed Force? Sonic lore is confusing enough as it is, you can't just introduce a new power up without explaining how it works.

Also those tribal Echidnas were originally suppose to be lizard people according to released concept art, but they changed them around the time they redesigned Sonic.

And yes, the Pseudo Super Sonic transformation did come out of no where because there was zero buildup to it aside from the power of friendship. Sonic has always been associated with wind, not with electricity. This just makes him look like a knock off Flash.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Except I'm pretty sure she isn't. I checked places like the Sonic wiki to see if a character like her had appeared in any games or comics and I found zero references. She was totally made for this movie alone. And it still doesn't excuse how off putting the design is compared to Sonic and the Echidnas.

Again, this character is based on old man owl, from the sonic OVA, as well as the owl from the storybook 'stay sonic', which is based of Sega of America's original series bible.

[TurtleTitan97]

[QUOTE=TurtleTitan97;1835674][QUOTE=ZariusTwo;1835645]Longclaw (I think that's her name), is from the games I think, one of Sonic's mentors. I've never played much of the games after 2000 so I'm not familiar with her.

Again, this character is based on old man owl, from the sonic OVA, as well as the owl from the storybook 'stay sonic, which is based of Sega of America's original series bible.

Did anyone involved from the movie confirm this? Otherwise there's no proof.

If they did, I take back that complaint. But you have to admit they visually they could have tried to make her look like she could fit into the games.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

[QUOTE=Panda_Kahn_fan;1835676][QUOTE=TurtleTitan97;1835674]

Did anyone involved from the movie confirm this? Otherwise there's no proof.

If they did, I take back that complaint. But you have to admit they visually they could have tried to make her look like she could fit into the games.

fair enough, I guess there is no way to know for sure. But I still hold instead of Longclaw as a parental figure,they should have either used uncle chuck from SATAM, or Sonic's mother Queen Aleena from Sonic underground, or Sonic's parents from the original sonic manga. (Where Sonic's real name is Nicolas Parlouser :lol: )

[TurtleTitan97]

fair enough, I guess there is no way to know for sure. But I still hold instead of Longclaw as a parental figure,they should have either used uncle chuck from SATAM, or Sonic's mother Queen Aleena from Sonic underground, or Sonic's parents from the original sonic manga. (Where Sonic's real name is Nicolas Parlouser :lol: )

Uncle Chuck would have been a much better stand in than Longclaw.

Too bad it's unlikely we'll ever see him again in Sonic media.

[Shark_Blade]

Sonic is making history: ‘Sonic The Hedgehog’ Runs Faster With 4-Day Of $64M+

https://deadline.com/2020/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-birds-of-prey-will-ferrell-downhill-valentines-day-box-office-1202860119/

The film could potentially score the best video game feature adaptation debut of all-time, with a 3-day of $53.99M and 4-day of $64.3M, according to industry estimates this morning.

Anything over $54.3M in 3-days beats the previous record set by Legendary/Warner Bros.’ Pokemon: Detective Pikachu. On a 4-day basis, Sonic does beat Detective Pikachu as the best start for a video game feature, the former pic earning $58M over a non-holiday period last May. Paramount is seeing on their end a $50M 3-day and $60M 4-day for Sonic which is still great.

[Autbot_Benz]

Sonic will pass Birds of Poop at the box office Monday if it continues doing super well

[ZariusTwo]

Sonic will pass Birds of Poop at the box office Monday if it continues doing super well

Another victory for the unwoken genre

[The Deadman]

I'm hoping to see it monday after work. Everyone across all platforms is saying it's good so I have high hopes.

[The Deadman]

Sonic is making history: ‘Sonic The Hedgehog’ Runs Faster With 4-Day Of $64M+

https://deadline.com/2020/02/sonic-the-hedgehog-birds-of-prey-will-ferrell-downhill-valentines-day-box-office-1202860119/

The film could potentially score the best video game feature adaptation debut of all-time, with a 3-day of $53.99M and 4-day of $64.3M, according to industry estimates this morning.

Anything over $54.3M in 3-days beats the previous record set by Legendary/Warner Bros.’ Pokemon: Detective Pikachu. On a 4-day basis, Sonic does beat Detective Pikachu as the best start for a video game feature, the former pic earning $58M over a non-holiday period last May. Paramount is seeing on their end a $50M 3-day and $60M 4-day for Sonic which is still great.

But..but..we were told in this very thread that the film was gonna flop!!!

[shredder orokusaki]

i will see it on friday. Sonic is my favorite platform games because it was my first video game! In 1994 they gave me a sega game gear as a present and it had sonic 1 with it. I started playing it and i like it a lot. Then in 1996 when i got my first pc since then i continue playing them on PC. From what i see the movie is getting very good reviews which means that it is doing well.

[IMJ]

But..but..we were told in this very thread that the film was gonna flop!!!

You make it sound like it was unreasonable to have thought this one in particular was going to flop. It had all of the makings of a flop -

1. video game movie
2. CGi stuffed animal that neither looks real nor animated
3. fan backlash to design
4. added budget for fixes
5. washed up movie star
6. cliche story where an off-world character is unnecessarily brought to Earth.

I'm going to see it tonight, which is crazy because it's not something I'd normally sit through. But it sounds entertaining enough and I'm happy to support the fan service this movie got, especially in light of Birds of Prey. Paying for Sonic right now is a two for one win.

[TigerClaw]

Don't know if this counts as a spoiler. But

Jon Batiste's rendition of Green Hill Zone is featured in the Sonic Movie.

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[Shark_Blade]

But..but..we were told in this very thread that the film was gonna flop!!!Some people are that foolish thinking they know about the future. :D

Anyway, Sonic got 95% Certified Fresh Audience score and an A rating from CinemaScore. More reason to rejoice.

https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1228852699329892357?s=21

It’s not just that so many of you are going to see #Sonicmovie* , it’s that you are loving what you see! SONIC IS CERTIFIED FRESH ON @ROTTENTOMATOES W/ A 95% AUDIENCE SCORE & AN “A” CINEMA SCORE! How are those numbers calculated? I have no idea! But I’ve been told this is amazing.

[ranger_scout]

The film was fun. I did think the story was kind of familiar, but it was funny and did have some heart. Sonic in this movie really does seem like a kid's version of Quicksilver from 20 Century Studios' X-Men films and I think that's good thing for younger audiences. Ben Schwartz was perfect for the part. Carrey was an entertaining villain, which is what I expected and James Marsden was solid but not outstanding.

Tails appearing during the mid-credits scene was a nice surprise. I know my best friend was hoping to see him. We also both noticed at the beginning of the movie that echidnas were hunting Sonic. I wouldn't be surprised if Knuckles was a part of that tribe.

[Allio]

thoughts on a sequel.


Number 2 will a combination of Sonic 2 and Knuckles. Knuckles (now the only surviving member of the Enchidnas) will reveal why Sonic was being hunted as it would be related to Chaos, whom is the villain of the 3rd film.

[oldmanwinters]

thoughts on a sequel.


Number 2 will a combination of Sonic 2 and Knuckles. Knuckles (now the only surviving member of the Enchidnas) will reveal why Sonic was being hunted as it would be related to Chaos, whom is the villain of the 3rd film.



Seems like the backstory with the echidnas being greedy for power could line-up nicely with the Sonic Adventure flashbacks to what destroyed their civilization. I will be curious to see how Knuckles gets incorporated, as it would be odd to have him grow up as a part of a tribe rather than being the last (known) of his people stuck guarding the island's emerald, in accordance with tradition.

[Shark_Blade]

In Sonic Adventure, Tikal belonged to that echidna tribe co-existing with Chaos and Chao. When her father attempted to steal the chaos emeralds from Chaos, Chaos went on a rampage resulting Tikal sealing it inside the Master Emerald.

Years down the road, apparently Knuckles is the only lone guardian left to guard the Master Emerald.

Imagine if they incorporate this story into the movie. Exciting :D

[IMJ]

Well I thought it was really good. Any woke politics that you might sense are organic and without statement, and therefore simply dissolve into a nice story and the kind of real life situation that most reasonable people have lived in and abided by for years.

The characters were all really likeable and seeing Jim Carey unhinged was equal parts nostalgia and entertainment. Sonic was very likeable and fun.

It's not a movie that I'd go buy when it comes out, but it's honestly what theater movies should be - just an hour and a half of escapism, fun, laughs and eyecandy. Definitely worth seeing at least one time for adults. Kids might want to own. Everyone will want to play a Sonic game when it's over.

[Coola Yagami]

It was a great movie. Better than I was expecting, a bit hard on the feels near the end. I couldn't imagine having the same kind of feels had they kept the original horrible design though, so staying closer to the game design was a good choice.

I actually could relate to Sonic a bit, no matter how hard he tried to occupy himself and have fun, he could never shake the feeling of being all alone. I'm glad over the last year I found some new friends that were able to join me in seeing it today so I wouldn't have to see it alone.

Robotnik felt right out of Jim Carrey's interview, just a bitter lonely type that chose to only trust machines and lash out instead of actually trying to make a friend. I thought Jim was just making up a child friendly excuse for why Robotnik is so angry all the time, but he nailed it.

Good movie all around. Zero politics within the movie itself, just a wild ride.

The only politics I heard about is how Sonic is beating BoP, and the woke culture or rather, the anti-woke culture is spinning it as 'movie that actually listened to the fans is doing way better than movie that chose to lecture the fans', but that's in our sick real world. The movie itself is not at fault that it was actually good, and that they decided to go back and re-do Sonic and make him look like Sonic.

[Shark_Blade]

Sonic Movie is #1 in the world & had the biggest domestic opening of all time for a video game movie
https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1229093644633808896?s=21 In the words of Sonic- Ummm, meow? AHHH!!!

#SonicMovie* is #1 in the world & had the biggest domestic opening all time for a video game movie!

It’s all because of the fans that we are here. Thanks for your feedback, your passion & for your love of Sonic. You did this. Thank you!

[Leo656]

I'm definitely genuinely curious as to whether the movie is doing more for the 30+ crowd or the kids audience. No real reason, I just kinda wonder in general who cares most about Sonic in general nowadays. He's still ostensibly a kids character but I've long suspected that his appeal nowadays is mainly towards those who grew up with the character.

I'unno, just something that crossed my mind.

[TigerClaw]

Had to share this. I love all the genuine reactions.

a compilation of audience reactions to seeing Tails.

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[Coola Yagami]

I'm definitely genuinely curious as to whether the movie is doing more for the 30+ crowd or the kids audience. No real reason, I just kinda wonder in general who cares most about Sonic in general nowadays. He's still ostensibly a kids character but I've long suspected that his appeal nowadays is mainly towards those who grew up with the character.

I'unno, just something that crossed my mind.
I can't speak for some but my theater had way more adults than kids. And that's not counting adults taking their kids.

[Shark_Blade]

https://twitter.com/ign/status/1229148712729022464?s=21

This weekend at the box office: Thanks to a successful debut, Sonic the Hedgehog now holds the record for most successful video game movie debut of all time.

Pretty ironic this coming from IGN.

Had to share this. I love all the genuine reactions.

a compilation of audience reactions to seeing Tails.

2VybDlS9vHE

Thanks for sharing the reactions. The hype is real. :D

[IMJ]

I'm definitely genuinely curious as to whether the movie is doing more for the 30+ crowd or the kids audience. No real reason, I just kinda wonder in general who cares most about Sonic in general nowadays. He's still ostensibly a kids character but I've long suspected that his appeal nowadays is mainly towards those who grew up with the character.

I'unno, just something that crossed my mind.

There were definitely a lot of families at the Friday showings yesterday. Now by contrast, right next to us was a video gamer (Atari shirt, Sonic hat, hipster glasses, etc) adult-ish guy with his GF and he was having an exaggerated blast so my guess was that he was some kind of big fan of the Sonic cartoon or games or something his whole life.

But other than that standout of a theater goer, most of the people I saw had pretty young kids with them, for sure. And I'm pretty sure wasn't sold out, but it was close.

[sdp]

I love how I got so much hate all this time for saying this movie would be hella fun, and now it's being enjoyed by most people and also it's likely to outgross Detective Pikachu. Called it many months ago. I was laughed at on twitter over this :lol:

People might say "oh but it's different now" It's the same movie, they just changed the CG. Even realistic Sonic would've done fine.

Holy god damn f-cking sh-t this movie is going to be insanely fun to watch, it finally clicked on what they're going for. It's going to go full meta that Detective Pikachu won't be able to do since it has more of a reputation to keep while here they'll just be playing around with the franchise like the Sonic the Hedgehog twitter.

I might be wrong but, really why else would they make such a bizarre take on Sonic? They have a master plan, count on it.

I'm excited, I think this movie will outdo Detective Pikachu.

[CyberCubed]

I'm going to have to wait till this comes out on streaming before I can see it, which will hopefully be in about 3 months, but I'm glad to hear it turned out good.

[IMJ]

I'm going to have to wait till this comes out on streaming before I can see it, which will hopefully be in about 3 months, but I'm glad to hear it turned out good.

Why? You can't just go to the theater? IIRC, it wasn't long - maybe an hour and a half.

Honestly I paid for it pretty much out of the two-fer-one principle that the filmmakers not only addressed the fan concerns, but also because it was such a stark contrast to the messaging and BS of Birds of Prey. Normally I wouldn't have seen either of those at the theater, but Sonic gave people a chance to make a statement by paying to see it.

I'm just glad that it turned out to be very entertaining.

[oldmanwinters]

Lolz...
https://twitter.com/vrhyoumaru/status/1229106149179437063?s=21

[Coola Yagami]

Why? You can't just go to the theater? IIRC, it wasn't long - maybe an hour and a half.



You realize Cubed hardly ever leaves the house, right?

[Coola Yagami]

I love how I got so much hate all this time for saying this movie would be hella fun, and now it's being enjoyed by most people and also it's likely to outgross Detective Pikachu. Called it many months ago. I was laughed at on twitter over this :lol:

People might say "oh but it's different now" It's the same movie, they just changed the CG. Even realistic Sonic would've done fine.

Idk. Pretty sure all the feels moments would have fallen flat had Sonic look like all weird and ugly like before.

[Autbot_Benz]

If we are talking just Domestic Gross Sonic has kicked Birds of Prey's ass

Sonic
DOMESTIC (61.9%)
$70,000,000

Birds
DOMESTIC (42.6%)
$62,018,302

still needs a bit to win Worldwide

[IMJ]

You realize Cubed hardly ever leaves the house, right?


Umm.. no. Honestly I don't know if you just made a friendly joke, or if you are digging on the guy because he's a recluse, or if you're making an honest observation because maybe he's in a wheelchair or bedridden or something.
So. No, I have no idea. That is, I suppose, why I asked "why?" in the post above?

8)

[Leo656]

It's probably more because he's an admitted thief and doesn't believe in paying for things. :lol:

Like I know he gets out to the movies for "big" things but stuff like this he's probably not inclined to go out for. That's my assumption anyway. :trazz:

[IMJ]

It's probably more because he's an admitted thief and doesn't believe in paying for things. :lol:

Like I know he gets out to the movies for "big" things but stuff like this he's probably not inclined to go out for. That's my assumption anyway. :trazz:

Oh, okay. Well in that case I would recommend to him the WD Mycloud home media server. There are many models out there, but you can keep a lot of stuff on the 6tb model.

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[Powder]

This was pretty decent. Generic & forgettable but amusing & inoffensive. Probably the best you can ask for when it comes to video game or Paramount films. I liked Detective Pikachu way more.