Michael Bay Says "We're Not" Making The Turtles Aliens & That Its "The Ooze"

[chrisdude]

No reason to think Schrader was Japanese.

[zodiac brave]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We also don't want a white Caucasian playing a Japanese man.

Who's "we"? You don't speak for anyone other than yourself, kid.

And krang's not in the movie.

get the **** over it, already.

[CyberCubed]

Why would they make Shredder into an entirely different character?

This is one of the most iconic comic book villains of all time. They would be shooting themselves in the foot.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by zodiac brave

Who's "we"? You don't speak for anyone other than yourself, kid.

And krang's not in the movie.

get the **** over it, already.

Krang was in the leaked script.

How do you know Krang isn't being used?

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We also don't want a white Caucasian playing a Japanese man.

I can not wait till they reveal that Arnett is playing Schrader, just so I can watch your reactions.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TurtleTron

I can not wait till they reveal that Arnett is playing Schrader, just so I can watch your reactions.

I imagine the backlash over the Internet will be far greater than anything on this one forum.

It's just as bad as the Turtles being aliens. Shredder being a white general who is also an alien?

[ironman29758]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I imagine the backlash over the Internet will be far greater than anything on this one forum.

It's just as bad as the Turtles being aliens. Shredder being a white general who is also an alien?

Agreed. It was bad enough the 2K3 show did that but the script took it way farther then they needed to. That is one part I do not want repeated anywhere else honestly.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We also don't want a white Caucasian playing a Japanese man.

I agree with this.

I want a half-black, half-samoan guy playing a character that was Japanese in the source material.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I imagine the backlash over the Internet will be far greater than anything on this one forum.

It's just as bad as the Turtles being aliens. Shredder being a white general who is also an alien?

Uh. I don't know if you noticed, but Colonel Schrader and alien turtles were both in that leaked script. That backlash already came, and it was totally overshadowed by alien turtles.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Uh. I don't know if you noticed, but Colonel Schrader and alien turtles were both in that leaked script. That backlash already came, and it was totally overshadowed by alien turtles.

Yes but now the alien issue is over and people can focus on Shredder.

From what I can tell, this Shredder is a white human general who leads a military army, rather than being a Japanese man who leads an army of ninja's. And somehow Colonel Shrader is also an alien who has blades come out of his skin too? The hell?

It might as well be a new character entirely instead of Shredder.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yes but now the alien issue is over and people can focus on Shredder.

From what I can tell, this Shredder is a white human general who leads a military army, rather than being a Japanese man who leads an army of ninja's. And somehow Colonel Shrader is also an alien who has blades come out of his skin too? The hell?

It might as well be a new character entirely instead of Shredder.

That's... why... his name is Schrader, and not Shredder. Because he's not Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

That's... why... his name is Schrader, and not Shredder. Because he's not Shredder.

His name is based on Shredder because the "real" Shredder isn't in the movie. He and the Foot Clan have been replaced by bizarre substitutes that make no sense.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

His name is based on Shredder because the "real" Shredder isn't in the movie. He and the Foot Clan have been replaced by bizarre substitutes that make no sense.

I hear you. I'm just not sure this would bother people more than generic names like Colonel Jordan and Unit 12. We'd all be like, "Who are these nobody villains? They're just fighting the military?"

Maybe the plan wasn't, "How do we change Shredder?" Perhaps they knew they wanted to use military antagonists, and asked, "How can we give a nod to the fans?"

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

I hear you. I'm just not sure this would bother people more than generic names like Colonel Jordan and Unit 12. We'd all be like, "Who are these nobody villains? They're just fighting the military?"

Maybe the plan wasn't, "How do we change Shredder?" Perhaps they knew they wanted to use military antagonists, and asked, "How can we give a nod to the fans?"

But it makes no sense not to use Shredder but use some weird sounding name and change it to a totally different character.

Not sure how they plan to tie this into Splinter's/Yoshi's backstory either if they don't go the Japanese route. The Turtles/Splinter's ties to Shredder and the Foot is the whole backbone of the origin story in every incarnation.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

I want a half-black, half-samoan guy playing a character that was Japanese in the source material.

And lets make him gay and a blender too.

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Maybe the plan wasn't, "How do we change Shredder?" Perhaps they knew they wanted to use military antagonists, and asked, "How can we give a nod to the fans?"

Than they should've used Bishop or General Krang.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

But it makes no sense not to use Shredder but use some weird sounding name and change it to a totally different character.

Not sure how they plan to tie this into Splinter's/Yoshi's backstory either if they don't go the Japanese route. The Turtles/Splinter's ties to Shredder and the Foot is the whole backbone of the origin story in every incarnation.

It's like you didnt read what i suggested.

It does make sense if your intention was never to use Shredder, in the first place. No backstory with Splinter, no ninja clan, no ties to the origin story. Just a military unit. What I'm suggesting is that they decided to make the military the antagonists. And then they decided, "Hey, why don't we make the Colonel a nod to Shredder? We'll name him something that kinda sounds like Shredder, and give him blades like Shredder used to wear. They'll get a kick out of that!"

Just like Dark Knight Rises

Spoiler:

I didn't hear anybody saying, "Why'd they make Robin into a cop? He's supposed to be an acrobat! He doesn't have have Robin's backstory! Why did they name him Robin instead of Dick Grayson!"
No. Because everyone understood that naming him Robin was just a nod, not a revamped character.

Originally Posted by Xav

Than they should've used Bishop or General Krang.

Man, I don't even know Bishop. At least a Shredder nod is generation-proof.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Just like Dark Knight Rises

Spoiler:

I didn't hear anybody saying, "Why'd they make Robin into a cop? He's supposed to be an acrobat! He doesn't have have Robin's backstory! Why did they name him Robin instead of Dick Grayson!"
No. Because everyone understood that naming him Robin was just a nod, not a revamped character.

Spoiler:

Everyone I know thinks he's supposed to be Robin "the boy wonder." Even though it was made clear that he was supposed to take the mantle of Batman, which I still find extremely stupid.

Even then, people like that seem to be in the majority, because they're not "hardcore" fans of Batman. They don't look at The Dark Knight like most of us do here, and nitpick every little damn thing. They see a familar character in a movie that appeals to their taste and call it a day.

Just look at the Transformers movies, I'm sure they pissed off the fans of the franchise, but everyone else seemed pretty okay with them. Hell, I'm one of those people. I didn't even like Transformers, but I still gave the movie a shot and I admit, I did enjoy it.

[slaysghosts]

wow. You just admitted you liked a Michael Bay film in thetechnodrome.com forums.........good luck w/ the forthcoming posts..........

[zkarlette]

Originally Posted by slaysghosts

wow. You just admitted you liked a Michael Bay film in thetechnodrome.com forums.........good luck w/ the forthcoming posts..........

did he say he didn't like Transformers?...

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Xav

And lets make him gay too.

God forbid we have gays in the movie. How offensive an idea.