Why do Xever and Bradford work for Shredder?

*Andrew NDB* · 08-15-2013, 04:43 PM

Particularly now, as mutants? What do they get out of the deal? It seems like their whole deal is just, "We promise we're going to get the Turtles this time!" to Shredder, they fail, and then Shredder beats them up a little bit and threatens to basically kill them if they fail again, over and over. Why put themselves through that?

I mean, are they getting paid? If they are (and if they are, we've never been told so), what good does money even do them anymore as mutants? It's not like they can go on a shopping spree at Macy's or anything or even blow it on hookers... so what, then? Did Shredder promise he'd de-mutate them if they play ball? What does he have over them, exactly?

I see no reason for them to serve the Shredder right now, whatsoever, beyond some kind of blind need for revenge on the Turtles for sh*t that wasn't even the Turtles' fault. But even then, what do they need the Shredder for?

*BubblyShell22* · 08-15-2013, 04:46 PM

Well, Xever does it because he feels he owes Shredder a debt for bailing him out of prison and because he likes a job where he gets to crack skulls. I believe Bradford possibly does it out of servitude because he's one of Shredder's top students and wants to serve his master.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-15-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I believe Bradford possibly does it out of servitude because he's one of Shredder's top students and wants to serve his master.

But WHY would he event want to work for The Shredder? Like Andrew said, it's not like he's paying either of them.

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-15-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

But WHY would he event want to work for The Shredder? Like Andrew said, it's not like he's paying either of them.

Well, it would be pretty tough to find a job when you're giant mutant dog. It's probably has something to do with honor or whatever.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-15-2013, 06:23 PM

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Well, it would be pretty tough to find a job when your giant mutant dog. It's probably has something to do with honor or whatever.

yea I was about to say that XD

where else can they go?? XD no one's gonna hire a mutant fish and dog.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-15-2013, 06:43 PM

I doubt shredder would let them live if they chose to leave. This is isnt like the OT where IF bebop and rocksteady quit shredder would be like 'fine! Go! Who needs you!!' This shredder doesn't seen like the kinda guy you can just walk away from. They have no choice.

Lord Nightwalker · 08-15-2013, 07:14 PM

Fear. They work for Shredder out of fear of him and for what loyalty they have to the clan, Well, in Bradfords' case anyway. Only thing that makes sense to me.

Newtralizer · 08-15-2013, 08:22 PM

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yea I was about to say that XD

where else can they go?? XD no one's gonna hire a mutant fish and dog.

Do you really have to have at least one 'XD' in every comment?

*BabyTurtles* · 08-15-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by newtralizer

do you really have to have at least one 'xd' in every comment?

yes!! XD

no I don't have too, it just happens (sometimes I type it without thinking)

saber16 · 08-16-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Newtralizer

Do you really have to have at least one 'XD' in every comment?

Her comments, her rules

As for the the topic question, they know what the Shredder is capable of, and seeing as they're in his good graces with him and know what he's capable of, they know better than to oppress him. While loyalty has a part in their choice to work for Shredder, their fear for him is what keeps them in line.
They could barely take on Splinter, how would they fare against s master with the same level of training that won't think twice about killing his opponent?

*shredder orokusaki* · 08-17-2013, 02:01 AM

They are working for me because they are afaid of me! They know that i will kill them if they dont follow my orders!

*snake* · 08-17-2013, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

They are working for me because they are afaid of me! They know that i will kill them if they dont follow my orders!

Anyone wanna take bets on how long until this guy starts a thread war/gets banned?

*BubblyShell22* · 08-17-2013, 07:59 AM

Okay, I bet twenty bucks he gets banned.

Tazi · 08-17-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Anyone wanna take bets on how long until this guy starts a thread war/gets banned?

He will stay, even the admins are AFAID of the Shredder.

plasticturtle · 08-17-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I doubt shredder would let them live if they chose to leave. This is isnt like the OT where IF bebop and rocksteady quit shredder would be like 'fine! Go! Who needs you!!' This shredder doesn't seen like the kinda guy you can just walk away from. They have no choice.

This. Shredder doesn't seem to be the kind of boss you can just walk away from. They're basically in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Stay and be treated like crap or leave and die.

*Donatello19* · 08-17-2013, 09:33 AM

Well.....what else would they do, exactly? They WANT to kill the turtles because they feel it's their fault they got mutated, anyway.

*shredder orokusaki* · 08-18-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

He will stay, even the admins are AFAID of the Shredder.

The Admins are afraid of me yes tha true! They know that i will destroy this site if they ever do something to my account!

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-18-2013, 05:24 AM

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The Admins are afraid of me yes tha true! They know that i will destroy this site if they ever do something to my account!

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08-15-2013, 04:43 PM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,466	Why do Xever and Bradford work for Shredder? Particularly now, as mutants? What do they get out of the deal? It seems like their whole deal is just, "We promise we're going to get the Turtles this time!" to Shredder, they fail, and then Shredder beats them up a little bit and threatens to basically kill them if they fail again, over and over. Why put themselves through that? I mean, are they getting paid? If they are (and if they are, we've never been told so), what good does money even do them anymore as mutants? It's not like they can go on a shopping spree at Macy's or anything or even blow it on hookers... so what, then? Did Shredder promise he'd de-mutate them if they play ball? What does he have over them, exactly? I see no reason for them to serve the Shredder right now, whatsoever, beyond some kind of blind need for revenge on the Turtles for sh*t that wasn't even the Turtles' fault. But even then, what do they need the Shredder for? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-15-2013, 04:46 PM	#2
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Well, Xever does it because he feels he owes Shredder a debt for bailing him out of prison and because he likes a job where he gets to crack skulls. I believe Bradford possibly does it out of servitude because he's one of Shredder's top students and wants to serve his master. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-15-2013, 06:43 PM	#6
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,688	I doubt shredder would let them live if they chose to leave. This is isnt like the OT where IF bebop and rocksteady quit shredder would be like 'fine! Go! Who needs you!!' This shredder doesn't seen like the kinda guy you can just walk away from. They have no choice. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-17-2013, 02:01 AM	#11
shredder orokusaki Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 1,518	They are working for me because they are afaid of me! They know that i will kill them if they dont follow my orders! __________________ I AM THE SHREDDER!!!!!

08-17-2013, 07:59 AM	#13
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Okay, I bet twenty bucks he gets banned. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-15-2013, 07:14 PM	#7
Lord Nightwalker Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 698	Fear. They work for Shredder out of fear of him and for what loyalty they have to the clan, Well, in Bradfords' case anyway. Only thing that makes sense to me.

08-17-2013, 09:33 AM	#16
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	Well.....what else would they do, exactly? They WANT to kill the turtles because they feel it's their fault they got mutated, anyway.