Teenage mutant hero turtles?

[snake]

Originally Posted by Discogod

A grappling hook.

That's nuts! Did they at least put care into editing it or did it look like someone pasted it there?

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by snakeweed101

That's nuts! Did they at least put care into editing it or did it look like someone pasted it there?

I think there's a bit of a mix up. They did not paste anything into the Hero Turtles episodes. Mike still had his nunchuks it was just certain instances were he actualy used them in battle that was edited out.

The grappling hook was what replaced Mike's nunchuks in the actual US made show when it moved channels to CBS in Season 4 onwards.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I think there's a bit of a mix up. They did not paste anything into the Hero Turtles episodes. Mike still had his nunchuks it was just certain instances were he actualy used them in battle that was edited out.

The grappling hook was what replaced Mike's nunchuks in the actual US made show when it moved channels to CBS in Season 4 onwards.

Oh, I thought he had them season 9, but alright then.

[jmfoxfire]

Originally Posted by grungethemovie

if you think about it, Don's bo should have been censored too, it was damn easy to get the stick out of mom's broom and break things all around, oh yeah!

i used to make don's bo back in the day

[Andrew NDB]

I think pretty much all TMNT incarnations save for the Mirage material should go by the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtle moniker. They're really not ninjas in anything but that.

[rpd123]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think pretty much all TMNT incarnations save for the Mirage material should go by the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtle moniker. They're really not ninjas in anything but that.

You do have a point. Mirage Turtles are the only incarnations that behave like real ninjas. Yeah in the rest they train as ninjas and say they're ninjas, but that doesn't make it so.

[Keroscene]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I hate how they did that cause of the UK. It's like, it's an American cartoon for US. If you can't take it, make your own UK action show and leave out show alone It would be like skipping out the shower scenes out of anime shows shown in Japan because American audiences can't take it.

Umm... the BBC had to edit the cartoons because if they hadn't, there would have been even more of an uproar over something perceived as "violent" being shown to kids. And that controversy over violence wasn't restricted to the UK. Don't blame us, blame the ridiculous attitude that people had towards children's shows in the 80s (in America as well as here). I doubt the BBC had either the power or the inclination to force anyone into putting in grappling hooks. (Incidentally, TMHT was aired all over Europe, not just in the UK).

If the people making the show decided to take European sensibilities into account, maybe it's because we were watching it, buying the merchandise and contributing just as much as anyone else. It's not YOUR cartoon any more than anyone elses. Also, I would be amazed if animes are never ever cut on US television. LOADS of stuff gets cut in all countries.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think pretty much all TMNT incarnations save for the Mirage material should go by the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtle moniker. They're really not ninjas in anything but that.

The man does have a point!

[bwwd]

haha arent 2 swords more leathal than 2 sticks on a chain?
Uk is full of hypocrites in media, they pretend they protect kids from bad nunchucks and ninjas but they also airing in news info about woman being stabbed with knife 14 times yeah, they love to give out details like this on radio shows.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think pretty much all TMNT incarnations save for the Mirage material should go by the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtle moniker. They're really not ninjas in anything but that.

Mirage Turtles didnt act like Ninjas for donkeys years after a short while either. Love how you play "selective memory" where that's concerned.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Love how you play "selective memory" where that's concerned.

Dude, why does Andrew's opinion upset you so much? Life's too short to bellyache over such trivial nonsense!

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Keroscene

Also, I would be amazed if animes are never ever cut on US television. LOADS of stuff gets cut in all countries.

I think you missed the point. TMNT was an American cartoon meant for American audiences, so if Europe doesn't like, too bad for them. Of course anime gets cut in the US, but anime was made for Japanese audiences in the first place so when they bring it here cuts and edits have to be made. However the point I'm trying to make is, we don't see anime in Japan being drawn a certain way or changed for American audiences in mind. They just do what they do in their country and let the American censors deal with it whenever they decide to dub it here. Instead of them giving Mike a different weapon, they should have kept it as is and let the European censors deal with it.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I think you missed the point. TMNT was an American cartoon meant for American audiences, so if Europe doesn't like, too bad for them. Of course anime gets cut in the US, but anime was made for Japanese audiences in the first place so when they bring it here cuts and edits have to be made. However the point I'm trying to make is, we don't see anime in Japan being drawn a certain way or changed for American audiences in mind. They just do what they do in their country and let the American censors deal with it whenever they decide to dub it here. Instead of them giving Mike a different weapon, they should have kept it as is and let the European censors deal with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQAQohS0On4

[Keroscene]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I think you missed the point. TMNT was an American cartoon meant for American audiences, so if Europe doesn't like, too bad for them.

No I think you've missed the point. American cartoons are not made exclusively for American audiences. That hasn't been the case in decades. The 87 cartoon never would have bothered with the grappling hooks if that European audience wasn't a significant factor in the show's success. Britain, Ireland, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Poland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland all aired the TMHT versions of those cartoons - if the grappling hooks were really a way to placate European networks (rather than a way to placate angry US parents, which is just as likely) then it was because those audiences were just as important as the US audiences.

Do you really think people making American cartoons don't expect them to be shown elsewhere and plan accordingly? It's ridiculous arrogance to think that the US audience is the only audience anyone could or should give a damn about.

[Keroscene]

Originally Posted by bwwd

haha arent 2 swords more leathal than 2 sticks on a chain?
Uk is full of hypocrites in media, they pretend they protect kids from bad nunchucks and ninjas but they also airing in news info about woman being stabbed with knife 14 times yeah, they love to give out details like this on radio shows.

1) People weren't using katanas in street gangs in the UK in the 1980s, that's why they weren't edited out.

2) People get stabbed to death everywhere, if it's more likely to be reported in the UK that's probably because it's considered a bigger deal.

3) What the hell does one thing have to do with the other anyway? Editing out the nunchuks was probably pointless and misguided, but so what? It says nothing at all about UK society or about what "hypocrites" we supposedly are. Anyone can pick two unrelated events in any random society and say "there you go, everyone in that country is a hypocrite." But it's nonsense, because unless the same people who stabbed someone to death are the people who were demanding that nunchuks be edited out of cartoons in the 1980s, you may as well be comparing Russians and Australians.

[Discogod]

Originally Posted by Keroscene

It's ridiculous arrogance to think that the US audience is the only audience anyone could or should give a damn about.

Yes, but that's a typically American attitude...

[Ryanator008]

Originally Posted by Discogod

Yes, but that's a typically American attitude...

Let's stop this country discrimination and get back on topic.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Ryanator008

Let's stop this country discrimination and get back on topic.

How about YOU stop being a mod.

[rpd123]

Originally Posted by snakeweed101

How about YOU stop being a mod.

....He's trying to get the thread on topic and stop it from being a pissing contest between different countries. But you're right, how dare he!?

[Keroscene]

Originally Posted by Discogod

Yes, but that's a typically American attitude...

I don't think it is, I think there are people in every country who are prone to self-aggrandizing their own nations, it's not about Americans acting one way or another, it's about certain individuals within various nations.

But I don't want to start some kind of nationalistic rivalry flamewar, so I'll shut up now.