Nick TMNT Season 1 vs TMNT 4kids Season 1 - Page 2

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-10-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

yea but I like it when things get stretched out to the other seasons :3

kinda like Avatar the last airbender XD they didn't defeat the Fire lord in the first season :3

Well, think about Justice League, and how the first two season finales were meant to be series finales. Think about the fact that a show isn't guaranteed to have multiple seasons.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-10-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

Well, think about Justice League, and how the first two season finales were meant to be series finales. Think about the fact that a show isn't guaranteed to have multiple seasons.

yea

but they seem to be taking the chance

which could be good if they last (which it seems they will)

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-10-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

yea

but they seem to be taking the chance

True, but again it's not a bad thing if all of the conflicts wrap up in the first season.

*snake* · 08-10-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

True, but again it's not a bad thing if all of the conflicts wrap up in the first season.

Your right, but it's better to continue the plot into another season, it adds build up, and I like it that way.

*Donatello19* · 08-10-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

As great as TMNT 2012 was, it still didn't reach the classic 1st Season of the 1987 TMNT!

You seriously cannot compare Nick's epic season finale with the 1987 one...the first season of that show was literally only made to sell the toys. The later seasons were much better IMO.

*MrTMNT2012* · 08-10-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

You seriously cannot compare Nick's epic season finale with the 1987 one...the first season of that show was literally only made to sell the toys. The later seasons were much better IMO.

Completely disagreed. 1987 Series' first Season is classic in the way it set up its first arc and resolved it! It was the perfect introduction and the action scenes were the absolute BEST of its time. All 5 Episodes of that 1st Season were unique and engaging.

The Later Seasons completely lacked in all of that IMO. It just got too silly for me but that 1st Season was perfect.

Nickelodeon's first Season was not quite perfect because of all the weaker fillers...

*CyberCubed* · 08-10-2013, 06:05 PM

The first season of the OT may have only been 5 episodes, but it was pretty much the best 5 first episodes any show could ask for. Literally the entire TMNT universe in animation was spawned from the first 5 episodes.

*Donatello19* · 08-10-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The first season of the OT may have only been 5 episodes, but it was pretty much the best 5 first episodes any show could ask for. Literally the entire TMNT universe in animation was spawned from the first 5 episodes.

I know...I hope I don't sound like a hater of the OT,(because I'm not by any means) It's just that I can't really compare the Nick finale to the OT's. The fight scenes, action, story and humor were just (IMO) much better than the OT's.

*MrTMNT2012* · 08-10-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

I know...I hope I don't sound like a hater of the OT,(because I'm not by any means) It's just that I can't really compare the Nick finale to the OT's. The fight scenes, action, story and humor were just (IMO) much better than the OT's.

Well yeah...but think of the time period. When 1987 Series came out, the action scenes, humor and story were instantly acclaimed and still impressive to this day.

2012 Series is no where near the level of quality as some other cartoons these days like Avatar: The Last Airbender, Young Justice, Legend of Korra etc.

When TMNT first came out, it was THE very best! There was no second place. 2012 Series is still one of the best shows right now but it won't have the same impact say 20 years later with improved CGI.

*NinjaMan* · 08-10-2013, 06:38 PM

Nick version was waaay better IMO.

Leo2k3 · 08-10-2013, 06:40 PM

I feel one of the weaknesses of the this Nick show is timing. So far the show has nothing that makes it stand out among other shows right now. It seems a little bland compared to things like Korra, and The Last Airbender. At least the 4kids show had the benefit of being the second animated series after the OT. This one is the third and I hope the crew get to push the series to achieve greatness before it gets lost in the shuffle. Especially if more CGI shows are coming up and end up beating out Ninja Turtles. Transformers Prime is a show that has its roots in G1, but the crew have put together an extraordinary show for fans and new comers. There is frankly more competition than it was in 1987.

Anyway I wish the show the best, and the Ninja turtles have been with me for as long as I can remember, so I am glad it will be getting at least one more season after season 2.

MothraLeo · 08-10-2013, 06:54 PM

My thoughts on the this are pretty much identical to cybercubed. Anything I would say would likely be redundant.

2K3>2012, but the Nick show is growing on me quite a bit. That finale was amazing, and while the Nick show seems at first glance to be '87 revisited, it has a MUCH more serious tone, while still being very, very funny. It is really well done, imo.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-10-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo2k3

I feel one of the weaknesses of the this Nick show is timing. So far the show has nothing that makes it stand out among other shows right now. It seems a little bland compared to things like Korra, and The Last Airbender. At least the 4kids show had the benefit of being the second animated series after the OT. This one is the third and I hope the crew get to push the series to achieve greatness before it gets lost in the shuffle. Especially if more CGI shows are coming up and end up beating out Ninja Turtles. Transformers Prime is a show that has its roots in G1, but the crew have put together an extraordinary show for fans and new comers. There is frankly more competition than it was in 1987.

Anyway I wish the show the best, and the Ninja turtles have been with me for as long as I can remember, so I am glad it will be getting at least one more season after season 2.

really? I think TMNT 2012 beats Korra......

Korra lost alot of it's potential in my opinion.....I can't even like half the characters anymore because of the way they were portrayed.....

TMNT is doing very fine IMO sure the Finale lacked something.....but the episodes have been awesome~ even the ones that I didn't like as much were very enjoyable :3 and I'm sure season 2 will get better~

also saw Transformers Prime....didn't really get into it

.....(and I like transformers.)

*CyberCubed* · 08-10-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo2k3

I feel one of the weaknesses of the this Nick show is timing. So far the show has nothing that makes it stand out among other shows right now. It seems a little bland compared to things like Korra, and The Last Airbender. At least the 4kids show had the benefit of being the second animated series after the OT. This one is the third and I hope the crew get to push the series to achieve greatness before it gets lost in the shuffle. Especially if more CGI shows are coming up and end up beating out Ninja Turtles. Transformers Prime is a show that has its roots in G1, but the crew have put together an extraordinary show for fans and new comers. There is frankly more competition than it was in 1987.

Anyway I wish the show the best, and the Ninja turtles have been with me for as long as I can remember, so I am glad it will be getting at least one more season after season 2.

Not sure what you're talking about, most action cartoons are dead or are poor nowadays. TMNT is one of the best.

Young Justice was canceled as was Avengers and Spectacular Spiderman....Nick's TMNT is the only decent action cartoon out there right now.

*NinjaMan* · 08-10-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

really? I think TMNT 2012 beats Korra......

Korra lost alot of it's potential in my opinion.....I can't even like half the characters anymore because of the way they were portrayed.....

TMNT is doing very fine IMO sure the Finale lacked something.....but the episodes have been awesome~ even the ones that I didn't like as much were very enjoyable :3 and I'm sure season 2 will get better~

also saw Transformers Prime....didn't really get into it

.....(and I like transformers.)

I watched Prime, boring bland show. And I used to be a huge Transformers fan.

Aaronardo · 08-10-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinf

I'm torn on this one. If we look at it from a storytelling point, then I'd have to go with 4kids, hands down. In one season they achieved a lot of stuff, and the fact that they followed Mirage storylines was definitely a plus. The chemistry between the brothers was nice as well.

However, the nick show excels at other things. The CG they use is amazing; it makes all the fight scenes look so freaking good. I also like Nick splinter a lot more than the 4kids one; he is probably one of my favorite characters (that's also probably why I bash him so much when he doesn't move his fat rat ass to help the turtles). There is also not a single ep where you do not laugh or at least chuckle at something, so there is that. I feel that, although there are a lot of things about the plot that could have been done better, all the eps were still super enjoyable.

Huh, this is tough. I guess it's a 50/50 for me. If I'm forced to choose though, nostalgia would make me pick 4kids. Btw, I'm a die hard 4kids fan so that is saying a lot

Coming to think about it, 4kids 2nd season will be tough to beat as well. There were lots a good things in there (*cough* triceratons *cough*) so let's see how nick's second season stacks up to the competition (:

Yeah............
that.

*Powder* · 08-10-2013, 08:53 PM

I'm not so sure they're totally fair to compare... 4kids was a bit more story driven, darker, less focused on establishing itself as a new universe. It had all the groundwork laid out for it, given it was based (albeit loosely at times) on the Mirage books. The new series had to start fresh and pull from EVERY universe. Of course there's going to be a little bit less done. But just the same, Nicks turtle show is more like the OT in some sense, how it features several non-plot advancing episodes that introduce new villains and just have fun with the characters. Taking those breaks slows down the overall pace, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. They're taking their time, and that's okay. 4kids didn't have to make time for jokes, nor did they focus on character development so early on, so I think Nick is doing more for personality than story at this current time. With 3 seasons locked in place, it's better we get to know our players before the game truly begins. So ultimately I think they're too different in design to say one had a better execution than the other. I will say however that I prefer the Nick toon to the 4kids one, but that's just a personal preference.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-11-2013, 05:11 PM

I thought both shows had good seasons, but if I had to pick, I'd say Nick wins. 4Kids was good, but the Turtles were already established as ninjas and seemed to act way older than teenagers and more like adults. With Nick, the Turtles are growing as ninjas and learning how to be an effective team, so that's what makes it unique and awesome. And although I liked the season 1 finale of 4Kids, Nick beats it hands down.

*Electric* · 08-11-2013, 08:47 PM

i apologize if this is off topic, but i didnt know where else to ask. did mikey and leos shade of green skin tone flip with each other from 4kids to the nick series, or have they always been like they are now?

*BabyTurtles* · 08-11-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

i apologize if this is off topic, but i didnt know where else to ask. did mikey and leos shade of green skin tone flip with each other from 4kids to the nick series, or have they always been like they are now?

um...I know Mikey's skin tone was darker green in the 4 kids version...
now he's much lighter

so..I guess you can say they flipped XD

I think it suits them better now.

08-11-2013, 05:11 PM	#38
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I thought both shows had good seasons, but if I had to pick, I'd say Nick wins. 4Kids was good, but the Turtles were already established as ninjas and seemed to act way older than teenagers and more like adults. With Nick, the Turtles are growing as ninjas and learning how to be an effective team, so that's what makes it unique and awesome. And although I liked the season 1 finale of 4Kids, Nick beats it hands down. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-11-2013, 08:47 PM	#39
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	i apologize if this is off topic, but i didnt know where else to ask. did mikey and leos shade of green skin tone flip with each other from 4kids to the nick series, or have they always been like they are now? __________________

08-10-2013, 06:05 PM	#27
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	The first season of the OT may have only been 5 episodes, but it was pretty much the best 5 first episodes any show could ask for. Literally the entire TMNT universe in animation was spawned from the first 5 episodes.

08-10-2013, 06:38 PM	#30
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Nick version was waaay better IMO.

08-10-2013, 06:40 PM	#31
Leo2k3 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 29	I feel one of the weaknesses of the this Nick show is timing. So far the show has nothing that makes it stand out among other shows right now. It seems a little bland compared to things like Korra, and The Last Airbender. At least the 4kids show had the benefit of being the second animated series after the OT. This one is the third and I hope the crew get to push the series to achieve greatness before it gets lost in the shuffle. Especially if more CGI shows are coming up and end up beating out Ninja Turtles. Transformers Prime is a show that has its roots in G1, but the crew have put together an extraordinary show for fans and new comers. There is frankly more competition than it was in 1987. Anyway I wish the show the best, and the Ninja turtles have been with me for as long as I can remember, so I am glad it will be getting at least one more season after season 2.

08-10-2013, 06:54 PM	#32
MothraLeo Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 42	My thoughts on the this are pretty much identical to cybercubed. Anything I would say would likely be redundant. 2K3>2012, but the Nick show is growing on me quite a bit. That finale was amazing, and while the Nick show seems at first glance to be '87 revisited, it has a MUCH more serious tone, while still being very, very funny. It is really well done, imo.

08-10-2013, 08:53 PM	#37
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,954	I'm not so sure they're totally fair to compare... 4kids was a bit more story driven, darker, less focused on establishing itself as a new universe. It had all the groundwork laid out for it, given it was based (albeit loosely at times) on the Mirage books. The new series had to start fresh and pull from EVERY universe. Of course there's going to be a little bit less done. But just the same, Nicks turtle show is more like the OT in some sense, how it features several non-plot advancing episodes that introduce new villains and just have fun with the characters. Taking those breaks slows down the overall pace, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. They're taking their time, and that's okay. 4kids didn't have to make time for jokes, nor did they focus on character development so early on, so I think Nick is doing more for personality than story at this current time. With 3 seasons locked in place, it's better we get to know our players before the game truly begins. So ultimately I think they're too different in design to say one had a better execution than the other. I will say however that I prefer the Nick toon to the 4kids one, but that's just a personal preference.