Timothy/Pulverizer/Mutagen Man- a lost cause? - Page 3

MCLeo28 · 06-01-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Not only was Timothy not part of finally creating the retro-mutagen, but Donnie didn't seem to think about Timothy at first. I am worried that Timothy might have a tragic ending for the conclusion of his arc.

I'm personally hoping Mutagen Man plays a role in aiding the production of Retro-Mutagen. Hopefully he shows up again soon at the end of Season 2 or even the Finale.

*pennydreadful* · 06-01-2014, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MCLeo28

I'm personally hoping Mutagen Man plays a role in aiding the production of Retro-Mutagen. Hopefully he shows up again soon at the end of Season 2 or even the Finale.

Ditto; I went from finding Timothy unspeakably annoying at first to empathising with him quite a bit... I want to see a resolution for him.

*Shiro Kame* · 06-01-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Ditto; I went from finding Timothy unspeakably annoying at first to empathising with him quite a bit... I want to see a resolution for him.

As do I. He was just a kid who made bad choices. No one deserves to end up like he did...except maybe the Foot Clan.

*Coola Yagami* · 06-01-2014, 09:27 PM

Here's a wacky idea. Let's douse him with retromutagen and see what happens!

Kirby, while not as far gone as Timmy, was still bascially a mindless bat monster. Pretty much seemed like a lost cause to me. But hit him with Retromutagen and he seems just fine.

So give Timmy a shot.

MCLeo28 · 06-02-2014, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Here's a wacky idea. Let's douse him with retromutagen and see what happens!

Kirby, while not as far gone as Timmy, was still bascially a mindless bat monster. Pretty much seemed like a lost cause to me. But hit him with Retromutagen and he seems just fine.

So give Timmy a shot.

Yes, but the Turtles had use stealth and could actually beat Kirby O'Neil fairly easily, so dousing him with Retro-Mutagen wasn't difficult at all add on to the fact that he was able to cooperate once April convinced him too.

Mutagen Man however, is a lot more powerful, so once Donnie unfreezes him to cure him, he's going out on a rampage.

*Coola Yagami* · 06-02-2014, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MCLeo28

Yes, but the Turtles had use stealth and could actually beat Kirby O'Neil fairly easily, so dousing him with Retro-Mutagen wasn't difficult at all add on to the fact that he was able to cooperate once April convinced him too.

Mutagen Man however, is a lot more powerful, so once Donnie unfreezes him to cure him, he's going out on a rampage.

Honestly though, they could just trick him into drinking the retromutagen....

*BabyTurtles* · 06-03-2014, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Honestly though, they could just trick him into drinking the retromutagen....

or just throw it on him.

like seriously the minute he is unfrozen just throw some on him XD it only takes a drop.

*pennydreadful* · 06-03-2014, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiro Kame

As do I. He was just a kid who made bad choices. No one deserves to end up like he did...except maybe the Foot Clan.

Ditto, I mean - he's basically a loser who wanted to not be a loser. I don't know about anyone else, but I can definitely relate!

*Coola Yagami* · 06-03-2014, 07:46 AM

I have a bad feeling he's gonna die or be trapped as mutagen man for the rest if the series. Nick tried to make him as unlikeable as possibly so we wouldn't care if that did happen. I assume the tmnt treating him ****** is also a subliminal way to make the kids watching also hate him. After all the tmnt are the heroes.

The problem is they never really made Timothy into a 'bad guy' that deserved all that. He was stupid over anxious and basically a doofus, but he wasn't evil. So sympathy will still exist for the guy.

Lou 500 · 06-03-2014, 08:22 AM

I personally want him to pop his ooze-filled clogs; I was never able to feel sorry for him for his utterly ridiculous notion that dousing himself in mutagenic goo couldn't have any consequences. He was a lost cause from the beginning.

MCLeo28 · 06-03-2014, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

or just throw it on him.

like seriously the minute he is unfrozen just throw some on him XD it only takes a drop.

If that was the case, the whole Baxter Stockman, Turtles, and Footclan race for the Retro-Mutagen wouldn't have happened at all.

*Coola Yagami* · 06-03-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou 500

I personally want him to pop his ooze-filled clogs; I was never able to feel sorry for him for his utterly ridiculous notion that dousing himself in mutagenic goo couldn't have any consequences. He was a lost cause from the beginning.

As far as he knew he woulda become a kickass mutant and help Donnie win the fight. For the longest time people even thought he was gonna be the newtralizer.

Creativecreature31 · 06-03-2014, 01:45 PM

I have no idea what will happen to Timothy at this point...

They could find a way to cure him. (Seems more probable, since the show is aimed at kids after all.)

But on the other hand.... Maybe if the show actually has enough bravery, they could actually have Donatello do to Timothy, the same thing he did to Baxter Stockman in the Mirage Comics. (Possible, it kinda looks like a slightly similar situation...)

*BabyTurtles* · 06-03-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MCLeo28

If that was the case, the whole Baxter Stockman, Turtles, and Footclan race for the Retro-Mutagen wouldn't have happened at all.

that whole thing shouldn't have happened, there was enough retro mutagen in that canister to heal Baxter, Kirby, Splinter, and all the mutants shown and any mutants that would arrive.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-03-2014, 03:23 PM

If he was cured, he'd probably just go right back to being the Pulverizer... which I don't think anyone (even TPTB) wants to see.

*JTH* · 06-03-2014, 04:46 PM

I've stated before, I don't think they would have hammered home the "You're responsible for whatever happens" quote if it doesn't "end" in tragedy.

To me, there's no closure to that line if he's cured and then just never shows up again.

*BabyTurtles* · 06-03-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jth

I've stated before, I don't think they would have hammered home the "You're responsible for whatever happens" quote if it doesn't "end" in tragedy.

To me, there's no closure to that line if he's cured and then just never shows up again.

Donnie can be responsible for curing him XD that's what can happen.

*JTH* · 06-03-2014, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Donnie can be responsible for curing him XD that's what can happen.

That's what I'm saying though, if Donnie cures him and that's the end, then the story and arc never really ends, Donnie will have to continue to be watching out for him for end's on because of what was told of him, which I think we all know won't happen for the longevity of the show, meaning that line has very little meaning if Donnie just cures Timothy and he lets him be, because Donnie will need to be "forever responsible". Meaning it would have to end in some way.

*Coola Yagami* · 06-03-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jth

That's what I'm saying though, if Donnie cures him and that's the end, then the story and arc never really ends, Donnie will have to continue to be watching out for him for end's on because of what was told of him, which I think we all know won't happen for the longevity of the show, meaning that line has very little meaning if Donnie just cures Timothy and he lets him be, because Donnie will need to be "forever responsible". Meaning it would have to end in some way.

That's just how life works though. Killing him shouldn't be the answer. Besides maybe they can go another route and make so the experience teaches him a lesson and he decides to either leave the hero life or get more serious about it. I know he was meant a sole comedy relief but that kind of traumatic event does change a guy.

Though this might work more in a comic. The cartoon is too status quo to do that kind of dramatic change and just make him a doofus that didn't learn his lesson again.

*Metalwolf* · 06-03-2014, 06:39 PM

This likely has almost zero chance of it happening, but maybe he becomes Rocksteady?

06-01-2014, 09:27 PM	#44
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	Here's a wacky idea. Let's douse him with retromutagen and see what happens! Kirby, while not as far gone as Timmy, was still bascially a mindless bat monster. Pretty much seemed like a lost cause to me. But hit him with Retromutagen and he seems just fine. So give Timmy a shot. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

06-03-2014, 07:46 AM	#49
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	I have a bad feeling he's gonna die or be trapped as mutagen man for the rest if the series. Nick tried to make him as unlikeable as possibly so we wouldn't care if that did happen. I assume the tmnt treating him ****** is also a subliminal way to make the kids watching also hate him. After all the tmnt are the heroes. The problem is they never really made Timothy into a 'bad guy' that deserved all that. He was stupid over anxious and basically a doofus, but he wasn't evil. So sympathy will still exist for the guy. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

06-03-2014, 03:23 PM	#55
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06-03-2014, 08:22 AM	#50
Lou 500 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 478	I personally want him to pop his ooze-filled clogs; I was never able to feel sorry for him for his utterly ridiculous notion that dousing himself in mutagenic goo couldn't have any consequences. He was a lost cause from the beginning.

06-03-2014, 01:45 PM	#53
Creativecreature31 Thug Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 89	I have no idea what will happen to Timothy at this point... They could find a way to cure him. (Seems more probable, since the show is aimed at kids after all.) But on the other hand.... Maybe if the show actually has enough bravery, they could actually have Donatello do to Timothy, the same thing he did to Baxter Stockman in the Mirage Comics. (Possible, it kinda looks like a slightly similar situation...)

06-03-2014, 04:46 PM	#56
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	I've stated before, I don't think they would have hammered home the "You're responsible for whatever happens" quote if it doesn't "end" in tragedy. To me, there's no closure to that line if he's cured and then just never shows up again.

06-03-2014, 06:39 PM	#60
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	This likely has almost zero chance of it happening, but maybe he becomes Rocksteady?