Will Arnett Joins Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

[ledahead]

Vernon in the new movie doesn't have to be silly. Will Arnett is hilarious and they can adapt the Vernon character to his style of humor and it can still be a good movie.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by ledahead

Vernon in the new movie doesn't have to be silly. Will Arnett is hilarious and they can adapt the Vernon character to his style of humor and it can still be a good movie.

Well its not like Arnett is known for sophisticated humour and obviously we are going to get some of Vernon's personality in there but for the most part I agree with this.

However I don't see why we should be quick to assume is this a good thing?

In all likelihood Arnett wasn't cast as Vernon but simply cast as a comic relief character and the writers may have vaguely remembered or looked into the suitable existing characters and went with Vernon as the character that would best "fit" with what they wanted (and to be fair I think it does).

I don't think anyone is really excited about Vernon being in the movie but rather the fact they think that the inclusion of the character people think it will be inspired by the Fred Wolf show and that does excite a certain section of the fanbase. The irony being is that I feel the same line of thinking I feel the creators went with including Vernon I believe also applies to any element of the Fred Wolf show. I think it's fair to hope for Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady but I highly doubt they'll be a modern take on these characters and tropes as much as Bay's own stuff wearing a Fred Wolf show inspired skin.

[xChri5x]

Does no one here like Arrested Development!? GOSH!

[Vi11AiN6]

I love Arrested Development and GOB is hands down my favorite character...

[zodiac brave]

COME ON!

[NYShell]

Originally Posted by xChri5x

Does no one here like Arrested Development!? GOSH!

Just started watching it. Finished season 1. Its pretty funny

[Welmanshire]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Well its not like Arnett is known for sophisticated humour and obviously we are going to get some of Vernon's personality in there but for the most part I agree with this.

However I don't see why we should be quick to assume is this a good thing?

In all likelihood Arnett wasn't cast as Vernon but simply cast as a comic relief character and the writers may have vaguely remembered or looked into the suitable existing characters and went with Vernon as the character that would best "fit" with what they wanted (and to be fair I think it does).

I don't think anyone is really excited about Vernon being in the movie but rather the fact they think that the inclusion of the character people think it will be inspired by the Fred Wolf show and that does excite a certain section of the fanbase. The irony being is that I feel the same line of thinking I feel the creators went with including Vernon I believe also applies to any element of the Fred Wolf show. I think it's fair to hope for Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady but I highly doubt they'll be a modern take on these characters and tropes as much as Bay's own stuff wearing a Fred Wolf show inspired skin.

I think you will find that they would have written the character into the script before casting Arrnett. I will tell you right now, these people are banking on the nostalgia value of this franchise so having Vernon, Irma and Burnie in the film were definitely not afterthoughts.

Originally Posted by xChri5x

Does no one here like Arrested Development!? GOSH!

Long time fan. I just finished the forth season. It was pretty good, apart from Porta DiRossi. She looked like she had had soooo much plastic surgery. Are they still making the movie?

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Welmanshire

I think you will find that they would have written the character into the script before casting Arrnett. I will tell you right now, these people are banking on the nostalgia value of this franchise so having Vernon, Irma and Burnie in the film were definitely not afterthoughts.

I'm pretty sure that the target demographic for the movie is not people that are bordering both sides of thirty. If anything we're the nice little earner on top of the real moneymakers in younger people but when it comes down to it I doubt we are people they are going to overly concern themselves with just like with the Transformers and G.I. Joe movies didn't.

If they are shooting for nostalgia then surely they are not going about this in the best way. Seriously Vernon Fenwick? Is this a character that's going to get anyone hyped? Was anyone just dying to see Vernon again? The vast majority of fans that grew up with the '87 show would only vaguely remember him and while I'm sure he has one or two fans (though I've yet to encounter them) even amongst diehard fans he's not someone that is really widely liked or even discussed.

There's little doubt in my mind they wanted Will Arnett in a lead comedy role and that they looked around for suitable characters that could somewhat "fit" (though Vernon was never a lead).

Same with Whoopi Goldberg except there was no character that she could play so they heavily altered one. They didn't want Burne Thompson, they wanted Whoopi.

They want to get fans of the 80s series excited. How about hinting at Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, Slash etc Not the Channel Six News Crew.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Galactus

If they are shooting for nostalgia then surely they are not going about this in the best way. Seriously Vernon Fenwick? Is this a character that's going to get anyone hyped? Was anyone just dying to see Vernon again? The vast majority of fans that grew up with the '87 show would only vaguely remember him and while I'm sure he has one or two fans (though I've yet to encounter them) even amongst diehard fans he's not someone that is really widely liked or even discussed.

Are you being serious? The Channel 6 news crew was a tremendously popular aspect of the original toon and Vernon was popular because he was so sneaky and mean to April but always got what was coming to him.

While I didn't have any desire to see him return in a new version, how can you possibly not think the Channel 6 news crew wasn't popular? If April had no co-workers nobody would have cared about Channel 6 as much.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Are you being serious? The Channel 6 news crew was a tremendously popular aspect of the original toon and Vernon was popular because he was so sneaky and mean to April but always got what was coming to him.

While I didn't have any desire to see him return in a new version, how can you possibly not think the Channel 6 news crew wasn't popular? If April had no co-workers nobody would have cared about Channel 6 as much.

They really weren't. Of all of them Irma seemed to be the most standout and remembered and liked by fans that liked the show.

When all the Fred Wolf fans got upset at the 4Kids show for not being like the one they grew up with the complaints were always lack of Bebop, Rocksteady and that they "turned the Shredder into Krang" etc. I never heard anyone complain about the lack of the Happy Hour News Crew.

Go down to the actual live action movies, most of which were well recieved but to this day some people still express disapointment we got Tokka and Rahzar instead of Bebop and Rocksteady. I've never heard anyone complain that it was Charlse Pennington and not Burne Thompson.

[NYShell]

Yeah, Galactus I agree. I don't think Vernon is a character that's supposed to get everyone hyped.

[ledahead]

To me, Irma is the most annoying of the channel 6 crew and I thought fans disliked her the most.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Galactus

They really weren't. Of all of them Irma seemed to be the most standout and remembered and liked by fans that liked the show.

When all the Fred Wolf fans got upset at the 4Kids show for not being like the one they grew up with the complaints were always lack of Bebop, Rocksteady and that they "turned the Shredder into Krang" etc. I never heard anyone complain about the lack of the Happy Hour News Crew.

Go down to the actual live action movies, most of which were well recieved but to this day some people still express disapointment we got Tokka and Rahzar instead of Bebop and Rocksteady. I've never heard anyone complain that it was Charlse Pennington and not Burne Thompson.

April wasn't a reporter in 4kids, of course nobody expected those characters to return. Irma, Vernon and Burne were very popular with OT fans, why do you think the writers used them so much in the first place? They were in almost every episode.

[NinjaPug]

I thought the Channel 6 crew was the worst part of the OT.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I thought the Channel 6 crew was the worst part of the OT.

They were the best source of comedy in the series after the Turtles and villains. Irma and Vernon were always funny and Burne had his charm as a boss.

[NinjaPug]

That's your opinion. I never liked them. Found all of them annoying instead of funny.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

That's your opinion. I never liked them. Found all of them annoying instead of funny.

The humor was very witty. All of Vernon's scenes were amusing to the audience and to his dispense.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by ledahead

To me, Irma is the most annoying of the channel 6 crew and I thought fans disliked her the most.

Her name seems to pop up a fair amount in discussion of characters they'd like to see again and the fact that people generaly remember her name would put her ahead of most of the Channel 6 crew.

I think a lot of that is down to the fact that she actualy had a few episodes that were actualy about her or featured her prominently. "Attack of the 50 Foot Irma", "Green With Jealousy", "The Turtle Terminator". "Four Musketurtles" etc

She does seem to have a cult following within the fandom too. Mainly of fans that like to ship romances and the Hentai crowd etc.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

April wasn't a reporter in 4kids, of course nobody expected those characters to return. Irma, Vernon and Burne were very popular with OT fans, why do you think the writers used them so much in the first place? They were in almost every episode.

That is another thing fans of the Fred Wolf show moaned about with the 4Kids show. Hypotheticaly if she had been I don't think people would have moaned about the lack of a Channel 6 crew. I cite the fact that no one moans about their absence/replacement in the live action movies as evidence.

The last two seasons of the 87 show gets a lot of flack but it's generaly centered on replacing Shredder and Krang as primary villains, the secondary mutations than the absence of Vernon and co.

I'd argue the fact that these characters were in show so much but not as well remembered as characters like Slash or Leatherhead or The Rat King should be a signal at which characters the movie should focus on.

They were the best source of comedy in the series after the Turtles and villains. Irma and Vernon were always funny and Burne had his charm as a boss.

That's a bit like saying the were the best source of comedy after every other regular characters which could also translate to them being the least funny of all the regulars

Seriously though I'm not objecting to the presence of the Happy Hour News team merely pointing out they shouldn't be given the boosted role the apparently have been given. There's also questionmark on whether these characters will be the movie's focus above the turtles and antogonists.

Also another worry is if this is inspired by the Fred Wolf show and the C6 workers are a big part then will teh the turtles be public knowledge. I think that's one aspect of the show I think most fans would prefer stayed there.

[CyberCubed]

I recall Vernon having a huge fanbase that someone made a fansite to him back in 1997 which was when the OT just went off the air. It was an old Geocities site back when we were in the Next Mutation era.

Do I want to see the Channel 6 news crew return? I don't think they would work without David Wise's brillaint writing, but I don't object it either.

In fact the Nick writers have almost confirmed Irma will be showing up in Season 2 at least.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by ledahead

To me, Irma is the most annoying of the channel 6 crew and I thought fans disliked her the most.

Her name seems to pop up a fair amount in discussion of characters they'd like to see again and the fact that people generaly remember her name would put her ahead of most of the Channel 6 crew.

I think a lot of that is down to the fact that she actualy had a few episodes that were actualy about her or featured her prominently. "Attack of the 50 Foot Irma", "Green With Jealousy", "The Turtle Terminator". "Four Musketurtles" etc

She does seem to have a cult following within the fandom too. Mainly of fans that like to ship romances and the Hentai crowd etc.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

April wasn't a reporter in 4kids, of course nobody expected those characters to return. Irma, Vernon and Burne were very popular with OT fans, why do you think the writers used them so much in the first place? They were in almost every episode.

That is another thing fans of the Fred Wolf show moaned about with the 4Kids show. Hypotheticaly if she had been I don't think people would have moaned about the lack of a Channel 6 crew. I cite the fact that no one moans about their absence/replacement in the live action movies as evidence.

The last two seasons of the 87 show gets a lot of flack but it's generaly centered on replacing Shredder and Krang as primary villains, the secondary mutations than the absence of Vernon and co.

I'd argue the fact that these characters were in show so much but not as well remembered as characters like Slash or Leatherhead or The Rat King should be a signal at which characters the movie should focus on.

They were the best source of comedy in the series after the Turtles and villains. Irma and Vernon were always funny and Burne had his charm as a boss.

That's a bit like saying the were the best source of comedy after every other regular characters which could also translate to them being the least funny of all the regulars

Seriously though I'm not objecting to the presence of the Happy Hour News team merely pointing out they shouldn't be given the boosted role the apparently have been given. There's also questionmark on whether these characters will be the movie's focus above the turtles and antogonists.

Also another worry is if this is inspired by the Fred Wolf show and the C6 workers are a big part then will teh the turtles be public knowledge. I think that's one aspect of the show I think most fans would prefer stayed there.