Have the Nick TMNT actually accomplished anything?

*Andrew NDB* · 02-14-2013, 04:01 PM

I was thinking about this the other day. Seems like every bad guy and mutant they've ever encountered is still very much on the loose and at large. Perhaps the Nick Turtles should cut their losses and just stay in the sewer from now on?

*Cure* · 02-14-2013, 04:06 PM

Then there'd be no show, dummy.

Irishmile · 02-14-2013, 04:07 PM

Sure they have not captured any baddies.. But

They saved April
Stopped a Mutagen bomb
Saved people from becoming plant food
Saved Murakami
Stopped rats from taking over the city
stopped mousers from stealing things

and ate pizza.

Gyt Kaliba · 02-14-2013, 04:09 PM

That and I'd argue that they've actually tried pretty hard to put down Snakeweed for good, but that guy's apparently pretty hard to kill. Even breaking him into a thousand pieces didn't work.

I mean, they could always try stabbing that exposed heart but...kid's show. Can't realistically expect that level of violence in it (I've honestly been pretty pleasantly surprised by how violent they have gotten with that character).

*snake* · 02-14-2013, 04:09 PM

Aren't they trying to build up to a league of villians kind of thing, if thats the case it's more fitting to have villians escape.

*CyberCubed* · 02-14-2013, 04:13 PM

They stopped the Worldwide Genome project, stopped a mutagen bomb, and saved April from the Kraang.

But...they're kids. Splinter is still teaching them and they have a lot to learn. This is the youngest they've even been portrayed after all.

*plastroncafe* · 02-14-2013, 04:17 PM

Aren't you usually the one who's against the idea of the Turtles being super heroes, Andrew?

*Jephael* · 02-14-2013, 04:20 PM

This is why I prefer more mainstream super heroes like Superman or Spider-Man. They can be seen by the public and actually manage to put the badguys in jail, which happened a little back in the original Ninja Turtles cartoon. But on this show they're always going up against mutants and aliens but the public is always left in the dark.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-14-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Aren't you usually the one who's against the idea of the Turtles being super heroes, Andrew?

Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.

*gobo* · 02-14-2013, 04:22 PM

I think what you're trying to get at is that the status quo is nearly identical in every ep.

Gyt Kaliba · 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.

Funny, since they're doing a pretty good job of keeping in the shadows away from prying eyes, and are practicing actual (apparently anyway) martial arts katas in their training all the time...but then again, I'm getting the feeling you just wanted to gripe about the show here anyway.

*CyberCubed* · 02-14-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

This is why I prefer more mainstream super heroes like Superman or Spider-Man. They can be seen by the public and actually manage to put the badguys in jail, which happened a little back in the original Ninja Turtles cartoon. But on this show they're always going up against mutants and aliens but the public is always left in the dark.

That's actually why I prefer TMNT. Even in the OT they would hide and run as soon as the cops came and didn't want to be recognized by the general public.

*Donatello19* · 02-14-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.

Are you kidding me? How are they not ninjas? If you want to see turtles that aren't ninjas, go watch the OT.

*plastroncafe* · 02-14-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.

Aww muffin. How are those sour grapes of yours tasting?

*snake* · 02-14-2013, 04:39 PM

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Are you kidding me? How are they not ninjas? If you want to see turtles that aren't ninjas, go watch the OT.

Exactly, they didn't care about not being seen, and didn't Leonardo go to a gym or fitness center in one episode

*Andrew NDB* · 02-14-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Are you kidding me? How are they not ninjas?

They pull their punches. "Non-killing ninjas" is an oxymoron. It's fine because it's a children's show and the entertainment factor as such is high... but let's call a spade a spade.

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if you want to see turtles that aren't ninjas, go watch the OT.

Why would I want to go and do something horrible like that?

*NinjaMan* · 02-14-2013, 05:07 PM

Andrew I asked this as an honest question. What would you do if in charge? This a cartoon for kids. They can't kill everything they fight or else there would be no show. So tell me, what would you do to a kids show on a kids channel?

*CyberCubed* · 02-14-2013, 05:08 PM

I believe this argument is more suited for the IDW turtles. They haven't accomplished much either and don't kill when they should.

At least the cartoons have the, "it's for kids" excuse.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-14-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaMan

Andrew I asked this as an honest question. What would you do if in charge? This a cartoon for kids. They can't kill everything they fight or else there would be no show. So tell me, what would you do to a kids show on a kids channel?

My point is that every single threat they've encountered is still out there -- they resolve nothing. If somehow a threat was captured, or imprisoned, or their mutation reversed or something... but every time with everything from "Snakeweed" all the way to "Justin," it goes down exactly the same way: big fight, the Turtles win, and the bad guy escapes into the shadows.

Why even bother then, right?

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I believe this argument is more suited for the IDW turtles. They haven't accomplished much either and don't kill when they should.

At least the cartoons have the, "it's for kids" excuse.

Hm... you do have a point there.

*Donatello19* · 02-14-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

My point is that every single threat they've encountered is still out there -- they resolve nothing. If somehow a threat was captured, or imprisoned, or their mutation reversed or something... but every time with everything from "Snakeweed" all the way to "Justin," it goes down exactly the same way: big fight, the Turtles win, and the bad guy escapes into the shadows.

Why even bother then, right?

Hm... you do have a point there.

Well what exactly do you expect them to do about it?

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Irishmile Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 331	Sure they have not captured any baddies.. But They saved April Stopped a Mutagen bomb Saved people from becoming plant food Saved Murakami Stopped rats from taking over the city stopped mousers from stealing things and ate pizza. __________________

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Gyt Kaliba Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 770	That and I'd argue that they've actually tried pretty hard to put down Snakeweed for good, but that guy's apparently pretty hard to kill. Even breaking him into a thousand pieces didn't work. I mean, they could always try stabbing that exposed heart but...kid's show. Can't realistically expect that level of violence in it (I've honestly been pretty pleasantly surprised by how violent they have gotten with that character). __________________ My FanFiction

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Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	This is why I prefer more mainstream super heroes like Superman or Spider-Man. They can be seen by the public and actually manage to put the badguys in jail, which happened a little back in the original Ninja Turtles cartoon. But on this show they're always going up against mutants and aliens but the public is always left in the dark. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

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snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Aren't they trying to build up to a league of villians kind of thing, if thats the case it's more fitting to have villians escape.

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	They stopped the Worldwide Genome project, stopped a mutagen bomb, and saved April from the Kraang. But...they're kids. Splinter is still teaching them and they have a lot to learn. This is the youngest they've even been portrayed after all.

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gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I think what you're trying to get at is that the status quo is nearly identical in every ep. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

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NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Andrew I asked this as an honest question. What would you do if in charge? This a cartoon for kids. They can't kill everything they fight or else there would be no show. So tell me, what would you do to a kids show on a kids channel?

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I believe this argument is more suited for the IDW turtles. They haven't accomplished much either and don't kill when they should. At least the cartoons have the, "it's for kids" excuse.