So... um... Bishop... - Page 2

*CyberCubed* · 09-28-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey

I have always planned on watching most if not all of it, but I haven't got around to it yet. I watched it religiously for the first 2 seasons when they were first airing and I loved it. By the time it got around to FF, I had completely lost interest.

So then why did you stop long before that? Either way I'm pretty sure the entire show is watchable online if you look hard enough.

Zak The Neutrino · 09-28-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey

I have always planned on watching most if not all of it, but I haven't got around to it yet. I watched it religiously for the first 2 seasons when they were first airing and I loved it. By the time it got around to FF, I had completely lost interest.

I'm in the same boat as you on that one. I just recently started watching that series.

shinefra · 10-02-2015, 01:22 PM

Bishop was my favorite villain of the 2002 series, this one has no personality, he’s just another Krang model to save money on character design. I hope his character develops better with time.

Technogeek29 · 10-02-2015, 04:18 PM

I admit orignally I was hard on the character take at first, but I can see this working. Bishop is good (never really being evil actually) Just make him an extremist like the original while he wants to stop the Kraang, show he isn't above using others as a means to an end.

Putting the Turtles in the dilemma of his intentions are good but his actions say otherwise.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-02-2015, 04:40 PM

I really like this incarnation of Bishop and the back story of what happened with the Kraang. There's always the possibility he could turn bad, so we can't rule that out. But for what he is now, I'm fine with it. I love that they brought the Utroms in. Now I hope we some Neutrinos next.

Avatar Yuffie · 10-04-2015, 04:42 AM

Evil Utrom Shredder exists. Good guy Bishop serving the same plot twist didn't bug me. The fact he becomes a benevolent world leader in 2k3's future helped.

matteso586 · 10-04-2015, 08:46 AM

Is anyone confused about how he knows that the Triceratons are coming?

*Coola Yagami* · 10-05-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

You understand cartoons aren't real right? The Kraang didn't actually steal his suit, the writers made that up when they were developing season 3.

Exactly. They were lazy once again... and made up some backstory bs to excuse it. Doesn't change the fact that it was still lazy. Especially for a major character like Bishop. Chrome Dome annoys me, but at least he was a minor cameo character. Bishop was a main villain in the 2K3 and his new incarnation here deserved better.

*Powder* · 10-05-2015, 11:19 PM

Again, it's not "lazy", it's using resources. They have budgetary restrictions & have to make moves wisely.

*Shark_Blade* · 10-06-2015, 06:15 PM

I kinda like how Bishop is the origin of the Kraangs' clone android bodies.

For the story plot, at least we saw Karai spitting out the memory worm so... did she remember? She's dead for now anyway.

Diorm · 10-06-2015, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Again, it's not "lazy", it's using resources. They have budgetary restrictions & have to make moves wisely.

Ok, so why are they making a whole new season with new planets new models and all right after that?
Don't get me wrong, I like the Bishop idea but budget was not the reason.

*Ninjinister* · 10-07-2015, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Diorm

Ok, so why are they making a whole new season with new planets new models and all right after that?
Don't get me wrong, I like the Bishop idea but budget was not the reason.

New season = new budget.

Diorm · 10-07-2015, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

New season = new budget.

So for a season big Final they have no Budget left? Makes no sense.

Chopperface · 12-01-2015, 09:26 AM

I'm pleased to have a 2003 original in the show, I always am, and Bishop is being developed more than Hun in the span of a whole episode. He was only around for an episode, however, and I'd like to see more of him, but on the whole I'm pleased with 2012 Bishop. The new take opens some new potential, maybe he can be the new Kurtzman, a Nick Fury-esque figure so they don't have to keep paying to have Robert Forster.

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

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I have to say, I can be fine with recreations of Hun and Zog, but I really don't like this being Bishop. I already am disappointed in Nolan North voicing him (personally believe someone else should have done it to be unique), but why turn the complex villain of the 2003 series into another alien? I get it's based on the book that was published, but seriously this is not a decision I agree with.

Though I'm interested in seeing the Utroms again, this feels like a disappointment addition to the roster. Although everyone can finally shut up about Bishop, I am nonetheless annoyed this is how they bring him in. The reveal with the actual chess piece was cool though.

I do agree that we should've had a different actor playing Bishop just to make him stand out better from the rest of the Kraang. Sub-Prime and Prime have unique voices, why couldn't Bishop?

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Getting kinda sick of the lazy designs here. Slap some shades on one of the countless Kraang drones we're seen since episode 1, call him Bishop and call it a day. Use Bradford's human form, just color the arms metallic, call him Chrome Dome and call it a day. I'm wonder when all is said and done, how many of these lazy re-use characters we're gonna get. Maybe put a new hat on the tea part girl and call her Shadow.

It did feel lazy since it was just the Norman design we've had from day 1 with glasses. I'm too used to looking at Bishop and thinking Kraang.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What on earth? Bishop's design looked exactly like the Kraang droids from day 1. Its not a re-used design, Bishop also said they based the drones on his first one. And he looks exactly like him.

Calling it lazy makes me think you missed the entire point and it flew over your head.

Yeah it is a re-used design because the Norman animation model has been around from the start, and they used it for a whole new character with the only difference being the glasses. No, you missed the entire point.

The Happy One · 12-01-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Again, it's not "lazy", it's using resources. They have budgetary restrictions & have to make moves wisely.

Have to agree with this, guys. Why make a whole new design for a character that was only gonna show up in the finale when they could be resourceful and use they Kraang outer body suit and thus explain that he created it?
The rest are clones. They're supposed to look like him, I believe.

But, perhaps, since his body was shot through a few times, the next time we see Bishop he could have a new, unique body. Who knows?

But I definitely think resourceful is the word. I mean, with the whole new backgrounds and settings just in that one finale I doubt they'd be 'lazy' with Bishop...

Splinter the boss · 12-07-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by matteso586

Is anyone confused about how he knows that the Triceratons are coming?

I'm confused how he contacted the fugitoid to get him to help the turtles. There was no time, it is not like he knew the turtles were gonna fail to stop the triceratons

*victory_angel* · 12-07-2015, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss

I'm confused how he contacted the fugitoid to get him to help the turtles. There was no time, it is not like he knew the turtles were gonna fail to stop the triceratons

I think he contacted the HoneyCutt before he contacted Turtles and told him to be on stand by. Then when his android body was destroyed, he probably contacted Honeycutt again, and told him to step in and rescue the Turtles and anyone with them to if things got disastrous.

Splinter the boss · 12-07-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

I think he contacted the HoneyCutt before he contacted Turtles and told him to be on stand by. Then when his android body was destroyed, he probably contacted Honeycutt again, and told him to step in and rescue the Turtles and anyone with them to if things got disastrous.

Got it, thank you.

10-02-2015, 04:18 PM	#24
Technogeek29 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville Posts: 1,486	I admit orignally I was hard on the character take at first, but I can see this working. Bishop is good (never really being evil actually) Just make him an extremist like the original while he wants to stop the Kraang, show he isn't above using others as a means to an end. Putting the Turtles in the dilemma of his intentions are good but his actions say otherwise. __________________

10-02-2015, 04:40 PM	#25
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I really like this incarnation of Bishop and the back story of what happened with the Kraang. There's always the possibility he could turn bad, so we can't rule that out. But for what he is now, I'm fine with it. I love that they brought the Utroms in. Now I hope we some Neutrinos next. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-04-2015, 04:42 AM	#26
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Evil Utrom Shredder exists. Good guy Bishop serving the same plot twist didn't bug me. The fact he becomes a benevolent world leader in 2k3's future helped. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

10-02-2015, 01:22 PM	#23
shinefra Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: México Posts: 273	Bishop was my favorite villain of the 2002 series, this one has no personality, he’s just another Krang model to save money on character design. I hope his character develops better with time.

10-04-2015, 08:46 AM	#27
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	Is anyone confused about how he knows that the Triceratons are coming?

10-05-2015, 11:19 PM	#29
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Again, it's not "lazy", it's using resources. They have budgetary restrictions & have to make moves wisely.

10-06-2015, 06:15 PM	#30
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I kinda like how Bishop is the origin of the Kraangs' clone android bodies. For the story plot, at least we saw Karai spitting out the memory worm so... did she remember? She's dead for now anyway.