IDW doesn't plan on collecting the Image books?! - Page 2

LH · 05-03-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mgambino

I agree that it wasn't pointless, but it was cancelled before reaching any kind of satisfying conclusion. That being said, I really hope they collect it because I think it was the most unique of any of the Turtle runs.

It actually recieved a conclusion with two issues that were never released officially, but were written by Andrew Modeen with help from Gary Carlson. Kevin Eastman, Frank Fosco, AC Farley, Dan Berger, and Jim Lawson all worked on it as well. You can download them here and here.

mgambino · 05-03-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Leatherhead (2012)

It actually recieved a conclusion with two issues that were never released officially, but were written by Andrew Modeen with help from Gary Carlson. Kevin Eastman, Frank Fosco, AC Farley, Dan Berger, and Jim Lawson all worked on it as well. You can download them here and here.

Huh... that's pretty damn cool. I stand corrected.

I'm a bit conflicted though. One one hand, it's pretty cool to see where to story was supposed to go. On the other hand, it just pisses me off all over again that we didn't get at least 10 more issues.

LH · 05-03-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mgambino

Huh... that's pretty damn cool. I stand corrected.

I'm a bit conflicted though. One one hand, it's pretty cool to see where to story was supposed to go. On the other hand, it just pisses me off all over again that we didn't get at least 10 more issues.

Yeah.. I was just happy to see...

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*ToTheNines* · 05-03-2013, 03:18 PM

I bet they'll get to it eventually, if TMNT remains popular enough. I'd imagine they just list Tales V.2 and, eventually, TMNT Volume 4 higher on their priorities.

That being said, I think this is bullsh*t.

*CyberCubed* · 05-03-2013, 03:20 PM

I think Image will come right after Volume 2 is collected.

Volume 4 isn't even finished yet so I'm sure its the last thing they'll bother with.

Klunk · 05-03-2013, 03:47 PM

I kinda hope they don't release it any time soon. It makes my complete set including #1 variant and 2 issue conclusion more valuable (even though the 2 issue conclusion won't be included.

What is the big bang #10 about?

*Andrew NDB* · 05-03-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Klunk

I kinda hope they don't release it any time soon. It makes my complete set including #1 variant and 2 issue conclusion more valuable (even though the 2 issue conclusion won't be included.

What is the big bang #10 about?

http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2009/...comics-10.html

*CyberCubed* · 05-03-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Klunk

I kinda hope they don't release it any time soon. It makes my complete set including #1 variant and 2 issue conclusion more valuable (even though the 2 issue conclusion won't be included.

What is the big bang #10 about?

That doesn't make any sense. Trades don't decrease the value of individual issues.

A single issue can sell for more on eBay than a trade of 5 issues will.

Klunk · 05-03-2013, 08:01 PM

yes, but when there are no complete trades out there, that means all of the original, single issues are worth more since there is no other way to collect them all.

*Allio* · 05-03-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It didn't end with a cliffhanger at all nor was it pointless.

by cliff hanger, I mean it didn't have an ending

and by pointless, I meant it is pointless in me picking it up if it isn't complete

*CyberCubed* · 05-03-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio

by cliff hanger, I mean it didn't have an ending

and by pointless, I meant it is pointless in me picking it up if it isn't complete

It had an ending. Issue #23 has the Turtles making peace with Pimiko and deciding to go after Lady Shredder.

JMMedia · 05-19-2013, 11:59 PM

Cool that you have those but
1) I run a comic shop and a very successful online business and I PROMISE you that, if anything, a TPB announcement will spike the issues prices, and with movie hype over the next few years, the books will be at their highest value. If you're not planning to sell at that point, you'll miss your best shot.
2) not cool bro. These books should be available for all TMNT fans to enjoy and judge for themselves. I know you're just messin' around though!

Rat_King · 05-20-2013, 06:47 AM

Erik Larson told me at New York comic con last year that if they'd been allowed to finish the story they would have had everything wrapped up within two to three more issues. He was quite irritated by it. I think they should blow all of our minds and give Erik the opportunity to do said issues. Wether it be printing the individual issues or just printing them exclusively in the trade I think a lot of us would buy them.

*Powder* · 05-20-2013, 05:04 PM

Well the finisher we got through Andrew is essentially what we would have gotten through Image (though with a much different art style). After all, Gary handed over all of his old notes for how things would go. I would definitely rather see it re-drawn by Frank if it were to see print, though. The covers are keepers, however.

*CyberCubed* · 05-20-2013, 05:48 PM

Erik Larsen doesn't know what happened in Volume 4 though.

Matches Malone · 05-20-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Well the finisher we got through Andrew is essentially what we would have gotten through Image (though with a much different art style). After all, Gary handed over all of his old notes for how things would go. I would definitely rather see it re-drawn by Frank if it were to see print, though. The covers are keepers, however.

While that's true, I still think the end result would have been significantly different. Andrew did an admirable job, but we're talking about a whole different creative team with different styles. Plus, while Andrew did utilize Gary's notes, there were definitely changes and adaptations to suit his preferences (like Lady Shredder being changed from Karai to someone else) and all the bridging of Image to Volume 4. Nothing wrong with that, just saying there are notable probable differences.

*Powder* · 05-20-2013, 09:30 PM

I did say essentially, meaning pretty similar. Same groundwork. Lady Shredder wasn't going to be Karai, by the way.

*ToTheNines* · 05-21-2013, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

I did say essentially, meaning pretty similar. Same groundwork. Lady Shredder wasn't going to be Karai, by the way.

Almost positive Gary Carlson said she was, somewhere. (After a Google search, this is the best reference I could find: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...34&postcount=7).

Either way... Lady Shredder certainly wasn't going to turn out to be Tang Amaya/Headhunter had they wrapped it all up in the 90's.

*Powder* · 05-21-2013, 01:38 PM

More recently I had read (or heard) through Andrew (?) that Gary said he was positive it was not going to be Karai, though he couldn't recall what his exact plans were. Andrew can you verify that or am I imagining things? I swear I remember this...

DK2 · 05-22-2013, 11:45 PM

I'm sure they'll get around to Vol. 3 run in TPB's one day (hopefully more than 4 issues at a time). I can't see any of the Image creators/characters being too much of an issue. Its not like those characters are really hot and famous. I'm sure some minimal payment from IDW to the three Image guys would do. I mean if Dave Sim (basing this on my memory of Sim's youtube video) gets $500 for everytime TMNT Ultimate Collection Book 2 gets another printing (plus free IDW HC/TPB's of his choice), these Image guys must be getting something way smaller. Or they may be too proud and just let the darn material be reprinted for free. Who knows? Can't see it being something that prevents it from being reprinted. Or they can go the like the first Transformers Marvel trades IDW did and just skip those issues with some detailed summary. But Image characters were in the series alot more than a per issue appearance at times so that might not work out well (is my memory off?).

05-03-2013, 03:18 PM	#24
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,070	I bet they'll get to it eventually, if TMNT remains popular enough. I'd imagine they just list Tales V.2 and, eventually, TMNT Volume 4 higher on their priorities. That being said, I think this is bullsh*t.

05-03-2013, 03:20 PM	#25
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,712	I think Image will come right after Volume 2 is collected. Volume 4 isn't even finished yet so I'm sure its the last thing they'll bother with.

05-03-2013, 03:47 PM	#26
Klunk Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	I kinda hope they don't release it any time soon. It makes my complete set including #1 variant and 2 issue conclusion more valuable (even though the 2 issue conclusion won't be included. What is the big bang #10 about?

05-03-2013, 08:01 PM	#29
Klunk Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	yes, but when there are no complete trades out there, that means all of the original, single issues are worth more since there is no other way to collect them all.

05-19-2013, 11:59 PM	#32
JMMedia Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 33	Cool that you have those but 1) I run a comic shop and a very successful online business and I PROMISE you that, if anything, a TPB announcement will spike the issues prices, and with movie hype over the next few years, the books will be at their highest value. If you're not planning to sell at that point, you'll miss your best shot. 2) not cool bro. These books should be available for all TMNT fans to enjoy and judge for themselves. I know you're just messin' around though!

05-20-2013, 06:47 AM	#33
Rat_King Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Crown Point, IN Posts: 300	Erik Larson told me at New York comic con last year that if they'd been allowed to finish the story they would have had everything wrapped up within two to three more issues. He was quite irritated by it. I think they should blow all of our minds and give Erik the opportunity to do said issues. Wether it be printing the individual issues or just printing them exclusively in the trade I think a lot of us would buy them.

05-20-2013, 05:04 PM	#34
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Well the finisher we got through Andrew is essentially what we would have gotten through Image (though with a much different art style). After all, Gary handed over all of his old notes for how things would go. I would definitely rather see it re-drawn by Frank if it were to see print, though. The covers are keepers, however.

05-20-2013, 05:48 PM	#35
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,712	Erik Larsen doesn't know what happened in Volume 4 though.

05-20-2013, 09:30 PM	#37
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	I did say essentially, meaning pretty similar. Same groundwork. Lady Shredder wasn't going to be Karai, by the way.

05-21-2013, 01:38 PM	#39
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	More recently I had read (or heard) through Andrew (?) that Gary said he was positive it was not going to be Karai, though he couldn't recall what his exact plans were. Andrew can you verify that or am I imagining things? I swear I remember this...

05-22-2013, 11:45 PM	#40
DK2 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 621	I'm sure they'll get around to Vol. 3 run in TPB's one day (hopefully more than 4 issues at a time). I can't see any of the Image creators/characters being too much of an issue. Its not like those characters are really hot and famous. I'm sure some minimal payment from IDW to the three Image guys would do. I mean if Dave Sim (basing this on my memory of Sim's youtube video) gets $500 for everytime TMNT Ultimate Collection Book 2 gets another printing (plus free IDW HC/TPB's of his choice), these Image guys must be getting something way smaller. Or they may be too proud and just let the darn material be reprinted for free. Who knows? Can't see it being something that prevents it from being reprinted. Or they can go the like the first Transformers Marvel trades IDW did and just skip those issues with some detailed summary. But Image characters were in the series alot more than a per issue appearance at times so that might not work out well (is my memory off?).