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Old 09-29-2014, 11:27 PM   #1
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I'm all for this. I know it's another Donnie centered plot so people will complain, but I'm a Donnie fan, so I say go for it

As far as a dark turtle, it'd be cool to see dark Donnie, but I think it'd have to be more of a mind control brainwashing thing rather than shredder persuading him. Would be interesting though, as opposed to having dark Leo who's a threat physically, I could see dark Donnie building all these weapons and droids for shredder, and using them against his brothers
But I think at the same time, Donnie's feelings for April will be strong enough to withstand the brainwashing device. After all love is often viewed as a powerful emotion, and there are stories where someone is brainwashed to follow an enemy, but they are brought back by the strength of the love he/she has for their love interest. So brainwashed or not, he would conveniently forget to add April's DNA as art of the Retromutagen thing.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:34 PM   #2
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Ah, instead of going for Leo, Shredder going for Donnie? How refreshing.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:55 PM   #3
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Ah, instead of going for Leo, Shredder going for Donnie? How refreshing.
This I don't mind. It's nice to see the Shredder arcs being exclusive to Leonardo not be tradition much longer.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:10 PM   #4
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Can agree, wouldn't mind seeing the others have their own storylines with Shredder.

Unless I've forgotten something, I don't even get what this Shredder's deal is with Leo in the first place. Or is it simply that it is, as you mentioned, Warhorse, 'tradition'? I mean, he was so dead set on nearly destroying Leo in the finale, and then when the rest of them are right there on the other side of the bars and Raph is about to explode, Shredder's just "meh" and walks away. Come on, you're Shredder, you kinda hate all of them and those bars probably aren't much of a barrier for you?

The rest need their own personal vendettas on him after recent events.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:19 PM   #5
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Can agree, wouldn't mind seeing the others have their own storylines with Shredder.

Unless I've forgotten something, I don't even get what this Shredder's deal is with Leo in the first place. Or is it simply that it is, as you mentioned, Warhorse, 'tradition'? I mean, he was so dead set on nearly destroying Leo in the finale, and then when the rest of them are right there on the other side of the bars and Raph is about to explode, Shredder's just "meh" and walks away. Come on, you're Shredder, you kinda hate all of them and those bars probably aren't much of a barrier for you?

The rest need their own personal vendettas on him after recent events.
Well, with Shredder going after Leo, I took it as, that he knows Leo is Splinter's prized pupil, and more than likely, his favorite son. Shredder could probably see it in the way Leo fights compared to the other brothers. He's practically a Splinter jr. Then, it's also the fact that he is the leader of the group. It's a military tactic, get rid of the leader, creates chaos and confusion for the rest of the group.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:38 PM   #6
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Well, with Shredder going after Leo, I took it as, that he knows Leo is Splinter's prized pupil, and more than likely, his favorite son. Shredder could probably see it in the way Leo fights compared to the other brothers. He's practically a Splinter jr. Then, it's also the fact that he is the leader of the group. It's a military tactic, get rid of the leader, creates chaos and confusion for the rest of the group.
And going after him also caused Karai to fall into the vat of mutagen and since Shredder doesn't believe in personal responsibility, he blames Splinter and Leo.
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:22 AM   #7
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Don't forget that it was through Leo's persistence that Karai finally accepted the truth of her real father and completely rejected the Shredder. He probably also got a hint of Karai liking Leo since he knew she let him get away back in 'New Girl In Town'. Little wonder why he wanted Leo to suffer during the invasion.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:36 PM   #8
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I still wonder though if he can even use his normal retromutagen on perfected mutagen. Would he have to use perfected mutagen to create a retromutagen for the current set of Kraang mutants?
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:46 PM   #9
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And he can't easily cure Karai since her mutagen batch was "tainted" by Baxter Stockman.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:54 AM   #10
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Hmm, that's an interesting concept. I don't know if this will happen in the future, but I don't know if Shredder will do that right away. He might wait and see if the Kraang help him first, and if they don't, then he could always kidnap Donnie and force him to make it.
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:15 PM   #11
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I still wonder though if he can even use his normal retromutagen on perfected mutagen. Would he have to use perfected mutagen to create a retromutagen for the current set of Kraang mutants?
Good point, and it took quite a while for him to get it worked out the first time. Would April's DNA even be viable for use in it...
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:27 PM   #12
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I'd love to see this. You don't really see a lot of Shredder/Donnie interaction. I'd watch this arc if we got it.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:15 PM   #13
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Yeah, me, too. I think it would be awesome.
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